Re: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

[Guest guest]

Hi Susie,I had similar problem. I had the nasal swab test and tested positive for nasal staph. My LLMD prescribed BEG spray from hopkinton drug. It works well. I also had a problem w/glandulars making me nervous and hyper. I started taking cytozyme AD about 1 month ago and it is really working well:http://www.bioticsresearch.com/node/1505 it doesn't make me hyper or nervous. I take one pill in the morning. it does not contain glandulars but will support your adrenal.I hope this info is helpful for

you.Roxanne To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:30 PM Subject: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

Hi all,

Was wondering if anyone is experiencing an increase in symptoms (headaches, post-nasal drip, fatigue)when you are in an air-conditioning draft or even outside on a nice day, but with a cool breeze blowing. My situation is so bad that I have to wear a hat even at 60 or 62 degrees, and I still get an increase in symptoms. In the winter, I need to wear a hat & a hooded jacket but I still have worsening symptoms still. It is one of my most severe problems because it limits me to the point that I have become more home-bound because I don't want to become sicker than I already am. We've had to stop going out to eat because no matter where I sit, I am in a draft & I become so stressed out because I know I am going to have big problems in the next few days. I know I have low thyroid (Hashimoto's) but other people do too & don't have the severe reactions that I do. Unfortunately, I have been on all thyroid meds there are & none helped me,

only made me feel worse, so my doctor said not to take anything. My TSH is usually around 3 or 4 (it's supposed to be around 1 or so). I've had tons of cortisol saliva tests & mostly came back ok except for elevated night time saliva. I feel that my adrenals must be shot but don't know what else to try for them either. The glandulars make me nervous. Rhodiola helped me at one time, but then it stopped giving me energy. I don't know if it is a lyme thing or what. I just wanted to know if there is anybody else that is having these problems & how you are dealing with them. Thanks for any thoughts.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Hi Susie,Forgot to mention one thing. I found out not too long ago that I have severe allergy to mold. that's why all the running nose/problems happens w/cold air. the mold allergy also severely weakens the immune system even more than lyme and coinfections. the weak immune system is why I think I got the staph and why I think its so hard to be in the cold air and feeling so ill the next days. I never knew I had mold in my place. I had/have no visible mold but now that I am more informed about mold, I am able to find it. For example, if you have any carpet in your place, you will imho have mold since carpet is a magnet for dust and dust is a magnet for mold.

It doesn't affect people who don't have mold allergy or weakened immune system. so people don't pay attention to it. but we've got lyme and mold allergy so it affects us greatly. I have been doing mold remediation the past few months. and I am planning to do mold allergy desensitization. I can give you more info regarding that if you want.Blessings,Roxanne To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:30 PM Subject: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

Hi all,

Was wondering if anyone is experiencing an increase in symptoms (headaches, post-nasal drip, fatigue)when you are in an air-conditioning draft or even outside on a nice day, but with a cool breeze blowing. My situation is so bad that I have to wear a hat even at 60 or 62 degrees, and I still get an increase in symptoms. In the winter, I need to wear a hat & a hooded jacket but I still have worsening symptoms still. It is one of my most severe problems because it limits me to the point that I have become more home-bound because I don't want to become sicker than I already am. We've had to stop going out to eat because no matter where I sit, I am in a draft & I become so stressed out because I know I am going to have big problems in the next few days. I know I have low thyroid (Hashimoto's) but other people do too & don't have the severe reactions that I do. Unfortunately, I have been on all thyroid meds there are & none helped me,

only made me feel worse, so my doctor said not to take anything. My TSH is usually around 3 or 4 (it's supposed to be around 1 or so). I've had tons of cortisol saliva tests & mostly came back ok except for elevated night time saliva. I feel that my adrenals must be shot but don't know what else to try for them either. The glandulars make me nervous. Rhodiola helped me at one time, but then it stopped giving me energy. I don't know if it is a lyme thing or what. I just wanted to know if there is anybody else that is having these problems & how you are dealing with them. Thanks for any thoughts.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Khaya,

No, I didn't stop taking rhodiola because my naturopath at the time said to just

keep taking it. I was only taking 50 mg daily, but recently when I tried to up

it to 100 mg, it was making me tired instead of giving me energy. Today I just

started Nutramedix Adrenal Support at only 5 drops & will see how that goes.

Thanks.

