Glutathione

[Guest guest]

> Can someone tell me what the difference is between glutamine and

> glutathione? Thanks.

Hi Sharon,

" Glutamine is a non-essential amino acid and is found in large amounts in the

muscles of the body, and since it easily pass through the blood-brain

barrier, it is also known as a superb brain fuel, and some people refer to it

as a " smart-vitamin” – although it is in actual fact no vitamin at all.

It is converted to glutamic acid in the brain, which is essential for

cerebral functions, and increases the amount of GABA (gamma-aminobutyric

acid), which is required for brain functioning and mental activity......... "

" Glutathione is actually a tri-peptide made up the amino acids gamma-glutamic

acid, cysteine, and glycine and is also known as

gamma-glutamylcysteinylglycine or GSH. It is as such not an amino acid, but

because of its close relationship to amino acids, is dealt with here. It is

found in the biggest concentrations in the liver.

It is a powerful anti-oxidant and detoxifies the harmful compounds in the

liver, where it is then excreted through the bile.

The liver also excretes glutathione directly into the bloodstream where it is

used to help maintain the integrity of red blood cells, as well as protecting

white blood cells.

Glutathione is also found in the lungs and intestinal tract where it assists

in carbohydrate metabolism as well as breaking down oxidized fats.

It is also used to prevent oxidative stress in most cells and helps to trap

free radicals that can damage DNA and RNA. GSH also plays major roles in drug

metabolism, calcium metabolism, the gamma-glutamyl cycle, blood platelet and

membrane functions. "

Hope this helps.

Valentina

[Guest guest]

> Andy - Can you explain why you are so adamantly opposed to

glutathione? Many

> of us are using this and in my case it has had positive effects on

my son.

> He is much more verbal, calmer, more focused and his stool is

perfect after

> each IV infusion.

My previous post discussed how by giving it IV the doctor induces an

unphysiological and unnatural state that is potentially harmful.

While many people do find it beneficial, I believe that in most if not

all cases these benefits can be obtained by other means.

The above aren't reasons to avoid it. The reason to avoid it is that

many people suffer serious, permanent and irreversible worsenings from

iv glutathione. I have had many reports of this in children and am

trying to encourage the parents to describe their experiences publicly

for the benefit of others. There is also no way I know of to tell

which children will have problems with it, so it is a case of playing

russian roulette. This issue of substantial and uncontrollable risk

from a procedure that can be replaced with less hazardous

interventions is the reason to avoid it.

Please note that the hallmark of a therapy being really dangerous is

exactly what we see with glutathione iv's and DMPS injections - a

highly medicalized therapy that really has no reason to be delivered

through a needle that the doctor swears on a stack of bibles is

totally safe, he has done a zillion or more with no problems ever,

yada yada yada yada, but patient reports don't agree - some patients

get a lot better, some get a lot worse, and the ones who don't bother

with the needle and use oral therapy instead do just fine but don't

have to pay for an appointment. Also note the typical lack of any

clear indication beyond the fact that you showed up at the alternative

doctor's office. If it was a legitimate therapy they wouldn't be

offering it to everyone, only to those who showed some specific

indication it would be helpful in their particular situation.

>

> Thank you.

You are welcome.

Andy .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . .

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[Guest guest]

Randee - Our baseline test for metals was performed after we had been using

Glutathione (IV about monthly and a little transdermal daily for the last month

and a half) for over five months - my DD was shedding enough Mercury and arsenic

to test toxic. Now we are using Glutathione and Allithiamine (both transdermal)

to chelate. I am sending a specimen in at the end of the week - I'll post our

two-week result, when it arrives. If behavor is any indicator, it should be

loaded!

-Liz P

[Guest guest]

It makes the doctor feel important because he can use a needle and

charge you money.

It doesn't remove metals, it is dangerous, it is seldom all that

useful. If it is useful, you can give the kid NAC or use transdermal

or oral glutathione.

Andy . . .. . . . .

