Guest guest Posted February 11, 2003 Report Share Posted February 11, 2003 , Here is a link to Dana's website http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm#diet She has alot of the answers to your questions there as well as other great info. --- In , " monicas_0 <monicas_0@y...> " <monicas_0@y...> wrote: > Here are a couple of questions for the experienced ones: > > (1) What kinds of foods promote yeast growth? > (2) Are some foods more phenolic than others? and which are the most > phenolic of apples, raisins, strawberries, tomatoes? > (3) What is the effect of sports drinks?we are not on gfcf diet. > (4) How much vitamin supplement especially(Magnesium, Calcium, B6)I > can start giving to my 4.5 year 49 pound DS > (5)I observed a lot of parents on this site use Selenium what is that > for? > (6)What are some of the natural probiotics? > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 > Here are a couple of questions for the experienced ones: > > (1) What kinds of foods promote yeast growth? In my experience, all sugars, most carbs and starches. http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm > (2) Are some foods more phenolic than others? and which are the most > phenolic of apples, raisins, strawberries, tomatoes? Yep http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm I have links for the salicylate content of foods about 1/3 down the page above. You can check out the actual content of these and many other foods. Salicylate is a subset of phenol, and applies to fruits. > (3) What is the effect of sports drinks?we are not on gfcf diet. Depends. Do they have artificial colors? Does your child tolerate them? > (4) How much vitamin supplement especially(Magnesium, Calcium, B6)I > can start giving to my 4.5 year 49 pound DS I would recommend starting with USRDA. I have a link which gives the RDA of vitamins/minerals on this page http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 Basically, all carbs break down to sugar, which is what yeast feeds on. Those sugars includes fruits (fructose) and all forms of alcohol -- both of which are about the simplest sugars (already broken down and most easily absorbed). It's really difficult to go without carbs entirely -- even in the short haul, but going with whole grains (complex carbs break down to sugar more slowly - less absorbed) and cut out the really sweet things such as sodas, all alcohol, sweet deserts and processed foods with white flour, modified food starches, etc. The Atkins Diet (aka ketogenic diet or " diabetic " diet) will also eliminate yeast because it cuts out carbs except for fresh vegetables. The diet has its critics so do your research. jeff :-j Re: Diet Questions > Here are a couple of questions for the experienced ones: > > (1) What kinds of foods promote yeast growth? In my experience, all sugars, most carbs and starches. HYPERLINK " http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm " http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm > (2) Are some foods more phenolic than others? and which are the most > phenolic of apples, raisins, strawberries, tomatoes? Yep HYPERLINK " http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm " http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm I have links for the salicylate content of foods about 1/3 down the page above. You can check out the actual content of these and many other foods. Salicylate is a subset of phenol, and applies to fruits. > (3) What is the effect of sports drinks?we are not on gfcf diet. Depends. Do they have artificial colors? Does your child tolerate them? > (4) How much vitamin supplement especially(Magnesium, Calcium, B6)I > can start giving to my 4.5 year 49 pound DS I would recommend starting with USRDA. I have a link which gives the RDA of vitamins/minerals on this page HYPERLINK " http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm " http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 Hi there, My now three and half year old was also a picky eater, had to endure surgery on his mouth at three and ten months of age, and I was always concerned about his weight. Pureeing food certainly helped as did pediasure. I also tried to puree high calorie fruits such as mangoes and avocados (mono unsat. fat I believe). Adding wheat germ to yogurt along with fresh pureed fruit also worked nicely. Sometimes, I would add instant non fat powdered milk for an extra protein kick. It was very easy to add into oatmeal, farina, milk shakes and certain milk or cheese based sauces. The soft biter biscuits were also great because they melted in his mouth (and over is hands, face, clothes!). Good luck! Uzma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 My 3 year old also is extremely fussy - to the point of not eating when he IS hungry. I empathsize. I've started adding fortified nestle quik to his milk in the afternoon and evening (probably adds 150 cals a day). On