Apraxia

[Guest guest]

Moria,

I have a lot of documentation in my paper on the mechanisms by

which mercury causes ALS on the

apraxia symptom which ALS also has. Also on some things to do about

it. See

www.home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/als.html

Bernie

[Guest guest]

Hi Listmates:

I have a friend who is prepping her 5 year old son for chelation. Her son is

apraxic and she is wondering if chelation will help him to speak. If there

are any love letters can someone point me in the right direction or if you

have any experience you'd like to share please let me know.

Thanks,

Holly

Ben's mom

[Guest guest]

I would like to know as well. My son will be three next month and has apraxia.

He says bye bye and pa pa. I'm wanting to start chelating and hope this might

help as well.

Diane

[Guest guest]

Diane,

My son is probably more apraxic than he is autistic. Jack is 5 1/2

and we have been chelating him for over a year. All of his

improvements have been w/ regard to motorplanning and awareness but

he still is not speaking, he can say some words: bye, ma, more,hi,

and syllables on demand now, for puzzle he says pa ta. He can dress

himself and undress himself, open locked doors, attempt to color.

He has improved a great deal but I do believe we have along way to

go. I also believe Jack is much more apraxic than most. But yes,

the chelation is definitely helping w/ regards to the apraxia. I do

not know what is worse the apraxia or the autism.

nne

> I would like to know as well. My son will be three next month and

has apraxia. He says bye bye and pa pa. I'm wanting to start

chelating and hope this might help as well.

>

> Diane

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/7/2002 6:07:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

marib005@... writes:

> Diane,

>

> My son is probably more apraxic than he is autistic. Jack is 5 1/2

> and we have been chelating him for over a year. All of his

> improvements have been w/ regard to motorplanning and awareness but

> he still is not speaking, he can say some words: bye, ma, more,hi,

> and syllables on demand now, for puzzle he says pa ta. He can dress

> himself and undress himself, open locked doors, attempt to color.

>

> He has improved a great deal but I do believe we have along way to

> go. I also believe Jack is much more apraxic than most. But yes,

> the chelation is definitely helping w/ regards to the apraxia. I do

> not know what is worse the apraxia or the autism.

>

>

> nne

>

>

I'm sorry for asking, perhaps, a stupid question, but have you both

tested your children to see if they are mercury toxic before deciding to

chelate? I would imagine that if a child was mercury toxic, that would be

the reason to chelate. If it helps with apraxia, great, but isn't the goal

to get rid of the mercury? If a child is not mercury toxic, then you

wouldn't chelate, correct?

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/8/2002 10:16:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

marib005@... writes:

> think the best way to test if metals are causing a problem is to

> try a round and see if an improvement occurs

Again, sorry for my naive question, but... My son was off the charts in

Bismuth and Titanium. I dismissed chelating as a course of treatment because

he did not show mercury toxicity. Would chelating allow him to detox from

the above mentioned toxic elements?

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

I am sorry for asking, perhaps, a stupid question, but have you both

> tested your children to see if they are mercury toxic before

deciding to

> chelate? I would imagine that if a child was mercury toxic, that

would be

> the reason to chelate. If it helps with apraxia, great, but isn't

the goal

> to get rid of the mercury? If a child is not mercury toxic, then

you

> wouldn't chelate, correct?

> Dorothy

>

Dorothy,

I think the best way to test if metals are causing a problem is to

try a round and see if an improvement occurs. This is how I started

and will be how I finish. What if the hair analysis does not

indicate mercury toxicity but the child really is, then you miss

out. We have done a urinalysis on Jack and lead, arsenic and tin

were coming out in the high range, mercury was not high but it is the

sensitivity to the metal that causes the problem. Istarted w/ ALA

alone and the first week Jack got a new sound, the second week he got

another new sound, another week he started doing foward rolls,

another week he started taking toys off the shelf, they are baby step

but always a step foward and Jack is actually saying alot more than I

have indicated.

Also what is working w/ apraxia is partington method of pairing the

sound w/ a sign: eat, drink(but use the cup sign because drink is too

similiar to eat), puzzle, open, up. The signs should be easy enough

for the child to do and reenforcing. Jack has learned all these

signs and is using them spontaneously. We started this method of

therapy 3 weeks ago. Before chelation he was too dyspraxic to have

used signs. Unfortunately once again I am overwhelmed w/ learning it

all.

nne

[Guest guest]

> Her son is

> apraxic and she is wondering if chelation will help him to speak.

