ADHD

March 19, 1999

HI!

Yes, I have had his hearing tested. It was normal, except for his right ear

which was loaded with wax! The ear/nose/throat man cleaned his ear out and

he really hasn't had any more problems, to my knowledge.

I knew something was amiss because he was turning the TV up so loud and not

hearing us. He has not been doing that anymore. But, thanks for the

feedback, I will keep it in mind!!! Kerin

March 19, 1999

I don't have any info on the link between ADHD and vax, but here's a

link to info on ADHD and supplements:http://www.newideas.net

Best wishes

March 19, 1999

Dear Batwing......have you had your sons hearing tested??? It could be related

to a mild hearing loss. Worthwhile checking....make sure its a qualified

audiologist and NOT a doctor in a closet doing the testing.

Batwing30@... wrote:

> From: Batwing30@...

>

> HI

> My son is 7 and a half and is in first grade. Since he entered pre-school,

> I have had teachers saying that he showed many of the signs of ADD/ADHD.

> Easily distracted, trouble following directions, impulsive about certain

> things.

> Now that he is in Grade 1 he is having trouble retaining info. in class. He

> was evaluated last year in Kindergarten and the results showed that he had

> some of the characteristics of ADD.

> He is being tested again. I can't help but wonder if all of the shots he

> received before " I knew better " contributed to this.

> After his 2 and4 month DPT he screamed for hours. Like someone just said on

> the list, I wish that I could go back in time and change the way I openly and

> trustingly gave shots to him at such a young age.

> Does anyone have any info. about the connection between ADD/ADHD and the

> shots? Any advice on helpful supplements? He takes some but I need to learn

> more about this.

> If it's easier, email me off list.... Thanks very much.. Kerin

> Batwing30@...

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Hi Everyone,

Thanks for your advice and comments on my post about ADD/ADHD and my son.

If anyone finds anything else out, let me know!

I wanted to mention, a little off topic, that our Homeopath who I have had for

8 years and who was the first to get me to question vaccinations, is moving

in May to Colorado! I am crushed!

If anyone on the list is from Colorado and is looking for a very wonderful

Homeopath, e-mail me off list and maybe she will be in close enough proximity

for someone to benefit from her wealth of knowledge the my family has! I could

give you her name and number. Kerin, Batwing30@...

March 20, 1999

ADD/ADHD has been linked to vaccines. Basically the vaccines cause an

encephalitis that causes brain damage resulting in what is diagnosed as ADD.

It appears that there is a range of damage neurologically from vaccines in

many, many children ranging from mild irritability, severe irritability,

seizures, attention-deficit type disorders, hyperactivity, developmental

delays, autism or the most severe -- Death (SIDS and others).

By the way, many children have been greatly helped with this by seeing a

classical homeopath A book that addresses that treatment of children

homeopathically

is Ritalin-Free Kids byUllman & Ullman.

For more info:

DPT: A Shot in the Dark by Coulter & Barbara Loe Fisher addresses

this a little.

Vaccination, Social Violence & Criminality by Coulter is an excellent

book showing the range of damage

Hope this helps. I will try and dig up some more info for you!

List Owner

ADHD

From: Batwing30@...

HI

My son is 7 and a half and is in first grade. Since he entered

pre-school,

I have had teachers saying that he showed many of the signs of ADD/ADHD.

Easily distracted, trouble following directions, impulsive about certain

things.

Now that he is in Grade 1 he is having trouble retaining info. in class. He

was evaluated last year in Kindergarten and the results showed that he had

some of the characteristics of ADD.

He is being tested again. I can't help but wonder if all of the shots he

received before " I knew better " contributed to this.

After his 2 and4 month DPT he screamed for hours. Like someone just said on

the list, I wish that I could go back in time and change the way I openly

and

trustingly gave shots to him at such a young age.

Does anyone have any info. about the connection between ADD/ADHD and the

shots? Any advice on helpful supplements? He takes some but I need to

learn

more about this.

If it's easier, email me off list.... Thanks very much.. Kerin

Batwing30@...

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http://www.mercola.com/2000/may/21/ritalin_prozac_adhd.htm

Untested Ritalin/Prozac Combination Used by More Children

Ritalin and Prozac, as well as various combinations of similar stimulants and

antidepressants, are being prescribed together for an increasing number of

children. According to a new study, 30% of children taking Prozac or other

selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), are also taking Ritalin or

related drugs, presumably for ADD/ADHD. Additionally, 8% of children taking

Ritalin or similar drugs were also taking an SSRI. Most SSRIs are prescribed

for disorders such as depression, school phobias, bed wetting and eating

disorders.

These findings are in addition to the overall trends showing a steep increase

in the number of children taking either drug type from 1990 through 1998. As

of 1998, 10% of children aged 6 to 14 years were on Ritalin or stimulants and

2% were on SSRIs. Among children aged 1 to 5 years 1% were on Ritalin or

stimulants and 0.1% were on SSRIs..

Combined annual meeting of the Pediatric Academic Societies and the American

Academy of Pediatrics.

COMMENT:It is a sad tragedy that these children are placed not only on

Ritalin, but also on the antidepressants. Wellbutrin has been used for some

time and now they are using the whole variety of SSRIs. When you only have a

hammer, I guess everything looks like a nail. These medicines do seem to

provide some benefit, but in no way, shape, or form do they even being to

treat the foundational cause of this problem, which is related to an excess

of grains, sugars, underground vegetables, and any fluid other than water.

This is particularly distressing as the diet changes I recommend works so

well. There is not a week that goes by where I don't seem some child with

ADHD or autism have a near miraculous improvement from the diet changes. If

you are not yet convinced of the dangers of Ritalin I would strongly

recommend that you read Dr. Ann Block's book No More Ritalin. Dr. Block

is a personal friend and I believe the book is an excellent resource to

convince wavering parents.