Susie

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > Was wondering if anyone is experiencing an increase in symptoms (headaches,

post-nasal drip, fatigue)when you are in an air-conditioning draft or even

outside on a nice day, but with a cool breeze blowing. My situation is so bad

that I have to wear a hat even at 60 or 62 degrees, and I still get an increase

in symptoms. In the winter, I need to wear a hat & a hooded jacket but I still

have worsening symptoms still. It is one of my most severe problems because it

limits me to the point that I have become more home-bound because I don't want

to become sicker than I already am. We've had to stop going out to eat because

no matter where I sit, I am in a draft & I become so stressed out because I know

I am going to have big problems in the next few days. I know I have low thyroid

(Hashimoto's) but other people do too & don't have the severe reactions that I

do. Unfortunately, I have been on all thyroid meds there are & none helped me,

only made me feel worse, so my doctor said not to take anything. My TSH is

usually around 3 or 4 (it's supposed to be around 1 or so). I've had tons of

cortisol saliva tests & mostly came back ok except for elevated night time

saliva. I feel that my adrenals must be shot but don't know what else to try

for them either. The glandulars make me nervous. Rhodiola helped me at one

time, but then it stopped giving me energy. I don't know if it is a lyme thing

or what. I just wanted to know if there is anybody else that is having these

problems & how you are dealing with them. Thanks for any thoughts.

> >

> > Susie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Roxanne,

Years ago, I had a nasal swab test for fungus, but not staph. Do you remember

the test name or the lab by any chance? I'd have to find a doctor that could do

the test too or did you take the swab test by yourself? Thanks so much for

taking the time to answer. I just started Nutramedix Adrenal support today at

only 5 drops & will see how it goes, but at least now I have another one to try

if it doesn't work out. This was very helpful to me.

Susie

>

> Hi Susie,

>

>

> I had similar problem.  I had the nasal swab test and tested positive for

nasal staph.  My LLMD prescribed BEG spray from hopkinton drug.  It works

well.  

>

> I also had a problem w/glandulars making me nervous and hyper.  I started

taking cytozyme AD about 1 month ago and it is really working well:

> http://www.bioticsresearch.com/node/1505 

>

>

> it doesn't make me hyper or nervous. I take one pill in the morning.  it does

not contain glandulars but will support your adrenal.

>

> I hope this info is helpful for you.

>

> Roxanne

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:30 PM

> Subject: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

>

>

>  

> Hi all,

>

> Was wondering if anyone is experiencing an increase in symptoms (headaches,

post-nasal drip, fatigue)when you are in an air-conditioning draft or even

outside on a nice day, but with a cool breeze blowing. My situation is so bad

that I have to wear a hat even at 60 or 62 degrees, and I still get an increase

in symptoms. In the winter, I need to wear a hat & a hooded jacket but I still

have worsening symptoms still. It is one of my most severe problems because it

limits me to the point that I have become more home-bound because I don't want

to become sicker than I already am. We've had to stop going out to eat because

no matter where I sit, I am in a draft & I become so stressed out because I know

I am going to have big problems in the next few days. I know I have low thyroid

(Hashimoto's) but other people do too & don't have the severe reactions that I

do. Unfortunately, I have been on all thyroid meds there are & none helped me,

only made me feel

> worse, so my doctor said not to take anything. My TSH is usually around 3 or

4 (it's supposed to be around 1 or so). I've had tons of cortisol saliva tests

& mostly came back ok except for elevated night time saliva. I feel that my

adrenals must be shot but don't know what else to try for them either. The

glandulars make me nervous. Rhodiola helped me at one time, but then it stopped

giving me energy. I don't know if it is a lyme thing or what. I just wanted to

know if there is anybody else that is having these problems & how you are

dealing with them. Thanks for any thoughts.

>

> Susie

>

[Guest guest]

Roxanne,

First of all, what test did you take to find out about the mold allergy? Years

ago, I had a skin prick test done from an allergist & only dust mites & I think

mold came back. The allergist didn't tell me to do anything, so I never pursued

it (that was before I got real sick). But I have taken out all the rugs in my

house a couple of years ago. We did find mold in one of our cellar rooms on the

beams last year. It had to have been there years before we noticed it. My

husband cleaned it up, I did air testing in the room & nothing was drastically

bad from the test. How do you find mold if it is not visible? I had a man come

out to look at various places in the cellar & he didn't see anything glaring.

I'd be very interested in finding out about mold allergy desensitization if you

have the time. Do you think it's possible to rife for mold? I thank you very

much for this additional info.

Susie

>

> Hi Susie,

>

> Forgot to mention one thing.  I found out not too long ago that I have severe

allergy to mold.  that's why all the running nose/problems happens w/cold air.

 the mold allergy also severely weakens the immune system even more than lyme

and coinfections.   the weak immune system is why I think I got the staph and

why I think its so hard to be in the cold air and feeling so ill the next days.

