Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 She needs to do detective work to try and establish why this is happening. There could be so many reasons eg the high pollen count, gut bugs/gut pain, inconsistencies in the way he is managed by different people, problems in communication, boredom, back ache, headaches etc etc. Margaret > > > Hi everyone, > > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son aged 8 who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting anyone in sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it spurs him on to do more. > > I've suggested she consult with a homeopath but was wondering if there was anything biomedical that she could give him to help. > > Thanks > > Esme > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 How is his sleeping pattern Esme. Any sleep deprivation can lead to this kind of behaviour. Gillian. On 12/5/09 19:56, " Tracey Clewer " <thelifechangers@...> wrote: HOw much sugar or refined carbs is he having? I am a monster if I overdo sugars and have a sharp change in blood sugars- and by constantly feeding the sugar wagon of high and low, I can sustain this monster!! Tracey On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, esmewillcocks <esmewillcocks@...> wrote: Hi everyone, Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son aged 8 who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting anyone in sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it spurs him on to do more. I've suggested she consult with a homeopath but was wondering if there was anything biomedical that she could give him to help. Thanks Esme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Thanks Tracey, will speak to my friend and find out how much sugar and refined carbs he eats. Makes complete sense. Esme > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son aged 8 > > who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting anyone in > > sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it > > spurs him on to do more. > > > > I've suggested she consult with a homeopath but was wondering if there was > > anything biomedical that she could give him to help. > > > > Thanks > > > > Esme > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 He is non-verbal so communication is an issue but he does fully understand everything that you say to him and he answers 'yes' & 'no' by nodding/shaking of the head so my friend would be able to assertain if it was pain causing the aggression. Thanks Margaret, will pass all this on to my friend. Esme > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son aged 8 who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting anyone in sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it spurs him on to do more. > > > > I've suggested she consult with a homeopath but was wondering if there was anything biomedical that she could give him to help. > > > > Thanks > > > > Esme > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi Gillian, I think he sleeps quite well but I'll discuss this with my friend anyway. Many thanks Esme > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son aged 8 who > >> is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting anyone in sight. > >> Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it spurs him on > >> to do more. > >> > >> I've suggested she consult with a homeopath but was wondering if there was > >> anything biomedical that she could give him to help. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Esme > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi Mandi, This behaviour has been going on for a while now, not just around full moons. My friend was thinking along the lines that maybe he might be deficient in something. I'm so new to the biomed world, I couldn't answer her question for her. It's getting so stressfull for her though, she is black and blue. He is only 8 but very very strong and she is a single Mum coping with it alone. Not good. Thanks as always for your valued input. Esme x > > > In a message dated 12/05/2009 19:05:34 GMT Daylight Time, > esmewillcocks@... writes: > > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son aged 8 > who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting anyone in > sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it > spurs him on to do more. > > > > >>There was a full moon last Saturday which often causes impulsive and > aggressive behaviours in my son, did it come on suddenly or has it been a > while? > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Pain is possible. There is a cheap analgesic called Cuprofen Max which is not paracetamol based. Sometimes when my daughter is inexplicably loud and rough I give her one and sometimes it sorts it out. It did yesterday for instance when I think she had period pains (not likely in your case, I know). It's just simple, cheap, can't do any harm and (occasionally) works miracles for me and mine xx Sally esmewillcocks wrote: > > > Hi Mandi, > > This behaviour has been going on for a while now, not just around full > moons. My friend was thinking along the lines that maybe he might be > deficient in something. I'm so new to the biomed world, I couldn't > answer her question for her. It's getting so stressfull for her > though, she is black and blue. He is only 8 but very very strong and > she is a single Mum coping with it alone. Not good. > > Thanks as always for your valued input. > > Esme x > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/05/2009 19:05:34 GMT Daylight Time, > > esmewillcocks@... writes: > > > > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son > aged 8 > > who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting > anyone in > > sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it > > spurs him on to do more. > > > > > > > > >>There was a full moon last Saturday which often causes impulsive and > > aggressive behaviours in my son, did it come on suddenly or has it > been a > > while? > > > > Mandi x > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.329 / Virus Database: 270.12.27/2111 - Release Date: 05/12/09 18:03:00 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Could it be parasites? Gillian On 13/5/09 09:06, " esmewillcocks " <esmewillcocks@...