Hi,

My son is 3 1/2 yo now, and we started chelation when he was 3. We did the every

3 hours protocol, every end of week.

6 months ago my son had 2-3 words in his vocabulary. Actually right now I can

only remember that he used to say " Ciao " from time to time... very seldom... I

can't remember of any other word, but... there must have been 2-3 more )LOL

Anyway, soon after we started chelation he became too verbal He was sitting

in

front of the tv, repeating words continuously. It was really bad sometimes, but

I

let him do it. It was the only way he wanted to say something, so... it was a

good thing.

Nobody could understand anything from his words, they were really bad. Chinese

Right now.... my son has... I don't even know anymore how many words... many! I

can understand all of them. He is not communicating too well, I mean we still

can't have a conversation, he is not answering questions (I don't think he

understands language that well, I think he is just learning it now) but he's

progressing great and he can use now two words to show me things... like for

example " brown dog " )LOL these are his favorite two words Also he can say

" small fly " and " big fly " and " Mommy and Denis " (these are three words LOL he's

good).

He tells me what he sees in the cartoons... when a character is sleeping, or

when

is taking a bath... And I can always understand his words!

He is so verbal now that many many times I have to yell at him to shut up!

Valentina

[Guest guest]

Dear Moria,

I had already applied the counting rules to my son's hair test.

According to the counting rules, he is not mercury toxic. There had been a

few posts under this subject, " apraxia, " which seemed to indicate the parents

were chelating their child or children in hopes that chelation would help

apraxia. So, my question is: Have there been cases where mercury and lead

were not the problem, but chelation helped rid autistic tendencies, such as,

apraxia, delayed speech, motor planning?

I know my last post was probably not clear.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/8/2002 3:38:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

imginzburg@... writes:

> Dear Dorothy,

> I did the hair test for my son twice - in August last year and in

> January of this year. The results had nothing similar, but both times

> counting rules were not satisfied. But: his blood test done in

> October showed high mercury, and, after we started chelation in

> December, high mercury showed up in urine tests. The conclusion I can

> made for this is that you never know for sure if mercury is a problem

> or not before you start chelation.

> Margaret

>

>

Has the above, or something similar to the above, happened to any

other children out there?

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

>Again, sorry for my naive question, but... My son was off the charts in

>Bismuth and Titanium. I dismissed chelating as a course of treatment

because

>he did not show mercury toxicity. Would chelating allow him to detox from

>the above mentioned toxic elements?

> Dorothy

dear Dorothy,

Not showing mercury on a test (hair, urine, feces, blood) DOES NOT

indicate that your son (or anyone else!) is not mercury toxic.

Please do this:

1. go here:

/files/HOW_TO_hair_test

2. click on section for " the counting rules "

3. read the first few sections. they explain WHY it is so that you cannot

conclude your son is not mercury toxic.

I don't know how to lower bismuth and titanum.

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

Dear Dorothy,

I did the hair test for my son twice - in August last year and in

January of this year. The results had nothing similar, but both times

counting rules were not satisfied. But: his blood test done in

October showed high mercury, and, after we started chelation in

December, high mercury showed up in urine tests. The conclusion I can

made for this is that you never know for sure if mercury is a problem

or not before you start chelation.

Margaret

> Dear Moria,

> I had already applied the counting rules to my son's hair

test.

> According to the counting rules, he is not mercury toxic. There

had been a

> few posts under this subject, " apraxia, " which seemed to indicate

the parents

> were chelating their child or children in hopes that chelation

would help

> apraxia. So, my question is: Have there been cases where mercury

and lead

> were not the problem, but chelation helped rid autistic tendencies,

such as,

> apraxia, delayed speech, motor planning?

> I know my last post was probably not clear.

> Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Hi Dorothy,

> I had already applied the counting rules to my son's hair test.

Oops! Sorry about that!

>According to the counting rules, he is not mercury toxic. There had been a

>few posts under this subject, " apraxia, " which seemed to indicate the

parents

>were chelating their child or children in hopes that chelation would help

>apraxia. So, my question is: Have there been cases where mercury and lead

>were not the problem, but chelation helped rid autistic tendencies, such as,

>apraxia, delayed speech, motor planning?

I don't know. I think IN THEORY chelation should not help people who

are not metal toxic. Although mercury is not exactly easy to tell.

I don't remember if you said your child has other toxics.

