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Reaction to the vaccines given within 24 hours of birth. In both my children's

cases, probably because of the Thimerosal. When my daughter got home on day

six, she became non-responsive and had to go right back into the hospital to go

back under the lights. Two days without Mommy and Mommy's breast, poor kid. I

sent in milk, but the whole situation was awful. For a while, I wondered if she

had Kernicterus, but now I know she had Mercury poisoning.

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What would be the cause of so many children having jaundice at birth?

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At 07:11 PM 03/09/2002 -0500, you wrote:

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>What would be the cause of so many children having jaundice at birth?

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Vitamin K shot can be the cause

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Well for my son it was the vitamin K shot! I had choosen not to vaccinate. But

knew nothing about the vitamin k shot and thought nothing about the ingredients

or how potent it was so DUh I let them.

Since then I have grown smarter and would not recommend it. There are lots of

alternatives. Oh well it sucked they kept him in the hospital for 3 days. So

bummed we should have been at home!

Now I am alot more direct with our health care. C........

What would be the cause of so many children having jaundice at birth?

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> What would be the cause of so many children having jaundice at

birth?

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the mother geting pitocin induction causes jaundice in the baby,

and / or not allowing the mother to nurse her baby right away

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I think a mother not nursing her baby ENOUGH may be the largest contributing

factor. I <unfortunately> was induced (via pitocin) with my first, who also

received the Vit K shot against my written direction. He was never even a little

bit jaundiced. However, I nursed him within the first 5 min after birth, and

never let him out of my site after that! He nursed on demand from then until he

weaned more than 2 1/2 years later. :)

It's so important that babies nurse...

Liz

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> What would be the cause of so many children having jaundice at

birth?

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the mother geting pitocin induction causes jaundice in the baby,

and / or not allowing the mother to nurse her baby right away

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With , it was definately the Vitamin K. I had a completely natural

birth, and nursed for 2 hours solid after he was born. I was

heartbroken when I had to put him under the lights.

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> What would be the cause of so many children having jaundice at

birth?

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the mother geting pitocin induction causes jaundice in the baby,

and / or not allowing the mother to nurse her baby right away

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Well, my son was birthed at a midwife's clinic,no shots,nursed, and my dh was

sooooo concerned about his color. Never had his bilirubin checked. I wasn't

worried as it IS normal for bfing infants. Finally, dh talked to the mw and she

told him not too worry. He listened to HER!!! We just sat by the window as

much as possible. Kinda miss their " color " whwn it's gone as they then are as

pale as ghosts! lol I guess it depends on your stress factor and belief in

naturallness. I am sure there are incidences of no shot,nured children who

" needed " the lights or something(but I'd prefer a HP's advice). And dif't docs

have dif't bilirubin levels as to when they decide a child " needs " the lights.

So, maybe it's not as necessary as they say. Another OT?

Laurie

With , it was definately the Vitamin K. I had a completely natural

birth, and nursed for 2 hours solid after he was born. I was

heartbroken when I had to put him under the lights.

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> What would be the cause of so many children having jaundice at

birth?

>

the mother geting pitocin induction causes jaundice in the baby,

and / or not allowing the mother to nurse her baby right away

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If a mother has pitocin in labour (or oxytocin) that drug (and some other

drugs too) competes with the sites in the blood that transport the

bilirubin. The more drugs you have that use those sites, the less your baby

can process the bilirubin, the yellower your baby. Go against the way God

designs a baby's metabolism to function, and you just might pay the

price....However, there is a natural situation as well - if you allow the

baby to have his/her full complement of blood, and cut the cord when it is

hard and white, then there is physiological jaundice as part of the laying

down of iron from the the excess blood cells which acts as a buffer for the

baby for a good part of its first year. I believe the body can cope with

that quite okay, but if someone tries to do that as well as have all the

drugs that used the trasport sites that bilirubin does, then you are asking

a bit much of the poor baby's system.

So you might say, then, to not allow the baby the full amount of blood in

the placenta. Well, that is the equivalent of subjecting a baby to a

substantial haemorrhage. Sure, you might not get jaundice. But the baby

then starts life of the back foot, and has no reserve of iron stores to

buffer against maternal neglect of her diet, or just plain " hard times " .

These might not be considered valid arguments in areas outside of rank

malnutrition, but I am not convinced from what I see around me in this

country, that too many young mothers have got a good handle of diet, and the

many issues that surround having a healthy baby.