> Could someone please tell me what glutathion is supposed to do. A

doctor told me today that he uses IV glutathion to get out metals.

That doesn't sound right to me, but maybe I'm missing something.

> Thanks,

> Randee

>

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[Guest guest]

michelle, my son's organic acid profile we did through great plains lab

showed that he had decreased pyroglutamic, a metabolite of glutathione. the lab

states that glutathione serves as an antioxidant and also removes toxins. we

have been using it for just about ten days. as of yet, i see no change. laura.

[ ] Glutathione

I see where a number of parents are using glutathione with their

kids. I was wondering what it is for, what's it supposed to do and

if there is a test that would tell me if this is something I should

try for Danelle?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Diane: My son's doctor's assistant was just commenting on the

positive results they have seen from using glutathione, however, I

don't know where to get a cream/gel. Is it prescription? Over the

counter? Do you rub this into your son in the morning/evening? I

guess I want to know the same info as you.

Kim

> I'm new to this list and would like to know if you have any info

on using glutithione for chelating. This is what the doctor is

using for our son. It's a gel that we rub into his inner thighs

once a day. We've been doing it for about a week and have seen some

nice things happen. Thanks everyone.

>

> Diane

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't really know if it's a prescription. The doctor's office sent it to us.

Who is your son's doc? My is Dr. Hicks. Your suppose to rub it on thin skin,

such as the lower back or inner thigh morning and evening. We started out just

once a day since we had constipation issues we're working out. Don't want to

overload him.

Diane

Diane: My son's doctor's assistant was just commenting on the

positive results they have seen from using glutathione, however, I

don't know where to get a cream/gel. Is it prescription? Over the

counter? Do you rub this into your son in the morning/evening? I

guess I want to know the same info as you.

[Guest guest]

> I'm new to this list and would like to know if you have any info

on using glutithione for chelating. This is what the doctor is

using for our son. It's a gel that we rub into his inner thighs

once a day. We've been doing it for about a week and have seen some

nice things happen. Thanks everyone.

>

> Diane

My understanding is that glutathione does not chelate.

If you want to you can read about glutathione and other

" sulfur related issues " here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ANDY_INDEX.html#sulfur

good wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

My son is on Lipo GSH and had a rash on his buttocks about the

second week of taking it. It lasted for about a week and then went

away.

>

> Has anyone had any side effects from the gluathione such as rash

on

> the face and buttocks? My son is taking glutathione orally.

>

> sharon

[Guest guest]

>

> Has anyone had any side effects from the gluathione such as rash on

> the face and buttocks? My son is taking glutathione orally.

I used oral glutathione for my son. It caused improvements AND

negatives, and I decided the negatives were worse than the positives

were good, so I stopped it. I try it every once in a while, to see if

the negatives will disappear. I did not see a rash tho.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana,

Have you tried giving your son the lipoceutical glutathione that Wellness

Pharmacy is distributing? My daughter couldn't tolerate oral or td gsh but has

no problems with this.

www.gshnow.com

www.wellnesspharmacy.com

[ ] Re: glutathione

>

> Has anyone had any side effects from the gluathione such as rash on

> the face and buttocks? My son is taking glutathione orally.

I used oral glutathione for my son. It caused improvements AND

negatives, and I decided the negatives were worse than the positives

were good, so I stopped it. I try it every once in a while, to see if

the negatives will disappear. I did not see a rash tho.

Dana

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[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> Have you tried giving your son the lipoceutical glutathione that

Wellness Pharmacy is distributing? My daughter couldn't tolerate oral

or td gsh but has no problems with this.

No. Does it require rx?

Are you seeing any improvements with that version?

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana,

No Rx required. It has a calming effect on my daughter, she's much less

" stimmy " .

It seems to build up in the body. Many people using it find they have to reduce

the dose after a week or two. I'm giving Aly only 1/4 tsp. per day now, but

started at a full tsp twice a day for the first 2 weeks.