May 23, 2000

I was able to get my Son off of Ritalin, by cutting out several things I found

him to have

allergic reactions that made him hyper: milk was the biggest culpret, also

sugar, Red 40( a

dye), MSG, anything with sodium nitrates, such as hot dogs, bologna, sausage

etc...but it was

also important to supplement him with Amino Acids, Omega-3 Oils such as

Barlean's Flax

Oil (cold pressed) and a powerful anti-oxidant such as pycnogenol which is able

to cross the

blood/brain barrier. This combination truly changed my Son's behavior

dramatically...I was

so thankful to be able to take him off of Ritalin! When asked how he felt after

the change, he

said he felt alot better because he didn't have a thousand things running

through his mind at

one time! I hope this helps...

Sincerely,

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>

Isn't it the Feingold Diet that is supposed to help people with ADHD?? For what

it's worth though,

I think any food can be a trigger, it just depends on the child. My son only

has nasty inlaws who

have mentioned ADHD to me (he's just 4-1/2). We suspected allergies as a big

problem and after a

lot of trial and error, we figured he can't tolerate rice and corn among some

other things. A

great book is " Is this Your Child? " by Dr. Doris Rapp. She does discuss the

Feingold diet, but

also helps you figure out if food is your child's problem. If that makes any

sense. Anyway, it's

definitely worth a read. My son, btw, is still a very active child, without the

out of control

behaviours he had before.

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Is this really caused by vaccinations too? I have heard so much on this

and most of it was on misdiagnosis. I even heard there was not such a

thing. I don't know but my nephew was diagnosed with it and I have to tell

you....there is no way! I watched him all his life and he was just a boy.

Not too hyper, easy to calm down, seemed to be quick to learn. I don't

know what was happening in school but it seemed like a farce to me. I

finally loaded his parents down with the information that was in ritalin

and what it was doing to him and they took him off of it and put him in a

private school. Since then, he is doing well. I bet if she homeschooled

there she would have never even thought of this. Unfortunately, all of

them have been vaccinated. Because of coarse my ideas are too out there

for my family. I have many friends with children (all boys) who are

vaccinated and on ritalin for ADHD. Is this a true disease and what

vaccinations cause this? Please send me any links or information. I am SO

interested and want to share the info.

Blessings Be

Margaret White

February 13, 2001

I just came across this the other day from a link posted somewhere

(was it here?)

http://www.resultsproject.net/

Haven't read through the whole thing yet.

My brother (now 18) was 'diagnosed' early in school, by like 3rd

grade or so... ADD not ADHD... he took Ritalin through most of school

and ended up in an " alternative " school for problem kids (acting up

too much, basically... This school had isolation rooms they'd put the

kids in, nothing but four concrete walls and a door.. I think my

brother was just doing stuff just to be doing it, not really having

a 'problem'...)

My sister (almost 12) was 'diagnosed' ADHD, I think a lot earlier

than my brother because my parents had already gone through so much

with him and saw 'signs' with her. I think she's on Ritalin but I'm

not sure. She had many many ear infections as a baby (she was also

babysat/daycared while my brother and I were not) and ended up with

tubes in her ears. Last time I talked to my mother she had an

appointment with my sister's teachers... she was misbehaving, not

taking her books to class, crawling on the floor and making animal

sounds... She seems very very immature, not sure if that's because

she's the " baby " and never has to do anything for anyone even

herself, or what the problem is. My husband has a sister one month

younger and these two girls are WORLDS apart.

I have no idea where this " ADD/ADHD " stuff comes from, or whether my

brother and sister actually have it. My brother also had other

medications, for depression and stuff I guess. I was never medicated

like them, in fact I graduated from a regular high school with

an " honors " diploma (and never ever did any homework... lol..). One

thing that I kind of wonder about... I had to get an MMR shot to go

to college.. Before that, my mother would say I was " disgustingly

healthy " ... very rarely got sick (I had strep throat and pneumonia

the same year in elementary school, I think real close to each

other... and of course the occasional cold... not sure what else.. I

also caught the mumps as a baby..) After that shot it seemed like I

got the flu every year at least once. Haven't had the flu for a full

year now (about to turn 25) but I'm also pregnant and wonder if that

has anything to do with it. My son has been partially vaccinated (up

to 12mo, he's over 2 now..) and he's had 2 colds and 1 flu. New baby

will not be vaccinated.

Probably went off on a tangent there, hope that link is helpful.. I

thought the " positives of ADD " link was interesting, that was the

page I read first.

-Merry

>

> Is this really caused by vaccinations too? I have heard so much on

this

> and most of it was on misdiagnosis. I even heard there was not

such a

> thing. I don't know but my nephew was diagnosed with it and I have

to tell

> you....there is no way! I watched him all his life and he was just

a boy.

> Not too hyper, easy to calm down, seemed to be quick to learn. I

don't

> know what was happening in school but it seemed like a farce to

me. I

> finally loaded his parents down with the information that was in

ritalin

> and what it was doing to him and they took him off of it and put

him in a

> private school. Since then, he is doing well. I bet if she

homeschooled

> there she would have never even thought of this. Unfortunately,

all of

> them have been vaccinated. Because of coarse my ideas are too out

there

> for my family. I have many friends with children (all boys) who are

> vaccinated and on ritalin for ADHD. Is this a true disease and what

> vaccinations cause this? Please send me any links or information.

I am SO

> interested and want to share the info.

>

> Blessings Be

> Margaret White

February 13, 2001

At 09:43 AM 02/13/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>

>Is this really caused by vaccinations too? I have heard so much on this

>and most of it was on misdiagnosis. I even heard there was not such a

>thing. I don't know but my nephew was diagnosed with it and I have to tell

>you....there is no way! I watched him all his life and he was just a boy.

