Guest guest Posted March 22, 2002 Report Share Posted March 22, 2002 What's up with his diet. Its not likely he's showing signs of arthritis due to lack of a specific supplement. He may benefit right now from some food based supplements however something is up in his diet. DMM > My husband is showing some signs of arthritis and I was curious what everyone here would suggest... > > I do make bone broths, I am running out of bones right now and have only had enough to make broth once a week. > > I was also wondering about shark Cartalage, does anyone know much about using this? > > Grace, > a Augustine > > I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude bright. > I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun more. > I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive. > I wish you enough pain so that the smallest joys in life appear much bigger. > I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting. > I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess. > I wish you enough ''Hello's " to get you through the final goodbye. > --anonymous > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 I thought for several years I was suffering the early onset of arthritis. My s-i-l introduced me to alfalfa (specifically Shaklee tabs). As long as I take the alfalfa faithfully, I have no problem with pain or stiffness in my joints. What a relief! I read in an ad for some new arthritis drug that our body is continually repleneshing our cartilage and as we get older, we need to supplement certain materials for our body to make the cartilage. Is this true? Anyhow, alfalfa is working for me, at least in this respect. Now if I could just get the allergies under control (probable culprits: mold, mildew, pet hair). I'm hoping this NT approach will make us all healthier and less victim to allergies and illness. ~~Jean > What's up with his diet. Its not likely he's showing signs of > arthritis due to lack of a specific supplement. He may benefit right > now from some food based supplements however something is up in his > diet. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 >I read in an ad for some new arthritis drug that our body is continually >repleneshing our cartilage and as we get older, we need to supplement certain >materials for our body to make the cartilage. Is this true? I don't know anything about alfalfa, but I have found that a pure chondroitin sulfate supplement is very helpful. (I have Lyme, so my connective tissue is always giving me arthritic pains.) I take the LEF's supplement, 400mg, one with each meal, and it banishes all the pain as long as I stick to it. Ideally, diet would provide the necessary raw materials. Much of the degenerative problems that afflict people are due to poor diet, so you may find you don't need a supplement once you've been eating right for awhile. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 I think his problem is further than diet. He grew up on not a very good diet so this could be part of the problem. We have only been married 6 years and only in the last year and a half been slowly implementing NT. The hand he is having problems with he had surgery during high school. This is very sad, but he fractured his wrist and it was not detected immediately. The bone had begun to deteriorate and they told him he would definately have arthritis if he did not have surgery and he had a 40% chance of developing arthritis if he did have the surgery. They grafted a peice of bone from his hip into his wrist. All this just because his body was not able to get enough calcium! Now at 30 he is having problems. Grace, a Augustine I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude bright. I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun more. I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive. I wish you enough pain so that the smallest joys in life appear much bigger. I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting. I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess. I wish you enough ''Hello's " to get you through the final goodbye. --anonymous ----- Original Message ----- From: Idol Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: Re: arthritis >I read in an ad for some new arthritis drug that our body is continually >repleneshing our cartilage and as we get older, we need to supplement certain >materials for our body to make the cartilage. Is this true? I don't know anything about alfalfa, but I have found that a pure chondroitin sulfate supplement is very helpful. (I have Lyme, so my connective tissue is always giving me arthritic pains.) I take the LEF's supplement, 400mg, one with each meal, and it banishes all the pain as long as I stick to it. Ideally, diet would provide the necessary raw materials. Much of the degenerative problems that afflict people are due to poor diet, so you may find you don't need a supplement once you've been eating right for awhile. