Re: OT: MMS and traveling

[Guest guest]

If he is lucky enough to be symptom free and have a second chance at life, why

would he want to put that at risk? There are lots of ways to volunteer to needy

people in the US, where certainly the burden on his system would be less. Toxic

immunizations would likely be enough to bring it all back. If not, certainly

the parasites he would contract there and the resultant stress on the immune

system will.

We are currently spending a minimum of $2000 a month trying to help our daughter

get well, traveling 6 hours from home each way every 1-2 weeks. She has

suffered unspeakably for 4 years. There is no end in sight. Coiling failed

miserably. After faithfully using it for a year, she quit when she had so much

pain she could no longer get down on the floor to use it. That was last August.

We recently purchased an $8000 ozone sauna, but that, we are told, works as fast

as emptying a rainbarrel with a teaspoon. She has done Vitamin C by IV, Ozone

by IV, UV light by IV, Phosphatidylcholine by IV, had 3 IV metal chelation

tests, had 4 neural therapy injection sessions, takes dozens of pills, drops and

liquids every day, has had four cavitation surgeries, has taken 3 1-month long

parasite cleanses using heavy duty high dose pharmaceuticals. She ate nothing

but green vegetables, protein and fat for 6 months. NOTHING is helping. The

next thing: TMJ intervention that we are told will cost between $10,000-$50,000.

As she was laying in the dental chair, the dentist had me took at her head and

neck while standing at her feet...to look at the asymmetry in her neck, and

several different lines in her face. It hit home hard. There are no guarantees,

and my expectations for success are probably even lower, yet we have to try, if

there's a chance this will help. All the energy meridians in the body run

through the mouth, what goes on there is critical to systemic health.

Why would you consider doing something that could bring this nightmare back once

you won the lottery of recovery?

>

> Hello everyone!

> My son who has been fighting lyme since he was 11 in 2001 has been

symptom-free for ll months now! Although we are extremely happy about that, we

are realists and have been around long enough to know how this ugly disease can

just pop his ugly head back up at just anytime it pleases.

>

> However, in the meantime, my son is enjoying life to it's fullest! =) He has

recently consented to go on church missions trip to Tanzania! This is real

Tanzania......sleeping on the ground with the mamba snakes, washing his clothes

in the river, drinking water that they draw from the river (they do have some

sort of purification system), outhouses are a convenience, transportation is

walking and biking. Yea, mom is quite a mess! =( But at the same time I am happy

to see him able to do something he has really longed to do. It is so " him " .

>

> Right now he is trying to decide what vaccinations and drugs he will take for

the trip. Nothing is required but there is a list that is strongly

recommended...typhoid, Hep A, Polio, Mumps, Cholera. They also supply

doxycycline to prevent malaria. He doesn't like the idea of putting all this

stuff into him. What if it stirs something up he really doesn't want stirred up.

=( We were wondering if anyone out there has traveled to a third world country

and has taken only MMS.

> Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks and God bless, Malinda

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Malinda,I've been biting my tongue, but feel I must speak up.Recently, I met a woman who'd done just what your son is contemplating doing. She told me a horror story of bad water that patients and would-be converts were drinking, and that the missionaries had their own 'safe' water in the 'kitchen' which later turned out to be anything but safe. She's not a Lymie, but now pretty sick and stateside docs are clueless and she's a mess.Another friend, a doctor, went with a Mennonite mission to Ethiopia, was bitten almost fatally by a snake, came home, supposedly fine, and has struggled with mysterious health issues ever since that they've decided were exotic parasites. She's quasi-recovered, but it limited her practice here for years and has left her permanently, physically damaged. Both these people were healthy before they went out on their missions.Lyme can go undergound. I don't know whether your son went into remission from abx, but if he did, it's likely that Lyme could be sleeping, in cyst form and could re-emerge from 6 to 20 years hence, five-fold. With encouragement from stress, other new pathogens, and privations, this could be highly probable. Unless your son has a young man's romantic/religious notion of the glory of martyrdom, I think there could be better, more durable ways of demonstrating his faith.My heart goes out to you.Be well,Léna

If he is lucky enough to be symptom free and have a second chance at life, why would he want to put that at risk? There are lots of ways to volunteer to needy people in the US, where certainly the burden on his system would be less. Toxic immunizations would likely be enough to bring it all back. If not, certainly the parasites he would contract there and the resultant stress on the immune system will.