really bad days, I give him a pediasure drink - or two. I know others are more knowledgeable than I in this dept (Betsy - are you there??), but I would think that adding oil is probably not the best way to fatten him up - might cause gastric problems. I would think that a better way would be pureeing pasta and foods yourself, because there's not much complex carbs in the pureed baby food (if that's what you're using). If you overcook pasta, or add bread or rice cereal to veggies/meat, you'll add quite a bit. When I made my own babyfood, I used a mini-food processor. Since then, my husband bought me a deluxe hand-held blender. While the blender part is only ok, it attaches to a food processor type thing that does a MUCH better job than the old processor ever did. Braun makes it. Finally, I saw a bit of improvement on this front when I added carn- aware. When I tried a different version of carnosine, I may as well have been adding nothing. No difference. Good luck - now I need to go locate what that stinky smell is in my dining room. Ah, the joys of motherhood!! Marina > Hello, > My 2 yr old is in Early Intervention for SID and apraxia/dyspraxia. > He is orally defensive to the extreme and hates to eat. We are > working on this and slowly, slowly making progress. ProEFA seems to > be helping a bit. Heres my problem. Since he hates to eat (and eats > mainly pureed food), I need to boost his calories. He's only 24 lbs. > But if I add oil to his food, he wont get the benefits of the proefa > oil. His GI doc suggested Olive oil as this is a " mono " fat. Any > comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 Hi there, My son 27months weighs 26lbs and he is also not big into food and prefers mushy stuff so I add things to what he likes: Veggie pureed soup with chicken (put hand blender in the pot). Soy yogurt with wheat germ or flax seed to add bulk. The gastroentorologist suggested baby formula, but being that he was breast fed it was nasty to him.. so instead I give him soy milk that is enriched with A & D and Calcium and it is fatty as well. Good Luck mama2adam2001 <pahmed@...> wrote:Hello, My 2 yr old is in Early Intervention for SID and apraxia/dyspraxia. He is orally defensive to the extreme and hates to eat. We are working on this and slowly, slowly making progress. ProEFA seems to be helping a bit. Heres my problem. Since he hates to eat (and eats mainly pureed food), I need to boost his calories. He's only 24 lbs. But if I add oil to his food, he wont get the benefits of the proefa oil. His GI doc suggested Olive oil as this is a " mono " fat. Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 Where do you get carnaware and carnasine? I have just started Adam on Pro EFA too. Nina [ ] Re: Diet Questions My 3 year old also is extremely fussy - to the point of not eating when he IS hungry. I empathsize. I've started adding fortified nestle quik to his milk in the afternoon and evening (probably adds 150 cals a day). On really bad days, I give him a pediasure drink - or two. I know others are more knowledgeable than I in this dept (Betsy - are you there??), but I would think that adding oil is probably not the best way to fatten him up - might cause gastric problems. I would think that a better way would be pureeing pasta and foods yourself, because there's not much complex carbs in the pureed baby food (if that's what you're using). If you overcook pasta, or add bread or rice cereal to veggies/meat, you'll add quite a bit. When I made my own babyfood, I used a mini-food processor. Since then, my husband bought me a deluxe hand-held blender. While the blender part is only ok, it attaches to a food processor type thing that does a MUCH better job than the old processor ever did. Braun makes it. Finally, I saw a bit of improvement on this front when I added carn- aware. When I tried a different version of carnosine, I may as well have been adding nothing. No difference. Good luck - now I need to go locate what that stinky smell is in my dining room. Ah, the joys of motherhood!! Marina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 Can anyone tell me about this ProEFA and do you talk to your pediatrician before you start it? My son has VAS- he has only been diagnoised by the Speech Pathologist. Should I take him to a neurologist too? I have been searching the internet a lot and now am terrified about this and want to help my son. He is also a picky eater and wants nothing but peanut butter and Jelly sandwiches. He does eat a few other things though. Does anyone know of any doctors in MN in the Twin Cities area that I could go to that believes in this ProEFA stuff? Thanks so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 We are in the process of becoming a patient of Dr. G's. We have been with a pretty reputable biomed (not DAN) doc for almost 2 years and have seen significant progress with treatments like amino acids and MB12. I do suspect there