> wrote: Hi Mandi, This behaviour has been going on for a while now, not just around full moons. My friend was thinking along the lines that maybe he might be deficient in something. I'm so new to the biomed world, I couldn't answer her question for her. It's getting so stressfull for her though, she is black and blue. He is only 8 but very very strong and she is a single Mum coping with it alone. Not good. Thanks as always for your valued input. Esme x > > > In a message dated 12/05/2009 19:05:34 GMT Daylight Time, > esmewillcocks@... writes: > > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son aged 8 > who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting anyone in > sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it > spurs him on to do more. > > > > >>There was a full moon last Saturday which often causes impulsive and > aggressive behaviours in my son, did it come on suddenly or has it been a > while? > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Thanks Sally, will forward your suggestion on to my friend. Esme x > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/05/2009 19:05:34 GMT Daylight Time, > > > esmewillcocks@ writes: > > > > > > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son > > aged 8 > > > who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting > > anyone in > > > sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it > > > spurs him on to do more. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>There was a full moon last Saturday which often causes impulsive and > > > aggressive behaviours in my son, did it come on suddenly or has it > > been a > > > while? > > > > > > Mandi x > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.329 / Virus Database: 270.12.27/2111 - Release Date: 05/12/09 18:03:00 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Good idea, will suggest testing to my friend. Esme > >> > > >> > > >> > In a message dated 12/05/2009 19:05:34 GMT Daylight Time, > >> > esmewillcocks@ writes: > >> > > >> > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son aged 8 > >> > who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting anyone in > >> > sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it > >> > spurs him on to do more. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>> > >>There was a full moon last Saturday which often causes impulsive and > >> > aggressive behaviours in my son, did it come on suddenly or has it been a > >> > while? > >> > > >> > Mandi x > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hadn't even thought about food allergies. Knew you guys would come up with some great ideas. I'll suggest testing and also contacting her OT r.e. Wilbarger brushing. Many thanks Esme > > > Hi Esme, > Not BioMed but we found Wilbarger brushing very effective for aggression. Our son had tactile defensive issues and sensory deprivation as a result. Does your friend have access to an OT who could show how to use this very simple and effective technique which initially needs to be done 4-5 x per day so half term would be a good time to start. There was also a food allergy component to our son's agression (tomatoes and red peppers). catherine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I too have sometimes given Henry ibuprofen when I think he's in pain and he's showing signs of distress, but I can't work out what's wrong. Yes, it has sometimes been the right thing to do as he has then calmed down after about half an hour. Margaret > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/05/2009 19:05:34 GMT Daylight Time, > > > esmewillcocks@ writes: > > > > > > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son > > aged 8 > > > who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting > > anyone in > > > sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it > > > spurs him on to do more. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>There was a full moon last Saturday which often causes impulsive and > > > aggressive behaviours in my son, did it come on suddenly or has it > > been a > > > while? > > > > > > Mandi x > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.329 / Virus Database: 270.12.27/2111 - Release Date: 05/12/09 18:03:00 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 On a practical note because it could be any of the things already mentioned or maybe even behavioural, frustration, attention. When goes into full repertoire of rage taking something from him that he values often brings him back to earth, favourite toy or something that should be in a particular place, it kind of regains control and his attention is moved to getting his property back where it belongs and he will only then be concerned with pleasing me and behaving. HTH Vicky > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/05/2009 19:05:34 GMT Daylight Time, > > > > esmewillcocks@ writes: > > > > > > > > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son > > > aged 8 > > > > who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting > > > anyone in > > > > sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it > > > > spurs him on to do more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>There was a full moon last Saturday which often causes impulsive and > > > > aggressive behaviours in my son, did it come on suddenly or has it > > > been a > > > > while? > > > > > > > > Mandi x > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 8.5.329 / Virus Database: 270.12.27/2111 - Release Date: 05/12/09 18:03:00 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi Esme, A couple of things make our son go a bit aggressive - lack of exercise, poor sleep, high B vitamins, corn and constipation. Also, it's always worth keeping a diary of the aggressive behaviours to see if there are escalations around any particular event or day of the week, etc. Sometimes when dealing with challenging behaviours it's difficult to see the forest for the trees but looking back over a diary of escalations can suddenly make the picture fall into place. Good luck to your friend, Darla 2009/5/13 Mark <editorial.hillbury@...> Could it be parasites?GillianOn 13/5/09 09:06, " esmewillcocks " <esmewillcocks@...> wrote: Hi Mandi,This behaviour has been going on for a while now, not just around full moons. My friend was thinking along the lines that maybe he might be deficient in something. I'm so new to the biomed world, I couldn't answer her question for her. It's getting so stressfull for her though, she is black and blue. He is only 8 but very very strong and she is a single Mum coping with it alone. Not good. Thanks as always for your valued input.Esme x >> > In a message dated 12/05/2009 19:05:34 GMT Daylight Time, > esmewillcocks@... writes:> > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son aged 8 > who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting anyone in > sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it > spurs him on to do more.