We are currently spending a minimum of $2000 a month trying to help our daughter get well, traveling 6 hours from home each way every 1-2 weeks. She has suffered unspeakably for 4 years. There is no end in sight. Coiling failed miserably. After faithfully using it for a year, she quit when she had so much pain she could no longer get down on the floor to use it. That was last August. We recently purchased an $8000 ozone sauna, but that, we are told, works as fast as emptying a rainbarrel with a teaspoon. She has done Vitamin C by IV, Ozone by IV, UV light by IV, Phosphatidylcholine by IV, had 3 IV metal chelation tests, had 4 neural therapy injection sessions, takes dozens of pills, drops and liquids every day, has had four cavitation surgeries, has taken 3 1-month long parasite cleanses using heavy duty high dose pharmaceuticals. She ate nothing but green vegetables, protein and fat for 6 months. NOTHING is helping. The next thing: TMJ intervention that we are told will cost between $10,000-$50,000. As she was laying in the dental chair, the dentist had me took at her head and neck while standing at her feet...to look at the asymmetry in her neck, and several different lines in her face. It hit home hard. There are no guarantees, and my expectations for success are probably even lower, yet we have to try, if there's a chance this will help. All the energy meridians in the body run through the mouth, what goes on there is critical to systemic health.

Why would you consider doing something that could bring this nightmare back once you won the lottery of recovery?

>

> Hello everyone!

> My son who has been fighting lyme since he was 11 in 2001 has been symptom-free for ll months now! Although we are extremely happy about that, we are realists and have been around long enough to know how this ugly disease can just pop his ugly head back up at just anytime it pleases.

>

> However, in the meantime, my son is enjoying life to it's fullest! =) He has recently consented to go on church missions trip to Tanzania! This is real Tanzania......sleeping on the ground with the mamba snakes, washing his clothes in the river, drinking water that they draw from the river (they do have some sort of purification system), outhouses are a convenience, transportation is walking and biking. Yea, mom is quite a mess! =( But at the same time I am happy to see him able to do something he has really longed to do. It is so "him".

>

> Right now he is trying to decide what vaccinations and drugs he will take for the trip. Nothing is required but there is a list that is strongly recommended...typhoid, Hep A, Polio, Mumps, Cholera. They also supply doxycycline to prevent malaria. He doesn't like the idea of putting all this stuff into him. What if it stirs something up he really doesn't want stirred up. =( We were wondering if anyone out there has traveled to a third world country and has taken only MMS.

> Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks and God bless, Malinda

>

[Guest guest]

Malinda, I couldn't agree more with Lena and . I would seriously consider explaining these concerns to your son. How old is he? Even if I were healthy I personally would not go to these places. As a lyme patient I don't believe we are ever completely rid of the disease but best hope for a symptom free life. Anything can stir up the pot. I know you want him to be "normal" but are you willing to risk his state of health. I worry about my 2 kids who are not being treated for lyme (never tested but had them while infected). I am assuming they have it but so far they are "symptom free" (to the rest of the world). My son loves to go to boot camp (yes, loves it) and wants to be in the Air Force. I want him to hope for that.

Sounds neglectful but I want them to experience as much "normal" as possible. If does have lyme once we start treating they will NOT feel as good as they do now. So I know I don't know you or your son but I would really consider what has been said here.

[Guest guest]

