Re: Sprouts

[Guest guest]

, the book I've found to be most complete and available, especially when I'm not on-line, is Bowes and Church's Food Values of Portions Commonly Used by A.T. Pennington. It is published by Lippincott.

There are some listings for sprouts in , Vegetables, Vegetable Products and Vegetable Salads in the above citation. This was the handbook for dieticians and others in the medical professions; whether or not it still has that standing I do not know, but I use it constantly for dietary information.

Quoting from the preface to the first edition: " The purpose of this book is to supply authoritative data on the nutritional values of foods in a form for quick and easy reference. In teaching nutrition to students of medicine, dentistry, dental hygiene and public health nursing, food values based on common measures of portions frequently served have been found most useful. " Signed, dePlanter Bowes and F. Church, November 1937.

The copy I have is the 17th edition and from that preface: " ...the .... goal established for the first edition ..... has remained the goal for all subsequent editions. " Signed, A.T. Pennington, Ph.D., R.D., February 1997.

I wish you well in your search.

Ruth P.

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From: Tiktin-Fanti <andreatf1@...>

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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:06:37 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: [ ] Sprouts

I have searched the U.S. nutritional database, and

could not find any information on sprouts (They list

only brussels sprouts). Where can I find information

like protein, carbohydrate, fiber, etc. for wheat,

corn, pea, and various others?

Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

--- Ruth <cccucc@...> wrote:

> , the book I've found to be most complete and

> available, especially

> when I'm not on-line, is Bowes and Church's Food

> Values of Portions Commonly

> Used by A.T. Pennington. It is published by

> Lippincott.

>

> There are some listings for sprouts in , Vegetables,

> Vegetable Products and

> Vegetable Salads in the above citation. This was

> the handbook for

> dieticians and others in the medical professions;

> whether or not it still

Thank you, Ruth, for the information. I will try to

get a used copy.

> has that standing I do not know, but I use it

> constantly for dietary

> information.

>

> Quoting from the preface to the first edition: " The

> purpose of this book is

> to supply authoritative data on the nutritional

> values of foods in a form

> for quick and easy reference. In teaching nutrition

> to students of

> medicine, dentistry, dental hygiene and public

> health nursing, food values

> based on common measures of portions frequently

> served have been found most

> useful. " Signed, dePlanter Bowes and F.

> Church, November 1937.

>

> The copy I have is the 17th edition and from that

> preface: " ...the .... goal

> established for the first edition ..... has remained

> the goal for all

> subsequent editions. " Signed, A.T. Pennington,

> Ph.D., R.D., February

> 1997.

>

> I wish you well in your search.

>

> Ruth P.

>

>

>

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> From: Tiktin-Fanti <andreatf1@...>

> Reply-

> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:06:37 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Subject: [ ] Sprouts

>

>

> I have searched the U.S. nutritional database, and

> could not find any information on sprouts (They list

> only brussels sprouts). Where can I find information

> like protein, carbohydrate, fiber, etc. for wheat,

> corn, pea, and various others?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/19/03 2:06:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,

BrenRuble@... writes:

> In the NT book Sally mentions there are certain vegetables that should be

> consumed cooked rather than raw (cabbage, broccoli, brussel sprouts, etc).

> I'm wondering about the sprouts. Does anyone know if the sprouts of these

> vegetables are ok or should they be steamed or cooked as well? I just

> sprouted some broccoli seeds for my chickens and was wondering about

tossing

>

> some on a salad.

All sprouts of any plant should be cooked because they contain an irritant to

keep predators away. That said, I eat raw sprouts on salads all the time.

If I eat them alone, my mouth gets itchy. I figure in small amounts they're

ok.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

The small salad sprouts, like broccoli, are ok. The larger sprouts, like bean

sprouts, need to be lightly cooked. Alfalfa sprouts are not to be eaten at all.

Judy

BrenRuble@... wrote:In the NT book Sally mentions there are certain

vegetables that should be

consumed cooked rather than raw (cabbage, broccoli, brussel sprouts, etc).

I'm wondering about the sprouts. Does anyone know if the sprouts of these

vegetables are ok or should they be steamed or cooked as well? I just

sprouted some broccoli seeds for my chickens and was wondering about tossing

some on a salad. Thanks -

[Guest guest]

You are right - I forgot that NT says you are not to overconsume raw sprouts.

