Prozac

[Guest guest]

Wow -- yes, that kind of stuff does happen with AntiD's. When I look back

at my behavior while I was on AntiD's (the feeling of exhaustion, the

insomnia combined with it, and the bouts of agitation and rage at times), I

think it

was because I was stopping one and starting another; stopping one and

starting another (this went on for years). And when I stopped Lexapro suddenly

? ?

? It was awful -- no fun at all not to mention it was just plain dangerous

physiologically to do so. I knew I shouldn't stop something suddenly, but I

just didn't care, I guess.

I've always been an " animated-type " person (was diagnosed hyperactive as a

kid), and I think as an adult (40ish when they started me on AntiD's), that

it was the AntiD's that served to enhance the times I felt (and got) so angry.

I look at the way I feel and behave now compared to the way I felt and

behaved while taking then, and I was one who felt and acted like a lunatic

(delusional) while on them.

I'm glad you all were OK through that and that nothing tragic happened due to

his delusional state. I've got a friend who -- yesterday -- told me he had

stopped his Depakote suddenly. He's been on Prozac, Wellbutrin, Depakote,

three blood pressure medicines for five years (and more recently they've

prescribed Percocet and Ativan). He is tired of " all these da** pills " , as he

puts

it, and he talked to the VA docs a few months ago about getting off some of

the " head meds " . (he's talked to them in years passed about getting off some

of them because he thinks they aren't helping). They told him he was on such

a low of Depakote that he didn't need liver function tests done, and that his

liver would be just fine (he doesn't have Hep C) . I saw him for the first

time yesterday (hadn't seen him in a few months), and he said he got angry at

all the meds he's been on, and that he " just stopped the damn things himself "

(the depakote). I told him to watch out on stopping anything suddenly and

to not DARE stop anything else suddenly and to call his doc about having

stopped the Depakote suddenly. He said " screw 'em -- they aren't going to

listen to

what I have to say or want to do " . And they really haven't listened to him,

not to mention he's now strung out on Ativan and Percocet that shouldn't have

been prescribed to the extent it was. In his case, the docs did him a HUGE

disservice to have EVER prescribed him (an admitted alcoholic who had relapsed

after 17 yrs of sobriety), Ativan AND Percocet. Granted, he may have needed

the Ativan while getting off the alcohol (he fessed up to the docs he had

fallen off the wagon and that he wanted to stop drinking). They offered rehab

or -- if he promised to stop drinking -- Ativan. He refused rehab and took the

Ativan. As far as the Percoet, he may have needed it for a few weeks for

pain, but it's been four months now, and they are STILL prescribing the Ativan

and the Percocet hand over fist, not to mention he's not stopped drinking. And

now? He has stopped the Depakote suddenly. I'm truly concerned for him.

This kind of " poly pharmacy " happens, and I don't think he's " ever coming

back " . He's out there now -- drunk, strung out, Percocetted up, and it's just

a

shame.

Let me stop rambling - lol !

You all have a great day.

In a message dated 5/28/2004 9:44:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,

gourdmad@... writes:

> Regardless of whatever someone decides to do about AntiDs, please bear this

> in mind - if you are on one now, DO NOT STOP ABRUPTLY, do so under the care

> of a physician, and usually it is done incrementally.

>

> Long story short, my(then) teenaged daughter had a fairly innocuos teenage

> " stalker " on AntiDs who some probably well meaning person advised to stop

> taking them and he did and the rebound effect sent him over the top. He

> showed up at my house one morning after I had left for work but before the

> school bus had come. He was carrying an axe, and when my terrified younger

> son answered the door and told him to not come in he went around to a back

> door and went right into the house to my daughter's room who appropriately

> locked her door. He then went outside and started chopping down a 30 inch

> diameter tree in my front yard, when the bus came he tried to board it,

> quite the scenario. My family was all terrified.

>

> As it turned out, he probably wasn't violent, had some delusion that if he

> chopped up enough firewood (we heat with wood) for my daughter he could

> finally win her heart, but at first glance it was difficult to know that.

> The deputy sheriff who arrived and arrested him, told my wife it was a good

> thing I wasn't there because the guy would most likely been dead (the deputy

> knew me :-).

>

> So don't stop abruptly.

>

> Second, take some freshly ground flaxseed everyday. It is high in omega 3s

> which is a natural antidepressent, it has certainly helped me and a search

> of medline will yield more than one supporting study.

>

> Excercise is also an anti depressent.

>

>

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In a message dated 5/29/2004 9:45:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

jtwagers7@... writes:

and the Percocet hand over fist, not to mention he's not stopped drinking.

And

now? He has stopped the Depakote suddenly. I'm truly concerned for him.

This kind of " poly pharmacy " happens, and I don't think he's " ever coming

back " . He's out there now -- drunk, strung out, Percocetted up, and it's

just a

,

Im horrified. What are they trying to do take him from alcoholism to drug

addiction? Dr.'s, admittedly, do not have time to study every aspect of every

field of medicene, but checking a physician's desk reference once in awhile

might be an idea.