Hi, I read your reply and was horrified at the lack of results for your child during treatment! My husband I and 3 kids have lyme and are slowly improving with treatment. We started with salt c,herbs, colloidal silver and seemed to be taking it endlessly with not much improvement. However when we looked back although we didn’t feel better (herxing made us worse all the time) we did recover some ability to do things. Antibiotics was the first jump in health for us and seems to be the first thing that has given us back some quality of life. My kids are now back in school again and so much happier for it. Still have to be careful, still have problems with memory, some sick days with die off, can’t do sports etc. But huge improvement.Next we added Rife with doug coil. Amazing how immediate the die off effects. Have learnt though to do Bartonella first and only do lyme once a week to hold it off. Realise that for the moment Bart is our biggest problem and was holding down other infections from treatment. Will do babesia next and slowly work through every other possiblilty looking for die off reactions. Some we have not reacted to previously, we now react to since starting treatment for Bart. All this without positive tests for anything but Lyme. Have realised that you can get false negs for co-infections which can hold back improvements. So 2 concerns to bring up....co-infections and detoxing from die off...jst wondering how she is with these two? and shocked that rife is not helping you! Out of curiousity, can you please tell me if you are using a Doug Coil? Wishing you all the best with your daughters recovery and hope you get some help soon lisa From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 1:57 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Re: OT: MMS and traveling If he is lucky enough to be symptom free and have a second chance at life, why would he want to put that at risk? There are lots of ways to volunteer to needy people in the US, where certainly the burden on his system would be less. Toxic immunizations would likely be enough to bring it all back. If not, certainly the parasites he would contract there and the resultant stress on the immune system will.We are currently spending a minimum of $2000 a month trying to help our daughter get well, traveling 6 hours from home each way every 1-2 weeks. She has suffered unspeakably for 4 years. There is no end in sight. Coiling failed miserably. After faithfully using it for a year, she quit when she had so much pain she could no longer get down on the floor to use it. That was last August. We recently purchased an $8000 ozone sauna, but that, we are told, works as fast as emptying a rainbarrel with a teaspoon. She has done Vitamin C by IV, Ozone by IV, UV light by IV, Phosphatidylcholine by IV, had 3 IV metal chelation tests, had 4 neural therapy injection sessions, takes dozens of pills, drops and liquids every day, has had four cavitation surgeries, has taken 3 1-month long parasite cleanses using heavy duty high dose pharmaceuticals. She ate nothing but green vegetables, protein and fat for 6 months. NOTHING is helping. The next thing: TMJ intervention that we are told will cost between $10,000-$50,000. As she was laying in the dental chair, the dentist had me took at her head and neck while standing at her feet...to look at the asymmetry in her neck, and several different lines in her face. It hit home hard. There are no guarantees, and my expectations for success are probably even lower, yet we have to try, if there's a chance this will help. All the energy meridians in the body run through the mouth, what goes on there is critical to systemic health.Why would you consider doing something that could bring this nightmare back once you won the lottery of recovery?>> Hello everyone!> My son who has been fighting lyme since he was 11 in 2001 has been symptom-free for ll months now! Although we are extremely happy about that, we are realists and have been around long enough to know how this ugly disease can just pop his ugly head back up at just anytime it pleases.> > However, in the meantime, my son is enjoying life to it's fullest! =) He has recently consented to go on church missions trip to Tanzania! This is real Tanzania......sleeping on the ground with the mamba snakes, washing his clothes in the river, drinking water that they draw from the river (they do have some sort of purification system), outhouses are a convenience, transportation is walking and biking. Yea, mom is quite a mess! =( But at the same time I am happy to see him able to do something he has really longed to do. It is so " him " . > > Right now he is trying to decide what vaccinations and drugs he will take for the trip. Nothing is required but there is a list that is strongly recommended...typhoid, Hep A, Polio, Mumps, Cholera. They also supply doxycycline to prevent malaria. He doesn't like the idea of putting all this stuff into him. What if it stirs something up he really doesn't want stirred up. =( We were wondering if anyone out there has traveled to a third world country and has taken only MMS.> Any advise would be greatly appreciated.> > Thanks and God bless, Malinda>

[Guest guest]

You guys are gonna terrify this poor woman. Her son is 22 years old and the

question was wether he should get the shots not whether he should go. i have

spent some 18 months in Ghana while Ive had chronic lyme and the weather only

keeps you from getting sick, Im usually there in the spring and it never came

out while I was there. you sweat it right out of you. This will be a wonderful

healing and life expirience for him. The danger is the shots, I have heard and

felt them have a very bad impact on the body mind and immune system. But he

probably doesnt need any of them anyway. They should investigate MMS and

typhoid, and he should be careful of mosquitos and mambas. And put the mms in

unbreakable containers.

[Guest guest]

hi,question:  can he fly with the liquid mms products????????????????   i doubt he can.  there is a 3 oz. limit, so better put it in a couple smaller bottles.  even then, if they don't know what mms is, they may take it.  many had trouble with even the small amounts of things when i flew in  march.  so just be prepared.  

barbara

 

You guys are gonna terrify this poor woman. Her son is 22 years old and the question was wether he should get the shots not whether he should go. i have spent some 18 months in Ghana while Ive had chronic lyme and the weather only keeps you from getting sick, Im usually there in the spring and it never came out while I was there. you sweat it right out of you. This will be a wonderful healing and life expirience for him. The danger is the shots, I have heard and felt them have a very bad impact on the body mind and immune system. But he probably doesnt need any of them anyway. They should investigate MMS and typhoid, and he should be careful of mosquitos and mambas. And put the mms in unbreakable containers.

[Guest guest]

HI,

Mercury +mercury +mercury +mercury +mercury + mercury = Zombie in the best case sooner or later good luck with the vaccination !!!!!

Say no thank you no flee and do not turn back .

Kindly

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 11:56 AMSubject: Re: OT: MMS and traveling

If he is lucky enough to be symptom free and have a second chance at life, why would he want to put that at risk? There are lots of ways to volunteer to needy people in the US, where certainly the burden on his system would be less. Toxic immunizations would likely be enough to bring it all back. If not, certainly the parasites he would contract there and the resultant stress on the immune system will.We are currently spending a minimum of $2000 a month trying to help our daughter get well, traveling 6 hours from home each way every 1-2 weeks. She has suffered unspeakably for 4 years. There is no end in sight. Coiling failed miserably. After faithfully using it for a year, she quit when she had so much pain she could no longer get down on the floor to use it. That was last August. We recently purchased an $8000 ozone sauna, but that, we are told, works as fast as emptying a rainbarrel with a teaspoon. She has done Vitamin C by IV, Ozone by

