Guest guest Posted March 20, 2000 Report Share Posted March 20, 2000 The site is NAET.com LuAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2000 Report Share Posted March 20, 2000 He said VERY VERY accurate and it is a blood test I think. As soon as I heard the price tag I knew I couldn't go that way. I haven't had time to even research it yet........grandkids and housework have a way of keeping one away from the computer. He called it AL-CAT and he didn't say exactly where in Florida but I will ask him when he calls with my results. I think the hair test was $150.??? Now that's a whole lot less than $650!! I'm not sure how accurate that one is though. I want the AL-CAT, but I probably will never be able to get it. HUGS:-)) Carol At 03:32 PM 3/19/00 -0600, Gloria M Tate wrote: >Dear Carol, > Is the $650 test a blood test and how accurate is it supposed to be? >How much is the hair test, I wonder? >Gloria >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Thanks for sharing that. I think I will try to have a test done. What kind of doctor does food testing? I had a patch test for environmental allergies when I was a kid, and the derm did it I think. But I don't know who would do foods. I asked my derm and she said it wasn't necessary, but she didn't say much more than that. -------------------------------------------------------------- , Actually the allergy test helped me a great deal. As far as being reliable, it would at least point out foods that you may be having problems with due to Candida. For example, mine did say wheat and sugar and dairy. I did have quite a few other things on my list too like strawberries, garlic, olives, etc. I think these are foods that I wasn't rotating enough, and I may be able to have these again soon. I do have a feeling that when I do get better, I will be able to have these things again, just maybe not all the time like I used to, but the test helped me know what exactly was the problem foods to stay away from. Shoshana .. but the test helped me know what exactly was the problem foods to stay away from. Shoshana .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 Would anyone have > any reccomendations on starting the gfcf diet or go > directly to enzymes and let him eat what he is used > to. He doesn't have typical allergy reactions. Based on your description of the tests, it sounds like he is intolerance of milk/wheat. Enzymes help many kids with intolerances, altho not all. So you can decide whether you want to remove the foods, you might need to even with enzymes, but then you might not. >>Has anyone else seen academic delays or motor > skill delays from a food allergy? Yes, all the time. My husband is > against trying medication for ADHD again (first time > did not go well) Phenols are a prime culprit for ADHD http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Here are a couple of conflicting response from Dr. D'Adamo about allergy testing. http://www.dadamo.com/ask/ask2.pl?20021223.txt= http://www.dadamo.com/ask/ask2.pl?20030412.txt Here is one more about a more unusual type of allergy testing. http://www.dadamo.com/ask/ask2.pl?20021219.txt Don > Does anyone recall what Dr. D'Adamo has said on allergy testing... > that is, aside from dietary elimination, what are some reliable ways > (hopefully inexpensive) to verify whether you're allergic to a > certain food or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Don, I don't see where ER has anything to do with allergies. Would you please explain? Re: Allergy testing > Here are a couple of conflicting response from Dr. D'Adamo about > allergy testing. > > http://www.dadamo.com/ask/ask2.pl?20021223.txt= > > http://www.dadamo.com/ask/ask2.pl?20030412.txt > > > Here is one more about a more unusual type of allergy testing. > > http://www.dadamo.com/ask/ask2.pl?20021219.txt > > > Don > > > > Does anyone recall what Dr. D'Adamo has said on allergy testing... > > that is, aside from dietary elimination, what are some reliable > ways > > (hopefully inexpensive) to verify whether you're allergic to a > > certain food or not? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Thanks - that last one in particular about applied kinesiology was interesting. I see what you mean about 'conflicting'... > > Does anyone recall what Dr. D'Adamo has said on allergy testing... > > that is, aside from dietary elimination, what are some reliable > ways > > (hopefully inexpensive) to verify whether you're allergic to a > > certain food or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 , I am not sure why you are asking me about the relationship between allergies and ER so I am not sure exactly how to answer you. Dr. D'Adamo has addressed many allergy issues on his website and in his books. For type Os with allergy problems avoiding wheat is the most important thing to do because wheat supposedly produces histamines in type Os. As it turns out I have to be careful about consuming very much of even many of the neutral grains. Type Bs and Os have a high risk factor for allergies, with Bs being the highest. ER and general advice I have gotten from the ER website has helped. I was able to stop taking allergy shots 10 months ago. I still have allergy trouble, but it is not as bad as before. If I didn't answer your question I will be glad to try again. Don > Don, > I don't see where ER has anything to do with allergies. Would you please > explain? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 I understand about allergies and ER. What I don't understand is what Epidermolysis Bullosa has to do with allergies. Is it an allergic reaction with the blisters instead of bumps? Re: Allergy testing > , > > I am not sure why you are asking me about the relationship between > allergies and ER so I am not sure exactly how to answer you. > > Dr. D'Adamo has addressed many allergy issues on his website and in > his books. For type Os with allergy problems avoiding wheat is the > most important thing to do because wheat supposedly produces > histamines in type Os. As it turns out I have to be careful about > consuming very much of even many of the neutral grains. Type Bs and > Os have a high risk factor for allergies, with Bs being the highest. > > ER and general advice I have gotten from the ER website has helped. > I was able to stop taking allergy shots 10 months ago. I still have > allergy trouble, but it is not as bad as before. > > If I didn't answer your question I will be glad to try again. > > Don > > > > Don, > > I don't see where ER has anything to do with allergies. Would you > please > > explain? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 (and all): I'd like to hear about your experiences with the allergist! We're in the same boat...my son has food intolerances but he also has true allergy to those same foods. We're on our third allergist because none of them seemed to be able to tell us what to do for . He shows a mild wheal for nearly everything, and it has baffled everyone. I think the key is to find a doctor who knows A LOT about immunology. We have to do the skin testing thing again because it's been a couple of years, and 's got a GI disorder called eosinophilic enteritis (I think it's also referred to as allergic enteropathy). I don't really understand it myself, but I do know that it complicates the food issue! I look forward to hearing about your experience...be sure to post! And I hope you get the results you're looking for. Regards, Lori Getz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 , I'm not sure I can be of too much help, but I'll throw out a few things. First of all, our appointment with a " standard " allergist was one of the most validating to date. He totally " got " the connection between food and behavior, though he doesn't know hardly the first thing about autism. We went there just for allergy testing as ds is allergic to peanuts, but I actually took a deep breath and talked to him about our experiences with enzymes. He was PSYCHED! He said had a clear-cut case of food *intolerance,* (rather than straight allergy) and that I should definitely continue the enzymes. When I hesitantly asked about taking wheat and dairy out of his diet (I was " hiding " the gfcf diet!), he went practically apoplectic. He said, " No way, not based on the success with enzymes you've had! You take out food they're intolerant to and you'll never get it back in! " I discussed the ERISA panel with him as well, and he told me he just really wasn't convinced it was worthwhile. That said, I know that if I had really wanted it at the time, he would have ordered it for me. Of course this is one doc, but I know he was impressed with the research I had done and really respected my observations of my son. I hope and pray you have the same experience. I would just offer that it sounds like your instincts are right on, that if you armed with research that shows the tests you want are valid, you will be respected for that. Good luck. One last thing I'll add. About our allergy testing, which I was totally freaked out about. I mean, I had that done as an adult, and I HATED it. I thought it was horrible and I thought ds was going to FREAK. It turned out that the pricking part wasn't bad. The doc told ds that a caterpillar was going to chew on his arms a little. It was the measuring of the bumps that was a nightmare, for some reason. Boy, he just did NOT like the doc messing with those bumps once they were there. I would say FOR SURE to have a long-sleeve shirt for after the appointment so that he can't see the bumps once the testing is over. Just seeing them upset my little guy. Also, I gave Benedryl right after the testing to help with the itching, etc. The office didn't recommend that, but I felt better giving that than using the steroid cream, which is what they recommended. Good luck with everything. I hope it goes how you visualize. > Hi All! > > I have an appt. for allergy testing for my 3 yr. old ASD son on Thurs., and > I need some help from you all, if you wouldn't mind. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I would recommend the 96 food allergy test by Great Plains labs. Much better than a prick test. We've had both done by the way. spam: Allergy testing > Hi All! > > I have an appt. for allergy testing for my 3 yr. old ASD son on Thurs., > and > I need some help from you all, if you wouldn't mind. > > I know we are slated for the prick testing, 30 panel, I think, which he > needs. However, we would also like food testing done as well, pretty > extensive food allergy testing would be preferrable. I would like to > get, > the IGg ELISHA test, but I've heard that this somewhat controversial. > What > is everyone's experience with allergy testing in general? More > specifically, with the ELISHA test? > > We have grounds for food allergy testing due to other members of the > family > having certain food allergies, but I want to be prepared with research, > etc., to argue for what I want. Any help in this area would be great as > well, such as references to articles, statistics, etc.. > > Let me give you some background, what I know, about the MD. I've heard > that > he is wonderful from our ped., and she hasn't steered me wrong yet, in the > 4 > years we've been going to her. However, he is a " standard " > allergist/immunologist, and from the secretary I talked to, he's had " a > little " experience in treating autistic kids. The importance of him doing > the testing is quite significant, because he in an " in network " provider > for > our insurance company, and I know that whatever testing he submits to them > will automatically be approved and paid for. In my experience, if I start > out dealing with medical professionals in a very friendly, polite, yet > very > informed manner, with observations of iel, then backing it up hard > facts for what I want, yet being open to their suggestions at the same > time, > I am usually successful and getting what I want. > > I so much want for this appt. to be successful in getting all the testing > we > need!! If we don't, our next step is going to a DAN doctor, which I'm > not > against at all, but that is going to mean spending some serious cash, > because I know our insurance doesn't cover it, and we just can't afford > that > right now, and honestly, I don't know when we will be able to afford it > either. > > Don't get me wrong, iel is doing great, as I think I've mentioned. > With the dietary interventions, supps, and enzymes that we've tried this > summer, along with his different therapies, that we've always done, he's > made a lot of progress and continues to do so. I feel like this allergy > testing is a MAJOR piece to this puzzle of certain behaviors related to > his > autism though, and this testing can help him even more, if we can get it > done. That way we know for sure, and we are not guessing all the time, at > " possible allergies. " (We do enough guess work as it is, as I'm sure you > all can relate too!!) > > Sorry this is sooo darn long, but it has helped getting this out there! > > Any and all advice, experiences, words of wisdom, references, bits of > research, etc., is much appreciated!!! Feel free to email me privately, > if > you don't feel comfortable posting on the board. > > Thanks so much for everyones time, effort and help and understanding!! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hi Sharen, My son Leo(4.8)Had had every test that you mentioned and they all came back Negative. He obviously has allergies. Major skin eruptions, vommiting, diarreah etc for most of his life not to mention behavioral issues that seemed to be triggered by the enviroment. After feeling like I was crazy by the comments of many doctors I did more research and found out about P/N testing. Provocation/Neutralization testing. The tests are based off of the hystamine levels. I Knew my sons levels were through the roof from a previous bio-med report. Finds out my son is severely allergic to soy (which I gave him daily btw)and severely allergic to tree pollen as well. He would be sick as a dog every spring. He tested positive for about 60% of all the things he was tested for. Now that I have him on allergy shots and he is off offending foods his bowel movements are normal for the first time in his life!!!! His behavior has improved about 40% and he tells me his tummy doesn't hurt anymore. He even asks me for a shot if I forget to give it to him. He knows how much better he feels. You can read about the testing in the book, " Is this your child? " by Dr. Doris Rapp. That book is like a bible to me. I have read it so many times I just keep it handy to pick up when I need it. I swear the book was written for my son. Environmental allergists are the doctors that you want to look for in your area. I live in Chicago and go to Dr. Mercola's office. If you have any other questions feel free to email me. Good luck, > > Hello all, > > I am just starting out on the bio-med journey and was wondering how many of you have had allergy testing, what kind (IgG, IgE, IgA, skin prick etc), and whether you think it was worthwhile. Did anyone get a negative when it was obviously not negative? Are food allergies and food intolerances the same thing? Sorry for the newbie questions, but like I said, I am just starting out. I get different answers from different Dr's, so I figure this forum is most likely the best source for true information. > > Also, my son's stool test came back -- all neg, for yeast parasites, and bacteria. This was a test done by his regular ped. I am wondering whether this test was truly comprehensive enough. Any thoughts? > > Any insight is much appreciated! > > Sharen > > > --------------------------------- > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Oh - what a beautiful place you live. We have just visited our daughter and family who all live in Cardonald and while we were there, we went to Lochwinnoch and had a wonderful meal at The Hungry Monk. We also visited Duck Bay on Loch Lomond which isn't far away too. We could have met up had I known you lived there. Luv - Sheila Thanks Sheila, I had found 2 of those today while surfing, but one of yours is closer. I'm not too far away from Cardonald, in Lochwinnoch. Cheers Jean " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hi Mo - I have never heard of the 'pulse test' and definitely this sounds interesting. I think we would all be grateful if you could type this up so that we can put it into our FILES so others can benefit from this. Hope you don't mind? Luv - Sheila Last night I was reading my candida cookbook and the author stated that the most reliable method of testing is the pulse test. You can Google it or if you want me to, I can type up for you what she says in my book. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Hi Sharon, I hope that you will be able to put your experiences at the hands of this damaged man behind you, as he was not able to put his experiences behind him- a little empathy goes a long way- we can all try to walk a mile in someone elses shoes. If you are booked in there for more testing then I'm sure you can ask not to see this man again. Subject: allergy testing Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has any experience of allergy testing at Guys Hospital.I had some allergy testing there over 15 years ago and what an awful experience that was!I've had skin prick tests done many times,which I proved 'allergic' to and had the same kind of tests at Guys hospital.Unfortunately for me,my 'consultant' was an ex prisoner of war and what an arse! As I was overweight,he sat there for an hour going on and on about what an awful experience he had and how little food they were given. Best wishes sharon Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 ditto From: jenny stenning <jennystenning@...>Subject: RE: allergy testing"sheila turner" <thyroid treatment >Date: Monday, 23 November, 2009, 15:13 Hi Sharon, I hope that you will be able to put your experiences at the hands of this damaged man behind you, as he was not able to put his experiences behind him- a little empathy goes a long way- we can all try to walk a mile in someone elses shoes. If you are booked in there for more testing then I'm sure you can ask not to see this man again. Subject: [thyroidpatientadvo cacy] allergy testing Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has any experience of allergy testing at Guys Hospital.I had some allergy testing there over 15 years ago and what an awful experience that was!I've had skin prick tests done many times,which I proved 'allergic' to and had the same kind of tests at Guys hospital.Unfortunat ely for me,my 'consultant' was an ex prisoner of war and what an arse! As I was overweight,he sat there for an hour going on and on about what an awful experience he had and how little food they were given. Best wishes