>Not too hyper, easy to calm down, seemed to be quick to learn. I don't

>know what was happening in school but it seemed like a farce to me. I

>finally loaded his parents down with the information that was in ritalin

>and what it was doing to him and they took him off of it and put him in a

>private school. Since then, he is doing well. I bet if she homeschooled

>there she would have never even thought of this. Unfortunately, all of

>them have been vaccinated. Because of coarse my ideas are too out there

>for my family. I have many friends with children (all boys) who are

>vaccinated and on ritalin for ADHD. Is this a true disease and what

>vaccinations cause this? Please send me any links or information. I am SO

>interested and want to share the info.

>

>Blessings Be

> Margaret White

Here's how I see it Margaret.

The reactions to a vaccine can have a whole range from the vaccine-induced

encephalitis - the varying degrees of the encephalitis

range from:

1. irritability/crying

2. intractable crying

3. seizures

4. hyperactivity

5. ADD/ADHD

6. autism

7. death (SIDS & other)

And anything else in between - its because of the

inflammation of their little brains.

http://www.trufax.org/vaccine/

The Mechanism of Encephalitic Damage from Vaccines One

of the keys to understanding what is happening is to

understand that the myelin sheath, the fatty protective

coating around the nerves, spreads through the nervous

system in developmental stages. The myelin sheath, in

some nerves, does not even begin to grow until the child

is at least eight months old. In fact, the growth of the

insulating sheath proceeds at different rates in

different areas in the nervous system for the first 15

years of life. In some areas, growth of myelin continues

until the mid 40’s. What does this mean? When cultural

vaccination programs initiate neurotoxic processes in

early childhood, it severely affects the development of

the nervous system by impacting growth of the nervous

system. This immortal fact is being deliberately

ignored, and maintenance of ignorance on the part of the

population is the only reason they are getting away with

this.

Myelination processes begin in the phylogenetically

older parts of the brain, such as the brain stem, and

then moves to the areas of the nervous system that have

developed recently in humans. Obviously, the cerebral

hemispheres and the cerebral cortex are the last to be

protected. The sheath is necessary for the development

of the nerves, so when the cultural vaccination programs

inject harmful toxins into a newborn infant or children,

the myelination process is interrupted to one degree or

another and MBD (minimum brain damage) occurs. In 1947,

Isaac Karlin suggested that stuttering was caused by

“delay in the myelinization of the cortical areas in the

brain concerned with speech.” In 1988, research by

Dietrich and others using MRI imaging of the brains of

infants and children from four days old to 36 months of

age have found that those who were developmentally

delayed had immature patterns of myelination.

It has also been found that impairment of these

processes can alter neural communication without

necessarily causing severe CNS damage. So, these facts

have been satisfactorily proven by science, but ignored

and suppressed by mainstream medical establishment.

Babies and children pay the price, and society pays the

price when these individuals grow up and begin to

exhibit aberrant behavior, affecting social structure,

increasing crime and necessitating more authoritarian

social control mechanisms. We can see that the

assocition between post-encephalitic syndrome and either

demyelination or incomplete myelination of the brain is

pretty straight forward. In might be mentioned at this

point that polio, or poliomyelitis, involves a breakdown

of the myelin shealth, which causes paralysis. We also

know that encephalitis, whether caused through disease

or as a result of vaccination, can cause demyelination

of the nerves, and that this has been known since the

1920’s. SInce the developmental neurobiology of the

human brain has not changed, but the AMA statement has,

we can only conclude that they are deliberately and

knowingly perpetrating brain damage on the population.

If so, why? For the answer to that, consult more of the

menu choices on the main vaccine page.

The exact role of the allergic reaction in encephalitis

was not completely understood until about 1935, with the

discovery by Rivers of the phenomenon known as

“experimental allergic encephalomyelitis,” or (EAE). Up

until 1935, it was assumed that encephalitis was caused

by some viral or bacterial infection of the nervous

system, and a search began in the 1920’s for some

organism that might cause the problem. Rivers was able

to produce brain inflammation in laboratory monkeys by

injecting them repeatedly with extracts of sterile

normal rabbit brain and spinal cord material, and this

made it quite apparent that encephalitis was an allergic

reaction. This explains the association of allergies and

autoimmune states with prior cases of encephalitis.

In 1922, the smallpox vaccination program caused an

outbreak of encephalitis, with a secondary result of

Guillain-Barre Syndrome, an ascending paralysis ending

in death. For some reason, the fact that the

vaccinations were directly connected was hidden from the

public until 1942. In 1953 it was realized that some of

the epidemic children’s seases, > measles in particular,

were demonstrating an increased propensity to attack the

central nervous system. This indicated a growing

allergic reaction in the population to both the diseases

and the vaccinations for the diseases. In 1978, British

researcher Bannister observed that the

demyelinating diseases were getting more serious

“because of some abnormal process of sensitization of

the nervous system.” I submit that the process of

increased sensitivity was a normal occurance - it could

only be seen as abnormal if the connection between the

vaccines and the sensitization process, which by then

should have been obvious with the research conducted,

was deliberately ignored. The fact of the matter is that

it is a matter of record that it was known that

vaccinations produced encephalitis since 1926. The

sensitization of the population was being enhanced by

vaccination programs. Someone had to know, since the

connection was a matter of record.

*******************

My response...

The encephalitis we are talking about here is NOT an

infection from a virus or bacteria, but INFLAMMATION of

the BRAIN due to allergic reaction - that is what

encephalitis means.

Measles, the disease, can induce encephalitis. MMR the

vaccine can induce encephalitis. What is the

risk/benefit ratio here? Are we causing more

encephalitis with the vaccine than we are at risk for

with the disease.

With the disease they estimate 1:1000 will develop

encephalitis. If children are having encephalitis from

the vaccine at a greater rate than 1 per 1000 then there

we are not doing ourselves any favors.