 

>

> I never knew I had mold in my place.  I had/have no visible mold but now that

I am more informed about mold, I am able to find it.  For example, if you have

any carpet in your place, you will imho have mold since carpet is a magnet for

dust and dust is a magnet for mold.  It doesn't affect people who don't have

mold allergy or weakened immune system.  so people don't pay attention to it.

 but we've got lyme and mold allergy so it affects us greatly.   I have been

doing mold remediation the past few months.  and I am planning to do mold

allergy desensitization.  I can give you more info regarding that if you want.

>

> Blessings,

> Roxanne

>  

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:30 PM

> Subject: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

>

>

>  

> Hi all,

>

> Was wondering if anyone is experiencing an increase in symptoms (headaches,

post-nasal drip, fatigue)when you are in an air-conditioning draft or even

outside on a nice day, but with a cool breeze blowing. My situation is so bad

that I have to wear a hat even at 60 or 62 degrees, and I still get an increase

in symptoms. In the winter, I need to wear a hat & a hooded jacket but I still

have worsening symptoms still. It is one of my most severe problems because it

limits me to the point that I have become more home-bound because I don't want

to become sicker than I already am. We've had to stop going out to eat because

no matter where I sit, I am in a draft & I become so stressed out because I know

I am going to have big problems in the next few days. I know I have low thyroid

(Hashimoto's) but other people do too & don't have the severe reactions that I

do. Unfortunately, I have been on all thyroid meds there are & none helped me,

only made me feel

> worse, so my doctor said not to take anything. My TSH is usually around 3 or

4 (it's supposed to be around 1 or so). I've had tons of cortisol saliva tests

& mostly came back ok except for elevated night time saliva. I feel that my

adrenals must be shot but don't know what else to try for them either. The

glandulars make me nervous. Rhodiola helped me at one time, but then it stopped

giving me energy. I don't know if it is a lyme thing or what. I just wanted to

know if there is anybody else that is having these problems & how you are

dealing with them. Thanks for any thoughts.

>

> Susie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzie and Roxanen I have began the desallergy hoem kit I will let you know if it works in 2 weeks when i tiwill be done once .

For mold you d better to read abotu dct Shoemaker or the posts about it . we need to get rid of it very thoroughly it is not good

allergic or not ,

Kindly marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 11:40 AMSubject: Re: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

Roxanne,First of all, what test did you take to find out about the mold allergy? Years ago, I had a skin prick test done from an allergist & only dust mites & I think mold came back. The allergist didn't tell me to do anything, so I never pursued it (that was before I got real sick). But I have taken out all the rugs in my house a couple of years ago. We did find mold in one of our cellar rooms on the beams last year. It had to have been there years before we noticed it. My husband cleaned it up, I did air testing in the room & nothing was drastically bad from the test. How do you find mold if it is not visible? I had a man come out to look at various places in the cellar & he didn't see anything glaring. I'd be very interested in finding out about mold allergy desensitization if you have the time. Do you think it's possible to rife for mold? I thank you very much for this additional info. Susie>> Hi Susie,> > Forgot to mention one thing. Â I found out not too long ago that I have severe allergy to mold. Â that's why all the running nose/problems happens w/cold air. Â the mold allergy also severely weakens the immune system even more than lyme and coinfections. Â the weak immune system is why I think I got the staph and why I think its so hard to be in the cold air and feeling so ill the next days. Â > > I never knew I had mold in my place. Â I had/have no visible mold but now that I am more informed about mold, I am able to find it. Â For example, if you have any carpet in your place, you will imho have mold since carpet is a magnet for dust and dust is a magnet for mold.

 It doesn't affect people who don't have mold allergy or weakened immune system.  so people don't pay attention to it.  but we've got lyme and mold allergy so it affects us greatly.  I have been doing mold remediation the past few months.  and I am planning to do mold allergy desensitization.  I can give you more info regarding that if you want.> > Blessings,> Roxanne>  > > > ________________________________> > To: Lyme_and_Rife > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:30 PM> Subject: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air> > >  > Hi all,> > Was wondering if anyone is experiencing an increase in symptoms

