Re: detoxing

[Guest guest]

Hello Kris,

   If you have insurance or lots of money, try everything. I think working on basic d-tox stategies like clean the bowels the simply with more water and psylium seed husk fiber and magnesium. Clear the liver with liver/gb products. Clean the blood with essiac tea. Add garlic and oregano oil possibly gb flush with olive oil. Take cysteine as a glutithione precursor for d-tox by the liver. Maybe some EFT to clear the programming in the brain. Eat more protein for neurotransmitter production (take enzymes because it'll probably be cooked) NMT TBM, NAET, NET, and Pych-K, are all helpful, but so are the basics and you are more fully engaged in healing yourself.

  Take care Mark

 

Another area I am lookng for some guidance is detox. A fellow local Lymie who has taken me under her wing has been very helpful. She has her a specific philosophy. She feels abx will make you feel somewhat better but is really just false security that you will notice drastically when you begin rifing and see how terrible you feel from herxes. She believes that abx's drive the bacteria into cystic form and it will reappear in time...maybe in the form of a new autoimmune disease or similar symptoms you had previously. So she thinks you stop abx and strictly rife, sauna and clear toxins. She sees a naturopath who charges $300/person weekly to clear toxins. $300 x 3 Lymies in my family is a lot of money at the end of the month. She believes we need a naturopath who is trained in NMT (neuromodulation technique) and TBM (total body modification) at the very least because these modalities speed up the process quite a bit. She also feels you need a kinesiologist to muscle test. She also likes a DO to do cranial sacral therapy. Her plan of attack has worked. She was VERY sick for a while. Then Dx'd with Lyme and co's and put on abx for 3 years. Finally she quit abx and went to purely rifing and detoxing. She is 95% finally. She said 1st year of rifing was the hardest. So I'm now trying to figure out how to add in Rifing (not ready to eliminate abx's all together) and improve detoxing. If NMT and TBM are the best and only way to detox then so be it but I haven't read anything thus far on the forum about those 2 ideas. So if not NMT and TBM, what are your best detoxing techniques to ensure the best possible health while going through bacterial die off?

[Guest guest]

Hi Kris,

There are many ways to kill pathogens and many ways to detox. It's nice to be

able to try them all--but please, NOT ALL AT ONCE! Try to keep your daily

routine as " normal " as possible, and just change one thing at a time. Give it

some time to see if it's working before trying something else. I alternate

rifing with antibiotics. It's not usually helpful to do them both at the same

time.

LD is very expensive. Do some research before you spend lots of money on the

best thing for someone else--it may or may not not be the best thing for you.

But there probably is another, cheaper way, that will also work very well for

you.

Khaya

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> > Another area I am lookng for some guidance is detox. A fellow local Lymie

> > who has taken me under her wing has been very helpful. She has her a

> > specific philosophy. She feels abx will make you feel somewhat better but

> > is really just false security that you will notice drastically when you

> > begin rifing and see how terrible you feel from herxes. She believes that

> > abx's drive the bacteria into cystic form and it will reappear in

> > time...maybe in the form of a new autoimmune disease or similar symptoms

> > you had previously. So she thinks you stop abx and strictly rife, sauna and

> > clear toxins. She sees a naturopath who charges $300/person weekly to clear

> > toxins. $300 x 3 Lymies in my family is a lot of money at the end of the

> > month. She believes we need a naturopath who is trained in NMT

> > (neuromodulation technique) and TBM (total body modification) at the very

> > least because these modalities speed up the process quite a bit. She also

> > feels you need a kinesiologist to muscle test. She also likes a DO to do

> > cranial sacral therapy. Her plan of attack has worked. She was VERY sick

> > for a while. Then Dx'd with Lyme and co's and put on abx for 3 years.

> > Finally she quit abx and went to purely rifing and detoxing. She is 95%

> > finally. She said 1st year of rifing was the hardest. So I'm now trying to

> > figure out how to add in Rifing (not ready to eliminate abx's all together)

> > and improve detoxing. If NMT and TBM are the best and only way to detox

> > then so be it but I haven't read anything thus far on the forum about those

> > 2 ideas. So if not NMT and TBM, what are your best detoxing techniques to

> > ensure the best possible health while going through bacterial die off?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Babara,For some humor, I call my low-volume CEs 'crappuccinos'. It's a 'designer thing' that really gives me a lift and a chuckle with my detox. ;-).Be well,Léna