Anne

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In a message dated 5/29/2004 9:45:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

jtwagers7@... writes:

and the Percocet hand over fist, not to mention he's not stopped drinking.

And

now? He has stopped the Depakote suddenly. I'm truly concerned for him.

This kind of " poly pharmacy " happens, and I don't think he's " ever coming

back " . He's out there now -- drunk, strung out, Percocetted up, and it's

just a

,

Im horrified. What are they trying to do take him from alcoholism to drug

addiction? Dr.'s, admittedly, do not have time to study every aspect of every

field of medicene, but checking a physician's desk reference once in awhile

might be an idea.

Anne

[Guest guest]

Have been on prozac for a few years now and could'nt do without it

tried a few times to go without but got very depressed and bad

tempered. Think I would of been divorced now if I did'nt have it.

best wishes Doreen

[Guest guest]

Dave,

I feel bad you are going through all this. I have been praying for you that

you will come through this with little or no side effects. It seems to get so

complex not knowing what is causing some of the problems. I am sure it has to

be hard to know what meds to take. It seems like the meds with the greatest

side effects are also the ones that work best.

I will continue to pray that things will settle down for you, Dave. You are

well loved here by many.

Praying for God's healing touch,

Bill

Dewi/BJ <dewi@...> wrote:

Well, the tapering off Prozac is not going so well. My Pain levels

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[Guest guest]

Could not get Miss Silky into a kennel on short notice so I get to

stay home.

+Dave, Maybe Miss Silky knew that it's best for you to stay home and

out of the yukky weather. It's also good to stay away from others and

the viruses' going around. Just wished you could've enjoyed the party

anyways.

Betty J in OKC

[Guest guest]

Bill wrote: It seems to get so complex not knowing what is causing some of the

problems. I am sure it has to be hard to know what meds to take. It seems like

the meds with the greatest side effects are also the ones that work best.

Thanks for your prayers Bill. I think that when we were younger we all about

the cure that could kill you. We are now living in that era. I agree Bill, but

add one other point. The cost of a drug that works is exponentionaly related to

the relief gained.

Just watching the news and there was a report on the cost of some of the drugs

that can give colon cancer patients a little more time and a better quality of

life for that extra time. Avastin is the drug that the Government of

Saskatchewan will not pay for as it costs 54,000 dollars a year per patient. Of

course the patient would have to live that long, which the long odds are

against. We hear the same things about Remicade, Humira, Enbrel and the rest of

those drugs. Provincial health plans shudder when they are prescribed and want

to be very sure that every other lower cost treatment has failed first. It is

not a problem for us as we now enjoy 100 percent coverage for prescription drugs

through a combination of private plans.

They gave another example of the crazyness of the cost of medicine.

Thalidomide, a drug that caused havoc decades ago and was relegated to the

basement and couldn't be given away, now costs $37.50 per pill. Someone is

ripping off someone as they cannot claim all the development costs for the drug.

All they found out was that while tragic when taken by pregnant women for

nausea, works on some cancers.

Blessings to all

+Dave

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Dear +Dave,

Wishing you some peaceful, prayerful quiet time. And that you and Silky keep

each other company. I am naming you in my prayers as you wean off the Prozac.

Fondly,

in CA

[Guest guest]

Dave, you have my prayers, too. I pray peace to your mind and body and all

of us in this support group.

Re: About the cost of drugs that can really change the progression of

disease:

It is my personal opinion that most of these drug companies are the

" neo-mafia " of our current age. The increase in cost of drugs, health care, and

energy (all things that we cannot live without), have us caught in a hostage

type

of situation. These huge companies get all the benefits and tax savings from

our government, but do not forward the savings on to us. It is a matter of

greed on their part and can be proven by the exorbitant salaries that the CEO's

and other officers of these companies receive. It used to be illegal drugs,

gambling, manufacturing, etc., now it is prescription drugs, health care, and

the oil and natural gas industries.

Connie

[Guest guest]

Your in my thoughts and prayers +Dave.

hugs,

Angie

Dewi/BJ <dewi@...> wrote:

Well, the tapering off Prozac is not going so well. My Pain levels are up

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for sharing your Prozac experience, and please keep updating us.

When I hired my Rheumatologist the first thing he did was writing me a scrip

for Oxycontin, the next thing he did was giving me scrips for Prozac and

Elavil. I knew right away that he made the right call. I have the same side

effects

that you described in your previous post; untidyness and reading slowly

etc. I am curious to know what to expect if I stopped using them. So,

Thanks

and keep 'em coming, Harv ReA/I'll be 51 in 2 weeks

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for your emails both on and off list and prayers, they are

encouraging and comforting as I go through this.

Prozac, Oxycontin and Elavil are good drugs for treating chronic pain. But as

one gets older the more psychotropic drugs behave differently in us.