(headaches, post-nasal drip, fatigue)when you are in an air-conditioning draft or even outside on a nice day, but with a cool breeze blowing. My situation is so bad that I have to wear a hat even at 60 or 62 degrees, and I still get an increase in symptoms. In the winter, I need to wear a hat & a hooded jacket but I still have worsening symptoms still. It is one of my most severe problems because it limits me to the point that I have become more home-bound because I don't want to become sicker than I already am. We've had to stop going out to eat because no matter where I sit, I am in a draft & I become so stressed out because I know I am going to have big problems in the next few days. I know I have low thyroid (Hashimoto's) but other people do too & don't have the severe reactions that I do. Unfortunately, I have been on all thyroid meds there are & none helped me, only made me feel> worse, so my doctor said not to take

anything. My TSH is usually around 3 or 4 (it's supposed to be around 1 or so). I've had tons of cortisol saliva tests & mostly came back ok except for elevated night time saliva. I feel that my adrenals must be shot but don't know what else to try for them either. The glandulars make me nervous. Rhodiola helped me at one time, but then it stopped giving me energy. I don't know if it is a lyme thing or what. I just wanted to know if there is anybody else that is having these problems & how you are dealing with them. Thanks for any thoughts.> > Susie>

[Guest guest]

Hi Susie,My LLMD did some blood/IgG tests for mold. that's when I realized I had a mold allergy. I also worked on trying to improve my immune system the past couple of years. it is still really bad but has improved alittle the past year but unfortunately as my immune system improved, my reaction to mold got alot stronger. Now I can walk into a room and tell you if it has mold based on my symtoms. Its not pleasant. I think the body tries to protect itself by making the immune system weak so that one doesn't have a violent reaction to the

mold.For people w/mold allergy, air testing is useless. we react to such minute amounts that the air sampling is not able to detect. We are I think actually reacting to the mycotoxins from the mold and there is no test that I know of to test for mycotoxins. You could have a very small amount of mold in your attic/cellar but the mycotoxins are in the air which travels throughout the house. so the mycotoxins could be all throughout your house but the mold is in some tiny spot in your attic/cellar. so the air sampling in your bedroom or living room for example doesn't show anything. I dont know about cellars but I know that the wall space is connected to the attic so air is coming through all the holes int the electrical outlets and light switches from the attic/wall space. if you have central air or a/c then the air is drawn from the attic and circulates in your home so the mycotoxins go

everywhere in your home from that tiny spot of mold in the attic.I also had a window replaced recently. I live in a condo building. I saw that when they removed the outside wood siding on the building to get to the window that there was mold underneath the wood siding and on the plastic that covers the internal wood/insulation. I think alot of peoples homes are build like that. where there is wood studs then insulation then plastic on top of it then an outer wood siding. the outer wood siding is not sealed so its easy for mold to grow inside there. mold is more active in winter months so you'll notice worse symtoms in cold/overcast days. so alot of us are living in a cocoon of mold without realizing it.Another thing I noticed was that all refrigerators in grocery stores are contaminated w/mold. so when you bring home anything refrigerated theres mycotoxins on

it. and so your frig gets contaminated w/it. I think pretty much everyones frig is contaminated w/mold because of this.Another area I had problem w/mold was I have concrete subfloors. mold loves to grow on concrete. its typical for contractors/bulders to not cover the floor under the vanity/cabinets. so the floor under my bathroom vanity and under the kitchen cabinets is contaminated w/mold. I am in the process of fixing this.To find a doctor who does mold desensitization, you can go here:http://www.aaemonline.organd select your state in the left hand side of the page and click "go". I plan to start the desensitization in June. I had one visit w/my doctor. He wanted me to do a blood test to make sure I was strong enough for the skin test. they will skin test me for molds/candida/dust

mites in June. then do the desensitization based on the results.I think maybe the reason your allergist did nothing when you got positive skin test for mold is because I think most regular allergist don't do mold desensitization. I live in the San Francisco Bay area and I called a bunch of regular allergist and none of them did mold desensitization. not sure why. I think they could make alot of money if they did. but maybe they are making enough money so they dont care.You can rife for mold but when I rife for mold I get really ill. so I dont anymore. I think I have too many toxins to be able to rife for mold. I also still have mold exposure due to the unfinished concrete under my cabinets so that could also be why I get too ill from rifing for mold. Based on your symptoms that you explained, I suspect you too have mycotoxin/mold exposure in your home so

I think you might also get too ill from rifing.Blessings,Roxanne To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 8:40 AM Subject: Re: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

Roxanne,

First of all, what test did you take to find out about the mold allergy? Years ago, I had a skin prick test done from an allergist & only dust mites & I think mold came back. The allergist didn't tell me to do anything, so I never pursued it (that was before I got real sick). But I have taken out all the rugs in my house a couple of years ago. We did find mold in one of our cellar rooms on the beams last year. It had to have been there years before we noticed it. My husband cleaned it up, I did air testing in the room & nothing was drastically bad from the test. How do you find mold if it is not visible? I had a man come out to look at various places in the cellar & he didn't see anything glaring. I'd be very interested in finding out about mold allergy desensitization if you have the time. Do you think it's possible to rife for mold? I thank you very much for this additional info.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,is that a home kit for mold desensitization?where did you get it? is there any info about it online?Thanks,Roxanne To: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:27 AM Subject: Re: Re: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

Hi Suzie and Roxanen I have began the desallergy hoem kit I will let you know if it works in 2 weeks when i tiwill be done once .