You can call Wellness for more info, they are great. 800-227-2627

Warmly,

[ ] Re: glutathione

> Dana,

> Have you tried giving your son the lipoceutical glutathione that

Wellness Pharmacy is distributing? My daughter couldn't tolerate oral

or td gsh but has no problems with this.

No. Does it require rx?

Are you seeing any improvements with that version?

Dana

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[Guest guest]

> Hi Dana,

> No Rx required. It has a calming effect on my daughter, she's much

less " stimmy " .

What sorts of stims? My son does not really stim any more, except he

will occasionally write letters in the air.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Verbal stims, humming mostly and rocking.

[ ] Re: glutathione

> Hi Dana,

> No Rx required. It has a calming effect on my daughter, she's much

less " stimmy " .

What sorts of stims? My son does not really stim any more, except he

will occasionally write letters in the air.

Dana

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[Guest guest]

> Verbal stims, humming mostly and rocking.

My son has never had those stims, but I suppose it could be effective

for OTHER types of stims, depending on the reasons behind the stims.

Last time I gave oral glutathione, it helped #2 with writing letters

in the air, but it also caused him to swish the saliva in his mouth,

which my #3 does and it annoys me, so I stopped. I thought I saw

improvements with #3, so I did try glutathione with him again. This

time he had major emotional difficulty with it, so I don't know if I

want to try it with #2 again. I will consider the one you mentioned tho.

Thanks

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi

The only one we have had any success with is the Lipo from from Wellness.

_www.gshnow.com_ (http://www.gshnow.com)

buy from here

_www.wellnesshealth.com_ (http://www.wellnesshealth.com)

Mention DAN or NAA for $10 discount.

I don;t think many are using the full dose given on the sites. My son does

best with 4-5 drops 3-4 times per day. Not too expensive that way either

Mandi in UK

Hi all...I'm wondering what glutathione products you all are using. I

have a sneaking suspicion my ASD son has decreased glutathione levels.

[Guest guest]

The issue may not be the glutathione but the amino acid deficit. I have said

many times on this list and others that with a lack of protein digestion the

amino acids are NOT going to be there. The GEM Test from Look For Health does

2 chymotrypsin samples as well as antigens and yeast culture. The test will

show early signs of GI dysfunction even as early as day 3 of life or or

anytime after.

PLease look at _www.LookForHealth.com_ (http://www.lookforhealth.com/)

If you have any questions please email me privately if you wish. I did it

for my kids and it helped them tremendously!

Rich Ferris

Father and Researcher

[Guest guest]

We get liquid glutathione from this website http://www.wellnesshealth.com .

I'm not sure I can explain what it does very well, except that is is a powerful

anti-oxidant that seems to help with what they call 'oxidative stress'. I'm not

sure how it ties into autism, but I do know that we have seen amazing results

since we've been using it with our son who just turned 3. It seems even more

effective when combined with vitamin C.

We have been seeing tons of improvements since we started Metal-free in January.

Then, we added this in late April and the improvements just keep coming. He's

much more verbal, talking in quite complex sentences (I want to sit with Mommy

and read the catepillar book). His pragmatic language is still very very very

weak. He can't tell you what he did today or hold a conversation yet, but he's

still young. He will say " Bless You Mommy " if I sneeze, so I count that as

progress!

But what's really amazed me is the progress he's been making with his motor

planning. He actually walked across a balance beam 6 inches off the floor

(holding onto the wall for support), voluntarily! Before, he would never even

consider getting on it, let alone getting up all by himself. He's practicing

throwing and catching a balloon - he's still not consistent, but he's working on

it. And he climbs everywhere now. Before I never had to worry about him

climbing into places I didn't want him, now, if he wants something, he's there.

It's truly amazing.

The only drawback is that we've had a yeast problem for the last month or so and

his visual stimming is back, along with scripting. Neither is to the point that

I can't redirect him, but he does do it a lot. We've been treating for yeast

and I think it's getting better. But also, I have seen a pattern of increased

stimming whenever he makes a big leap.

