RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING/eggs

[Guest guest]

When IgG4 is high for whole eggs does it mean yolk, egg white or both????

Kavita

From: Mel J <mel.j@...>

Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING

nids

Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 9:05 PM

hi Lori

i am too interested in why Kathy says that it is reliable

ok here is the explaination i got off my health care professional

IgE skin prick test, which test for an immediate response by the immune system

to certain foods etc

IgG4 is a blood serum test done for intolerances, which can take upto 72 hours

for the immune system to react. hence therefore being unnoticed or the delay in

a reaction which can present in numerous ways, depending on the person, like

asthma, skin rashes, ezcma etc, due to that time period people dont often

associate those things with food intolerances, or the immune system display to

those foods.

Also what happens with the IgG4 intolerance foods, the body produces blood

antigens, and its those antigens that show up in the blood serum tests. now when

the body produces those antigens, the TH2 Natural killer cells go into over

drive and fight the food antigens, hence the reason our kids are sick etc,

because instead of fighting the viruses etc the NKS are fighting the antigens to

the food IGGs. now if you are like me and have spent 43 years of eating these

foods you will end up with NO th2 NK cells left, yep i have zero, so i have no

defence mechanisms any more and i have to try and build up what is left of my

th1 to protect myself. you can only find this out thru specific immune system

panel tests.

we are awaiting results from belgium for my son.

also i have to mention that for example my IgG4 to caesin was that severe it hit

the limit of a score of 2000, so whilst i am off the dairy it still may take 2

to 3 years for the blood antigens to reach a normal limit, thats why when you

test and you have been off, just say dairy for 12 months and you still have

antigens, its because it takes the body and the immune system along time to

reset. but if you compare the initial results to  the new ones there should be

a reduction over a period of time.

From: lbharris@...

Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:22:35 -0400

Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING

 

   

     

     

      Hi Kathy,

Can you elaborate on this a bit more?  If the testing is done through blood

serum why would it not be reliable?

I do understand that skin scratch tests are not reliable for kids with an

immune dysfunction simply because it is only used to detect a histamine

response, thus the skin welt or reaction.  However, if the immune system is

not functioning, it may not necessarily produce histamine.  Somehow, I

always had more faith in the serum tests thinking the blood doesn't lie???

All the years you have treated your daughter for allergies, was it detected

through blood results like IgE, Eosinophils, etc. or was it strictly her

reaction to things such as typical watery eyes, stuffy nose, cough, exzema,

etc.in addition to what we parents know is behaviour?

I appreciate your input as I am REALLY trying to focus on allergies right

now, again, still, for my son.

Many thanks in advance,

Lori

_____ 

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

JOSKAT95@...

Sent: June-23-10 6:13 PM

Subject: Re: Re: ALLERGY TESTING

These kind of allergy tests are not necessarily reliable in individuals with

dysfunctional immune systems.

on

Re: ALLERGY TESTING

There are several immunoglobulin tests. IgE, IgM, IgG, and IgA.

You can do these yourself through Great PLains Labs.

>

> My son was 3 when he had the 'SKIN PRICK' test for food allergies. Results

were 'NEGATIVE'.

> He is now 5 yrs old and we would like to know more about the 'INTOLERANCE'

testing that can be done as well. (IS IT CALLED THE IEG?).

>

> Also, where can a family on 'low income' get this test done?

>

> Any help would be greatly appreciated!

>

> THANK YOU,

>

> Inessa &

>

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I don’t know the answer to that, but I do know that the whites are usually the

problematic part.

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kavita

mallik

Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:49 AM

Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING/eggs

When IgG4 is high for whole eggs does it mean yolk, egg white or both????

Kavita

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill@... <mailto:klimas_bill%40> >

Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING

<mailto:%40>

Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 9:39 AM

This is a quote I pulled out of a discussion after the XMRV announcement

regarding TH1 and TH2. It explain the Rnase factor as well.

It is attached

Bill

--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Mel J <mel.j@... <mailto:mel.j%40live.com.au> >

wrote:

From: Mel J <mel.j@... <mailto:mel.j%40live.com.au> >

Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING

nids <mailto:nids%40>

Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 9:05 PM

hi Lori

i am too interested in why Kathy says that it is reliable

ok here is the explaination i got off my health care professional

IgE skin prick test, which test for an immediate response by the immune system

to certain foods etc

IgG4 is a blood serum test done for intolerances, which can take upto 72 hours

for the immune system to react. hence therefore being unnoticed or the delay in

a reaction which can present in numerous ways, depending on the person, like

asthma, skin rashes, ezcma etc, due to that time period people dont often

associate those things with food intolerances, or the immune system display to

those foods.

Also what happens with the IgG4 intolerance foods, the body produces blood

antigens, and its those antigens that show up in the blood serum tests. now when

the body produces those antigens, the TH2 Natural killer cells go into over

drive and fight the food antigens, hence the reason our kids are sick etc,

because instead of fighting the viruses etc the NKS are fighting the antigens to

the food IGGs. now if you are like me and have spent 43 years of eating these

foods you will end up with NO th2 NK cells left, yep i have zero, so i have no

defence mechanisms any more and i have to try and build up what is left of my

th1 to protect myself. you can only find this out thru specific immune system

panel tests.

we are awaiting results from belgium for my son.

also i have to mention that for example my IgG4 to caesin was that severe it hit

the limit of a score of 2000, so whilst i am off the dairy it still may take 2

to 3 years for the blood antigens to reach a normal limit, thats why when you

test and you have been off, just say dairy for 12 months and you still have

antigens, its because it takes the body and the immune system along time to

reset. but if you compare the initial results to the new ones there should be a

reduction over a period of time.