Excerpts from two articles regarding MMR/Encephalitis:

The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA)

March 26, 1973

Vol. 223 , No. 13 , pages 1459-1462

Neurological Disorders Following Live Measles-Virus

Vaccination

Philip J. Landigan, MD, J. Witte, MD

From 1963 through 1971, eighty-four cases of

nuerological disorders with onset less than 30 days

after live measles-virus vaccination were

reported in the United States. Thirteen could be

adquately accounted for by causes other than vaccine,

and another 11 were uncomplicated febrile convulsions

probably related to vaccination. One case

met diagnostic criteria for subacute sclerosing

panencephalitis. The remaining

59 showed clinical features of encephalitis or

encephalopathy.

Causes of these cases could not be established, but 45

(76%) had onset between 6 and 15 days after vaccination;

this clustering suggests that some may have been

caused by vaccine. From 1963 through 1971, 50.9

million doses of measles vaccine were distributed , and

, therefore, incidence of the reported neurological

disorders was 1.16 per million doses.

Risk of encephalitis following measles infection is one

per thousand cases.

The Lancet, September 17, 1983, pages 683-684,

lin White

Measles Vaccine Associated Encephalitis in Canada

Sir-Dr Berlin (June 18, p 1380) notes that the true

frequency of convulsions after measles vaccine has not

been yet determined, and asks for studies of the

temporal association between vaccination and

convulsions to offset a possible negative impact on

this aspect of childhood immunisation programmes. The

underlying concern appears to be that convulsions may

indicate encephalitis, which could result in brain

damage.

***************

Pediatrics 1998 Mar;101(3 Pt 1):383-387

Acute encephalopathy followed by permanent brain injury

or death associated with further attenuated measles

vaccines: a review of claims submitted to the National

Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

Weibel RE, Caserta V, Benor DE, G

Division of Vaccine Injury Compensation, National

Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, Health Resources

and Services Administration, Public Health Service,

Rockville, land 20857, USA.

OBJECTIVE: To determine if there is evidence for a

causal relationship between acute encephalopathy

followed by permanent brain injury or death associated

with the administration of further attenuated measles

vaccines (Attenuvax or Lirugen, Hoechst n Roussel,

Kansas City, MO), mumps vaccine (Mumpsvax, Merck and Co,

Inc, West Point, PA), or rubella vaccines (Meruvax or

Meruvax II, Merck and Co, Inc, West Point, PA), combined

measles and rubella vaccine (M-R-Vax or M-R-Vax II,

Merck and Co, Inc, West Point, PA), or combined measles,

mumps, and rubella vaccine (M-M-R or M-M-R II, Merck and

Co, Inc, West Point, PA), the lead author reviewed

claims submitted to the National Vaccine Injury

Compensation Program.

METHODS: The medical records of children who met the

inclusion criteria of receiving the first dose of these

vaccines between 1970 and 1993 and who developed such an

encephalopathy with no determined cause within 15 days

were identified and analyzed.

RESULTS: A total of 48 children, ages 10 to 49 months,

met the inclusion criteria after receiving measles

vaccine, alone or in combination. Eight children died,

and the remainder had mental regression and retardation,

chronic seizures, motor and sensory deficits, and

movement disorders. The onset of neurologic signs or

symptoms occurred with a nonrandom, statistically

significant distribution of cases on days 8 and 9. No

cases were identified after the administration of

monovalent mumps or rubella vaccine.

CONCLUSIONS: This clustering suggests that a causal

relationship between measles vaccine and encephalopathy

may exist as a rare complication of measles

immunization.

MMR & Encephalitis

Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) Vaccine as a Potential Cause

of Encephalitis (Brain Inflammation) in Children

MARCH 9, 1998 ISSUE #39B by Harold E. Buttram, MD

Townsend Letters Dec. 1997 Childhood autism is the

result of encephalitis affecting primarily the limbic

system of the brain, located below the cerebral cortex.

A relatively few number of cases are due to genetic

causes, but officially the great majority are of unknown

causes.

Bernard Rimland, PhD, founding director of the Autism

Research Institute, estimates that there are now a

minimum of 250,000 autistic children in America, a 10 to

15-fold increase in the past 50 or so years. Dr.

Rimland, internationally recognized as a leading expert

in the field of autism, has publically stated that he

believes current childhood vaccine programs are one of

the major causes for the current epidemic of autism.1

The US Committee on Children, Youth, and Families has

estimated there are now 7.5 million American children

with developmental delay compared with 4.8 million in

1991. Of these, 30% are thought to be autistic or have

autistic tendencies .2 It is true that statistics are

subject to question, but the real scope of the problem

can be gained by talking with veteran elementary school

teachers, and I have talked with many of them. Without

exception in my experience, they emphatically confirm

that there has been a dramatic and widespread increase

among school children in learning and behavioral

disorders attention deficit and hyperactivity, and

children requiring special education. These changes

appear most notable since the 1970’s. Dawbarns Law Firm

of England has published a paper in which they report on

over 600 instances of side effects following the MMR and

MR vaccines, which were introduced in England in 1988.3

These include 202 cases of autism, 97 of epilepsy, 40

with hearing and vision problems, and 41 with 100

behavioral and learning problems, the latter in older

children. Although British health officials deny a

relationship of these conditions with the vaccines,

Dawbarns has accounts of over 200 parents who believe

that their children were normal before they were

vaccinated, and who can point to nothing (other than the

vaccine) which could account for the deterioration in

their children’s conditions.

The Physician’s Desk Reference, in its section on the

MMR vaccine, states that complications from MMR, such as

encephalitis and optic neuritis, occur “very rarely.”

This is the conventional view, sincerely held by a

majority of doctors, but where does the truth lie? Could

it be that adverse consequences to MMR vaccine are

occurring on a larger scale than officially recognized?