Anyway, I hope that answers your question. I really love the stuff and have

seen great improvements with it. And, when we mix it with a little grape juice,

takes it no problem, even though it does smell like rotten eggs.

Mom to , ASD, 3

Glutathione

I have a doctor friend recommeding glutathione for some of his

alzheimber's patients but keep reading about this on the board (and

another one geared toward parents of ASD kids.) What is glutathione,

can it help a sensory kid with IgA deficiency, where do you buy it and

how does one take it--capsule, liquid, etc?

Thanks for the help,

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[Guest guest]

> I have a doctor friend recommeding glutathione for some of his

> alzheimber's patients but keep reading about this on the board (and

> another one geared toward parents of ASD kids.) What is glutathione,

> can it help a sensory kid with IgA deficiency, where do you buy it and

> how does one take it--capsule, liquid, etc?

Info here

http://www.nutritionadvisor.com/glutathione.html

http://www.tacanow.com/glutathione.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

" Glutathione is one of the most powerful antioxidants found in the

body and helps to protect neurons from damage. Glutatione depletion

consequently leads to the death of additional neurons. "

(http://www.autismanswer.com/articles/yasko/role_of_excitotoxins.html)

.. I think most of ASD kids can not produce this antioxidant (see the

book " Evidence of Harm " ), because genetical reasons or other onset

triggers; taking the Glutathione probably is one of the lastest

treatment.

> We get liquid glutathione from this website

http://www.wellnesshealth.com . I'm not sure I can explain what it

does very well, except that is is a powerful anti-oxidant that seems

to help with what they call 'oxidative stress'. I'm not sure how it

ties into autism, but I do know that we have seen amazing results

since we've been using it with our son who just turned 3. It seems

even more effective when combined with vitamin C.

>

> We have been seeing tons of improvements since we started Metal-

free in January. Then, we added this in late April and the

improvements just keep coming. He's much more verbal, talking in

quite complex sentences (I want to sit with Mommy and read the

catepillar book). His pragmatic language is still very very very

weak. He can't tell you what he did today or hold a conversation

yet, but he's still young. He will say " Bless You Mommy " if I

sneeze, so I count that as progress!

>

> But what's really amazed me is the progress he's been making with

his motor planning. He actually walked across a balance beam 6

inches off the floor (holding onto the wall for support),

voluntarily! Before, he would never even consider getting on it, let

alone getting up all by himself. He's practicing throwing and

catching a balloon - he's still not consistent, but he's working on

it. And he climbs everywhere now. Before I never had to worry about

him climbing into places I didn't want him, now, if he wants

something, he's there. It's truly amazing.

>

> The only drawback is that we've had a yeast problem for the last

month or so and his visual stimming is back, along with scripting.

Neither is to the point that I can't redirect him, but he does do it

a lot. We've been treating for yeast and I think it's getting

better. But also, I have seen a pattern of increased stimming

whenever he makes a big leap.

>

> Anyway, I hope that answers your question. I really love the stuff

and have seen great improvements with it. And, when we mix it with a

little grape juice, takes it no problem, even though it does

smell like rotten eggs.

>

>

> Mom to , ASD, 3

>

> Glutathione

>

>

> I have a doctor friend recommeding glutathione for some of his

> alzheimber's patients but keep reading about this on the board

(and

> another one geared toward parents of ASD kids.) What is

glutathione,

> can it help a sensory kid with IgA deficiency, where do you buy

it and

> how does one take it--capsule, liquid, etc?

>

> Thanks for the help,

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone,

I am planning to give LipoCeutical Glutathione for my 2 ADHD kids, Any

suggestion? Does anyone give me more information and benefits on it.

Buddy

Father of 2 ADHD

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jgembk <jgemdl@...> wrote: " Glutathione is one of the most powerful

antioxidants found in the

body and helps to protect neurons from damage. Glutatione depletion

consequently leads to the death of additional neurons. "

(http://www.autismanswer.com/articles/yasko/role_of_excitotoxins.html)

.. I think most of ASD kids can not produce this antioxidant (see the

book " Evidence of Harm " ), because genetical reasons or other onset

triggers; taking the Glutathione probably is one of the lastest

treatment.