IV, UV light by IV, Phosphatidylcholine by IV, had 3 IV metal chelation tests, had 4 neural therapy injection sessions, takes dozens of pills, drops and liquids every day, has had four cavitation surgeries, has taken 3 1-month long parasite cleanses using heavy duty high dose pharmaceuticals. She ate nothing but green vegetables, protein and fat for 6 months. NOTHING is helping. The next thing: TMJ intervention that we are told will cost between $10,000-$50,000. As she was laying in the dental chair, the dentist had me took at her head and neck while standing at her feet...to look at the asymmetry in her neck, and several different lines in her face. It hit home hard. There are no guarantees, and my expectations for success are probably even lower, yet we have to try, if there's a chance this will help. All the energy meridians in the body run through the mouth, what goes on there is critical to systemic health.Why would you consider doing

something that could bring this nightmare back once you won the lottery of recovery?>> Hello everyone!> My son who has been fighting lyme since he was 11 in 2001 has been symptom-free for ll months now! Although we are extremely happy about that, we are realists and have been around long enough to know how this ugly disease can just pop his ugly head back up at just anytime it pleases.> > However, in the meantime, my son is enjoying life to it's fullest! =) He has recently consented to go on church missions trip to Tanzania! This is real Tanzania......sleeping on the ground with the mamba snakes, washing his clothes in the river, drinking water that they draw from the river (they do have some sort of

purification system), outhouses are a convenience, transportation is walking and biking. Yea, mom is quite a mess! =( But at the same time I am happy to see him able to do something he has really longed to do. It is so "him". > > Right now he is trying to decide what vaccinations and drugs he will take for the trip. Nothing is required but there is a list that is strongly recommended...typhoid, Hep A, Polio, Mumps, Cholera. They also supply doxycycline to prevent malaria. He doesn't like the idea of putting all this stuff into him. What if it stirs something up he really doesn't want stirred up. =( We were wondering if anyone out there has traveled to a third world country and has taken only MMS.> Any advise would be greatly appreciated.> > Thanks and God bless, Malinda>

[Guest guest]

I use to be advanturous th eprice to pay is hight i it slike aloan you pay i tlong after ,

Kinldy Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 6:34 PMSubject: Re: OT: MMS and traveling

You guys are gonna terrify this poor woman. Her son is 22 years old and the question was wether he should get the shots not whether he should go. i have spent some 18 months in Ghana while Ive had chronic lyme and the weather only keeps you from getting sick, Im usually there in the spring and it never came out while I was there. you sweat it right out of you. This will be a wonderful healing and life expirience for him. The danger is the shots, I have heard and felt them have a very bad impact on the body mind and immune system. But he probably doesnt need any of them anyway. They should investigate MMS and typhoid, and he should be careful of mosquitos and mambas. And put the mms in unbreakable containers.

[Guest guest]

Hi Malinda,

I have to agree with Lena. My husband went overseas and traveled throughout

Asia for 6 months. He picked up some parasite from bad water and lost about 50

pounds and landed in the hospital. This was years ago when he was in his

twenties. Luckily, he recovered but he also never had Lyme.

I am one of the Lymies who begins to think I am well because I can go for a year

with no symptoms and then suddenly I am having arthritis symptoms again. This

spring it was all brought on by a round of Borrelia Homeopathics which I think

stirred up some dormant Lyme. I don't think you can ever totally recover 100%

from this disease and when you are at a place that you are feeling better, you

can never let your guard down and must be vigilant about nutrition and avoiding

situations such as vaccines that can lower the immune system to the point that

Lyme can take over again. As much as it sounds like your son is commited to

this trip, I would at least provide him with the information about the potential

to relapse if he isn't careful.

> > >

> > > Hello everyone!

> > > My son who has been fighting lyme since he was 11 in 2001 has been

symptom-free for ll months now! Although we are extremely happy about that, we

are realists and have been around long enough to know how this ugly disease can

just pop his ugly head back up at just anytime it pleases.

> > >

> > > However, in the meantime, my son is enjoying life to it's fullest! =) He

has recently consented to go on church missions trip to Tanzania! This is real

Tanzania......sleeping on the ground with the mamba snakes, washing his clothes

in the river, drinking water that they draw from the river (they do have some

sort of purification system), outhouses are a convenience, transportation is

walking and biking. Yea, mom is quite a mess! =( But at the same time I am happy

to see him able to do something he has really longed to do. It is so " him " .

> > >

> > > Right now he is trying to decide what vaccinations and drugs he will take

for the trip. Nothing is required but there is a list that is strongly

recommended...typhoid, Hep A, Polio, Mumps, Cholera. They also supply

doxycycline to prevent malaria. He doesn't like the idea of putting all this

stuff into him. What if it stirs something up he really doesn't want stirred up.