is a link b/t viruses and autism for my kid so we were happy to learn about Dr. G. The one thing I am struggling with is the diet, though perhaps for different reasons than most. We have been GF/CF/SF for over 2 years with very few infractions. I cannot say that I have seen an improvement only with the diet nor did I see regression after an infraction though I have seen temporary regression with other things like viruses. To further complicate things, my son has a diagnosis of reactive hypoglycemia which requires that he eat only things with a low glycemic index (complex carbs only, very little sugar, lots of protein). There are not a lot of options combining this with either GF/CF or , though my info on the diet is from dated material on the website basicly saying no dairy of any kind but highly processed wheat/gluten is ok, which would be a disaster for a hypoglycemic. I am seriously thinking of quitting GF/CF as my child seems to have significant issues when not on a proper hypoglycemic diet but only very mild (undetectable even to me who watches him like a hawk) if any issues with a GF/CF infraction. Here are my questions: 1) If you refuse to follow the diet, what is Dr. G's position? Does he refuse to treat you? 2) Is soy allowed? 3) Is there anywhere that outlines Dr. G's complete diet that is up to date? It sounds like there have been many changes over the years and most things on the neuroimmunedoc website are not current, including the diet info. 4) What type of testing does Dr. G order for food allergies - skin, blood, stool, etc? Is there a particular reaction that he weighs more heavily than others (i.e. IgG over IgE, skin reactions, etc.)? 5) Are you convinced that your child made significant improvements just following diet alone? 6) If you switched from GF/CF to diet, what was your experience? Any help with the above would be greatly appreciated. Thank you everyone for contributing to this message board. I have learned so much since joining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Hi , We are new to Dr. G as well, we had our first appt. a couple weeks ago. We have been following DAN for more than 6 years with our two boys with good results with one, and not so good with the other. Like you, we were really strict GF/CF/SF prior to seeing Dr. G. So now here we are a couple weeks into the new diet, so I can speak to what we are seeing immediately only. So, for what's its worth, a newbie's experience... 1) If you refuse to follow the diet, what is Dr. G's position? Does he refuse to treat you? I can't speak to this, you could ask the staff though, they would be very forthcoming, I'm sure. 2) Is soy allowed? If you do not observe a reaction in your child when it's consumed. We did a blood IgG for 95 common foods. If soy is not tripped off the charts on that test, I would assume you could start with soy. Sometimes they may not show as allergic on the test, but you will still see a reaction anyway, in which case you would probably need to stop serving it. My understanding of the simple grains like white bread view: use them strategically, mainly to get protein in. Not just bread, but bread slices with meat between them. The parts that make grains allergenic are what make them " whole grain " . The processing gets rid of that. We are low sugar as well, but don't have the glycemic issues, so I can't really speak to that. However, I wonder if the gluten is always served with ample protein if it would lower the problem with that, just a guess. 3) Is there anywhere that outlines Dr. G's complete diet that is up to date? It sounds like there have been many changes over the years and most things on the neuroimmunedoc website are not current, including the diet info. The write up on the web site is the one we were given at the office. And they will answer any question you have. 4) What type of testing does Dr. G order for food allergies - skin, blood, stool, etc? Is there a particular reaction that he weighs more heavily than others (i.e. IgG over IgE, skin reactions, etc.)? He does not seem to put stock in urine and stool tests. All the testing we did prior to seeing him was blood. You can see a good list of helpful tests at the ' Story website: stopcallingitautism. There is also a recently posted list on Dr. G's site, I believe. We referred to this list and got as much of it done before we went as possible. The biggies I would suggest are a Complete Blood Count and and Immune Subpanel, and the 95 Foods through Merridian Valley Labs (warning, they are slow to get the test kit to you, but were otherwise very helpful). This gave us some good things to work with Dr. on for our first visit, which was a cross-country trek for us (we wanted to make the most of it!) 5) Are you convinced that your child made significant improvements just following diet alone? Remains to be seen, but I can tell you that we have not seen any negatives yet. The boys may be