But you asked about CASES, and my answer is I don't know. There are

also people who chelate without testing. There are also lots of

kids with various dx's/tendencies with a bunch of OTHER toxic metals

but NOT mercury or lead-- such as antimony, arsenic, aluminum,

copper......

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

nne,

I will do more research on my own. I want to get Andy's book first so

I can formulate questions intelligently. Right now, I am not sure what to

ask. I posted my

son's hair test results and Andy didn't make any comments, so I feel I have

to get a clear picture in my head as to what specifically I think my son's

problems are, before I can even ask what to do.

I just found the earlier postings interesting under the above heading

because I do suspect my son to be apraxic. Bismuth, which he is high in, off

the chart, is noted for causing coordination problems. He does have

coordination problems, motor planning problems, and his articulation stinks.

This is besides the slight stimming and slight lack of eye contact on

occasion. He's come a long way since September 2001 when he was diagnosed.

Anyway, thanks for the response.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Valentina,

Are you still using piracetam? I think it was you that started the

piracetam.

nne

> > Her son is

> > apraxic and she is wondering if chelation will help him to speak.

>

> Hi,

> My son is 3 1/2 yo now, and we started chelation when he was 3. We

did the every

> 3 hours protocol, every end of week.

> 6 months ago my son had 2-3 words in his vocabulary. Actually right

now I can

> only remember that he used to say " Ciao " from time to time... very

seldom... I

> can't remember of any other word, but... there must have been 2-3

more )LOL

> Anyway, soon after we started chelation he became too verbal He

was sitting in

> front of the tv, repeating words continuously. It was really bad

sometimes, but I

> let him do it. It was the only way he wanted to say something,

so... it was a

> good thing.

> Nobody could understand anything from his words, they were really

bad. Chinese

>

> Right now.... my son has... I don't even know anymore how many

words... many! I

> can understand all of them. He is not communicating too well, I

mean we still

> can't have a conversation, he is not answering questions (I don't

think he

> understands language that well, I think he is just learning it now)

but he's

> progressing great and he can use now two words to show me things...

like for

> example " brown dog " )LOL these are his favorite two words Also

he can say

> " small fly " and " big fly " and " Mommy and Denis " (these are three

words LOL he's

> good).

> He tells me what he sees in the cartoons... when a character is

sleeping, or when

> is taking a bath... And I can always understand his words!

> He is so verbal now that many many times I have to yell at him to

shut up!

>

>

> Valentina

[Guest guest]

Dorothy,

I would ask Andy directly but I do think a person can be toxic and

the counting rules may not apply. I am always uncertain about were

the line gets drawn, when does having problems caused by mercury turn

into mercury toxcity. If a round of chelation is done and the child

improves, the child has problems w/ metals. I do remember Andy

saying, you are done when the improvements can no longer be seen.

But I would check with Andy.

nne

> Dear Moria,

> I had already applied the counting rules to my son's hair

test.

> According to the counting rules, he is not mercury toxic. There

had been a

> few posts under this subject, " apraxia, " which seemed to indicate

the parents

> were chelating their child or children in hopes that chelation

would help

> apraxia. So, my question is: Have there been cases where mercury

and lead

> were not the problem, but chelation helped rid autistic tendencies,

such as,

> apraxia, delayed speech, motor planning?

> I know my last post was probably not clear.

> Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Hi all --

Don't know if this has been posted recently . . . so just a quick line or two

regarding the verbal apraxia that often co-exists with autism.

My son is 4, PDD-NOS and was diagnosed as severely apraxic one year ago. In

addition to intensive 1:1 speech therapy through school and private

therapist, we started giving him one capsule of Pro-EFA. We saw a huge

difference in his attempts at spontaneous speech within 2-3 days. Now, almost

one year later, he speaks in 5-8 word phrases, his articulation is still

poor, though.

More info at www.apraxia.cc

Hope this is helpful,

BJ in polis, MD

[Guest guest]

--- I would have to say the Apraxia is worse. My son is 11 and has

not spoken AT ALL since he was 3, soon after a Tetanus shot.

(diagnosed Autistic @ 22 months)

He has made improvement as far as Autistic tendencies through the

years, thanks to natural supplements(NO thanks to DRUGS!) I have

been chelating my son for about a year and his improvements have

increased to the point that I think if he could talk he would be very

near " normal " . He tries now, which is part of his improvement.