=( We were wondering if anyone out there has traveled to a third world country

and has taken only MMS.

> > > Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks and God bless, Malinda

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you all so very much for responding!!

I do appreciate all the love and concern. However, my son is as Cameron stated

22 years old and is making his own decision. He is well aware of the dangers. He

did not make the decision overnight.He has always lived his life to the fullest.

As a mother, it has been nerve-racking. And yet, as I look on and see the joy he

gets out of life in between his bouts of pain and suffering, I am glad he does

it. His life goes way beyond lyme. He is very diligent in taking all his many

supplements and doing any protocol he is on. BUT, as far as thinking about lyme,

that is where it ends.

He enjoys every day to the fullest. Days when he was in so much pain and fatigue

he could barely get from the sofa to the table, he would do nothing. But if

there was any strength at all, he would watch videos of wilderness survival,

extreme mountain biking and other vigourous things he enjoys when he is healthy.

He would lay on his back (because it takes too much energy to sit up) and play

his banjo and guitar. When he started having a good day he would hike or

mountain bike for many miles all day long, even if he knew it would land him on

his back for a week or even more. You have to understand, my son IS going to

experience life on the edge if any way possible. For him sitting around home and

pampering himself is not what he wants to do. If he knew beyond a shadow of a

doubt that he definitly would get terrible sick, I even wonder then if he still

would not go to Africa, and just figure it is the price he has to pay. I am

telling you, he is that kind of guy. Believe me as a mother, I echo everything

you mothers have said. But I think Cameron understands my son better than we

mothers do. =)

So, as Cameron stated, my question was really about taking MMS. If anyone has

used it for this type of situation. Also I was wondering how to take it. I am

pretty sure he has decided to not take any vaccinations. We will be checking

into taking it along on the airplane, thanks to the one who voiced that concern.

Thanks again for the responses. I really do appreciate them all.

God bless ~ Malinda

>

> Hello everyone!

> My son who has been fighting lyme since he was 11 in 2001 has been

symptom-free for ll months now! Although we are extremely happy about that, we

are realists and have been around long enough to know how this ugly disease can

just pop his ugly head back up at just anytime it pleases.

>

> However, in the meantime, my son is enjoying life to it's fullest! =) He has

recently consented to go on church missions trip to Tanzania! This is real

Tanzania......sleeping on the ground with the mamba snakes, washing his clothes

in the river, drinking water that they draw from the river (they do have some

sort of purification system), outhouses are a convenience, transportation is

walking and biking. Yea, mom is quite a mess! =( But at the same time I am happy

to see him able to do something he has really longed to do. It is so " him " .

>

> Right now he is trying to decide what vaccinations and drugs he will take for

the trip. Nothing is required but there is a list that is strongly

recommended...typhoid, Hep A, Polio, Mumps, Cholera. They also supply

doxycycline to prevent malaria. He doesn't like the idea of putting all this

stuff into him. What if it stirs something up he really doesn't want stirred up.

=( We were wondering if anyone out there has traveled to a third world country

and has taken only MMS.

> Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks and God bless, Malinda

>

[Guest guest]

Very good ,

He may take mms as aprotection and insect repellent too , h emay look at the video on how to prepare mms for the day in a bottle I do not have it Jim surely has it .

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:24 AMSubject: Re: OT: MMS and traveling

Thank you all so very much for responding!!I do appreciate all the love and concern. However, my son is as Cameron stated 22 years old and is making his own decision. He is well aware of the dangers. He did not make the decision overnight.He has always lived his life to the fullest. As a mother, it has been nerve-racking. And yet, as I look on and see the joy he gets out of life in between his bouts of pain and suffering, I am glad he does it. His life goes way beyond lyme. He is very diligent in taking all his many supplements and doing any protocol he is on. BUT, as far as thinking about lyme, that is where it ends.He enjoys every day to the fullest. Days when he was in so much pain and fatigue he could barely get from the sofa to the table, he would do nothing. But if there was any strength at all, he would watch videos of wilderness survival, extreme mountain biking and other vigourous things he enjoys when he is healthy. He would lay on

his back (because it takes too much energy to sit up) and play his banjo and guitar. When he started having a good day he would hike or mountain bike for many miles all day long, even if he knew it would land him on his back for a week or even more. You have to understand, my son IS going to experience life on the edge if any way possible. For him sitting around home and pampering himself is not what he wants to do. If he knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that he definitly would get terrible sick, I even wonder then if he still would not go to Africa, and just figure it is the price he has to pay. I am telling you, he is that kind of guy. Believe me as a mother, I echo everything you mothers have said. But I think Cameron understands my son better than we mothers do. =) So, as Cameron stated, my question was really about taking MMS. If anyone has used it for this type of situation. Also I was wondering how to take it. I am pretty sure he has decided

