Adrenal fatigue vs. afib

[Guest guest]

I don't need to discuss here what it is like to lay in bed with your

heart beating 3-4 times per second and feeling like ALL of the energy

was drained out of you. We've nearly all had this experience. However,

during my recent months of cure and experiments, I have observed some

interesting things, especially when I have screwed up somewhat - which

I do with some regularity, as I am STILL experimenting with my

condition...

1. I have precipitated my former rapid afib heartrate, but with few

other symptoms!

2. I have precipitated adrenal fatigue, laying in bed and feeling like

ALL of the energy was drained out of me, but with NO afib!

These two things used to happen TOGETHER, and now when they rarely

happen, they are nearly unrelated!

In various postings I have noticed a wide range of impacts of afib

attacks. Considering what I now believe to be true, that most of this

is related to metabolic control system problems, it may be that

many/most of us are encountering multiple simultaneous problems from a

common cause.

I wonder, has anyone out there treated their adrenal/vagal fatigue,

and if so, what did it do to your afib?

Temperature resetting works further up the cause and effect chain -

attacking the causes of my adrenal loading. However, there may be

afibbers for whom my methods of reducing adrenal loading do NOT work

(e.g. their temperature is already normal), but for whom treatment of

adrenal fatigue DOES work.

WARNING: You can make your afib worse by making your adrenals

stronger, because this can increase the load on your vagus system,

which was MY particular weakest point before I reset my temperature.

The Great Grand Guru on adrenal fatigue is Dr. Rind at

<www.drrind.com>. His site is worth reading carefully.

Dr. Rind and I have had some interesting discussions on other forums.

Our views not only don't match, but they are about as opposite as the

science would permit, so if you are looking for other, VERY different

opinions than mine, then here is the place to go.

Basically, Dr. Rind is focused on the adrenal system, and so sees the

adrenal hazards of my approaches VERY clearly. However, I am focused

on whole-body functionality - the ability to earn a living, and hence

see Dr. Rind's " conservative " approaches that may leave you sick for

months while he carefully fixes things one-at-a-time as being

financially disastrous. Like most arguments, it is a difference in

goals, not science, that is the basis of our VERY different

approaches.

In short, if you have all of the time and money in the world, you

would probably be best advised to first eliminate your heavy metals as

in <www.docray.com> (which I haven't done yet, but intend to do so

soon), then fix your adrenals as in <www.drrind.com> (which I am now

doing, but with limited success, suspecting Mercury problems), then

fix your temperature as I have detailed in countless postings on

Yahoo's WS-Forum, and finally go back to continue on your adrenals

after your temperature is back to normal. This approach would make you

vulnerable to the risks of low temp for several extra months, but

would make your resetting much easier and more reliable when you

finally do get there. After all, the BIGGEST hazard in all of this is

failing to reset your temperature, as the attempts themselves can

train your body to resist them, which if it does, could lead

indirectly to your eventual death due to immunological weakness from

your continued low temp.

Given my EXTREMELY limited resources, I elected to do these things in

the opposite order to jump-start my world while there was still a

world to jump-start. Now I have graduated back from being a frequent

food bank visitor to regularly earning $1,000/day again as a

consultant, and hence have the financial resources to fix my other

more expensive problems that I probably should have fixed first, that

is, when I get a significant break in my workload. It is easy to

forget that just because you have mastered your afib and can again

work overtime does NOT mean that everything is as it should be.

I think of afib a lot like the " Check Engine " light on the dashboard

of my car. It tells me that something is wrong, but not what, and no

competent mechanic ever starts by analyzing the light! Instead they

check all systems and make everything right. As soon as the doctors

learn to do the same, then we will all be a LOT better off.

Steve

[Guest guest]

on Thu, 11 Apr 2002 at 17:17:58, steverichfield

wrote :

>I think of afib a lot like the " Check Engine " light on the dashboard

>of my car.

I would have said a better analogy would be a lumpy-running engine with

co-existing low oil pressure.

>no

>competent mechanic ever starts by analyzing the light!

No, they would do a compression test, find one cylinder was down, take

the sump off and find a cracked oilway leaking oil back to the sump and

not to the piston, hence cause of both problems. But if they couldn't

find the leaky oilway, they might have similar difficulties to the EP

wondering why the extra electrical discharges in the AF patient. It's

pretty hard to find a porous casting in the centre of the block that has

arisen slowly over many years of inadequate oil pH control additives

causing inter-granular corrosion and oil leakage. Good enough analogy

for you? ;-)

Don't forget in the litigious environment, particularly in the US and

increasingly in the UK, doctors sometimes just can't do what they think

is right, they have to do what is supportable in a court of law.

I don't hold to the idea that all doctors are daft. There are some who

need more education, yes, but many many would dearly like to know more

to help their patients, but are as hamstrung as the patients (or more

so), by the system they work in. And when a Doctor does go out on a

limb they are hounded - take the original work by the ?(forget name)

Clinic on the Ketogenic Diet for epilepsy - see the film " First do no

harm "

Best of health to all,

Vicky

London, UK, 1954 model

http://www.vagalafibportal.fsnet.co.uk/

" Nothing in life is to be feared.

It is only to be understood " - Marie Curie

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