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Well, that explains it then as we didn't clamp til it was white and hard! Knew

there had to be a logical explanation. Not that I needed one as I trust the

Almighty knew what He was doing when He " created " Mother Nature. Thanks! :)

tho as inquiring minds want to know(and I can use it to calm the dh who still

has medical brainwashing to contend with). Still, ya know, in a hosp if it all

goes naturally, them professionals are gonna want to test for bili if baby

starts to look yella. Time then to head for the exit doors!!

....However, there is a natural situation as well - if you allow the

baby to have his/her full complement of blood, and cut the cord when it is

hard and white, then there is physiological jaundice as part of the laying

down of iron from the the excess blood cells which acts as a buffer for the

baby for a good part of its first year. I believe the body can cope with

that quite okay

Unfortunately, I have to agree. I can think of no one I know that has read a

single book on their pregnancy. I was an info-seeking hound with even my

fifth!!! I just can't feel sorry for those who refuse to be informed. The info

is out there...all they have to do is want to find it. Not that I think many

books cover the diet adaquately except for Brewer's books and any that suggest

his guidelines(like Bradley and some midwives).

but I am not convinced from what I see around me in this

country, that too many young mothers have got a good handle of diet, and the

many issues that surround having a healthy baby.

I couldn't agree more with your " JMO "

Laurie

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> " While chatting in a group of 4 Moms at the DAN! Conference in

Philadelphia, it came up that all of our autistic children had

jaundice at birth. It would be interesting to see some data on

that. "

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at the autism & iron listserv has discussed this; she

referenced www.childscreen.org as having information on jaundice and

other defects clustered in autistic children.

My son's jaundice didn't require lights or drugs but was dark enough

to cause concern about delaying his release. FWIW, I was in 6 days

anyway recovering from complications after emergency caesarean.

Hokkanen

Minneapolis

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Just as a note...just because you don't guve vit K doesn't mean your baby

won't get jaundice. BOth my girls had it worse the my son and he is the

only one that had the vit k.

Tristan 4

Lorna 2.5

Josie 2.5 months

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Please check with your doctor and let us know what he says,, it might be

jaundice OR it might be something else,,

<haydenx7@...> wrote:I notice lately that I have yellowish portions

on the bottom of my

eyes on the eyeball itself. The whole thing isn't yellow, and the

yellow patches come and go, but they're always under my bottom lid. Is

that what jaundice looks like?

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Could there be a correlation between the Vitamin K shot which all babies get minutes after birth and Jaundice? Couldn't that put a strain on the liver given that it is a thick liquid given in a whopping dose for such a tiny body?

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HI

Does anyone know what to do for Jaundice by liver cancer. They won't treat

my mom until her bilirubin number falls below 5 and hers is at 3000

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Hey ,I've been on this regimen for months now. Give your body - your liver for that matter - time to adjust, and this will go away in no time.I'm not a doc, but I'm concerned about yours lowering your dose. Isn't dangerous to do so, and doesn't it increase the risk of building resistance ? Reyataz is well known for causing this side effect, and again, you shouldn't worry to much about it. It takes only a few weeks before it disappears. Plus, it is an excellent regimen that has proven is effectiveness over time. Hope this will help.Best to all the Poz readers.t from Paris, France." R. Cook" <johnca51@...> wrote: Hi Guys and Girls; I read a message from someone about his partner with Cushing's Syndrome and became jaundice after starting Reyataz and Norvir. I had alot of reservations starting Reyataz and Norvir after reading that message, since I also have Cushing's Syndrome, but my Trigiycerides were way to high on Sustiva/Atripla. I started Reyataz, Norvir, and Truvada and Aug 9th and on Sunday the 26th I woke up jundice!!! Went to my PMD and he adjusted my meds to a lower does. Well I hepe this works. Any encouragement or advice? Thanks, R. Cook

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Hey ,I've been on this regimen for months now. Give your body - your liver for that matter - time to adjust, and this will go away in no time.I'm not a doc, but I'm concerned about yours lowering your dose. Isn't dangerous to do so, and doesn't it increase the risk of building resistance ? Reyataz is well known for causing this side effect, and again, you shouldn't worry to much about it. It takes only a few weeks before it disappears. Plus, it is an excellent regimen that has proven is effectiveness over time. Hope this will help.Best to all the Poz readers.t from Paris, France." R. Cook" <johnca51@...> wrote: Hi Guys and Girls; I read a message from someone about his partner with Cushing's Syndrome and became jaundice after starting Reyataz and Norvir. I had alot of reservations starting Reyataz and Norvir after reading that message, since I also have Cushing's Syndrome, but my Trigiycerides were way to high on Sustiva/Atripla. I started Reyataz, Norvir, and Truvada and Aug 9th and on Sunday the 26th I woke up jundice!!! Went to my PMD and he adjusted my meds to a lower does. Well I hepe this works. Any encouragement or advice? Thanks, R. Cook

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Hello,

Do you take any other drugs containing cortisone ? Cushing's Syndrome

is an intoxication due to an overdose of cortisone. Norvir boost the

level of cortisone in blood. So, if you take any drugs containing

cortisone AND Norvir, you should very carefully dose cortisone' level

in blood, every month. Anyway, it is safer not to associate Norvir

with cortisone.