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 --- In @y..., " a Augustine " > The hand he is having problems with he had surgery during high school. This is very sad, but he fractured his wrist and it was not detected immediately. The bone had begun to deteriorate and they told him he would definately have arthritis if he did not have surgery and he had a 40% chance of developing arthritis if he did have the surgery. They grafted a peice of bone from his hip into his wrist. All this just because his body was not able to get enough calcium! Now at 30 he is having problems. Hi a: It sounds like your husband bay have had an electrical problem. My scientific reference is " The Body Electric " by O. Becker. He joins Price, Pottenger, Max Gerson, Andre Voisin and I am sure many others in the category of ignored science. Becker's last chapter on the politics of science may be interesting to those who wish to understand modern science. Becker's evidence also shows your husband may have had a copper metabolism problem, not a calcium problem. Chi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 At 09:33 PM 4/5/2002 -0600, you wrote: >So far, I have not been able to get good (grassfed/organic) butter or >meat. Could that be it I have found that adding/increasing raw fats reliably gets rid of joint pains. Takes only a day or two for the effect. Try using organic coconut meat (juice it in a Greenlife if you can). Look for a juice bar in your area that might make coconut juice. Avocado is also good, raw fat. Make yourself some mild Guacamole and pig out. ;-) Raw butter is best (for me). Maybe you could get some fat cuttings from the local butcher shop or find some Halal meats at a local mid-east grocery. A mail-order place for grass-fed meats is NorthStar Bison in Wisconsin. They are on the web too. I just got a pound of Bison suet from them and it is delicious - melts in your mouth. Hope this is helpful. -=mark=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 At 09:33 PM 4/5/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Ever since I started this NT way of eating about 2 months ago, my >arthritis has been acting up in my right foot. (I had a car accident years >ago). Why would that be? Some people say about half of arthritis is allergy-based, often to protein of some kind (beef, eggs, casein). Mine seems to be, to gluten, (among other problems), and has practically gone away since I eliminated that protein, and comes back reliably when I eat it. You might try an elimination-type diet and see if it helps. It could be that in going NT you added something you did not eat much before. Heidi Schuppenhauer Trillium Custom Software Inc. heidis@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 I'm confused. If the meat fat is good for us, why do we skim it off when we make broth? C. ----- Original Message ----- From: theta sigma Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:23 PM Subject: Re: arthritis At 09:33 PM 4/5/2002 -0600, you wrote: >So far, I have not been able to get good (grassfed/organic) butter or >meat. Could that be it I have found that adding/increasing raw fats reliably gets rid of joint pains. Takes only a day or two for the effect. Try using organic coconut meat (juice it in a Greenlife if you can). Look for a juice bar in your area that might make coconut juice. Avocado is also good, raw fat. Make yourself some mild Guacamole and pig out. ;-) Raw butter is best (for me). Maybe you could get some fat cuttings from the local butcher shop or find some Halal meats at a local mid-east grocery. A mail-order place for grass-fed meats is NorthStar Bison in Wisconsin. They are on the web too. I just got a pound of Bison suet from them and it is delicious - melts in your mouth. Hope this is helpful. -=mark=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 Overkill. At about 45 calories per teaspoon fat is pretty concentrated, and would overwhelm the soup or whatever you are making from the broth. The fat might be used in other ways. Seems to me I remember the cooks at the hospital where I worked taking home the bacon fat to use for greens, etc. Some love to spread pork fat on their bread. Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: Conway <mclcdcmcmc@...> < > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 7:45 AM Subject: Re: arthritis > I'm confused. If the meat fat is good for us, why do we skim it off when we make broth? > > C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 Neal Kinsey, who runs a soil testing service, had a series of article/ads in AcresUSA recently advocating the wearing of copper bracelets to relieve all kinds of pain. The copper is readily absorbed from the bracelets he had to sell, and he said that the soils he tests are almost always deficient in copper, which is apparently involved in pain control in the body. That suggests that in spite of eating a healthier diet you may still be short on copper. Copper supplements don't seem to be effective according to the research I found on the web, but the continual slow absorption from the copper bracelet may be more effective. He had some amazing stories to tell of farm animals that could hardly stand because of pain, who returned to normal activity when they were fitted with a copper bracelet! Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: The Kepfords <kepford@...> nativenutrition < > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: arthritis > Ever since I started this NT way of eating about 2 months ago, my arthritis has been acting up in my right foot. (I had a car accident years ago). Why would that be? Before, I was verging on vegetarian. Hormonally I was totally out of whack and my mind was very fuzzy, among other problems. Now hormonally I'm fine, but this arthritis is very bothersome. So far, I have not been able to get good (grassfed/organic) butter or meat. Could that be it? I am eating alot more butter and meat than I used to, but it is commercial stuff. I eat VERY little grain. Most of my meals are protein with a fermented vegetable, salad, and some other cooked vegetable. Breakfast is just 3 eggs in alot of butter. I think the chickens that these eggs come from are eating just your average layer's feed. The yolks are much darker than commercial egg's yolks, though. I take cod liver oil. I do eat nuts. > Sonja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 Kris You are very fortunate to have the best fertilizer company in your back yard, Growers Nutritional Solutions,We consider it on step above Organic and our crops and cows excel(even vegetables) on this program. Before you spend a ton of money talk to them first!! What they have to say about soil tests will blow you away!!!!!! 419/499/2508 ask for Jim Halbeson, or if he is on the road ask to talk to some one there or get the local dealer in your area . BE PREPARED!what they tell you as to plant health and soil science may be to simple to understand. The fertilizer they developed 60 years ago is food grade and plant based, we feed the fertilizer as a top dress to our cows for the minerals it has and the benefits of the plant based ingredients(2 oz a day) If you have an acre garden 4 gallons per year is all you will need to grow the best and most nutritious veggies you have ever seen!! It will be worth your time to call them, and follow their lime recommendations as well it is the key to the program, and growers is not worth using if you are going to skimp on Hi-calcium lime!! Kris wrote: > Neal Kinsey, who runs a soil testing service, had a series of article/ads in > AcresUSA recently advocating the wearing of copper bracelets to relieve all > kinds of pain. The copper is readily absorbed from the bracelets he had to > sell, and he said that the soils he tests are almost always deficient in > copper, which is apparently involved in pain control in the body. That > suggests that in spite of eating a healthier diet you may still be short on > copper. Copper supplements don't seem to be effective according to the > research I found on the web, but the continual slow absorption from the > copper bracelet may be more effective. He had some amazing stories to tell > of farm animals that could hardly stand because of pain, who returned to > normal activity when they were fitted with a copper bracelet! > > Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: The Kepfords <kepford@...> > nativenutrition < > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:33 PM > Subject: arthritis > > > Ever since I started this NT way of eating about 2 months ago, my > arthritis has been acting up in my right foot. (I had a car accident years > ago). Why would that be? Before, I was verging on vegetarian. Hormonally > I was totally out of whack and my mind was very fuzzy, among other problems. > Now hormonally I'm fine, but this arthritis is very bothersome. So far, I > have not been able to get good (grassfed/organic) butter or meat. Could > that be it? I am eating alot more butter and meat than I used to, but it is > commercial stuff. I eat VERY little grain. Most of my meals are protein > with a fermented vegetable, salad, and some other cooked vegetable. > Breakfast is just 3 eggs in alot of butter. I think the chickens that these > eggs come from are eating just your average layer's feed. The yolks are > much darker than commercial egg's yolks, though. I take cod liver oil. I > do eat nuts. > > Sonja > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 What's in the fertilizer. If it's that good, can we buy it and have it shipped? I'm planning on using plain old compost and then treating for specifically deficient minerals. What might I be missing? C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Clearview Acres Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: Re: arthritis Kris You are very fortunate to have the best fertilizer company in your back yard, Growers Nutritional Solutions,We consider it on step above Organic and our crops and cows excel(even vegetables) on this program. Before you spend a ton of money talk to them first!! What they have to say about soil tests will blow you away!!!!!! 419/499/2508 ask for Jim Halbeson, or if he is on the road ask to talk to some one there or get the local dealer in your area . BE PREPARED!what they tell you as to plant health and soil science may be to simple to