to not take any vaccinations. We will be checking into taking it along on the airplane, thanks to the one who voiced that concern.Thanks again for the responses. I really do appreciate them all.God bless ~ Malinda>> Hello everyone!> My son who has been fighting lyme since he was 11 in 2001 has been symptom-free for ll months now! Although we are extremely happy about that, we are realists and have been around long enough to know how this ugly disease can just pop his ugly head back up at just anytime it pleases.> > However, in the meantime, my son is enjoying life to it's fullest! =) He has recently consented to go on church missions trip to Tanzania! This is real Tanzania......sleeping on the

ground with the mamba snakes, washing his clothes in the river, drinking water that they draw from the river (they do have some sort of purification system), outhouses are a convenience, transportation is walking and biking. Yea, mom is quite a mess! =( But at the same time I am happy to see him able to do something he has really longed to do. It is so "him". > > Right now he is trying to decide what vaccinations and drugs he will take for the trip. Nothing is required but there is a list that is strongly recommended...typhoid, Hep A, Polio, Mumps, Cholera. They also supply doxycycline to prevent malaria. He doesn't like the idea of putting all this stuff into him. What if it stirs something up he really doesn't want stirred up. =( We were wondering if anyone out there has traveled to a third world country and has taken only MMS.> Any advise would be greatly appreciated.> > Thanks and God bless,

Malinda>

[Guest guest]

Hi Malinda,

Very good news for your son!!! You too!!

He should however remain on a maintenance dose of a good killing protocol,

MMS is easy to take and should hopefully ward off a relapse of Lyme... 6 drops

daily is the maintenance dose, should he ever start to have Lyme symptoms again,

then cranking up the dose to 3 drops hourly for at least 8 hours daily...

If I was traveling where he is, I would definitely take MMS along... It's first

claim

to fame was in Africa, it cured 75,000 African's of Malaria and did so in just 4

- 10

hours... Dose for Malaria is 15 drops immediately, then 15 more drops in 1 - 4

hours.

While MMS will kill most pathogens, here is a list of confirmed killing

protocols

for many illnesses:

http://genesis2church.com/mms-protocol-disease-list.html

Take care,

Jim

>

> Hello everyone!

> My son who has been fighting lyme since he was 11 in 2001 has been

symptom-free for ll months now! Although we are extremely happy about that, we

are realists and have been around long enough to know how this ugly disease can

just pop his ugly head back up at just anytime it pleases.

>

> However, in the meantime, my son is enjoying life to it's fullest! =) He has

recently consented to go on church missions trip to Tanzania! This is real

Tanzania......sleeping on the ground with the mamba snakes, washing his clothes

in the river, drinking water that they draw from the river (they do have some

sort of purification system), outhouses are a convenience, transportation is

walking and biking. Yea, mom is quite a mess! =( But at the same time I am happy

to see him able to do something he has really longed to do. It is so " him " .

>

> Right now he is trying to decide what vaccinations and drugs he will take for

the trip. Nothing is required but there is a list that is strongly

recommended...typhoid, Hep A, Polio, Mumps, Cholera. They also supply

doxycycline to prevent malaria. He doesn't like the idea of putting all this

stuff into him. What if it stirs something up he really doesn't want stirred up.

=( We were wondering if anyone out there has traveled to a third world country

and has taken only MMS.

> Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks and God bless, Malinda

>

[Guest guest]

One of our group members bought MMS and it was delivered as dry

sodium chlorite and was in the MMS bottle. She had to add the water...

So this is an option and I do have the link to buy MMS dry, not wet...

Take care

Jim

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > You guys are gonna terrify this poor woman. Her son is 22 years old and

> > the question was wether he should get the shots not whether he should go. i

> > have spent some 18 months in Ghana while Ive had chronic lyme and the

> > weather only keeps you from getting sick, Im usually there in the spring

> > and it never came out while I was there. you sweat it right out of you.

> > This will be a wonderful healing and life expirience for him. The danger is

> > the shots, I have heard and felt them have a very bad impact on the body

> > mind and immune system. But he probably doesnt need any of them anyway.

> > They should investigate MMS and typhoid, and he should be careful of

> > mosquitos and mambas. And put the mms in unbreakable containers.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

I don't think that vaccines are just causing damage as a result of Thimerisol

which contains Mercury and has been known to be added to some vaccines in the

past. I get the Townsend letter and one of the articles a few years back was

about the swine flu vaccine. The vaccine was cultured on cancerous chicken

embryos according to this article. This substrate is used to grow the vaccine

and the reason they use cancerous embryos is that the cancer allows for the

vaccine to grow at a much faster rate. During the big scare a few years back,

they were cranking out vaccine as quickly as possible to cover the needs of

Americans who were terrified of getting sick with Swine Flu.