a little more vocal, but that's it. Also, my 7-year-old's dark circles are going away . His eyes and color look good, not sickly as he can often look. 6) If you switched from GF/CF to diet, what was your experience? DIET QUESTIONS We are in the process of becoming a patient of Dr. G's. We have been with a pretty reputable biomed (not DAN) doc for almost 2 years and have seen significant progress with treatments like amino acids and MB12. I do suspect there is a link b/t viruses and autism for my kid so we were happy to learn about Dr. G. The one thing I am struggling with is the diet, though perhaps for different reasons than most. We have been GF/CF/SF for over 2 years with very few infractions. I cannot say that I have seen an improvement only with the diet nor did I see regression after an infraction though I have seen temporary regression with other things like viruses. To further complicate things, my son has a diagnosis of reactive hypoglycemia which requires that he eat only things with a low glycemic index (complex carbs only, very little sugar, lots of protein). There are not a lot of options combining this with either GF/CF or , though my info on the diet is from dated material on the website basicly saying no dairy of any kind but highly processed wheat/gluten is ok, which would be a disaster for a hypoglycemic. I am seriously thinking of quitting GF/CF as my child seems to have significant issues when not on a proper hypoglycemic diet but only very mild (undetectable even to me who watches him like a hawk) if any issues with a GF/CF infraction. Here are my questions: 1) If you refuse to follow the diet, what is Dr. G's position? Does he refuse to treat you? 2) Is soy allowed? 3) Is there anywhere that outlines Dr. G's complete diet that is up to date? It sounds like there have been many changes over the years and most things on the neuroimmunedoc website are not current, including the diet info. 4) What type of testing does Dr. G order for food allergies - skin, blood, stool, etc? Is there a particular reaction that he weighs more heavily than others (i.e. IgG over IgE, skin reactions, etc.)? 5) Are you convinced that your child made significant improvements just following diet alone? 6) If you switched from GF/CF to diet, what was your experience? Any help with the above would be greatly appreciated. Thank you everyone for contributing to this message board. I have learned so much since joining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Who is your doc and where are you? Bill Klimas Call me off list/or email me. if you have a moment! 305 653 2375 From: Ranee <rfear@...> Subject: DIET QUESTIONS Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 2:57 PM  We are in the process of becoming a patient of Dr. G's. We have been with a pretty reputable biomed (not DAN) doc for almost 2 years and have seen significant progress with treatments like amino acids and MB12. I do suspect there is a link b/t viruses and autism for my kid so we were happy to learn about Dr. G. The one thing I am struggling with is the diet, though perhaps for different reasons than most. We have been GF/CF/SF for over 2 years with very few infractions. I cannot say that I have seen an improvement only with the diet nor did I see regression after an infraction though I have seen temporary regression with other things like viruses. To further complicate things, my son has a diagnosis of reactive hypoglycemia which requires that he eat only things with a low glycemic index (complex carbs only, very little sugar, lots of protein). There are not a lot of options combining this with either GF/CF or , though my info on the diet is from dated material on the website basicly saying no dairy of any kind but highly processed wheat/gluten is ok, which would be a disaster for a hypoglycemic. I am seriously thinking of quitting GF/CF as my child seems to have significant issues when not on a proper hypoglycemic diet but only very mild (undetectable even to me who watches him like a hawk) if any issues with a GF/CF infraction. Here are my questions: 1) If you refuse to follow the diet, what is Dr. G's position? Does he refuse to treat you? 2) Is soy allowed? 3) Is there anywhere that outlines Dr. G's complete diet that is up to date? It sounds like there have been many changes over the years and most things on the neuroimmunedoc website are not current, including the diet info. 4) What type of testing does Dr. G order for food allergies - skin, blood, stool, etc? Is there a particular reaction that he weighs more heavily than others (i.e. IgG over IgE, skin reactions, etc.)? 5) Are you convinced that your child made significant improvements just following diet alone? 