Another very significant improvement is that he OBVIOUSLY understands

more and is more able to indicate this with nods, and expression in

his eyes. I believe if I had known about Hg poisoning 5-6 years ago,

my son may have been talking today. KEEP THE HOPE!

God bless, Lindy

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~In @y..., " marib005 " <marib005@h...> wrote:

> Diane,

>

> My son is probably more apraxic than he is autistic. Jack is 5 1/2

> and we have been chelating him for over a year. All of his

> improvements have been w/ regard to motorplanning and awareness but

> he still is not speaking, he can say some words: bye, ma, more,hi,

> and syllables on demand now, for puzzle he says pa ta. He can

dress

> himself and undress himself, open locked doors, attempt to color.

>

> He has improved a great deal but I do believe we have along way to

> go. I also believe Jack is much more apraxic than most. But yes,

> the chelation is definitely helping w/ regards to the apraxia. I

do

> not know what is worse the apraxia or the autism.

>

>

> nne

>

>

> > I would like to know as well. My son will be three next month

and

> has apraxia. He says bye bye and pa pa. I'm wanting to start

> chelating and hope this might help as well.

> >

> > Diane

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> Are you still using piracetam?

Hi nne,

No!! I stopped using it loooong time ago

When I first started to use it, I am sure I've seen some changes in my son's

speech, but they were really small... his words were a little more clear than

usual, but still Chinese. The thing was that my son was speaking so little

back then, that I thought the change was HUGE

I think it helped more in making him understand words/language better.

After a while I stopped it because it seemed like it had no effect anymore.

And I tried it again after a while, but... nothing. So I stopped it. It

didn't make a big change for my son... it was a small one though

Valentina

[Guest guest]

Dorothy,

The lack of eye contact is probably because he knows, he can not

talk, so he avoids people therefore they do not expect him to talk.

I remember when Jack was 3 and he said " more " and then could not get

the word the second time and he turned away and kicked a ball. It

was so subtle but the therapist said it was his way of dealing w/ the

frustration.

I have four children. I have two girls and two boys, Jack my third

is 5, Luke is three and started with stool problems just like Jack

after his immunizations. He received upto 6 months of shots. I put

Luke on GF/cf w/ Jack. Luke has never showed any neurological

symptoms but did not talk much at two. I chelated Luke one weekend

at a very low dose 25mg of DMSA. He started talking more after that

round. I did another round of DMSA and there were improvements in

his stools and more progress. Luke just turn three and today I was

looking for him and I said " Luke were are you? " and he replied " I am

here mommy! " I know he would have been autistic if I did not

intervene and stop the immunizations and I also know the few rounds

of chelation I did with him has kept him normal.

I have Andy Cutler to thank for this because of his book and the

knowledge he shares. Thank God for Andy.(I get choked up every time I

think of this.)

Any way it is all pretty scary but I have had some very good

experiences w/ chelation, following Andy's protocol.

Good luck,

nne

-- In @y..., dask4t@a... wrote:

> nne,

> I will do more research on my own. I want to get Andy's

book first so

> I can formulate questions intelligently. Right now, I am not sure

what to

> ask. I posted my

> son's hair test results and Andy didn't make any comments, so I

feel I have

> to get a clear picture in my head as to what specifically I think

my son's

> problems are, before I can even ask what to do.

> I just found the earlier postings interesting under the

above heading

> because I do suspect my son to be apraxic. Bismuth, which he is

high in, off

> the chart, is noted for causing coordination problems. He does

have

> coordination problems, motor planning problems, and his

articulation stinks.

> This is besides the slight stimming and slight lack of eye contact

on

> occasion. He's come a long way since September 2001 when he was

diagnosed.

> Anyway, thanks for the response.

> Dorothy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/9/2002 10:37:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

marib005@... writes:

> Luke is three and started with stool problems just like Jack

> after his immunizations. He received upto 6 months of shots. I put

> Luke on GF/cf w/ Jack. Luke has never showed any neurological

> symptoms but did not talk much at two. I chelated Luke one weekend

> at a very low dose 25mg of DMSA. He started talking more after that

> round. I did another round of DMSA and there were improvements in

> his stools and more progress. Luke just turn three and today I was

> looking for him and I said " Luke were are you? " and he replied " I am

> here mommy! " I know he would have been autistic if I did not

> intervene and stop the immunizations and I also know the few rounds

> of chelation I did with him has kept him normal.