Hypothetical model for MMR vaccine as a cause of

encephalitis Nerve cells of the brain function by

conducting nerve impulses, Much like electrical wiring,

these cells require insulation to function normally.

This insulation is provided by myelin sheaths, made up

largely of fatty material. For the most part myelination

of nerve cells of the brain does not commence until

after birth. Most is laid down during the first 5 years

of normal development. It is now generally thought that

the process of encephalitis, whether from wild viruses

of live-virus vaccines, is associated with an

interference with the myelination process brought about

by the development of antibodies against myelin basic

protein, a constituent of the myelin sheaths .4

In theory there are several mechanisms whereby the MMR

vaccine could have increased potency to induce harmful

autoantibodies (antibodies which attack the body’s own

tissues and organs, including the myelin sheathes), once

injected into the human system. First and perhaps

foremost, MMR is incubated in chick embryo culture

medium, which necessarily includes precursors of all the

organ systems of the chick, including myelin basic

protein. Merck Pharmaceuticals, which produces MMR

vaccine, claims that all traces of the chick embryo are

removed before the vaccine is released for use. This may

be true, but it is probably irrelevant as it does not

take into account the process of mobile genetic

elements, more commonly referred to as “jumping genes.”

Viruses being made up entirely of genetic material, they

are highly susceptible to this process. It has been

shown that viruses are genetically changed by accepting

genetic material from cell cultures.

The genetic imprint of the chick myelin basic protein,

which is foreign to the human system because of its

chick origin, may be programmed to induce antibodies

against human myelin basic protein, once injected into

the human system. This in turn, potentially resulting in

encephalitis. The second theoretical reason is that the

MMR vaccine is injected by needle directly into the

system. This differs, from the natural infections which

are “cushioned” or buffered by the mucosal immune system

(Secretary IgA) of the respiratory tract. By passing

this mucosal immune system, the injection may carry

greater potency for harmful autoantibody formation.

Third, measles virus carries protein similar to those

found in myelin sheaths 6 so that antibodies induced by

the measles vaccine may cross-react harmfully with

myelin.

Carrying this line of thought further, in 1993 Vijendra

Singh, PhD University of Illinois, published a study in

which they found antibodies to myelin basic protein in

50 to 60% of autistic children tested.4 Recently at a

public meeting Dr. Singh presented information on an

unpublished, preliminary study of 27 autistic children

in which he found nearly 50% correlation between MMR

antibodies and antibodies to myelin basic protein in

serum drawn from the children.7 Dr. Singh emphasized

that this study was very preliminary and that no

conclusions could be drawn from it. However, it does

raise a higher index of suspicion that the MMR vaccine

may result in encephalitis and its various complications

on a fairly large scale. Once again, this leads us to

question whether or not many vaccine reactions are

passing unrecognized and therefore unreported by the US

medical community.

Reasons for under-reporting of adverse vaccine reactions

in the USA As reported in the Journal of the American

Medical Association in 1990, there is a general malaise

among American physicians in reporting adverse drug (and

vaccine) reactions;.8 ,9 Based on this report, the

present voluntary reporting system appears to have

resulted in very low levels of adverse reaction reports.

The original screening studies for measles, mumps, and

rubella vaccine were limited to short periods of time

such as 6 weeks observation for adverse affects. This

limited time did not take into account the possibility

of delayed reactions, which may outnumber those

occurring within the 6 or so week period. In the case of

cancer, we know there may be periods of years between

the original body insult and onset of cancer. In the

case of the vaccines, it is possible that slow and

subclinical process of encephalitis may be initiated

which may not manifest until much later an therefore

remain unrecognized as having been caused by the MMR

vaccine.

It is possible that MMR vaccine reactions are now

occurring on a much larger scale than they did in the

original screening studies, because many children today

are second generation vaccinees; that is, they are born

mothers previously vaccinated with MMR. The mothers

having been vaccinated with genetically contaminated

MMR, as previous described, the children may have

heightened susceptibility to adverse reactions when

rechallenged with the vaccine.10 Further confirmation

of this concept is found in a recent report from Japan

where it was demonstrated that live virus from measles

vaccine do persist in mononuclear cells of the body in

children with autoimmune hepatitis.16 Doctors, having

been conditioned by the rarity of adverse reactions in

the original screening studies, are generally inclined

to dismiss these reactions as due to other causes.

The decline of childhood diseases before vaccination

There is a generally held concept that mass vaccine

programs were largely responsible for control of former

epidemic diseases, but with the probable exception of

the polio vaccine, in most instances this was not the

case. From 1911 to 1935 the 4 leading causes of death

among those aged 1 to 14 years, covered by Metropolitan

Life Insurance policies, were diphtheria, measles,

scarlet fever and whooping cough.11

However, by 1945 the combined rates from these 4

diseases had declined by 95%, before mass vaccine

program began in the United States .12 By far the

greatest factors in the decline were better housing with

less crowded conditions, better nutrition, and other

public health, hygienic, and medical measures.

Discussion The conventional view is that adverse vaccine

reactions are relatively uncommon. At variance with

this are internationally recognized authorities such as

Dr. Bernard Rimland. Also at variance are many parents

whose children have developed medical complications

following vaccines where no other cause was evident.

Time may prove that one of the basic flaws in American

childhood vaccine programs is that it is increasingly

compulsory and mandatory. Once considered the

fountainhead of freedom, in the enforcement of vaccine

programs, America has become one of the most stringent

and arbitrary of all nations. Parents refusing to have

their children vaccinated, often for religious reasons,

are subject to charges of child abuse.

Public health officials contend that such compulsory

measures are necessary for control of infectious

diseases which, they maintain, would increase along with

childhood death rates if the vaccine mandates were

lifted. In my opinion, this argument does not bear up to

scrutiny for the following reasons:

In 1979 Sweden banned the pertussis (whooping cough)

vaccine, considering it both ineffective and dangerous.