For mold you d better to read abotu dct Shoemaker or the posts about it . we need to get rid of it very thoroughly it is not good

allergic or not ,

Kindly marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 11:40 AMSubject: Re: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

Roxanne,First of all, what test did you take to find out about the mold allergy? Years ago, I had a skin prick test done from an allergist & only dust mites & I think mold came back. The allergist didn't tell me to do anything, so I never pursued it (that was before I got real sick). But I have taken out all the rugs in my house a couple of years ago. We did find mold in one of our cellar rooms on the beams last year. It had to have been there years before we noticed it. My husband cleaned it up, I did air testing in the room & nothing was drastically bad from the test. How do you find mold if it is not visible? I had a man come out to look at various places in the cellar & he didn't see anything glaring. I'd be very interested in finding out about mold allergy desensitization if you have the time. Do you think it's possible to rife for mold? I thank you very much for this additional info. Susie>> Hi Susie,> > Forgot to mention one thing. Â I found out not too long ago that I have severe allergy to mold. Â that's why all the running nose/problems happens w/cold air. Â the mold allergy also severely weakens the immune system even more than lyme and coinfections. Â the weak immune system is why I think I got the staph and why I think its so hard to be in the cold air and feeling so ill the next days. Â > > I never knew I had mold in my place. Â I had/have no visible mold but now that I am more informed about mold, I am able to find it. Â For example, if you have any carpet in your place, you will imho have mold since carpet is a magnet for dust and dust is a magnet for

mold.

 It doesn't affect people who don't have mold allergy or weakened immune system.  so people don't pay attention to it.  but we've got lyme and mold allergy so it affects us greatly.  I have been doing mold remediation the past few months.  and I am planning to do mold allergy desensitization.  I can give you more info regarding that if you want.> > Blessings,> Roxanne>  > > > ________________________________> > To: Lyme_and_Rife > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:30 PM> Subject: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air> > >  > Hi all,> > Was wondering if anyone is experiencing an increase in

symptoms

(headaches, post-nasal drip, fatigue)when you are in an air-conditioning draft or even outside on a nice day, but with a cool breeze blowing. My situation is so bad that I have to wear a hat even at 60 or 62 degrees, and I still get an increase in symptoms. In the winter, I need to wear a hat & a hooded jacket but I still have worsening symptoms still. It is one of my most severe problems because it limits me to the point that I have become more home-bound because I don't want to become sicker than I already am. We've had to stop going out to eat because no matter where I sit, I am in a draft & I become so stressed out because I know I am going to have big problems in the next few days. I know I have low thyroid (Hashimoto's) but other people do too & don't have the severe reactions that I do. Unfortunately, I have been on all thyroid meds there are & none helped me, only made me feel> worse, so my doctor said not to take

anything. My TSH is usually around 3 or 4 (it's supposed to be around 1 or so). I've had tons of cortisol saliva tests & mostly came back ok except for elevated night time saliva. I feel that my adrenals must be shot but don't know what else to try for them either. The glandulars make me nervous. Rhodiola helped me at one time, but then it stopped giving me energy. I don't know if it is a lyme thing or what. I just wanted to know if there is anybody else that is having these problems & how you are dealing with them. Thanks for any thoughts.> > Susie>

[Guest guest]

You can also rife for the mycotoxins. My GB4000 has a program for aflotoxin,

and perhaps some others ...

Khaya

PS: Being sensitive enough to recognize mold in the environment is not all bad.

My husband has asthma, so if we go some place where he senses mold, we leave.

Same with animal dander. Since we got rid of our cat (in 1991), he no longer

has to take asthma medication, either. K

>

> Hi Susie,

>

> My LLMD did some blood/IgG tests for mold.  that's when I realized I had a

mold allergy.  I also worked on trying to improve my immune system the past

couple of years.  it is still really bad but has improved alittle the past year

but unfortunately as my immune system improved, my reaction to mold got alot

stronger.  Now I can walk into a room and tell you if it has mold based on my

symtoms.  Its not pleasant.   I think the body tries to protect itself by making

the immune system weak so that one doesn't have a violent reaction to the mold.