>

nne,

How incredibly interesting. Troy, who will be three next month -- I'm

sorry, later THIS MONTH, is talking now, but articulation stinks. He also

had stool problems very early on. Loose. Not sure if I can correlate it to

a particular vaccine, but I do remember a rash after one of the vaccines that

went away as fast as it came.

Anyway, I will be keeping all this mind. Thanks for the info.

One more thing, someone once told me that if you are toxic in some

chemical that chelating may help, but it wouldn't undo a lot of the damage?

Do you think that's true at all? The longer I wait, is there more damage to

occur?

Thanks again,

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/10/2002 10:37:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mmitchell_home@... writes:

> He has lots of loose stools like

> Dorothy mentioned.

Dear ,

I wish there is one answer to give you that is proven, but my

experience is that there isn't one answer. What works for some, doesn't work

for all.

With that said, I will tell you what we did and what has worked so

far. His stools were loose and had undigested food in it. He did not move

bowels everyday, more like every three or four days, so the regular

pediatrician was not concerned. They told me it's fine to move your stool

like that. When I went to a nutritionist, she said no, you should move your

bowels everyday.

The gfcf diet was supposed to help all that and more. He has eczema

too and by taking all that he maybe sensitive to, his skin would also

improve. The nutritionist started my son supplements that would help with

his talking, DMG, a multi-vitamin, SNT and cod liver oil, flaxseed oil, both

of which would probably help the skin, and Lactobacillius GG and Sachramyces

Boulardi, which would promote healthy intestinal function and get rid of any

excessive yeast, (which may be the cause of loose stools), also he was taking

Glutenagenics, which was also for the intestines. We did this for three

months and I did not see a change. Actually, the flaxseed oil wasn't given

until later and at that time, he did start moving his bowels everyday, but

still no formed stools.

After getting frustrated with his skin problems and stool problems, I

took him off everything and allowed him to eat gluten all the time. His

stools are now formed. Go figure. I don't know why they were terrible to

begin with, maybe one or two of the supplements did get rid of yeast, but I'm

thinking that the multi-vitamin, SNT, was the cause of keeping the stools

loose. We're three weeks later now and the stools are still formed.

What I want to say about the gfcf diet is that once we started the

diet and supps at the same time, Troy started to talk and his eye contact got

a lot better. He continued to development emotionally and academically, but

at a slower rate than most NT children. We are still cf, because he is very

allergic to milk, cheese and such and we're eggless too because of allergies.

I feel that the supps and diet kick started something for him, so I would

never discourage someone not to try it. Who knows, maybe a month from now

I'll realize that he still needs to be gluten free because he shows

regression.

As I said to begin with, every child is different and different things

work and don't work. I wouldn't discount the diet or dismiss supplements

unless you've tried it and you can see for yourself.

Sorry this isn't much help.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/10/2002 2:06:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

marib005@... writes:

> The loose stools are a give away to blocked enzymes, at least for my

> kids, are they lighter in color?

>

>

Yes, the loose stools were light in color and got lighter when I took away

gluten and put him on supps. After three months of that, I put him back on

gluten and stopped supps. Now his stools are really, really normal. Normal

color, doesn't smell as much as it used to and he moves his bowels every

other day.

As for mercury, I did a hair test and applied counting rules and he

doesn't come up toxic. As to mercury history, I also had a lot of fillings.

After my first child, 18 years ago, who is completely NT, I had my fillings

removed and put in porcelin. My friend is a maxofacial surgeon and he did it

because he's a little on the health nut side, (I term I used before finding

all this stuff out, now I'm a little on the health nut side), and told me it

would be better for me to take all of them out. I did. That had to be three

or four years before I got pregnant. I don't remember ever breaking a

thermometer.

My mother was diagnosed with manic depression when I was about four

yo. She has been on many different medications through the years. Now she

has parkinson's on top of everything. We found out that Stelazine, on of the

medications she took for a long time, (which is recommended as a short term

drug), causes parkinson-type syndrome, so.... I don't know.

We're going on vacation for two weeks. During that time, my husband

and I will be trying to come to a decision. Do we go out and look for a Dan

doctor and chelate or do we think he doesn't need it? It's a tough decision

because we really don't have the money to spend. I spent a fortune on supps

and trying foods that he could have while on the gfcf diet and throwing them

out, bought a food processor, bread maker, special cookie cutters, books and

more books, plus some money for therapists and the nutritionist. Once my son

starts school, June 3rd, and I am back to work on a more consistent basis, (I

only get paid for the amount of work I do), I'll be able to afford some more

expenses.