When I started having Prozac build up in the brain, I was on 40 mgm of Prozac

daily and took it for the last 9 years. I started off on 20 mgm but come winter

I spiraled down into clinical depression further, so the dose went up to 40mgm.

It worked well for all those years until mid summer last year.

The weaning started by dropping to 20 mgm per day for 3 weeks, then down to 20

mgm every 2nd day for three weeks. I felt great and wanted to stop the drug

then. He persuaded me to go for another 3 weeks on the alternate day dosing. I

think that it took 4 and a half weeks for the excess Prozac left my body as last

week was stupendously rotten. I felt myself slipping into depression and became

ill-tempered and very moody. Enough so to affect others moods. The worst times

began in the afternoon of the day I took Prozac and would even out a bit the

next day but that changed. I became worse in the afternoon as before but now it

lasted 24 hours at a time. I felt myself losing it yesterday and took an extra

elavil and it helped somewhat and had to do the same today. When I got home

from Church, Hazel and her mother were home from Swift Current, Saskatchewan. I

did contact the family shrink this afternoon and he told me to take that extra

Elavil 25 mgm at noonhour daily. He is going to get me in earlier than the 3rd

week appointment I have now.

Harv, wishing you an early happy 51st birthday. I have one coming up in 44

days, 1 hour and 25 minutes, but whose counting.

Blessings and thanks to you all

+Dave

[Guest guest]

I'm glad that Prozac was helpful for so many years, Dave. I've had a hard

time getting off some medications. I stopped an anti-depressant cold turkey

once not realizing that I shouldn't quit without a doctor's guidance. I had

severe headaches and sleep paralysis along with an inner ear problem that caused

my eyes to flutter when I laid down. The newer anti-depressants are not benign

drugs. I would like to get off the 5 mg of methadone that I take. I find that

I have a real loss of energy during the day when I don't take it. I just feel

uncomfortable. Hope you feel better soon and get it all worked out.

Kay

[Guest guest]

Would like to know if anyone had any problems with their child`s appetite while

on prozac? Changed SSRI`s from celexa to prozac 7.5 mg in A.M.

This little boy is hypoglycemic a very picky eater 2 days on prozac not eating

anything but dry cerial. He is sleeping now & happy. Has anyone have this happen

if so will this be an adjustment to this med? I see this could be a side affect

on prozac. Curious woul love to know any experiences while on this medicine.

Thanks

Carole

[Guest guest]

C arole, I took care of a child that had Prader Willi's Syndrome {sp?} and

in order to control his appetite they put him on Prozac and it seemed to

help a lot!

Hope that helps,

, CCE [bWI}

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From: " chocolatiluv " <chocolatiluv@...>

Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 1:19 PM

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Subject: Prozac

> Would like to know if anyone had any problems with their child`s appetite

> while on prozac? Changed SSRI`s from celexa to prozac 7.5 mg in A.M.

> This little boy is hypoglycemic a very picky eater 2 days on prozac not

> eating anything but dry cerial. He is sleeping now & happy. Has anyone

> have this happen if so will this be an adjustment to this med? I see this

> could be a side affect on prozac. Curious woul love to know any

> experiences while on this medicine.

> Thanks

> Carole

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Carole,

We switched my son from Celexa to Prozac about ten days ago and noticed a dip in

his appetite right away, but he bounced back in a BIG way after about the fifth

day. So it could very well just be part of your son's adjustment period.

Of course, if you don't see improvement after a few more days, definitely let

Dr. G know.

HTH,

Donna

>

> Would like to know if anyone had any problems with their child`s appetite

while on prozac? Changed SSRI`s from celexa to prozac 7.5 mg in A.M.

> This little boy is hypoglycemic a very picky eater 2 days on prozac not

eating anything but dry cerial. He is sleeping now & happy. Has anyone have this

happen if so will this be an adjustment to this med? I see this could be a side

affect on prozac. Curious woul love to know any experiences while on this

medicine.

> Thanks

> Carole

>

[Guest guest]

How does Dr. G decide when to change the SSRI?

Re: Prozac

Hi Carole,

We switched my son from Celexa to Prozac about ten days ago and noticed a dip in

his appetite right away, but he bounced back in a BIG way after about the fifth

day. So it could very well just be part of your son's adjustment period.

Of course, if you don't see improvement after a few more days, definitely let

Dr. G know.

HTH,

Donna

>

> Would like to know if anyone had any problems with their child`s appetite

while on prozac? Changed SSRI`s from celexa to prozac 7.5 mg in A.M.

> This little boy is hypoglycemic a very picky eater 2 days on prozac not

eating anything but dry cerial. He is sleeping now & happy. Has anyone have this

happen if so will this be an adjustment to this med? I see this could be a side

affect on prozac. Curious woul love to know any experiences while on this

medicine.

> Thanks

> Carole

>