In spite of the banning, or perhaps because of it,

Sweden maintains one of the lowest infant mortality

rates in the world. In 1975 Japan raised the age of

pertussis vaccine to 2 years of age, considering it

dangerous in infancy. Since that time, sudden infant

death syndrome (cot deaths) have largely disappeared in

Japan.13

Other nations with either voluntary vaccine programs,

such as England, or less stringently enforced programs

have lower infant mortality rates than the US. With few

exceptions, they have not had a return of deadly

epidemics (with high mortality). One researcher has

estimated that, in the case of autism, it may take 15

years to reach the standards of scientific proof that

MMR vaccine is causing autism in a large portion of

children with the condition. Can we afford to wait 15

years?

For sake of argument, let us assume that scientific

proof is eventually gained that MMR is causatively

related to a significant portion of children with autism

and developmental delay. If we continue to enforce

vaccine programs as at present, one shudders to think

what the future generations will think and write about

us. Mistakes might be forgiven, but not the enforcement

of these mistakes. If such does prove to be the case, we

can rest assured that they will be neither kind nor

charitable in their judgments of us.

Conclusion As previously mentioned, time may prove that

vaccine programs went awry when they deviated from the

most basic of traditional medical ethics: the right of a

patient to choose or reject medical therapy, or the

right of parents to accept or reject medical procedures

such as vaccines for their children. The right of free

choice provides a system for checks and balances now

lacking. As a result, present vaccine programs are going

to extremes and are possibly causing more disease than

they are preventing. The remedy? Parents should be

allowed the right of free choice to accept or reject

vaccines for their children.

Addendum Of related interest to the subject of MMR

vaccine as a potential cause of encephalitis is the

report of Dr. Sudhir Gupta and coworkers in which they

found marked abnormalities of the immune systems of

autistic children.10 Could the MMR vaccine have been a

contributing factor for these abnormalities? In 1991

there was a report of significantly higher child

mortality following high-tittered measles vaccines

compared with standard measles vaccines among children

in Senegal.14 Subsequently a study was undertaken to

assess immune responses to the high tittered vaccines.15

The results showed suppression in lymphoproliferation;

that is, suppression in lymphocyte production

(lymphocytes are a class of white blood cells which play

a major role in governing the immune system).

In the above study report it was stated, “the effect of

measles immunization on immune responses in infants has

not been systematically studied.” The study was valuable

but it tested only two strains of high red measles

vaccines, not the standard vaccine. As a result we do

know that the high-tittered vaccine does cause immune

disturbances, but we do not know the effects of the

standard measles vaccine, studies not having been done.

If such studies are not already in progress, let us hope

that they soon will be.

Correspondence: Harold E. Buttram, MD 5724 Clymer Road

Quakertown, Pennsylvania 18951 USA 215-536-1890

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given at a conference on autism, sponsored by the Autism

Research Institute in Chicago, June, 1996.

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and neuritis, Science, Vol. 29, 282-284, July 19, 1985,

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School, Cedar Knolls, NJ.

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reporting project, JAMA, Vol. 263, No. 13, 1785-1788,

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(Editorial), ibid, page 1823.

10. Gupta S et al., Dysregulated immune system in

children with autism; beneficial effects of intravenous

globulin on autistic characteristics, J ofAutism and

Develop Disorders, Vol. 26, No. 4, 439-452, 1996. (In

this article on page 450, it is stated, “We theorized

that the high titers of rubella antibody ... present in

mothers of children with autism would be

transplacentally transferred and may persist for a

prolonged period in the child. When such a child gets

MMR immunization, rubella antigen may complex with

preexisting antibodies and such complexes might play a

role in pathogenesis of autistic features.”)

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Progress, New York: Metropolitan Life Insurance Company,

1937, page 48.

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Metropolitan Life Insurance Company, 1948, page 12.

13. Vaccination. 100 Years of Orthodox Research Shows

that Vaccines Represent a Medical Assault on the Immune

System, Viera Scheibner, PhD., 1993 (from pages 33 to 49

the author extensively reviews the Swedish and Japanese

experiences with the pertussis vaccine, book available

from New Atlantean Press, P.O. Box 9638-925, Santa Fe,

New Mexico 87504).

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measles vaccines; a prospective study in Senegal,

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Sheri,

Thanks for the info. I am going to pass it on. This is so sad. So eager

to push so called " cures " to problems through that the full range of what

it is really doing is overlooked.

Margaret White

March 26, 2002

When did the warnings about alcohol in pregnancy start coming out - what

about the children born before then - when the mothers had a glass of wine or

so every few days............ I bet there wasn't as many cases of ADHD as

there are now!

Chelly

San Diego, CA

Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots!

March 26, 2002

sue,

yeah, interesting...isn't it, they don't link adhd with vaccines. just as

one example, our son was diagnosed as being adhd, and i NEVER drank any

alcohol, smoked (never have), nothing. i ate a very healthy diet, did all

the right things. i know and have spoken with quite a few moms with

so-called adhd kids and none of them, to my knowledge, were irresponsible

(drinking alcohol, smoking) during their pregnancies, either. sometimes, i

think it's best not to read this stuff, it makes me too crazy....

kim

ADHD

> But what about *vaccines*?

>

> Sue

>

March 27, 2002

Not that I am recommending drinking and smoking during pregnancy, but

when my mother was pregnant, they actually told her not to stop smoking

because it helped her keep her weight down (!) and that it would be too

stressful for her. My siblings and I were all of low birth weight, but

I too do not remember ANYONE with behavior problems in class. (I was

born in 1950.)

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ADHD

Well, I told my kids that if they have problems it's because I drank

and smoked while pregnant.

I can tell you that the majority of women drank and smoked while

pregnant. After the babies were born they also didn't get the amount

of vaccines that they are given today. I can't remember any kids in

my children's classes that had ADHD problems.