So, for right now, we're on a wait and see. Thanks for your input.

Once I determined he was not mercury toxic, I almost dismissed chelation

altogether. Now I'm thinking about it again.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

I am new to this group. My son was diagnosed ASD last August at 2 1/2 years.

He is on the higher-functioning end of ASD. He has lots of loose stools like

Dorothy mentioned. Can you please tell me what you specifically are doing? I

read stufff on this list and some say to do this others say not to and I would

like to know what you have done and what supplements are you doing. I am

looking into changing Daulton's diet now.

Thank you for any help. You can email me at mmitchell_home@... if you

would like.

> In a message dated 5/9/2002 10:37:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> marib005@h... writes:

>

>

> > Luke is three and started with stool problems just like Jack

> > after his immunizations. He received upto 6 months of shots. I put

> > Luke on GF/cf w/ Jack. Luke has never showed any neurological

> > symptoms but did not talk much at two. I chelated Luke one weekend

> > at a very low dose 25mg of DMSA. He started talking more after that

> > round. I did another round of DMSA and there were improvements in

> > his stools and more progress. Luke just turn three and today I was

> > looking for him and I said " Luke were are you? " and he replied " I am

> > here mommy! " I know he would have been autistic if I did not

> > intervene and stop the immunizations and I also know the few rounds

> > of chelation I did with him has kept him normal.

> >

>

> nne,

> How incredibly interesting. Troy, who will be three next month -- I'm

> sorry, later THIS MONTH, is talking now, but articulation stinks. He also

> had stool problems very early on. Loose. Not sure if I can correlate it to

> a particular vaccine, but I do remember a rash after one of the vaccines that

> went away as fast as it came.

> Anyway, I will be keeping all this mind. Thanks for the info.

> One more thing, someone once told me that if you are toxic in some

> chemical that chelating may help, but it wouldn't undo a lot of the damage?

> Do you think that's true at all? The longer I wait, is there more damage to

> occur?

> Thanks again,

> Dorothy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dorothy,

The loose stools are a give away to blocked enzymes, at least for my

kids, are they lighter in color?

You can also evaluate if mercury has been a problem for you. I know

mercury has been for me, I remember touching the mercury from a

broken thermometer at about 8. I probably started wearing glasses

around that time. I also had a bout w/ bulimia during my teenage

years, a mercury toxic disorder, I wore contacts since eight grade,

thimerosol is in contact solution. I had fillings put in at 19 after

that time I had a few chin hairs come in, I would think this indicated

a shift in my hormones and after I gave birth to my second child I

had a route canal done and I have had sinus problems since this time,

I have alot of mercury markers but I am really high energy and in

great shape, however knowing what I know about mercury leads me to

believe, I have been somewhat toxic my whole life. I also have a mom

w/ parkinsons and a brother who just found out he is mercury toxic.

I bet you can guess I will be having my fillings removed.

I also think my great long-term memory is a little on the autistic

side.

I think your on the right track,

nne

-- In @y..., dask4t@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/9/2002 10:37:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> marib005@h... writes:

>

>

> > Luke is three and started with stool problems just like Jack

> > after his immunizations. He received upto 6 months of shots. I

put

> > Luke on GF/cf w/ Jack. Luke has never showed any neurological

> > symptoms but did not talk much at two. I chelated Luke one

weekend

> > at a very low dose 25mg of DMSA. He started talking more after

that

> > round. I did another round of DMSA and there were improvements

in

> > his stools and more progress. Luke just turn three and today I

was

> > looking for him and I said " Luke were are you? " and he replied " I

am

> > here mommy! " I know he would have been autistic if I did not

> > intervene and stop the immunizations and I also know the few

rounds

> > of chelation I did with him has kept him normal.

> >

>

> nne,

> How incredibly interesting. Troy, who will be three next

month -- I'm

> sorry, later THIS MONTH, is talking now, but articulation stinks.

He also

> had stool problems very early on. Loose. Not sure if I can

correlate it to

> a particular vaccine, but I do remember a rash after one of the

vaccines that

> went away as fast as it came.

> Anyway, I will be keeping all this mind. Thanks for the

info.

> One more thing, someone once told me that if you are toxic

in some

> chemical that chelating may help, but it wouldn't undo a lot of the

damage?

> Do you think that's true at all? The longer I wait, is there more

damage to

> occur?

> Thanks again,

> Dorothy

>

>

>