The other issue is that constantly introducing these vaccines into our body

makes our immune system lazy. It no longer has to work to fight off these

diseases. So you see it is not just about Mercury, many vaccines do not contain

Mercury.

The last problem as I see it with vaccines is that the long term data on the

newly created vaccines is not there. In other words what will these vaccines do

to us 10 years down the road. It is really funny that the FDA required testing

of Armour Thyroid which has been around since the early 1900s and used on

thousands of patients, yet they will allow newly created vaccines to be marketed

without the least bit of testing required for other drugs. If something does

come up as problematic like the Lyme vaccine marketed about 10 years ago that

caused a bad case of Lyme, they just pull it from the market and deny that there

was ever a problem. I personally don't trust any drug or vaccine that our FDA

deems as safe.

> >

> > Hello everyone!

> > My son who has been fighting lyme since he was 11 in 2001 has been

symptom-free for ll months now! Although we are extremely happy about that, we

are realists and have been around long enough to know how this ugly disease can

just pop his ugly head back up at just anytime it pleases.

> >

> > However, in the meantime, my son is enjoying life to it's fullest! =) He has

recently consented to go on church missions trip to Tanzania! This is real

Tanzania......sleeping on the ground with the mamba snakes, washing his clothes

in the river, drinking water that they draw from the river (they do have some

sort of purification system), outhouses are a convenience, transportation is

walking and biking. Yea, mom is quite a mess! =( But at the same time I am happy

to see him able to do something he has really longed to do. It is so " him " .

> >

> > Right now he is trying to decide what vaccinations and drugs he will take

for the trip. Nothing is required but there is a list that is strongly

recommended...typhoid, Hep A, Polio, Mumps, Cholera. They also supply

doxycycline to prevent malaria. He doesn't like the idea of putting all this

stuff into him. What if it stirs something up he really doesn't want stirred up.

=( We were wondering if anyone out there has traveled to a third world country

and has taken only MMS.

> > Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks and God bless, Malinda

> >

>

[Guest guest]

One other thing I forgot to mention is that Royal Rife in the lab was able to

inject Cancer into lab rats and make it grow. I wonder what vaccines grown on

Cancerous chicken embryos do to people?

> > >

> > > Hello everyone!

> > > My son who has been fighting lyme since he was 11 in 2001 has been

symptom-free for ll months now! Although we are extremely happy about that, we

are realists and have been around long enough to know how this ugly disease can

just pop his ugly head back up at just anytime it pleases.

> > >

> > > However, in the meantime, my son is enjoying life to it's fullest! =) He

has recently consented to go on church missions trip to Tanzania! This is real

Tanzania......sleeping on the ground with the mamba snakes, washing his clothes

in the river, drinking water that they draw from the river (they do have some

sort of purification system), outhouses are a convenience, transportation is

walking and biking. Yea, mom is quite a mess! =( But at the same time I am happy

to see him able to do something he has really longed to do. It is so " him " .

> > >

> > > Right now he is trying to decide what vaccinations and drugs he will take

for the trip. Nothing is required but there is a list that is strongly

recommended...typhoid, Hep A, Polio, Mumps, Cholera. They also supply

doxycycline to prevent malaria. He doesn't like the idea of putting all this

stuff into him. What if it stirs something up he really doesn't want stirred up.

=( We were wondering if anyone out there has traveled to a third world country

and has taken only MMS.

> > > Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks and God bless, Malinda

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Malinda,

I posted earlier to you about how to use MMS for different illnesses...

He should consider using MMS as a maintenance protocol daily for the rest of his

life!

This will not only protect him from a Lyme relapse (hopefully) but will also

keep his

body's pathogen load low... The maintenance dose is 6 drops daily. Any concerns

while over there, he should refer to the list of illnesses I posted earlier...

The basic #1000 protocol is 3 drops hourly for 8 hours or more daily, this would

be good

to use in any emergency... for Malaria, it is 15 drops immediately, then 15

drops again

in 1 - 4 hours...

http://jimhumble.biz/

Also check to see if he can bring 2 four ounce liquid containers on the plane,

if not,

I have a link that I know the MMS is still in powder form (need to add water)

and I

presume the citric acid is probably powder also... I have the link if you need

it..

Take care,

Jim

> >

> > Hello everyone!

> > My son who has been fighting lyme since he was 11 in 2001 has been

symptom-free for ll months now! Although we are extremely happy about that, we

are realists and have been around long enough to know how this ugly disease can

just pop his ugly head back up at just anytime it pleases.

> >

> > However, in the meantime, my son is enjoying life to it's fullest! =) He has

recently consented to go on church missions trip to Tanzania! This is real

Tanzania......sleeping on the ground with the mamba snakes, washing his clothes

in the river, drinking water that they draw from the river (they do have some

sort of purification system), outhouses are a convenience, transportation is

walking and biking. Yea, mom is quite a mess! =( But at the same time I am happy

to see him able to do something he has really longed to do. It is so " him " .