Hi Kris,i've been knowingly fighting lyme since 2007. been on abx 2x and it only made me worse. did rife for bart and babs for 2 yrs, no success. started doing high enemas to clean out the colon (have much constipation) and that helped. then added the coffee enema and saw more improvement. then recently increased the volume of liquid coffee for each enema and started doing it everyday, and now seeing a real difference in the herx length and intensity. so, i'm with lena, the c.e. is a real help, allowing you to killing more and hande it better.

also, have found that magnesium oil foot baths are a real help with symptoms and sleep. the essiac tea for over all detox is also good. you are smart to recognize the importance of detox. wish i had known about it earlier, would have saved me a lot of time in getting better. keep up doing whatever you can towards detox. just remember, the natural, cheap things available to us can sometimes work as good if not better than the expensive 'designer' things offered.

however, if you go the coffee enema route, take it black.barbara

Hello Kris,

If you have insurance or lots of money, try everything. I think working on basic d-tox stategies like clean the bowels the simply with more water and psylium seed husk fiber and magnesium. Clear the liver with liver/gb products. Clean the blood with essiac tea. Add garlic and oregano oil possibly gb flush with olive oil. Take cysteine as a glutithione precursor for d-tox by the liver. Maybe some EFT to clear the programming in the brain. Eat more protein for neurotransmitter production (take enzymes because it'll probably be cooked) NMT TBM, NAET, NET, and Pych-K, are all helpful, but so are the basics and you are more fully engaged in healing yourself.

Take care Mark

Another area I am lookng for some guidance is detox. A fellow local Lymie who has taken me under her wing has been very helpful. She has her a specific philosophy. She feels abx will make you feel somewhat better but is really just false security that you will notice drastically when you begin rifing and see how terrible you feel from herxes. She believes that abx's drive the bacteria into cystic form and it will reappear in time...maybe in the form of a new autoimmune disease or similar symptoms you had previously. So she thinks you stop abx and strictly rife, sauna and clear toxins. She sees a naturopath who charges $300/person weekly to clear toxins. $300 x 3 Lymies in my family is a lot of money at the end of the month. She believes we need a naturopath who is trained in NMT (neuromodulation technique) and TBM (total body modification) at the very least because these modalities speed up the process quite a bit. She also feels you need a kinesiologist to muscle test. She also likes a DO to do cranial sacral therapy. Her plan of attack has worked. She was VERY sick for a while. Then Dx'd with Lyme and co's and put on abx for 3 years. Finally she quit abx and went to purely rifing and detoxing. She is 95% finally. She said 1st year of rifing was the hardest. So I'm now trying to figure out how to add in Rifing (not ready to eliminate abx's all together) and improve detoxing. If NMT and TBM are the best and only way to detox then so be it but I haven't read anything thus far on the forum about those 2 ideas. So if not NMT and TBM, what are your best detoxing techniques to ensure the best possible health while going through bacterial die off?

[Guest guest]

Hi Kris,

I do not know either one either the other .

Let us know i fit is better than a colonics ,

Thank you Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 12:06 AMSubject: detoxing

Another area I am lookng for some guidance is detox. A fellow local Lymie who has taken me under her wing has been very helpful. She has her a specific philosophy. She feels abx will make you feel somewhat better but is really just false security that you will notice drastically when you begin rifing and see how terrible you feel from herxes. She believes that abx's drive the bacteria into cystic form and it will reappear in time...maybe in the form of a new autoimmune disease or similar symptoms you had previously. So she thinks you stop abx and strictly rife, sauna and clear toxins. She sees a naturopath who charges $300/person weekly to clear toxins. $300 x 3 Lymies in my family is a lot of money at the end of the month. She believes we need a naturopath who is trained in NMT (neuromodulation technique) and TBM (total body modification) at the very least because these modalities speed up the process quite a bit. She also feels you need a

kinesiologist to muscle test. She also likes a DO to do cranial sacral therapy. Her plan of attack has worked. She was VERY sick for a while. Then Dx'd with Lyme and co's and put on abx for 3 years. Finally she quit abx and went to purely rifing and detoxing. She is 95% finally. She said 1st year of rifing was the hardest. So I'm now trying to figure out how to add in Rifing (not ready to eliminate abx's all together) and improve detoxing. If NMT and TBM are the best and only way to detox then so be it but I haven't read anything thus far on the forum about those 2 ideas. So if not NMT and TBM, what are your best detoxing techniques to ensure the best possible health while going through bacterial die off?