sharon Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 My son was 3 when he had the 'SKIN PRICK' test for food allergies. Results were 'NEGATIVE'. He is now 5 yrs old and we would like to know more about the 'INTOLERANCE' testing that can be done as well. (IS IT CALLED THE IEG?). Also, where can a family on 'low income' get this test done? Any help would be greatly appreciated! THANK YOU, Inessa & Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 These kind of allergy tests are not necessarily reliable in individuals with dysfunctional immune systems. on Re: ALLERGY TESTING There are several immunoglobulin tests. IgE, IgM, IgG, and IgA. You can do these yourself through Great PLains Labs. > > My son was 3 when he had the 'SKIN PRICK' test for food allergies. Results were 'NEGATIVE'. > He is now 5 yrs old and we would like to know more about the 'INTOLERANCE' testing that can be done as well. (IS IT CALLED THE IEG?). > > Also, where can a family on 'low income' get this test done? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > THANK YOU, > > Inessa & > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 hi for my own personal experience, if have had the metametrix and the one from red laboratories in belgium, and both have come back the same results for my son and myself and along with a fructose malabsorption hydrogent test, which tested positivemega and we both have dysfunctional immune systems and since eliminating those foods,mega differences. But that is just my experience and these tests were ordered and carried out by a world leading specialist, who not only is a cardiac respiratory specialist, but has been specialising in CFS and immune system dysfunction for the last 20 years and is one of the top researchers in this field. but like all of us you can only go on the advice and information you are given, and make your own choices. From: JOSKAT95@... Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:13:06 -0400 Subject: Re: Re: ALLERGY TESTING These kind of allergy tests are not necessarily reliable in individuals with dysfunctional immune systems. on Re: ALLERGY TESTING There are several immunoglobulin tests. IgE, IgM, IgG, and IgA. You can do these yourself through Great PLains Labs. > > My son was 3 when he had the 'SKIN PRICK' test for food allergies. Results were 'NEGATIVE'. > He is now 5 yrs old and we would like to know more about the 'INTOLERANCE' testing that can be done as well. (IS IT CALLED THE IEG?). > > Also, where can a family on 'low income' get this test done? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > THANK YOU, > > Inessa & > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Hi Kathy, Can you elaborate on this a bit more? If the testing is done through blood serum why would it not be reliable? I do understand that skin scratch tests are not reliable for kids with an immune dysfunction simply because it is only used to detect a histamine response, thus the skin welt or reaction. However, if the immune system is not functioning, it may not necessarily produce histamine. Somehow, I always had more faith in the serum tests thinking the blood doesn't lie??? All the years you have treated your daughter for allergies, was it detected through blood results like IgE, Eosinophils, etc. or was it strictly her reaction to things such as typical watery eyes, stuffy nose, cough, exzema, etc.in addition to what we parents know is behaviour? I appreciate your input as I am REALLY trying to focus on allergies right now, again, still, for my son. Many thanks in advance, Lori _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of JOSKAT95@... Sent: June-23-10 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Re: ALLERGY TESTING These kind of allergy tests are not necessarily reliable in individuals with dysfunctional immune systems. on Re: ALLERGY TESTING There are several immunoglobulin tests. IgE, IgM, IgG, and IgA. You can do these yourself through Great PLains Labs. > > My son was 3 when he had the 'SKIN PRICK' test for food allergies. Results were 'NEGATIVE'. > He is now 5 yrs old and we would like to know more about the 'INTOLERANCE' testing that can be done as well. (IS IT CALLED THE IEG?). > > Also, where can a family on 'low income' get this test done? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > THANK YOU, > > Inessa & > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 hi Lori i am too interested in why Kathy says that it is reliable ok here is the explaination i got off my health care professional IgE skin prick test, which test for an immediate response by the immune system to certain foods etc IgG4 is a blood serum test done for intolerances, which can take upto 72 hours for the immune system to react. hence therefore being unnoticed or the delay in a reaction which can present in numerous ways, depending on the person, like asthma, skin rashes, ezcma etc, due to that time period people dont often associate those things with food intolerances, or the immune system display to those foods. Also what happens with the IgG4 intolerance foods, the body produces blood antigens, and its those antigens that show up in the blood serum tests. now when the body produces those antigens, the TH2 Natural killer cells go into over drive and fight the food antigens, hence the reason our kids are sick etc, because instead of fighting the viruses etc the NKS are fighting the antigens to the food IGGs. now if you are like me and have spent 43 years of eating these foods you will end up with NO th2 NK cells left, yep i have zero, so i have no defence mechanisms any more and i have to try and build up what is left of my th1 to protect myself. you can only find this out thru specific immune system panel tests. we are awaiting results from belgium for my son. also i have to mention that for example my IgG4 to caesin was that severe it hit the limit of a score of 2000, so whilst i am off the dairy it still may take 2 to 3 years for the blood antigens to reach a normal limit, thats why when you test and you have been off, just say dairy for 12 months and you still have antigens, its because it takes the body and the immune system along time to reset. but if you compare the initial results to the new ones there should be a reduction over a period of time. From: lbharris@... Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:22:35 -0400 Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING Hi Kathy, Can you elaborate on this a bit more? If the testing is done through blood serum why would it not be reliable? I do understand that skin scratch tests are not reliable for kids with an immune dysfunction simply because it is only used to detect a histamine response, thus the skin welt or reaction. However, if the immune system is not functioning, it may not necessarily produce histamine. Somehow, I always had more faith in the serum tests thinking the blood doesn't lie??? All the years you have treated your daughter for allergies, was it detected through blood results like IgE, Eosinophils, etc. or was it strictly her reaction to things such as typical watery eyes, stuffy nose, cough, exzema, etc.in addition to what we parents know is behaviour? I appreciate your input as I am REALLY trying to focus on allergies right now, again, still, for my son. Many thanks in advance, Lori _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of JOSKAT95@... Sent: June-23-10 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Re: ALLERGY TESTING These kind of allergy tests are not necessarily reliable in individuals with dysfunctional immune systems. on Re: ALLERGY TESTING There are several immunoglobulin tests. IgE, IgM, IgG, and IgA. You can do these yourself through Great PLains Labs. > > My son was 3 when he had the 'SKIN PRICK' test for food allergies. Results were 'NEGATIVE'. > He is now 5 yrs old and we would like to know more about the 'INTOLERANCE' testing that can be done as well. (IS IT CALLED THE IEG?). > > Also, where can a family on 'low income' get this test done? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > THANK YOU, > > Inessa & > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 I am going by memory here but I think Dr. Goldberg recommends Meridian Labs (from the website). I do not know what the costs is for the IgG Food Sensitivity test. The link to the lab is here:  http://www.meridianvalleylab.com/  I also had an IgE skin prick test done on my oldest son and he showed no food allergies but he did have severe allergies to trees, grass, dustmites and rabbit (we do not eat that). I just had an IgE blood test done for both of my children recently and my oldest son is allergic to cow's milk and my youngest son is allergic to peanut butter. They also showed some allergies (but not too high) for wheat, egg whites, shrimp and corn. I have yet to do an IgG test but may do it in the near future. If anybody knows how much it costs for the 99 food panel test, please let me know. I did not see that on the website.  All the best,  Jill From: Mel J <mel.j@...> Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING nids Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 6:05 PM hi Lori i am too interested in why Kathy says that it is reliable ok here is the explaination i got off my health care professional IgE skin prick test, which test for an immediate response by the immune system to certain foods etc IgG4 is a blood serum test done for intolerances, which can take upto 72 hours for the immune system to react. hence therefore being unnoticed or the delay in a reaction which can present in numerous ways, depending on the person, like asthma, skin rashes, ezcma etc, due to that time period people dont often associate those things with food intolerances, or the immune system display to those foods. Also what happens with the IgG4 intolerance foods, the body produces blood antigens, and its those antigens that show up in the blood serum tests. now when the body produces those antigens, the TH2 Natural killer cells go into over drive and fight the food antigens, hence the reason our kids are sick etc, because instead of fighting the viruses etc the NKS are fighting the antigens to the food IGGs. now if you are like me and have spent 43 years of eating these foods you will end up with NO th2 NK cells left, yep i have zero, so i have no defence mechanisms any more and i have to try and build up what is left of my th1 to protect myself. you can only find this out thru specific immune system panel tests. we are awaiting results from belgium for my son. also i have to mention that for example my IgG4 to caesin was that severe it hit the limit of a score of 2000, so whilst i am off the dairy it still may take 2 to 3 years for the blood antigens to reach a normal limit, thats why when you test and you have been off, just say dairy for 12 months and you still have antigens, its because it takes the body and the immune system along time to reset. but if you compare the initial results to the new ones there should be a reduction over a period of time. From: lbharris@... Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:22:35 -0400 Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING             Hi Kathy, Can you elaborate on this a bit more? If the testing is done through blood serum why would it not be reliable? I do understand that skin scratch tests are not reliable for kids with an immune dysfunction simply because it is only used to detect a histamine response, thus the skin welt or reaction. However, if the immune system is not functioning, it may not necessarily produce histamine. Somehow, I always had more faith in the serum tests thinking the blood doesn't lie??? All the years you have treated your daughter for allergies, was it detected through blood results like IgE, Eosinophils, etc. or was it strictly her reaction to things such as typical watery eyes, stuffy nose, cough, exzema, etc.in addition to what we parents know is behaviour? I appreciate your input as I am REALLY trying to focus on allergies right now, again, still, for my son. Many thanks in advance, Lori _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of JOSKAT95@... Sent: June-23-10 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Re: ALLERGY TESTING These kind of allergy tests are not necessarily reliable in individuals with dysfunctional immune systems. on Re: ALLERGY TESTING There are several immunoglobulin tests. IgE, IgM, IgG, and IgA. You can do these yourself through Great PLains Labs. > > My son was 3 when he had the 'SKIN PRICK' test for food allergies. Results were 'NEGATIVE'. > He is now 5 yrs old and we would like to know more about the 'INTOLERANCE' testing that can be done as well. (IS IT CALLED THE IEG?). > > Also, where can a family on 'low income' get this test done? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > THANK YOU, > > Inessa & > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 when i was saying about it being proven it was in reference to the foods ie IGGs and fructose, ummmm where have i stated the physchiatric disorder in the below post maybe you should read the post From: thecolemans4@... Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:02:14 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: ALLERGY TESTING Well it hasn't been scientifically proven that autism *is* a psychiatric disorder either. The ASA just said hey we need to expand the criteria because there are a lot of kids with just some of this. Where are the studies that say that this inclusion was the same? ________________________________ From: Mel J <mel.j@...> nids Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 4:51:57 PM Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING hi i don't know about what the general thought is in the states, but here in oz, i took my son to a gastro specialist, we did the IGE skin prick test, which showed nothing, i showed her the 140 food group IgG4 panel, which shows intolerances, she told me it was a waste of time and that IgG4s were not a proven or recognised thing blah blah blah blah, and neither was fructose malasorption, yet since being of all these relevant foods my son and myself have made huge progess, i now see a cfs specialist and another dr from beligum who researches and specialises in cfs and that is the first thing they test is the IGGs and for fructose and lactose malasoprtion. i think that the anything new and out of the ordinary, normal western medical science does not want to take it on or it takes a very long time for it to filter thru, as things have to be SCIENCTIFICALLY PROVEN etc etc From: knardini@... Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:09:50 -0700 Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING You are so right. It is so frustrating to me that more doctors don't know more about thus. It's a super long story, but we were literally losing my baby girl due to food intolerances. As shocking as UT sounds, I took her to 17 different doctors in two states. They either could not help, or even made things worse! Two well known pediatric GI specialists were " killing " her. It was horrific. Kristy " Sheri Brown " <eszbibb@...> wrote: >I don't post often but I do try to read as much as I have time for and I am confused by a few things. One why is everyone so hung up on testing for allergies? I have had my daughter tested several times, by several Immunologist, who have all informed me that my daughter is not allergic to anything. The hives all over her body should be proof enough that she is reacting to something. They have all said, " Your child does not have immune dysfunction. " Seriously? I have seen her immune panel and she most certainly does. That being said my child reacts behaviorally to many different foods. She is not allergic she is " sensitive. " You can do all the testing in the world and it can be negative, however, it doesn't change the fact that a child who tests negative can still be reactive to environmental triggers, food triggers, or chemical triggers. I have removed many offending foods from my child's diet that I have tested by removing and then > adding into her diet and I now know which foods cause which behaviors. It was a difficult process but it has worked for us. The result is a much higher functioning child who has a smile on her face and who is enjoyable to be around. I just don't see the hype about testing it proves nothing for my child. But removing the items from her diet have proven to make a huge improvement in all areas. I want to laugh when people say that the GF CF diet is difficult. My daughter is GF/CF/corn free/soy free (to include oils and soy lecithin), preservative free and dye free. When people ask me what I feed her I tell them, real foods such as meat and vegetables and the occasional fruit. No junk, no fast food, no cookies but she is a happy little girl whose tummy no longer hurts her and she doesn't have any more rashes and she is beginning to speak at 9 years of age. >The other interesting topic that I have been reading is about the OSR #1 why can't things that are food based clean out bodies of things that are unwanted? My daughter is sensitive to chemicals and so I use many auturnative cleaning products. I use vinegar, baking soda, olive oil, and lemons which are all food products but highly effective cleaners. >On the flip side some medications that I have taken that are highly effective for others have nearly killed me due to damaging my liver and yet they are FDA approved, even though it is documented that the medication that caused me harm, can cause liver toxicity in some people. Why wouldn't the same be true for supplements? >Sheri > > > > > >From: Mel J <mel.j@...> > >Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING > >nids > >Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 6:05 PM > > > >hi Lori > >i am too interested in why Kathy says that it is reliable > >ok here is the explaination i got off my health care professional > >IgE skin prick test, which test for an immediate response by the immune system to certain foods etc > >IgG4 is a blood serum test done for intolerances, which can take upto 72 hours for the immune system to react. hence therefore being unnoticed or the delay in a reaction which can present in numerous ways, depending on the person, like asthma, skin rashes, ezcma etc, due to that time period people dont often associate those things with food intolerances, or the immune system display to those foods. > >Also what happens with the IgG4 intolerance foods, the body produces blood antigens, and its those antigens that show up in the blood serum tests. now when the body produces those antigens, the TH2 Natural killer cells go into over drive and fight the food antigens, hence the reason our kids are sick etc, because instead of fighting the viruses etc the NKS are fighting the antigens to