<mailto:%40>

From: lbharris@... <mailto:lbharris%40cogeco.ca>

Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:22:35 -0400

Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING

Hi Kathy,

Can you elaborate on this a bit more? If the testing is done through blood

serum why would it not be reliable?

I do understand that skin scratch tests are not reliable for kids with an

immune dysfunction simply because it is only used to detect a histamine

response, thus the skin welt or reaction. However, if the immune system is

not functioning, it may not necessarily produce histamine. Somehow, I

always had more faith in the serum tests thinking the blood doesn't lie???

All the years you have treated your daughter for allergies, was it detected

through blood results like IgE, Eosinophils, etc. or was it strictly her

reaction to things such as typical watery eyes, stuffy nose, cough, exzema,

etc.in addition to what we parents know is behaviour?

I appreciate your input as I am REALLY trying to focus on allergies right

now, again, still, for my son.

Many thanks in advance,

Lori

_____

From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

JOSKAT95@... <mailto:JOSKAT95%40aol.com>

Sent: June-23-10 6:13 PM

<mailto:%40>

Subject: Re: Re: ALLERGY TESTING

These kind of allergy tests are not necessarily reliable in individuals with

dysfunctional immune systems.

on

Re: ALLERGY TESTING

There are several immunoglobulin tests. IgE, IgM, IgG, and IgA.

You can do these yourself through Great PLains Labs.

>

> My son was 3 when he had the 'SKIN PRICK' test for food allergies. Results

were 'NEGATIVE'.

> He is now 5 yrs old and we would like to know more about the 'INTOLERANCE'

testing that can be done as well. (IS IT CALLED THE IEG?).

>

> Also, where can a family on 'low income' get this test done?

>

> Any help would be greatly appreciated!

>

> THANK YOU,

>

> Inessa &

>

[Guest guest]

hi Kavita

bothmyself and my husband are whole egg, but dermott is only extreme in egg

white, so egg yolk is ok for him

From: kavita_d_mallik@...

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:49:05 -0700

Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING/eggs

When IgG4 is high for whole eggs does it mean yolk, egg white or both????

Kavita

From: Mel J <mel.j@...>

Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING

nids

Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 9:05 PM

hi Lori

i am too interested in why Kathy says that it is reliable

ok here is the explaination i got off my health care professional

IgE skin prick test, which test for an immediate response by the immune system

to certain foods etc

IgG4 is a blood serum test done for intolerances, which can take upto 72 hours

for the immune system to react. hence therefore being unnoticed or the delay in

a reaction which can present in numerous ways, depending on the person, like

asthma, skin rashes, ezcma etc, due to that time period people dont often

associate those things with food intolerances, or the immune system display to

those foods.

Also what happens with the IgG4 intolerance foods, the body produces blood

antigens, and its those antigens that show up in the blood serum tests. now when

the body produces those antigens, the TH2 Natural killer cells go into over

drive and fight the food antigens, hence the reason our kids are sick etc,

because instead of fighting the viruses etc the NKS are fighting the antigens to

the food IGGs. now if you are like me and have spent 43 years of eating these

foods you will end up with NO th2 NK cells left, yep i have zero, so i have no

defence mechanisms any more and i have to try and build up what is left of my

th1 to protect myself. you can only find this out thru specific immune system

panel tests.

we are awaiting results from belgium for my son.

also i have to mention that for example my IgG4 to caesin was that severe it hit

the limit of a score of 2000, so whilst i am off the dairy it still may take 2

to 3 years for the blood antigens to reach a normal limit, thats why when you

test and you have been off, just say dairy for 12 months and you still have

antigens, its because it takes the body and the immune system along time to

reset. but if you compare the initial results to the new ones there should be a

reduction over a period of time.

From: lbharris@...

Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:22:35 -0400

Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING

Hi Kathy,

Can you elaborate on this a bit more? If the testing is done through blood

serum why would it not be reliable?

I do understand that skin scratch tests are not reliable for kids with an

immune dysfunction simply because it is only used to detect a histamine

response, thus the skin welt or reaction. However, if the immune system is

not functioning, it may not necessarily produce histamine. Somehow, I

always had more faith in the serum tests thinking the blood doesn't lie???

All the years you have treated your daughter for allergies, was it detected

through blood results like IgE, Eosinophils, etc. or was it strictly her

reaction to things such as typical watery eyes, stuffy nose, cough, exzema,

etc.in addition to what we parents know is behaviour?

I appreciate your input as I am REALLY trying to focus on allergies right

now, again, still, for my son.

Many thanks in advance,

Lori

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

JOSKAT95@...

Sent: June-23-10 6:13 PM

Subject: Re: Re: ALLERGY TESTING

These kind of allergy tests are not necessarily reliable in individuals with

dysfunctional immune systems.

on

Re: ALLERGY TESTING

There are several immunoglobulin tests. IgE, IgM, IgG, and IgA.

You can do these yourself through Great PLains Labs.

>

> My son was 3 when he had the 'SKIN PRICK' test for food allergies. Results

were 'NEGATIVE'.

> He is now 5 yrs old and we would like to know more about the 'INTOLERANCE'

testing that can be done as well. (IS IT CALLED THE IEG?).

>

> Also, where can a family on 'low income' get this test done?

>

> Any help would be greatly appreciated!

>

> THANK YOU,

>

> Inessa &

>