>

> For people w/mold allergy, air testing is useless.  we react to such minute

amounts that the air sampling is not able to detect.  We are I think actually

reacting to the mycotoxins from the mold and there is no test that I know of to

test for mycotoxins.  You could have a very small amount of mold in your

attic/cellar but the mycotoxins are in the air which travels throughout the

house.  so the mycotoxins could be all throughout your house but the mold is in

some tiny spot in your attic/cellar.  so the air sampling in your bedroom or

living room for example doesn't show anything.   I dont know about cellars but I

know that the wall space is connected to the attic so air is coming through all

the holes int the electrical outlets and light switches from the attic/wall

space.  if you have central air or a/c then the air is drawn from the attic and

circulates in your home so the mycotoxins go everywhere in your home from that

tiny spot of mold in the

> attic.

>

> I also had a window replaced recently. I live in a condo building.  I saw that

when they removed the outside wood siding on the building to get to the window

that there was mold underneath the wood siding and on the plastic that covers

the internal wood/insulation.  I think alot of peoples homes are build like

that.  where there is wood studs then insulation then plastic on top of it then

an outer wood siding.   the outer wood siding is not sealed so its easy for mold

to grow inside there.  mold is more active in winter months so you'll notice

worse symtoms in cold/overcast days.  so alot of us are living in a cocoon of

mold without realizing it.

>

> Another thing I noticed was that all refrigerators in grocery stores are

contaminated w/mold.  so when you bring home anything refrigerated theres

mycotoxins on it.  and so your frig gets contaminated w/it.  I think pretty much

everyones frig is contaminated w/mold because of this.

>

> Another area I had problem w/mold was I have concrete subfloors.  mold loves

to grow on concrete.  its typical for contractors/bulders to not cover the floor

under the vanity/cabinets.  so the floor under my bathroom vanity and under the

kitchen cabinets is contaminated w/mold.  I am in the process of fixing this.

>

> To find a doctor who does mold desensitization, you can go here:

> http://www.aaemonline.org

>

> and select your state in the left hand side of the page and click " go " .  

>

> I plan to start the desensitization in June. I had one visit w/my doctor.  He

wanted me to do a blood test to make sure I was strong enough for the skin test.

 they will skin test me for molds/candida/dust mites in June.  then do the

desensitization based on the results.

>

> I think maybe the reason your allergist did nothing when you got positive skin

test for mold is because I think most regular allergist don't do mold

desensitization. I live in the San Francisco Bay area and I called a bunch of

regular allergist and none of them did mold desensitization.  not sure why.   I

think they could make alot of money if they did.  but maybe they are making

enough money so they dont care.

>

> You can rife for mold but when I rife for mold I get really ill.  so I dont

anymore.  I think I have too many toxins to be able to rife for mold.  I also

still have mold exposure due to the unfinished concrete under my cabinets so

that could also be why I get too ill from rifing for mold.  Based on your

symptoms that you explained, I suspect you too have mycotoxin/mold exposure in

your home so I think you might also get too ill from rifing.

>

> Blessings,

> Roxanne

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 8:40 AM

> Subject: Re: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

>

>

>  

> Roxanne,

>

> First of all, what test did you take to find out about the mold allergy?

Years ago, I had a skin prick test done from an allergist & only dust mites & I

think mold came back. The allergist didn't tell me to do anything, so I never

pursued it (that was before I got real sick). But I have taken out all the rugs

in my house a couple of years ago. We did find mold in one of our cellar rooms

on the beams last year. It had to have been there years before we noticed it.

My husband cleaned it up, I did air testing in the room & nothing was

drastically bad from the test. How do you find mold if it is not visible? I had

a man come out to look at various places in the cellar & he didn't see anything

glaring. I'd be very interested in finding out about mold allergy

desensitization if you have the time. Do you think it's possible to rife for

mold? I thank you very much for this additional info.

>

> Susie

>

[Guest guest]

Roxanne,

I have an appointment tomorrow with a new primary care doctor that is in my

plan. I will ask her if she can test me for mold, for starters. If she can't,

maybe the website you gave me has doctors that will do the blood test, skin test

& desensitization. It sounds like a nightmare trying to find mold in a house.

But every house must have some mold. It seems like the key is to become

desensitized to it so that it doesn't bother us. Thank you so much for your

time & info. I wish you luck with your mold issues.