the food IGGs. now if you are like me and have spent 43 years of eating these foods you will end up with NO th2 NK cells left, yep i have zero, so i have no defence mechanisms any more and i have to try and build up what is left of my th1 to protect myself. you can only find this out thru specific immune system panel tests. > >we are awaiting results from belgium for my son. > >also i have to mention that for example my IgG4 to caesin was that severe it hit the limit of a score of 2000, so whilst i am off the dairy it still may take 2 to 3 years for the blood antigens to reach a normal limit, thats why when you test and you have been off, just say dairy for 12 months and you still have antigens, its because it takes the body and the immune system along time to reset. but if you compare the initial results to the new ones there should be a reduction over a period of time. > > > > > > > > > >From: lbharris@... > >Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:22:35 -0400 > >Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kathy, > > > >Can you elaborate on this a bit more? If the testing is done through blood > > > >serum why would it not be reliable? > > > >I do understand that skin scratch tests are not reliable for kids with an > > > >immune dysfunction simply because it is only used to detect a histamine > > > >response, thus the skin welt or reaction. However, if the immune system is > > > >not functioning, it may not necessarily produce histamine. Somehow, I > > > >always had more faith in the serum tests thinking the blood doesn't lie??? > > > >All the years you have treated your daughter for allergies, was it detected > > > >through blood results like IgE, Eosinophils, etc. or was it strictly her > > > >reaction to things such as typical watery eyes, stuffy nose, cough, exzema, > > > >etc.in addition to what we parents know is behaviour? > > > >I appreciate your input as I am REALLY trying to focus on allergies right > > > >now, again, still, for my son. > > > >Many thanks in advance, > > > >Lori > > > >_____ > > > >From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of > > > >JOSKAT95@... > > > >Sent: June-23-10 6:13 PM > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Re: ALLERGY TESTING > > > >These kind of allergy tests are not necessarily reliable in individuals with > > > >dysfunctional immune systems. > > > > on > > > > Re: ALLERGY TESTING > > > >There are several immunoglobulin tests. IgE, IgM, IgG, and IgA. > > > >You can do these yourself through Great PLains Labs. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> My son was 3 when he had the 'SKIN PRICK' test for food allergies. Results > > > >were 'NEGATIVE'. > > > >> He is now 5 yrs old and we would like to know more about the 'INTOLERANCE' > > > >testing that can be done as well. (IS IT CALLED THE IEG?). > > > >> > > > >> Also, where can a family on 'low income' get this test done? > > > >> > > > >> Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > > >> > > > >> THANK YOU, > > > >> > > > >> Inessa & > > > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 So far, the only definition (I am aware of) for autism is in the DSM, which means the only " official " definition for autism is psychiatric. It does NOT necessarily mean that our kids have what is officially known in the DSM as autism. Does that make sense? Kristy Nardini TazziniTM Stainless Steel Bottles <http://www.tazzini.com/> http://www.tazzini.com kristy@... Phone: 858.243.1929 Fax: 858.724.1418 P Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Re: ALLERGY TESTING Well it hasn't been scientifically proven that autism *is* a psychiatric disorder either. The ASA just said hey we need to expand the criteria because there are a lot of kids with just some of this. Where are the studies that say that this inclusion was the same? ________________________________ From: Mel J <mel.j@... <mailto:mel.j%40live.com.au> > nids <mailto:nids%40> Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 4:51:57 PM Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING hi i don't know about what the general thought is in the states, but here in oz, i took my son to a gastro specialist, we did the IGE skin prick test, which showed nothing, i showed her the 140 food group IgG4 panel, which shows intolerances, she told me it was a waste of time and that IgG4s were not a proven or recognised thing blah blah blah blah, and neither was fructose malasorption, yet since being of all these relevant foods my son and myself have made huge progess, i now see a cfs specialist and another dr from beligum who researches and specialises in cfs and that is the first thing they test is the IGGs and for fructose and lactose malasoprtion. i think that the anything new and out of the ordinary, normal western medical science does not want to take it on or it takes a very long time for it to filter thru, as things have to be SCIENCTIFICALLY PROVEN etc etc <mailto:%40> From: knardini@... <mailto:knardini%40roadrunner.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:09:50 -0700 Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING You are so right. It is so frustrating to me that more doctors don't know more about thus. It's a super long story, but we were literally losing my baby girl due to food intolerances. As shocking as UT sounds, I took her to 17 different doctors in two states. They either could not help, or even made things worse! Two well known pediatric GI specialists were " killing " her. It was horrific. Kristy " Sheri Brown " <eszbibb@... <mailto:eszbibb%40> > wrote: >I don't post often but I do try to read as much as I have time for and I am confused by a few things. One why is everyone so hung up on testing for allergies? I have had my daughter tested several times, by several Immunologist, who have all informed me that my daughter is not allergic to anything. The hives all over her body should be proof enough that she is reacting to something. They have all said, " Your child does not have immune dysfunction. " Seriously? I have seen her immune panel and she most certainly does. That being said my child reacts behaviorally to many different foods. She is not allergic she is " sensitive. " You can do all the testing in the world and it can be negative, however, it