understand. The fertilizer they developed 60 years ago is food grade and plant based, we feed the fertilizer as a top dress to our cows for the minerals it has and the benefits of the plant based ingredients(2 oz a day) If you have an acre garden 4 gallons per year is all you will need to grow the best and most nutritious veggies you have ever seen!! It will be worth your time to call them, and follow their lime recommendations as well it is the key to the program, and growers is not worth using if you are going to skimp on Hi-calcium lime!! Kris wrote: > Neal Kinsey, who runs a soil testing service, had a series of article/ads in > AcresUSA recently advocating the wearing of copper bracelets to relieve all > kinds of pain. The copper is readily absorbed from the bracelets he had to > sell, and he said that the soils he tests are almost always deficient in > copper, which is apparently involved in pain control in the body. That > suggests that in spite of eating a healthier diet you may still be short on > copper. Copper supplements don't seem to be effective according to the > research I found on the web, but the continual slow absorption from the > copper bracelet may be more effective. He had some amazing stories to tell > of farm animals that could hardly stand because of pain, who returned to > normal activity when they were fitted with a copper bracelet! > > Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: The Kepfords <kepford@...> > nativenutrition < > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:33 PM > Subject: arthritis > > > Ever since I started this NT way of eating about 2 months ago, my > arthritis has been acting up in my right foot. (I had a car accident years > ago). Why would that be? Before, I was verging on vegetarian. Hormonally > I was totally out of whack and my mind was very fuzzy, among other problems. > Now hormonally I'm fine, but this arthritis is very bothersome. So far, I > have not been able to get good (grassfed/organic) butter or meat. Could > that be it? I am eating alot more butter and meat than I used to, but it is > commercial stuff. I eat VERY little grain. Most of my meals are protein > with a fermented vegetable, salad, and some other cooked vegetable. > Breakfast is just 3 eggs in alot of butter. I think the chickens that these > eggs come from are eating just your average layer's feed. The yolks are > much darker than commercial egg's yolks, though. I take cod liver oil. I > do eat nuts. > > Sonja > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 > A mail-order place for grass-fed meats is NorthStar Bison in > Wisconsin. They are on the web too. I just got a pound of Bison suet from > them and it is delicious - melts in your mouth. How do you get the suet? I just checked out the web page and couldn't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 At 11:22 PM 4/6/2002 -0500, you wrote: >The copper is readily absorbed from the bracelets he had to >sell, and he said that the soils he tests are almost always deficient in >copper, which is apparently involved in pain control in the body. If you are eating grass-fed beef or oysters you are getting plenty of copper. -=mark=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 Ok folks lets start with a few basics. Your soil unless you have a garden on an ocean beach CAN REGENERATE ITS SELF!! But the right amounts of calcium must be present in order for earthworm eggs to hatch for them to begin to WORK the soil and create air exchange and subsoil moisture reserves. Calcium is the catalyst for all soil organisms, mineral exchange from subsoil structures and the breakup of hard pan due to lack of that mineral exchange, earthworm activity and depletion of calcium. Growers fertilizer HELPS grow plants while you get the soil activity balance back in order and eventually when you get calcium saturation down to about 3 feet you won't need any Growers Fertilizer. Compost will do as long as the calcium is applied as needed! But in the Ag community that is a ways off and Growers Fertilizer will be a staple of the farmer for many years until that optimum calcium level is reached and the farmer has returned enough food matter for the earthworms to maintain the process through plow downs of legumes and rotational crops that work off previous years crops. What is in Growers Fertilizer is elemental plant structures. Sorry I don't know more than that but to put it simply they squeeze the juice out of certain plants and that is what is feed to the crops you wish to feed. Thats why it takes so little to feed your plants. You mix it with water 2 oz Growers per watering can in the early morning or early evening and water the leaves of the plant when the dew is on and it is moved to the roots for later use. Note use sparingly on tomatoes it tend to promote plant growth not fruit. Anything else it works very well for a very nutritious harvest and excellent shelf life. It can also by applied in row at planting time but only 2 gallons per acre used straight, more and you will burn the seed, soaking in growers solution and water as mentioned above