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March 27, 2002

I think " ADHD " is just another name for poor parenting in many cases. Perfect

example, a " friend " just left here with her 3 year old son. First of all he

didn't want to get out of their vehicle to come in, so she bribed him with a

" chip " to get him to come in. Then when they were in he kept hitting her and

she again bribed him with a " chip " to get him to stop. Earlier she had left a

message on my answering machine saying they were sitting in their van in their

driveway because her son " wouldn't let " her go in the house until he was

finished watching a video on their tv in the van. I wouldn't be surprised if

this kid gets labeled with ADHD when he gets to school because he's never been

made to do anything against his wishes without getting a bribe first! Ahhh!

Makes me want to scream! Where did these new parenting techniques come from???

My husband is a special ed. teacher at a high school. His students are the

" behavior disorder " kids. There are a zillion of them!! What is wrong with

this picture????

Kay

I too do not remember ANYONE with behavior problems in class. (I was

born in 1950.)

Sandy from Alaska

March 27, 2002

This person needs info on Asperger's and other ASDs. But then

again...........

i

Re: ADHD

> I think " ADHD " is just another name for poor parenting in many cases.

Perfect example, a " friend " just left here with her 3 year old son. First

of all he didn't want to get out of their vehicle to come in, so she bribed

him with a " chip " to get him to come in. Then when they were in he kept

hitting her and she again bribed him with a " chip " to get him to stop.

Earlier she had left a message on my answering machine saying they were

sitting in their van in their driveway because her son " wouldn't let " her go

in the house until he was finished watching a video on their tv in the van.

I wouldn't be surprised if this kid gets labeled with ADHD when he gets to

school because he's never been made to do anything against his wishes

without getting a bribe first! Ahhh! Makes me want to scream! Where did

these new parenting techniques come from???

>

> My husband is a special ed. teacher at a high school. His students are

the " behavior disorder " kids. There are a zillion of them!! What is wrong

with this picture????

>

> Kay

>

> I too do not remember ANYONE with behavior problems in class. (I was

> born in 1950.)

>

> Sandy from Alaska

>

March 27, 2002

I would say what is wrong is vaccine damage in some cases.

We see these types of things and they are CURED with homeopathy. Yes there

is bad parenting. But there are also children who you can't do a thing

with - we are seeing mroe and more of them. For example Lycopodium is a

remedy useful in symptom pictures that include children that are bullies to

those younger, hit parents, stubborn and control the whole family.

I would say look to damage - not necessarily permanent, but a disorder of

the vital force (what we call the energy system in homeopathy. Until

you've been around a kid such as this, you have no idea what the parents go

through and you are seeing the end result which is the bribe as nothing

else works.

Not always true, but these kids have a deep disturbance an dhomeopathic

treatment can help

See Ritalin Free Kids book for stories of many ofthem

Sheir

At 02:24 PM 03/27/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>I think " ADHD " is just another name for poor parenting in many cases.

Perfect example, a " friend " just left here with her 3 year old son. First

of all he didn't want to get out of their vehicle to come in, so she bribed

him with a " chip " to get him to come in. Then when they were in he kept

hitting her and she again bribed him with a " chip " to get him to stop.

Earlier she had left a message on my answering machine saying they were

sitting in their van in their driveway because her son " wouldn't let " her

go in the house until he was finished watching a video on their tv in the

van. I wouldn't be surprised if this kid gets labeled with ADHD when he

gets to school because he's never been made to do anything against his

wishes without getting a bribe first! Ahhh! Makes me want to scream!

Where did these new parenting techniques come from???

>

>My husband is a special ed. teacher at a high school. His students are

the " behavior disorder " kids. There are a zillion of them!! What is wrong

with this picture????

>

>Kay

>

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Yes, I'm sure the vaccines are an added ingredient, but this particular child I

mentioned, he behaves for others (his father for example). And it's not even so

much that he's misbehaving or throwing tantrums or anything, he just knows he

can make his mom jump through hoops, and so he does. Even a 3 year old can

figure out that if he does what he wants long enough, even if mom disagrees, he

may get a treat out of it in the end!

I think these days too many parents want their children to be their " buddies "

and are afraid to upset them (I've heard them say as much). Instead of dealing

with normal childish testing and boundary pushing, some parents don't want to do

anything to upset the child.

Another example, my husband's niece's son has been on ritalin since he was 2.

He has had 4 different fathers in his 6 years of life, the most recent one beat

his mother. He has seen alot in his lifetime. His mother claims he is very bad

(and tells him so). The boy spent alot of time with my mother in law (who said

she never had any trouble with him). So, my point is, there are many parents

out there who don't want to take the time to do proper discipline and would

rather medicate their child and label them a problem child.

I know there are legitimate cases of ADHD and behavior problems, caused in big

part by vaccines and the junk diet of today's children. I'm in no way

minimizing the needs of those children and the great frustration they cause

their families.

: )

Kay

I would say what is wrong is vaccine damage in some cases.

We see these types of things and they are CURED with homeopathy. Yes there

is bad parenting. But there are also children who you can't do a thing

with - we are seeing mroe and more of them. For example Lycopodium is a

remedy useful in symptom pictures that include children that are bullies to

those younger, hit parents, stubborn and control the whole family.

Until you've been around a kid such as this, you have no idea what the parents

go

through and you are seeing the end result which is the bribe as nothing

else works.

Sheir

March 27, 2002

Thanks so much for this response Sheri. You would have to live with a

child like this 24/7, to know this child has a problem. I agree there

are some bad parents out there, but I really think that percentage is

not as high as some think.

> I would say what is wrong is vaccine damage in some cases.

> We see these types of things and they are CURED with homeopathy.