doesn't change the fact that a child who tests negative can still be reactive to environmental triggers, food triggers, or chemical triggers. I have removed many offending foods from my child's diet that I have tested by removing and then > adding into her diet and I now know which foods cause which behaviors. It was a difficult process but it has worked for us. The result is a much higher functioning child who has a smile on her face and who is enjoyable to be around. I just don't see the hype about testing it proves nothing for my child. But removing the items from her diet have proven to make a huge improvement in all areas. I want to laugh when people say that the GF CF diet is difficult. My daughter is GF/CF/corn free/soy free (to include oils and soy lecithin), preservative free and dye free. When people ask me what I feed her I tell them, real foods such as meat and vegetables and the occasional fruit. No junk, no fast food, no cookies but she is a happy little girl whose tummy no longer hurts her and she doesn't have any more rashes and she is beginning to speak at 9 years of age. >The other interesting topic that I have been reading is about the OSR #1 why can't things that are food based clean out bodies of things that are unwanted? My daughter is sensitive to chemicals and so I use many auturnative cleaning products. I use vinegar, baking soda, olive oil, and lemons which are all food products but highly effective cleaners. >On the flip side some medications that I have taken that are highly effective for others have nearly killed me due to damaging my liver and yet they are FDA approved, even though it is documented that the medication that caused me harm, can cause liver toxicity in some people. Why wouldn't the same be true for supplements? >Sheri > > > > > >From: Mel J <mel.j@... <mailto:mel.j%40live.com.au> > > >Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING > >nids <mailto:nids%40> > >Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 6:05 PM > > > >hi Lori > >i am too interested in why Kathy says that it is reliable > >ok here is the explaination i got off my health care professional > >IgE skin prick test, which test for an immediate response by the immune system to certain foods etc > >IgG4 is a blood serum test done for intolerances, which can take upto 72 hours for the immune system to react. hence therefore being unnoticed or the delay in a reaction which can present in numerous ways, depending on the person, like asthma, skin rashes, ezcma etc, due to that time period people dont often associate those things with food intolerances, or the immune system display to those foods. > >Also what happens with the IgG4 intolerance foods, the body produces blood antigens, and its those antigens that show up in the blood serum tests. now when the body produces those antigens, the TH2 Natural killer cells go into over drive and fight the food antigens, hence the reason our kids are sick etc, because instead of fighting the viruses etc the NKS are fighting the antigens to the food IGGs. now if you are like me and have spent 43 years of eating these foods you will end up with NO th2 NK cells left, yep i have zero, so i have no defence mechanisms any more and i have to try and build up what is left of my th1 to protect myself. you can only find this out thru specific immune system panel tests. > >we are awaiting results from belgium for my son. > >also i have to mention that for example my IgG4 to caesin was that severe it hit the limit of a score of 2000, so whilst i am off the dairy it still may take 2 to 3 years for the blood antigens to reach a normal limit, thats why when you test and you have been off, just say dairy for 12 months and you still have antigens, its because it takes the body and the immune system along time to reset. but if you compare the initial results to the new ones there should be a reduction over a period of time. > > > > > > > > <mailto:%40> > >From: lbharris@... <mailto:lbharris%40cogeco.ca> > >Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:22:35 -0400 > >Subject: RE: Re: ALLERGY TESTING > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kathy, > > > >Can you elaborate on this a bit more? If the testing is done through blood > > > >serum why would it not be reliable? > > > >I do understand that skin scratch tests are not reliable for kids with an > > > >immune dysfunction simply because it is only used to detect a histamine > > > >response, thus the skin welt or reaction. However, if the immune system is > > > >not functioning, it may not necessarily produce histamine. Somehow, I > > > >always had more faith in the serum tests thinking the blood doesn't lie??? > > > >All the years you have treated your daughter for allergies, was it detected > > > >through blood results like IgE, Eosinophils, etc. or was it strictly her > > > >reaction to things such as typical watery eyes, stuffy nose, cough, exzema, > > > >etc.in addition to what we parents know is behaviour? > > > >I appreciate your input as I am REALLY trying to focus on allergies right > > > >now, again, still, for my son. > > > >Many thanks in advance, > > > >Lori > > > >_____ > > > >From: <mailto:%40> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of > > > >JOSKAT95@... <mailto:JOSKAT95%40aol.com> > > > >Sent: June-23-10 6:13 PM > > > > <mailto:%40> > > > >Subject: Re: Re: ALLERGY TESTING > > > >These kind of allergy tests are not necessarily reliable in individuals with > > > >dysfunctional immune systems. > > > > on > > > > Re: ALLERGY TESTING > > > >There are several immunoglobulin tests. IgE, IgM, IgG, and IgA. > > > >You can do these yourself through Great PLains Labs. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> My son was 3 when he had the 'SKIN PRICK' test for food allergies. Results > > > >were 'NEGATIVE'. > > > >> He is now 5 yrs old and we would like to know more about the 'INTOLERANCE' > > > >testing that can be done as well. (IS IT CALLED THE IEG?). > > > >> > > > >> Also, where can a family on 'low income' get this test done? > > > >> > > > >> Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > > >> > > > >> THANK YOU, > > > >> > > > >> Inessa & > > > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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