also works very well for pre planting prep. you can also use water can mix to soak transplants as planting. Your minerals you need are either in the ground and bound up or in your compost if you use oak leaves, they are the best source of mineral replacement other given they are still in their natural state. Growers Fertilizer costs about(we deal in 100's of gallons so I am guessing here) $6.00 per gallon. Your local Growers Salesman will have the source for the correct type of lime to get the maximum calcium for the dollar. Dolimite lime will only tie up nitrogen within the compost because of the Hi magnezium content. Your Growers Rep will know of the source of low magnizium/Hi calcium lime. Other cheap sources of calcium are drywall(gypsum) and some cement plant cuttings. But you can get it in 50 lb basgs from the Growers Rep, who by the way is a farmer. Tim. Conway wrote: > What's in the fertilizer. If it's that good, can we buy it and have it shipped? I'm planning on using plain old compost and then treating for specifically deficient minerals. What might I be missing? > > C. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Clearview Acres > > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 7:01 AM > Subject: Re: arthritis > > Kris > You are very fortunate to have the best fertilizer company in your back yard, > Growers Nutritional Solutions,We consider it on step above Organic and our crops > and cows excel(even vegetables) on this program. Before you spend a ton of money > talk to them first!! > What they have to say about soil tests will blow you away!!!!!! > 419/499/2508 ask for Jim Halbeson, or if he is on the road ask to talk to some > one there or get the local dealer in your area . > BE PREPARED!what they tell you as to plant health and soil science may be to > simple to understand. > The fertilizer they developed 60 years ago is food grade and plant based, we > feed the fertilizer as a top dress to our cows for the minerals it has and the > benefits of the plant based ingredients(2 oz a day) > If you have an acre garden 4 gallons per year is all you will need to grow the > best and most nutritious veggies you have ever seen!! > It will be worth your time to call them, and follow their lime recommendations > as well it is the key to the program, and growers is not worth using if you are > going to skimp on Hi-calcium lime!! > Kris wrote: > > > Neal Kinsey, who runs a soil testing service, had a series of article/ads in > > AcresUSA recently advocating the wearing of copper bracelets to relieve all > > kinds of pain. The copper is readily absorbed from the bracelets he had to > > sell, and he said that the soils he tests are almost always deficient in > > copper, which is apparently involved in pain control in the body. That > > suggests that in spite of eating a healthier diet you may still be short on > > copper. Copper supplements don't seem to be effective according to the > > research I found on the web, but the continual slow absorption from the > > copper bracelet may be more effective. He had some amazing stories to tell > > of farm animals that could hardly stand because of pain, who returned to > > normal activity when they were fitted with a copper bracelet! > > > > Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: The Kepfords <kepford@...> > > nativenutrition < > > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:33 PM > > Subject: arthritis > > > > > Ever since I started this NT way of eating about 2 months ago, my > > arthritis has been acting up in my right foot. (I had a car accident years > > ago). Why would that be? Before, I was verging on vegetarian. Hormonally > > I was totally out of whack and my mind was very fuzzy, among other problems. > > Now hormonally I'm fine, but this arthritis is very bothersome. So far, I > > have not been able to get good (grassfed/organic) butter or meat. Could > > that be it? I am eating alot more butter and meat than I used to, but it is > > commercial stuff. I eat VERY little grain. Most of my meals are protein > > with a fermented vegetable, salad, and some other cooked vegetable. > > Breakfast is just 3 eggs in alot of butter. I think the chickens that these > > eggs come from are eating just your average layer's feed. The yolks are > > much darker than commercial egg's yolks, though. I take cod liver oil. I > > do eat nuts. > > > Sonja > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Thanks so much! I've never heard of them - although maybe they had a rep at the OEFFA meeting I went to a couple weeks ago. Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: Clearview Acres <clearvu@...> < > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 8:01 AM Subject: Re: arthritis > Kris > You are very fortunate to have the best fertilizer company in your back yard, > Growers Nutritional Solutions,We consider it on step above Organic and our crops > and cows excel(even vegetables) on this program. Before you spend a ton of money > talk to them first!! > What they have to say about soil tests will blow you away!!!!!! > 419/499/2508 ask for Jim Halbeson, or if he is on the road ask to talk to some > one there or get the local dealer in your area . > BE PREPARED!what they tell you as to plant health and soil science may be to > simple to understand. > The fertilizer they developed 60 years ago is food grade and plant based, we > feed the fertilizer as a top dress to our cows for the minerals it has and the > benefits of the plant based ingredients(2 oz a day) > If you have an acre garden 4 gallons per year is all you will need to grow the > best and most nutritious veggies you have ever seen!! > It will be worth your time to call them, and follow their lime recommendations > as well it is the key to the program, and growers is not worth using if you are > going to skimp on Hi-calcium lime!! > Kris wrote: > > > Neal Kinsey, who runs a soil testing service, had a series of article/ads in > > AcresUSA recently advocating the wearing of copper bracelets to relieve all > > kinds of pain. The copper is readily absorbed from the bracelets he had to > > sell, and he said that the soils he tests are almost always deficient in > > copper, which is apparently involved in pain control in the body. That > > suggests that in spite of eating a healthier diet you may still be short on > > copper. Copper supplements don't seem to be effective according to the > > research I found on the web, but the continual slow absorption from the > > copper bracelet may be more effective. He had some amazing stories to tell > > of farm animals that could hardly stand because of pain, who returned to > > normal activity when they were fitted with a copper bracelet! > > > > Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: The Kepfords <kepford@...> > > nativenutrition < > > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:33 PM > > Subject: arthritis > > > > > Ever since I started this NT way of eating about 2 months ago, my > > arthritis has been acting up in my right foot. (I had a car accident years > > ago). Why would that be? Before, I was verging on vegetarian. Hormonally > > I was totally out of whack and my mind was very fuzzy, among other problems. > > Now hormonally I'm fine, but this arthritis is very bothersome. So far, I > > have not been able to get good (grassfed/organic) butter or meat. Could > > that be it? I am eating alot more butter and meat than I used to, but it is > > commercial stuff. I eat VERY little grain. Most of my meals are protein > > with a fermented vegetable, salad, and some other cooked vegetable. > > Breakfast is just 3 eggs in alot of butter. I think the chickens that these > > eggs come from are eating just your average layer's feed. The yolks are > > much darker than commercial egg's yolks, though. I take cod liver oil. I > > do eat nuts. > > > Sonja > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Haven't had oysters for a " coon's age " I should put it on my shopping list. Organic beef I get, but now I'm realizing I should check on our the farmer feeds his cows. It's very lean, so I presume grass fed. I wonder if I can assume that he has gotten his soil up to snuff, so the animals are very healthy, and containing plenty of micronutrients. Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: theta sigma <thetasig@...> < > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: Re: arthritis > At 11:22 PM 4/6/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >The copper is readily absorbed from the bracelets he had to > >sell, and he said that the soils he tests are almost always deficient in > >copper, which is apparently involved in pain control in the body. > > If you are eating grass-fed beef or oysters you are getting plenty of copper. > > -=mark=- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 On Sun, 07 Apr 2002 18:59:12 -0000 " justinbond " <justin_bond@...> writes: > A mail-order place for grass-fed meats is NorthStar Bison in > Wisconsin. They are on the web too. I just got a pound of Bison suet from > them and it is delicious - melts in your mouth. How do you get the suet? I just checked out the web page and couldn't find it. *****the same way I got the organ meats that were not listed, I called and asked about their availability. Bianca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 A while back, I posted a letter wondering if gallbladder and gaout problems were related. Gout is a form of arthritis. -maybe they arerelated. I'm glad to hear of the arthritis improving. My first symptom of gallbladder problems (other than pain) was a sore joint in my left shoulder joint. Now I have a swollen big toe and ankle slghitly swollen - the right side. I know that I should do a flush, but am not able to at the moment due to my present situation. I'm wondering what to do in place of a flush. Suzanne " aluckower " <aluckower@n...> wrote: the worst thing that happened was that i > went through severe rheumatoid arthritis. i had this here and there on my > way to getting ill, and i guess i had to relive it in reversing the process. > my hip joint swelled up and my waist size got way too big. its slowly > starting to soften up and things are going back to normal. > > so it looks to me like rheumatoid arthritis is in part a reflex reaction to > a plugged liver or gall bladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 From: Reilly <setlikeflint@...