So what is overconsume?

1 oz., 1 lb, 10 lbs., 1 time a day or 10 times a day, once a week or every day?

And I forgot, cook sprouted grains.

Judy

ChrisMasterjohn@... wrote:In a message dated 1/19/03 2:06:32 AM Eastern

Standard Time,

BrenRuble@... writes:

All sprouts of any plant should be cooked because they contain an irritant to

keep predators away.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/19/03 9:03:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jtseniors@... writes:

> You are right - I forgot that NT says you are not to overconsume raw

sprouts.

> So what is overconsume?

> 1 oz., 1 lb, 10 lbs., 1 time a day or 10 times a day, once a week or every

> day?

> And I forgot, cook sprouted grains.

> Judy

*shrug* I don't know. If my mouth doesn't itch, I figure I'm fine.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/19/03 2:55:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, je@...

writes:

> why not alfalfa sprouts? mold?

> what about if you spray with CS?

>

btw, if you like alfalfa sprouts, try clover. I can't tell the difference.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/19/03 2:55:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, je@...

writes:

> why not alfalfa sprouts? mold?

> what about if you spray with CS?

Sally says in NT that they have a protein that damages the immune system,

which is broken down when the alfalfa plant matures. She mentions it in the

section on sprouting grains.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

why not alfalfa sprouts? mold?

what about if you spray with CS?

jen

----- Original Message -----

From: " Judy Toney " <jtseniors@...>

< >

Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:50 AM

Subject: Re: sprouts

>

> The small salad sprouts, like broccoli, are ok. The larger sprouts, like

bean sprouts, need to be lightly cooked. Alfalfa sprouts are not to be

eaten at all.

> Judy

>

> BrenRuble@... wrote:In the NT book Sally mentions there are certain

vegetables that should be

> consumed cooked rather than raw (cabbage, broccoli, brussel sprouts, etc).

> I'm wondering about the sprouts. Does anyone know if the sprouts of these

> vegetables are ok or should they be steamed or cooked as well? I just

> sprouted some broccoli seeds for my chickens and was wondering about

tossing

> some on a salad. Thanks -

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

did someone say alfalfa was bad?

what about other sprouts.. clover, broccoli, chia, fenugreek, radish etc

jen

----- Original Message -----

From: " peter lickwar " <k1fun@...>

< >

Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:52 PM

Subject: sprouts

> Someone recently posted a question about sprouts (which I deleted). I

think

> the problem was that the sprouts were getting moldy before they got very

> big. Are you sure it is mold and not root hairs which are white and fuzzy

> and can look like mold?

>

> -Linnea

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/22/03 12:14:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, je@...

writes:

> did someone say alfalfa was bad?

> what about other sprouts.. clover, broccoli, chia, fenugreek, radish etc

Jen, according to NT, alfalafa sprouts have a protein that damages the immune

system in high amounts. These other sprouts do not have that problem. I

have not looked into Sally's claim myself, but since I find clover sprouts

indistinguishable from alfalfa, I'm satisfied to take her word for it.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

Sharyn Cerniglia wrote:

> Speaking of sprouts, I bought a package of so-called " Crunchy Sprouts "

> the other day at Whole Foods....a blend of green pea, cow pea, red

> lentils and garbanzo beans sprouts.

>

> Now what do I do with them?!?!?

>

> Sharyn

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Eat 'em! :-) Make a sandwich out of them with some of that Ezekial

Bread I keep hearing so much about. Bread, sprouts, some tonic to spice

'em up a bit, maybe some hummus......or just eat 'em the way they are.

Yummy!!!

--

Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

[Guest guest]

Sharyn Cerniglia wrote:

> LOL! They just don't look very appetizing to eat by themselves....I

> was hoping I could use them to *make* some of that Ezekial bread or

> something....

>

> Sharyn

========================

Well I guess you could do that if you dehydrate them and grind them up.

Otherwise, toss em in a bowl, drizzle olive oil on 'em, add your own

spices, a pinch of sea salt, maybe a dash of ACV and have at 'em.

Scrumptious, no? :-\

--

Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

[Guest guest]

Sprouts

I made my first attempts last week to make sprouts without success. I tried

aduki beans and then buckwheat and absolutely nothing sprouted. I changed

the water as instructed in NT. Is there something I'm doing wrong? Are some

things easier to sprout than others?