Susie

>

> Hi Susie,

>

> My LLMD did some blood/IgG tests for mold.  that's when I realized I had a

mold allergy.  I also worked on trying to improve my immune system the past

couple of years.  it is still really bad but has improved alittle the past year

but unfortunately as my immune system improved, my reaction to mold got alot

stronger.  Now I can walk into a room and tell you if it has mold based on my

symtoms.  Its not pleasant.   I think the body tries to protect itself by making

the immune system weak so that one doesn't have a violent reaction to the mold.

>

> For people w/mold allergy, air testing is useless.  we react to such minute

amounts that the air sampling is not able to detect.  We are I think actually

reacting to the mycotoxins from the mold and there is no test that I know of to

test for mycotoxins.  You could have a very small amount of mold in your

attic/cellar but the mycotoxins are in the air which travels throughout the

house.  so the mycotoxins could be all throughout your house but the mold is in

some tiny spot in your attic/cellar.  so the air sampling in your bedroom or

living room for example doesn't show anything.   I dont know about cellars but I

know that the wall space is connected to the attic so air is coming through all

the holes int the electrical outlets and light switches from the attic/wall

space.  if you have central air or a/c then the air is drawn from the attic and

circulates in your home so the mycotoxins go everywhere in your home from that

tiny spot of mold in the

> attic.

>

> I also had a window replaced recently. I live in a condo building.  I saw that

when they removed the outside wood siding on the building to get to the window

that there was mold underneath the wood siding and on the plastic that covers

the internal wood/insulation.  I think alot of peoples homes are build like

that.  where there is wood studs then insulation then plastic on top of it then

an outer wood siding.   the outer wood siding is not sealed so its easy for mold

to grow inside there.  mold is more active in winter months so you'll notice

worse symtoms in cold/overcast days.  so alot of us are living in a cocoon of

mold without realizing it.

>

> Another thing I noticed was that all refrigerators in grocery stores are

contaminated w/mold.  so when you bring home anything refrigerated theres

mycotoxins on it.  and so your frig gets contaminated w/it.  I think pretty much

everyones frig is contaminated w/mold because of this.

>

> Another area I had problem w/mold was I have concrete subfloors.  mold loves

to grow on concrete.  its typical for contractors/bulders to not cover the floor

under the vanity/cabinets.  so the floor under my bathroom vanity and under the

kitchen cabinets is contaminated w/mold.  I am in the process of fixing this.

>

> To find a doctor who does mold desensitization, you can go here:

> http://www.aaemonline.org

>

> and select your state in the left hand side of the page and click " go " .  

>

> I plan to start the desensitization in June. I had one visit w/my doctor.  He

wanted me to do a blood test to make sure I was strong enough for the skin test.

 they will skin test me for molds/candida/dust mites in June.  then do the

desensitization based on the results.

>

> I think maybe the reason your allergist did nothing when you got positive skin

test for mold is because I think most regular allergist don't do mold

desensitization. I live in the San Francisco Bay area and I called a bunch of

regular allergist and none of them did mold desensitization.  not sure why.   I

think they could make alot of money if they did.  but maybe they are making

enough money so they dont care.

>

> You can rife for mold but when I rife for mold I get really ill.  so I dont

anymore.  I think I have too many toxins to be able to rife for mold.  I also

still have mold exposure due to the unfinished concrete under my cabinets so

that could also be why I get too ill from rifing for mold.  Based on your

symptoms that you explained, I suspect you too have mycotoxin/mold exposure in

your home so I think you might also get too ill from rifing.

>

> Blessings,

> Roxanne

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 8:40 AM

> Subject: Re: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

>

>

>  

> Roxanne,

>

> First of all, what test did you take to find out about the mold allergy?

Years ago, I had a skin prick test done from an allergist & only dust mites & I

think mold came back. The allergist didn't tell me to do anything, so I never

pursued it (that was before I got real sick). But I have taken out all the rugs

in my house a couple of years ago. We did find mold in one of our cellar rooms

on the beams last year. It had to have been there years before we noticed it.

My husband cleaned it up, I did air testing in the room & nothing was

drastically bad from the test. How do you find mold if it is not visible? I had

a man come out to look at various places in the cellar & he didn't see anything

glaring. I'd be very interested in finding out about mold allergy

desensitization if you have the time. Do you think it's possible to rife for

mold? I thank you very much for this additional info.