> My husband has arthritis in his knuckles. He is a keyboard/organ player and this is devastating to him. Is there anything he can do so that he can continue to play? ==================== The red yeast rice for bones works great for arthritis. Also, have him eliminate all sugars, simple carbs, dairy. Add calcium-rich foods to his diet. I’ve heard the nightshade family of foods is not good for arthritis – potatoes, tomatoes, peppers (except black pepper). Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Suzi, at one point the doctors thought he had diabetes so they limit his carbos to 45g a meal plus a 25 gram snack twice a day. He basically has *Breakfast: cereal w/milk, grapefruite juice and decaf coffee. *Mid morning: applesauce with powedered medicine for cholesterol in it *Lunch is a sandwich, a piece of fruit and a soda *PM snack is usually a banana - if he is really hungry he will have a Qsmart bar (9 g carbs *Dinner is whatever we paln. Some kind of meat, usually packaged pasta rice (time is a problem) and a vegetable. Maybe a sweet thing for dessert. Like cookies, cake, pie - whatever is around. Don't bake much so he is lucky to get the cookies. *After dinner ha mey have one or two low carb beers. Weekends - Breakfast changes - Sat is usually and omelt and Sun is bacon and eggs with toast, bagel or English Muffin mary Suzanne <suziesgoats@...> wrote: For the Lord God helps Me; therefore have I not been ashamed or confounded. Therefore have I set My face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put to shame. Isa 50:7__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Cut out all dairy and flesh foods. They make your body too acidic. You need an alkaline body to rid yourself of arthritis. More fruits and vegetables. Sparingly on the nuts. Lots of green leafy food. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Celery! My dh used to have periodic gout attacks (which are a form of arthritis) and he now takes celery seed tablets every day. Plus, if he starts to feel a twinge in his big toe (where the gout starts), I immediately start him on extra celery seed tablets and put celery seed tincture in his tea and juice celery for him. The last attack was gone in less than two days, with no indocin or other allopathic meds. Sharyn From: Reilly [mailto:setlikeflint@...] My husband has arthritis in his knuckles. He is a keyboard/organ player and this is devastating to him. Is there anything he can do so that he can continue to play? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I don't see any live food. A banana is all I can see there and a piece of fruit for lunch. I agree with the others, cut out the milk, sugar, and especially the soda. Have no idea what a Qsmart bar is, but if it comes in a wrapper, get rid of it. Not to be a snot, but I have one shelf, 8" x 16" and that is all the processed food you will find in my house. That contains cereal and honey (I have two kids 20 & 22 still at home). My husband is 60 and I'm 55 and neither one of us are on any medications whatsoever. Arthritis, cancer, progressive muscles deterioration, and nervous breakdowns run in his family. Heart disease, high cholesterol, thyroid disease, liver failure and cancer is in my family. Joe and I decided a long time ago that we didn't want to go the way of our family and so far we are ahead of the game by cutting out processed foods. And besides, what has he got to lose if you do cut out all this stuff for say, 60 days? If he doesn't feel better, go back to this diet. But what if he does feel better???????????..................Try only shopping in the produce section. Shari *Breakfast: cereal w/milk, grapefruite juice and decaf coffee. *Mid morning: applesauce with powedered medicine for cholesterol in it *Lunch is a sandwich, a piece of fruit and a soda *PM snack is usually a banana - if he is really hungry he will have a Qsmart bar (9 g carbs *Dinner is whatever we paln. Some kind of meat, usually packaged pasta rice (time is a problem) and a vegetable. Maybe a sweet thing for dessert. Like cookies, cake, pie - whatever is around. Don't bake much so he is lucky to get the cookies. *After dinner ha mey have one or two low carb beers. Weekends - Breakfast changes - Sat is usually and omelt and Sun is bacon and eggs with toast, bagel or English Muffin mary Suzanne <suziesgoats@...> wrote: For the Lord God helps Me; therefore have I not been ashamed or confounded. Therefore have I set My face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put to shame. Isa 50:7 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Ack! Splenda is even worse than sugar! http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm Sharyn From: Reilly [mailto:setlikeflint@...] He doesn't use sugar on things, he ues splenda. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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