Phil

====================

Phil,

I have been able to sprout mung beans with great success. For my sprouting,

I use mason jars that have screened lids on them.

I soak the mung beans overnight, sometimes even as long as 18 hours, in

purified (not tap) water. Then I rinse, facing the jars down so the excess

water can drain out.

A good trick is to add a bit of 3% strength food grade hydrogen peroxide (I

use a couple of " spritzes " ) to the soaking water. It helps the seeds sprout

faster.

Mung beans and any other seed swells with water when soaked, so you need to

leave enough room in the jar for them to aerate and expand.

Also, the water needs to be okay.

Finally, the seeds of course need to be free of mold, and whole, so they

sprout.

Best,

Nenah

[Guest guest]

[Phil] I made my first attempts last week to make sprouts without

success. I tried aduki beans and then buckwheat and absolutely nothing

sprouted. I changed the water as instructed in NT. Is there something

I'm doing wrong? Are some things easier to sprout than others?

[MikeP] Yes! Some are much easier to sprout than others. I've never

tried those two seeds, but there's about 15 seeds I've sprouted

regularly with great success, whereas there have been a few seeds that

have been very fussy (pumpkin, oats, arugula) and some that have

failed every time (especially dill, much to my disappointment).

Generally sprouts are very forgiving of bad technique and will do fine

if you let them soak too long (even as long as two days) or don't

rinse/drain for a whole day. That said, one of the critical parts is

*draining well* after you rinse. Spend a little extra time to drain

them well by shaking, etc. If they're too wet, they'll go bad easily,

especially in hot weather. Most of the seeds I sprout are legumes,

and they invariably are the easiest and most reliable, especially

larger ones like mung beans, lentils, peas, etc, so I'd expect the

adzuki beans to be a breeze. For the buckwheat, read up on the right

soaking time, because some seeds should only be soaked for like an

hour or so, not the typical 12+ hours.

By the way, speaking of sprouts, I've recently discovered a great new

sprout to add to my mix, perilla seeds! As I understand it, they're

also called " wild sesame " , " shiso " (the Japanese name), and

" beefsteak " . They sprout right away and taste good, without the

extremely bitter taste of sesame sprouts beyond two days or so. I

bought a big bag at a Korean shop and it wasn't expensive at all. I'm

also trying to grow some outside to get the leaf, which is a staple

item in Japanese and Korean cuisine and quite flavorful.

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

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[Guest guest]

Thanks. The seeds are old so that may be a problem.

Phil

Sprouts

I made my first attempts last week to make sprouts without success. I tried

aduki beans and then buckwheat and absolutely nothing sprouted. I changed the

water as instructed in NT. Is there something I'm doing wrong? Are some things

easier to sprout than others?

Phil

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I'll ry the peroxide with fresher seeds.

Phil

Sprouts

I made my first attempts last week to make sprouts without success. I tried

aduki beans and then buckwheat and absolutely nothing sprouted. I changed

the water as instructed in NT. Is there something I'm doing wrong? Are some

things easier to sprout than others?

Phil

====================

Phil,

I have been able to sprout mung beans with great success. For my sprouting,

I use mason jars that have screened lids on them.

I soak the mung beans overnight, sometimes even as long as 18 hours, in

purified (not tap) water. Then I rinse, facing the jars down so the excess

water can drain out.

A good trick is to add a bit of 3% strength food grade hydrogen peroxide (I

use a couple of " spritzes " ) to the soaking water. It helps the seeds sprout

faster.

Mung beans and any other seed swells with water when soaked, so you need to

leave enough room in the jar for them to aerate and expand.

Also, the water needs to be okay.

Finally, the seeds of course need to be free of mold, and whole, so they

sprout.

Best,

Nenah

[Guest guest]

.. I've actually been 95% raw for a few weeks now and I am amazed at how good I feel both mentally and physically. I am now on a sprout binge. I've grown alfalfa sprouts, radish sprouts, mung bean sprouts, wheat sprouts, redc clover sprouts and broccoli sprouts successfully. However my sunflower sprouts didn't work...they turned to mush. I went over to Rodale Farm today and got a bag of their organic sunflower sprouts and they are big and leafy and plump and out of this world! Maybe I'm using the wrong sunflower seeds? Mine are organic, shelled, raw and unsalted but they didn't sprout. Do I need a special kind of sunflower seeds? Anybody know?? (I didn't think to ask them when I was at the farm).