>

> Susie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Susie,Yes, I agree w/you. You can definitely clean up things to reduce exposure but I don't think you can ever completely get rid of mold since it is just about everywhere. I am hoping the desensitization works so I can get some relief. I hope you can too.Blessings,Roxanne To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

Roxanne,

I have an appointment tomorrow with a new primary care doctor that is in my plan. I will ask her if she can test me for mold, for starters. If she can't, maybe the website you gave me has doctors that will do the blood test, skin test & desensitization. It sounds like a nightmare trying to find mold in a house. But every house must have some mold. It seems like the key is to become desensitized to it so that it doesn't bother us. Thank you so much for your time & info. I wish you luck with your mold issues.

Susie

>

> Hi Susie,

>

> My LLMD did some blood/IgG tests for mold. that's when I realized I had a mold allergy. I also worked on trying to improve my immune system the past couple of years. it is still really bad but has improved alittle the past year but unfortunately as my immune system improved, my reaction to mold got alot stronger. Now I can walk into a room and tell you if it has mold based on my symtoms. Its not pleasant. I think the body tries to protect itself by making the immune system weak so that one doesn't have a violent reaction to the mold.

>

> For people w/mold allergy, air testing is useless. we react to such minute amounts that the air sampling is not able to detect. We are I think actually reacting to the mycotoxins from the mold and there is no test that I know of to test for mycotoxins. You could have a very small amount of mold in your attic/cellar but the mycotoxins are in the air which travels throughout the house. so the mycotoxins could be all throughout your house but the mold is in some tiny spot in your attic/cellar. so the air sampling in your bedroom or living room for example doesn't show anything. I dont know about cellars but I know that the wall space is connected to the attic so air is coming through all the holes int the electrical outlets and light switches from the attic/wall space. if you have central air or a/c then the air is drawn from the attic and circulates in your home so the mycotoxins go everywhere in your home

from that tiny spot of mold in the

> attic.

>

> I also had a window replaced recently. I live in a condo building. I saw that when they removed the outside wood siding on the building to get to the window that there was mold underneath the wood siding and on the plastic that covers the internal wood/insulation. I think alot of peoples homes are build like that. where there is wood studs then insulation then plastic on top of it then an outer wood siding. the outer wood siding is not sealed so its easy for mold to grow inside there. mold is more active in winter months so you'll notice worse symtoms in cold/overcast days. so alot of us are living in a cocoon of mold without realizing it.

>

> Another thing I noticed was that all refrigerators in grocery stores are contaminated w/mold. so when you bring home anything refrigerated theres mycotoxins on it. and so your frig gets contaminated w/it. I think pretty much everyones frig is contaminated w/mold because of this.

>

> Another area I had problem w/mold was I have concrete subfloors. mold loves to grow on concrete. its typical for contractors/bulders to not cover the floor under the vanity/cabinets. so the floor under my bathroom vanity and under the kitchen cabinets is contaminated w/mold. I am in the process of fixing this.

>

> To find a doctor who does mold desensitization, you can go here:

> http://www.aaemonline.org

>

> and select your state in the left hand side of the page and click "go".

>

> I plan to start the desensitization in June. I had one visit w/my doctor. He wanted me to do a blood test to make sure I was strong enough for the skin test. they will skin test me for molds/candida/dust mites in June. then do the desensitization based on the results.

>

> I think maybe the reason your allergist did nothing when you got positive skin test for mold is because I think most regular allergist don't do mold desensitization. I live in the San Francisco Bay area and I called a bunch of regular allergist and none of them did mold desensitization. not sure why. I think they could make alot of money if they did. but maybe they are making enough money so they dont care.

>

> You can rife for mold but when I rife for mold I get really ill. so I dont anymore. I think I have too many toxins to be able to rife for mold. I also still have mold exposure due to the unfinished concrete under my cabinets so that could also be why I get too ill from rifing for mold. Based on your symptoms that you explained, I suspect you too have mycotoxin/mold exposure in your home so I think you might also get too ill from rifing.

>

> Blessings,

> Roxanne

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 8:40 AM

> Subject: Re: OT: Hyperreaction to cold air

>

>

>

> Roxanne,

>

> First of all, what test did you take to find out about the mold allergy? Years ago, I had a skin prick test done from an allergist & only dust mites & I think mold came back. The allergist didn't tell me to do anything, so I never pursued it (that was before I got real sick). But I have taken out all the rugs in my house a couple of years ago. We did find mold in one of our cellar rooms on the beams last year. It had to have been there years before we noticed it. My husband cleaned it up, I did air testing in the room & nothing was drastically bad from the test. How do you find mold if it is not visible? I had a man come out to look at various places in the cellar & he didn't see anything glaring. I'd be very interested in finding out about mold allergy desensitization if you have the time. Do you think it's possible to rife for mold? I thank you very much for this additional info.

>

> Susie

>