For example :

There have been serious Cushing's Syndromes due to an interaction

between Norvir and a drug against asthma called Seretide, containing

cortisone. Seretide (fluticasone) is to be inhale. It should stay on

the lung, and not go in the blood (GSK says). In fact, it does go a

little into blood, and can induce a Cushing syndrome (my friend had

one). A poster has been published about it, two years ago. I couldn't

find the data itself on internet : _Syndrome de cushing iatrogène lié

à l'interaction entre le ritonavir et la fluticasone chez des patients

infectés par le VIH traités par corticoïdes inhalés : description de 4

cas. N. Valin, V. Garrait, N. De Castro, J.-M. Molina._

Cushing's syndrome can lower DHEA level in the blood. This hormone is

important for bones preservation. Maybe you should dose DHEA in your

blood, and, if too low, take a supplementation of it.

I hope all goes well for you.

All the best

Marc,

France

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> Hi Guys and Girls;

> I read a message from someone about his partner with Cushing's Syndrome

> and became jaundice after starting Reyataz and Norvir. I had alot of

> reservations starting Reyataz and Norvir after reading that message,

> since I also have Cushing's Syndrome, but my Trigiycerides were way to

> high on Sustiva/Atripla.

> I started Reyataz, Norvir, and Truvada and Aug 9th and on Sunday the

> 26th I woke up jundice!!! Went to my PMD and he adjusted my meds to a

> lower does. Well I hepe this works. Any encouragement or advice?

> Thanks, R. Cook

>

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Hello,

Do you take any other drugs containing cortisone ? Cushing's Syndrome

is an intoxication due to an overdose of cortisone. Norvir boost the

level of cortisone in blood. So, if you take any drugs containing

cortisone AND Norvir, you should very carefully dose cortisone' level

in blood, every month. Anyway, it is safer not to associate Norvir

with cortisone.

For example :

There have been serious Cushing's Syndromes due to an interaction

between Norvir and a drug against asthma called Seretide, containing

cortisone. Seretide (fluticasone) is to be inhale. It should stay on

the lung, and not go in the blood (GSK says). In fact, it does go a

little into blood, and can induce a Cushing syndrome (my friend had

one). A poster has been published about it, two years ago. I couldn't

find the data itself on internet : _Syndrome de cushing iatrogène lié

à l'interaction entre le ritonavir et la fluticasone chez des patients

infectés par le VIH traités par corticoïdes inhalés : description de 4

cas. N. Valin, V. Garrait, N. De Castro, J.-M. Molina._

Cushing's syndrome can lower DHEA level in the blood. This hormone is

important for bones preservation. Maybe you should dose DHEA in your

blood, and, if too low, take a supplementation of it.

I hope all goes well for you.

All the best

Marc,

France

>

> Hi Guys and Girls;

> I read a message from someone about his partner with Cushing's Syndrome

> and became jaundice after starting Reyataz and Norvir. I had alot of

> reservations starting Reyataz and Norvir after reading that message,

> since I also have Cushing's Syndrome, but my Trigiycerides were way to

> high on Sustiva/Atripla.

> I started Reyataz, Norvir, and Truvada and Aug 9th and on Sunday the

> 26th I woke up jundice!!! Went to my PMD and he adjusted my meds to a

> lower does. Well I hepe this works. Any encouragement or advice?

> Thanks, R. Cook

>

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I didn't see anybody post the easiest way to combat the jaundice from reyataz.

As my doc told me, DRINK MORE WATER, helps a lot...

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I didn't see anybody post the easiest way to combat the jaundice from reyataz.

As my doc told me, DRINK MORE WATER, helps a lot...

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> Both of my kids were born Jaundice. Not bad enough to keep us in the

> hosp. but clearly jaundice. My oldest was a week late and my second

> born was a few days early...so there wasn't anything in common with

> them as far as how long they had " cooked " (lol). Does this have

> anything to do with me being sick with Candida when I was pregnant

with them?

==>Hi Nell. Candida could have contributed to the problem, but it

wouldn't be the only cause. The main cause is the " nutritional status "

and toxicity (good or bad) of both you and their father at the time of

conception, whether either or both of you had candida or not. Candida

is caused by a depressed immune system, but many people with candida

are not jaundiced.

Bee

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