> >

> > Right now he is trying to decide what vaccinations and drugs he will take

for the trip. Nothing is required but there is a list that is strongly

recommended...typhoid, Hep A, Polio, Mumps, Cholera. They also supply

doxycycline to prevent malaria. He doesn't like the idea of putting all this

stuff into him. What if it stirs something up he really doesn't want stirred up.

=( We were wondering if anyone out there has traveled to a third world country

and has taken only MMS.

> > Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks and God bless, Malinda

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Here we have a dillemma , what most people do not know is why they use Rats in cancer studies.Its because rats are predisposed to getting cancer , most rats , when they die it is often from cancer so its natural to use them in cancer studies( The benefit of having a family member who did laboratory studies on animals when i was a kid) Re: OT: vaccines was MMS and traveling Posted by: "musiclady" sueblanton@... sueblanton Date: Wed Jun 6, 2012 6:51 pm ((PDT))One

other thing I forgot to mention is that Royal Rife in the lab was able to inject Cancer into lab rats and make it grow. I wonder what vaccines

grown on Cancerous chicken embryos do to people? "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fullerhttp://www.purposefairy.com/4899/15-powerful-things-happy-people-do-differently/

[Guest guest]

Interesting. Do you simply add it to water or must you add an acid?

> >

> > > **

> > >

> > >

> > > You guys are gonna terrify this poor woman. Her son is 22 years old and

> > > the question was wether he should get the shots not whether he should go.

i

> > > have spent some 18 months in Ghana while Ive had chronic lyme and the

> > > weather only keeps you from getting sick, Im usually there in the spring

> > > and it never came out while I was there. you sweat it right out of you.

> > > This will be a wonderful healing and life expirience for him. The danger

is

> > > the shots, I have heard and felt them have a very bad impact on the body

> > > mind and immune system. But he probably doesnt need any of them anyway.

> > > They should investigate MMS and typhoid, and he should be careful of

> > > mosquitos and mambas. And put the mms in unbreakable containers.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzan ,

You point out precisely the ambivalenc eof the FDA . They are not for us to my opinion they are against us . Now when they forbid somethign I really get interested as it may be some

very effecitive medecine forbidden because of its qualities instead of it s dangers .

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:51 PMSubject: Re: OT: MMS and traveling

One other thing I forgot to mention is that Royal Rife in the lab was able to inject Cancer into lab rats and make it grow. I wonder what vaccines grown on Cancerous chicken embryos do to people?> > >> > > Hello everyone!> > > My son who has been fighting lyme since he was 11 in 2001 has been symptom-free for ll months now! Although we are extremely happy about that, we are realists and have been around long enough to know how this ugly disease can just pop his ugly head back up at just

anytime it pleases.> > > > > > However, in the meantime, my son is enjoying life to it's fullest! =) He has recently consented to go on church missions trip to Tanzania! This is real Tanzania......sleeping on the ground with the mamba snakes, washing his clothes in the river, drinking water that they draw from the river (they do have some sort of purification system), outhouses are a convenience, transportation is walking and biking. Yea, mom is quite a mess! =( But at the same time I am happy to see him able to do something he has really longed to do. It is so "him". > > > > > > Right now he is trying to decide what vaccinations and drugs he will take for the trip. Nothing is required but there is a list that is strongly recommended...typhoid, Hep A, Polio, Mumps, Cholera. They also supply doxycycline to prevent malaria. He doesn't like the idea of putting all this stuff into him. What if it stirs

something up he really doesn't want stirred up. =( We were wondering if anyone out there has traveled to a third world country and has taken only MMS.> > > Any advise would be greatly appreciated.> > > > > > Thanks and God bless, Malinda> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Malinda,

I believe both the MMS and Citric Acid come in dry, you add water to each.

Then to use, one drop (or more) of each mixed together to activate...

This way, he would travel with dry powder and nothing liquid...

Take care,

Jim

> > >

> > > > **

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You guys are gonna terrify this poor woman. Her son is 22 years old and

> > > > the question was wether he should get the shots not whether he should

go. i

> > > > have spent some 18 months in Ghana while Ive had chronic lyme and the

> > > > weather only keeps you from getting sick, Im usually there in the spring

> > > > and it never came out while I was there. you sweat it right out of you.

> > > > This will be a wonderful healing and life expirience for him. The danger

is

> > > > the shots, I have heard and felt them have a very bad impact on the body

> > > > mind and immune system. But he probably doesnt need any of them anyway.

> > > > They should investigate MMS and typhoid, and he should be careful of

> > > > mosquitos and mambas. And put the mms in unbreakable containers.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>