6) If you switched from GF/CF to diet, what was your experience? Any help with the above would be greatly appreciated. Thank you everyone for contributing to this message board. I have learned so much since joining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 My son's school nurse summed up " the diet " as an anti-inflammatory diet. That has helped me visualize " the goal " a lot. Kristy Nardini TazziniTM Stainless Steel Bottles www.tazzini.com kristy@... Phone: 858.243.1929 Fax: 858.724.1418 P Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Lori Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 12:56 PM Subject: RE: DIET QUESTIONS Hi Ranee, The key component to the " " diet sounds very similar to what your son needs, with the exception of complex carbs, which Dr. G does try and eliminate or reduce as they do turn to sugar in the digestion process. This is very similar to most healthy diets you hear of today - consisting mostly of lots of veggies, and protein, limited fruit, carbs only to get the protein in, or to fill the child AFTER you can't get anymore veggies and meat into them. The main goal is to have the child's immune system homeostatic so that the immune system can concentrate on fighting viruses. The child's health is first and foremost. If your child has particular issues, the last thing Dr. G would want to do is inflame them. However he would more then likely question why your child has reactive glycemia and again try and cool it so the immune system can focus on the viral issues. Our last allergy testing was through blood, however Dr. G's clinical experience also gives him a LOT of knowledge that he can usually steer kids in the right direction himself and often uses the allergy testing as a very basic guideline. Things that I felt the need to cling to, for fear that my child would starve or emotionally die without them, are usually the ones I had to get rid of and my child has always been better for it. He survived! So did I.barely! LOL? Talk it over with Dr. G., but trust his experience. He has been doing this a long time and really has a much better sense, believe it or not, of what our kids can and cannot have, then we do. Our goals are all the same.a healthier child will really mean a more connected child. Best wishes, Lori _____ From: <mailto:%40> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of Ranee Sent: April-09-10 2:57 PM <mailto:%40> Subject: DIET QUESTIONS We are in the process of becoming a patient of Dr. G's. We have been with a pretty reputable biomed (not DAN) doc for almost 2 years and have seen significant progress with treatments like amino acids and MB12. I do suspect there is a link b/t viruses and autism for my kid so we were happy to learn about Dr. G. The one thing I am struggling with is the diet, though perhaps for different reasons than most. We have been GF/CF/SF for over 2 years with very few infractions. I cannot say that I have seen an improvement only with the diet nor did I see regression after an infraction though I have seen temporary regression with other things like viruses. To further complicate things, my son has a diagnosis of reactive hypoglycemia which requires that he eat only things with a low glycemic index (complex carbs only, ve ry little sugar, lots of protein). There are not a lot of options combining this with either GF/CF or , though my info on the diet is from dated material on the website basicly saying no dairy of any kind but highly processed wheat/gluten is ok, which would be a disaster for a hypoglycemic. I am seriously thinking of quitting GF/CF as my child seems to have significant issues when not on a proper hypoglycemic diet but only very mild (undetectable even to me who watches him like a hawk) if any iss ues with a GF/CF infraction. Here are my questions: 1) If you refuse to follow the diet, what is Dr. G's position? Does he refuse to treat you? 2) Is soy allowed? 3) Is there anywhere that outlines Dr. G's complete diet that is up to date? It sounds like there have been many changes over the years and most things on the neuroimmunedoc website are not current, including the diet info. 4) What type of testing does Dr. G order for food allergies - skin, blood, stool, etc? Is there a particular reaction that he weighs more heavily than others (i.e. IgG over IgE, skin reactions, etc.)? 5) Are you convinced that your child made significant improvements just following diet alone? 6) If you switched from GF/CF to diet, what was your experience? Any help with the above would be greatly appreciated. Thank you everyone for contributing to this message board. I have learned so much since joining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Thanks Tammy. Will Meridian just send the test kit if you call or do you have to go through a doctor to get it? Did your regular pediatrician order it for you and the other tests as well? I would love to be able to do what you did and go to the appointment with much of the testing completed. Thanks again for your very detailed response. Ranee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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