Gloria

[Guest guest]

When I sprout sunflower seeds, i let sit in water all nite, rinse, sit in water till I get home, drain, spread out and they sprout.... They're organic, no shells...

I soaked them in a jar of water overnight. The next day I drained them, put some cheesecloth over the jar and rinsed and drained them 2x a day, just like I do with all of my other sprouts. By Day 3 they looked soft and mushy with no "tails" growing. By Day 5 they smelled bad and I threw them out. You said you spread your's out? On a paper towel or something? I always grow my other sprouts in jars but maybe sunflower seeds are different??

Gloria

[Guest guest]

When I sprout sunflower seeds, i let sit in water all nite, rinse, sit in water till I get home, drain, spread out and they sprout.... They're organic, no shells...MorningGlory113@... wrote: . I've actually been 95% raw for a few weeks now and I am amazed at how good I feel both mentally and physically. I am now on a sprout binge. I've grown alfalfa sprouts, radish sprouts, mung bean sprouts, wheat sprouts, redc clover sprouts and broccoli sprouts successfully. However my sunflower sprouts didn't work...they turned to mush. I went over to Rodale Farm today and got a bag of their organic sunflower sprouts and they are big and leafy and plump and out of this world! Maybe I'm using the wrong sunflower seeds? Mine are organic, shelled, raw and

unsalted but they didn't sprout. Do I need a special kind of sunflower seeds? Anybody know?? (I didn't think to ask them when I was at the farm).

Suzi

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[Guest guest]

Seems like I've heard that sunflower and some other large seeded

sprouts are sprouted in dirt and then harvested. Don't remember where

I read that but it might be worth doing some spooking to find out.

[Guest guest]

Usually be day 2 or 3 they are sprouting.. I spread on parchment paper...

Are you sure your seeds weren't treated??

I use sprout jars or jars with cheesecloth

Nope, not treated. I got them where I get all my organic grains, seeds etc. The label says Raw Organic Sunflower Seeds. I'll try them again. Maybe I didn't get all the water out when I rinsed them and that's why they got soggy. I used to successfully sprout seeds in a stainless steel mesh colander. Maybe I'll try that with the sunflower seeds. I usually use Ball jars with cheesecloth these days. Thanks, Suzi !

Getting cold here. It was 70 this afternoon and it's going down into the 30's or 40's tonight. Amazing!!!

Gloria

Gloria

[Guest guest]

I have not sprouted sunflower seeds but I really thought that they had to be in the shell and sprouted in dirt to produce greens.

A few weeks ago I had a book from the library that said something about sprouting sunflower seeds but I can't remember what it was. That was right before I went on my sprouting spree so I didn't pay much attention. Something about them either having to be hulled or unhulled. And I can't remember what the book was.

Speaking of books, are there any raw recipe books out there that don't use tons and tons of nuts?? Every book I've looked at has all these recipes that call for a cup of walnuts or a cup of pine nuts or a cup of almond butter etc. That would cost a fortune not to mention the fat intake. I want some good tasting recipes that aren't loaded with oil and fat. Has anyone read The Sunfood Diet Success System by Wolfe? That looks like it might be good and I think he goes easy on the nuts.

Gloria

[Guest guest]

Usually be day 2 or 3 they are sprouting.. I spread on parchment paper... Are you sure your seeds weren't treated?? I use sprout jars or jars with cheesecloth. MorningGlory113@... wrote: I soaked them in a jar of water overnight. The next day I drained them, put some cheesecloth over the jar and rinsed and drained them 2x a day, just like I do with all of my other sprouts. By Day 3 they looked soft and mushy with no "tails" growing. By Day 5 they smelled bad and I threw them out. You said you spread your's out? On a paper towel or something? I always grow my other sprouts in jars but maybe sunflower

seeds are different??

Suzi

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[Guest guest]

Suzanne - please give us the directions for sprouting sunflowers in water. They may sprout but you won't get sunflower greens of any substance.

Shari