> We get liquid glutathione from this website

http://www.wellnesshealth.com . I'm not sure I can explain what it

does very well, except that is is a powerful anti-oxidant that seems

to help with what they call 'oxidative stress'. I'm not sure how it

ties into autism, but I do know that we have seen amazing results

since we've been using it with our son who just turned 3. It seems

even more effective when combined with vitamin C.

>

> We have been seeing tons of improvements since we started Metal-

free in January. Then, we added this in late April and the

improvements just keep coming. He's much more verbal, talking in

quite complex sentences (I want to sit with Mommy and read the

catepillar book). His pragmatic language is still very very very

weak. He can't tell you what he did today or hold a conversation

yet, but he's still young. He will say " Bless You Mommy " if I

sneeze, so I count that as progress!

>

> But what's really amazed me is the progress he's been making with

his motor planning. He actually walked across a balance beam 6

inches off the floor (holding onto the wall for support),

voluntarily! Before, he would never even consider getting on it, let

alone getting up all by himself. He's practicing throwing and

catching a balloon - he's still not consistent, but he's working on

it. And he climbs everywhere now. Before I never had to worry about

him climbing into places I didn't want him, now, if he wants

something, he's there. It's truly amazing.

>

> The only drawback is that we've had a yeast problem for the last

month or so and his visual stimming is back, along with scripting.

Neither is to the point that I can't redirect him, but he does do it

a lot. We've been treating for yeast and I think it's getting

better. But also, I have seen a pattern of increased stimming

whenever he makes a big leap.

>

> Anyway, I hope that answers your question. I really love the stuff

and have seen great improvements with it. And, when we mix it with a

little grape juice, takes it no problem, even though it does

smell like rotten eggs.

>

>

> Mom to , ASD, 3

>

> Glutathione

>

>

> I have a doctor friend recommeding glutathione for some of his

> alzheimber's patients but keep reading about this on the board

(and

> another one geared toward parents of ASD kids.) What is

glutathione,

> can it help a sensory kid with IgA deficiency, where do you buy

it and

> how does one take it--capsule, liquid, etc?

>

> Thanks for the help,

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

How much are you using for your 3 year old?

> We get liquid glutathione from this website

http://www.wellnesshealth.com . I'm not sure I can explain what it

does very well, except that is is a powerful anti-oxidant that seems

to help with what they call 'oxidative stress'. I'm not sure how it

ties into autism, but I do know that we have seen amazing results

since we've been using it with our son who just turned 3. It seems

even more effective when combined with vitamin C.

in Oceanside, CA

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[Guest guest]

We give him 1/4 tsp once in the morning and once at night. We started out with

1/8th once a day, then twice, then up to 1/4 twice a day. I think we did each

bump after a week. Definitely keep an eye on yeast, but it works wonderfully,

especially with extra vitamin C.

Re: Glutathione

How much are you using for your 3 year old?

[Guest guest]

, I just read the site info on this and have a couple of questions. Do

you mix it into anything like water, juice or milk or does your son take it

straight? Does it have a taste? My other dilemma is the price for 4oz. My dd

is 11 but the size of an adult and 4oz doesn't seem like it will get me too far.

Oh well my decision, I would like your comments on the taste though. Thanks,

Jackie.

Primer <sprimer1@...> wrote:How much are you using for your 3 year

old?

> We get liquid glutathione from this website

http://www.wellnesshealth.com . I'm not sure I can explain what it

does very well, except that is is a powerful anti-oxidant that seems

to help with what they call 'oxidative stress'. I'm not sure how it

ties into autism, but I do know that we have seen amazing results

since we've been using it with our son who just turned 3. It seems

even more effective when combined with vitamin C.

in Oceanside, CA

Fighting for one child, in hopes it helps another child.

Updated 4-11-05 to include...

~Doing the best I can with the hand I was dealt~

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