Yes there

> is bad parenting. But there are also children who you can't do a

thing

> with - we are seeing mroe and more of them. For example Lycopodium

is a

> remedy useful in symptom pictures that include children that are

bullies to

> those younger, hit parents, stubborn and control the whole family.

>

> I would say look to damage - not necessarily permanent, but a

disorder of

> the vital force (what we call the energy system in homeopathy.

Until

> you've been around a kid such as this, you have no idea what the

parents go

> through and you are seeing the end result which is the bribe as

nothing

> else works.

>

> Not always true, but these kids have a deep disturbance an

dhomeopathic

> treatment can help

> See Ritalin Free Kids book for stories of many ofthem

> Sheir

>

March 27, 2002

just had to put my .02 worth in here re: adhd. i've done a lot of research

on this topic, as our son was in the past diagnosed as adhd by a

psychiatrist, and deemed perfectly normal by a psychologist, both of whom

were highly recommended as experts in adhd.

there are also those professionals who don't even believe adhd exists. i've

gone both ways on this one. i've now come full circle and feel that there's

SOMETHING wrong with these kids, and given that most of these kids fit

certain diagnostic criteria, i'd say it's vaccine damage, imho.

so called adhd seems to run in my family. my sister's older boy was

diagnosed with it, and now i'm hearing that they're seeing signs in their

youngest daughter, who is six years old. i have a cousin who is close to my

age (42) who was diagnosed with it years ago. i also have a first cousin

who has one son, our son's age (8) who school officials thought could

possibly be adhd.

do i think that WE'RE all BAD parents? of course not! that's absurd.

folks, it's NOT bad parenting! you've got psychologists that think it's bad

parenting, bad teachers, etc. i don't have all the answers, but i can tell

you that jeff and i feel we've been good parents, and i know my cousin is a

fantastic dad and his wife's a marvelous mother.

i really feel because of all the differing opinions regarding adhd issues,

that the reason behind these troubled kids isn't getting the attention it

deserves. i do not for one minute feel putting schedule II drugs down kids'

throats is the answer. i'm totally against using ritalin or any other drug

for kids that have these issues. on the other hand, we've seen that putting

our son into a private montessori school has done wonders for him. he was

failing miserably in the first grade in our public school system, and is now

getting very good marks. he's never been a behavior problem, as even his

public school teachers were quick to point out. i truly recoiled putting

him on ritalin when he was in public school, but i retreated under extreme

pressure from the school principal and his teacher. to my horror, the third

day ryan was on the stuff, he had a complete manic episode. i'd known in my

heart ritalin was not the answer for him as i'd kept the stuff in my

cupboard for three weeks before i'd give it to him. just to show you what a

quack the psychiatrist was that " diagnosed " ryan; this same quack diagnosed

moi as being adhd!!! now, i'm 42 years old and he wanted to put ME on

ritalin, get this...for the rest of my life!!!!! (oh, let's not EVEN go

there....) let's just say that i'm a former professional, now stay at home

mom, and this physician/quack doesn't even know i was duping him to see what

sort of " diagnosis " he'd give me. he failed, miserably.

there's a bill in california that is now dead, but two different bills are

trying to " resurrect " this issue regarding meds for kids. i'd like to be

able to testify before our state legislature about our experience with our

school system and this physician, and i'm in the process of finding out how

to go about doing that. i'd have to go down to sacramento to testify, but

that's fine with me. i'd like to see this physician (dr. michal levin of

san ramon) run out of town, but i doubt that will happen.

i firmly believe that the issue of adhd is rooted in vaccine damage, period.

in fact, i know in my heart it is. unfortunately because of the politics

and the money trails, what these poor kids NEED is NOT what they're getting,

because their issues are embroiled in the whole vaccine issues saga.

i really do get upset when i hear people blame adhd kids on the parents.

it's so wrong. but what you don't understand is, these kids are so much

MORE than your average kid in every respect...it's so hard to explain...but

you do find yourself giving in to them because you just can't take any more.

our son wasn't even as difficult as some; but he had extreme meltdowns and

temper tantrums that would literally go on for hours; we finally found a

bach flower remedy (rescue remedy, great stuff) and we took him to see

randall neustadter, which really really helped. it was NOT bad parenting,

but it was a kid so vaccine damaged, it altered his behavior in ways we

couldn't understand.

okay, i'm off my bandwagon for now. i'm sorry, but this is a touchy subject

for me. and don't even mention CHADD to me; those people disgust me. i'm

gearing up to start my own vaccine awareness group out here. i've been

opening up more and more to people i meet, when the time is right, about

vaccines, and to my surprise, so many parents are asking me questions and

are really open to hearing more about vaccine damage.

so if those of you that live in the Bay Area know of someone who has issues

in this area and who might like to join a vaccine awareness support group,

please tell them about me. i've already checked out a name; which

hopefully, it will be the BAY AREA VACCINE AWARENESS GROUP.

thanks.

kim

Re: ADHD

> I think " ADHD " is just another name for poor parenting in many cases. >

March 27, 2002

I definitely believe ADHD exhists and never for a moment would I blame true ADHD

on parents. What I did say was " in many cases " kids are labeled ADHD when that

is not the case.

I have 2 children that haven't always done what I expected them to do, threw a

few tantrums in their days, acted out when they were angry or frustrated. This

is called being a normal child. If I wanted to label them ADHD because they get

angry, can't sit still or whatever, that would be wrong. They have to be taught

acceptable behavior. If no one teaches them, how will they learn. Is this the

case in all children? Of course not. There are many who have legitimate

problems and need other interventions (no vaccinations being a good place to

start!) There are many who have parents who are at the end of their rope trying

to do the right thing for their children, and it just doesn't seem to make a

difference. I understand that and wouldn't for a moment mean to step on their

toes.

I'm not calling anyone a " bad parent. " Goodness knows I am not the perfect

parent.