Re: OT: Chinese Herbs anyone... I don't think so...

[Guest guest]

I've noticed this thread and thought I would comment from another perspective as

I have lived and worked in parts of China most of my adult life.

In discussion with a local friend, she mentioned that placenta has become highly

prized as beneficial in Chinese medicine for people who are very weak and need

support. She thinks that because placenta is not very available, perhaps the

human baby parts of aborted fetuses might be used instead. However, this would

not be a widespread practice in all Chinese meds. It would be in specific

concoctions for specific purposes. Such as the many strange and wonderful (or

nasty) ingredients in potions with the claim to improve male sexual prowess.

It is very common to buy herbs here, and it is clearly bits and pieces of dried

plants which they will grind for you if you wish, or you can take home and boil

them up in an infusion. So I think that buying an individual herb is much less

likely to have this sort of ingredient.

The heavy metal toxicity contamination is however a very important factor to

consider. So I think as Lena has said and done, it is very wise to ask for the

certificates and be sure the company is reputable.

I once saw a post online by a person who lived in Beijing for a time. A

classmate from England was working on a research project, the group was testing

herbal medicines from the main pharmacies in BJ. All of the samples they tested

showed toxin contamination, she said. Sorry I don't have a link to that

research. So it is only anecdotal.

Sherry

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> Hi everyone,

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> This is the most disgusting thing I have ever read... If it was not written

> by the well known and respected

> Dr. Schulze, I probably would not have taken a second look at it... But

> today, an email of his current blog

> showed up in my inbox about Chinese herbs containing human baby parts...

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https://herbdocblog.com/article/Commentary/the-truth-about-chinese-herbal-medici\

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[Guest guest]

Jim, thanks, this is the sort of thing that should be in the news (assuming it

is true, which it sounds like it is). Also for reminding us of the dangers of

toxicity in imports from China. Which is going through a giant industrial

revolution with modern world chemicals and technology. On the other hand I have

had a very good expirience with my Chinese doctor. All his herbs and extracts

are clearly labeled and I trust his judgement. It is really great to have a

doctor that listens to you, asks the right questions, and fixes your problems.

He explained he is mostly interested in killing bacteria and supporting my

immune system. But I tell him I have low energy, angery, cold hands and feet

and he gives me stuff for that too, an it works. Accupuncture is an absolutely

incredible science as well, not just for joints and pain as I had thought.

lLast time I told him my sinuses were blocked (with a few grams of oak pollen no

doubt) and he threw a couple needles under my nose and sat there for half hour

feeling like a cat with two whiskers feeling my sinuses drain. I imagine they

stimulate the liver, kidneys etc as well.

I also object to that article's assertion that all illnesses can be cured by the

plants in our environment. That may well be true, but the question is of the

knowledge to do it. While chinese herbalism has been built on for thousands of

years and is now taught in universities the way we teach mds western medicine.

European herbalism has been through the purges of Christianity and modernism

(which despised and demeaned all 'savagery'). American indian, through

attempted genocide, forced Christianization, and then incorperation. I see

western medicine as a bunch of savages running around in the wilderness.

someone gave them lazer guns and they forgot everything else they knew. This is

of course all my very humble opinion.

All that being said, I wont be recommending 'Chinese herbalism' to people I dont

know again, unfortunately. And no, Im not against lazer guns.