> > > > >>There was a full moon last Saturday which often causes impulsive and > aggressive behaviours in my son, did it come on suddenly or has it been a > while?> > Mandi x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi Esme, A couple of things make our son go a bit aggressive - lack of exercise, poor sleep, high B vitamins, corn and constipation. Also, it's always worth keeping a diary of the aggressive behaviours to see if there are escalations around any particular event or day of the week, etc. Sometimes when dealing with challenging behaviours it's difficult to see the forest for the trees but looking back over a diary of escalations can suddenly make the picture fall into place. Good luck to your friend, Darla 2009/5/13 Mark <editorial.hillbury@...> Could it be parasites?GillianOn 13/5/09 09:06, " esmewillcocks " <esmewillcocks@...> wrote: Hi Mandi,This behaviour has been going on for a while now, not just around full moons. My friend was thinking along the lines that maybe he might be deficient in something. I'm so new to the biomed world, I couldn't answer her question for her. It's getting so stressfull for her though, she is black and blue. He is only 8 but very very strong and she is a single Mum coping with it alone. Not good. Thanks as always for your valued input.Esme x >> > In a message dated 12/05/2009 19:05:34 GMT Daylight Time, > esmewillcocks@... writes:> > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son aged 8 > who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting anyone in > sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it > spurs him on to do more.> > > > >>There was a full moon last Saturday which often causes impulsive and > aggressive behaviours in my son, did it come on suddenly or has it been a > while?> > Mandi x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Thank you Darla and to everyone who very kindly replied. I have sent all your great suggestions/ideas on to my friend. No doubt she'll get through this tricky period, but she really is suffering in the meantime. Poor thing. Esme > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/05/2009 19:05:34 GMT Daylight Time, > > > esmewillcocks@ writes: > > > > > > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son aged > > 8 > > > who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting anyone > > in > > > sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it > > > spurs him on to do more. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>There was a full moon last Saturday which often causes impulsive and > > > aggressive behaviours in my son, did it come on suddenly or has it been a > > > > > while? > > > > > > Mandi x > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Esme, I don't know if this has been covered but there is also a link between aggression and adrenal function. I think it's low cortisol and aggression. esmewillcocks schrieb: > > > Thank you Darla and to everyone who very kindly replied. I have sent > all your great suggestions/ideas on to my friend. No doubt she'll get > through this tricky period, but she really is suffering in the > meantime. Poor thing. > > Esme > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/05/2009 19:05:34 GMT Daylight Time, > > > > esmewillcocks@ writes: > > > > > > > > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD > son aged > > > 8 > > > > who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting > anyone > > > in > > > > sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's > as if it > > > > spurs him on to do more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>There was a full moon last Saturday which often causes > impulsive and > > > > aggressive behaviours in my son, did it come on suddenly or has > it been a > > > > > > > while? > > > > > > > > Mandi x > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 30/04/2009 17:53 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Agression for us is always clostridia.. symptoms reduce within days wwhen we tackel clostridia.. Flagyl/ up probiotics etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hi Esme, I noticed my son become quite aggresive and bad-tempered quite recently and realised that I had removed B6. Supplementing again with Super-nu-thera which has high dose B6 did the trick. B6 can also be bought quite cheaply at Holland & Barratt. There is a lot of research linking B6 deficiency to aggression. You also mention that he is looking for a reaction from his aggression, this may suggest attention seeking behaviour. It may be wise to see what triggers the aggression and tackle that before the behaviour escalates. Always motivate good behaviour by rewarding it and always ignore bad behaviour. Reacting to a bad behaviour reenforces it, causing it to occur again. Best of luck to your friend! June x > > He is non-verbal so communication is an issue but he does fully understand everything that you say to him and he answers 'yes' & 'no' by nodding/shaking of the head so my friend would be able to assertain if it was pain causing the aggression. Thanks Margaret, will pass all this on to my friend. > > Esme > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Wondered if anyone might be able to help. My friend has an ASD son aged 8 who is going through a very aggressive stage. Hitting and biting anyone in sight. Definitely likes getting a very negative reaction, it's as if it spurs him on to do more. > > > > > > I've suggested she consult with a homeopath but was wondering if there was anything biomedical that she could give him to help. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Esme > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Hi, All children are different and what worked for us might not work for you. When we got Maddie at the age of 4, she was very aggresive (biting, hiting, punching, etc). I used 1-2-3 Magic on Maddie for everything, but for anything that hurt someone else or herself I automatically put her in timeout. We started timouts at 1 minute until she would sit and then I raised it by 30 seconds until we were at 4 minutes (took forever!). But it only took me about 3 to 4 months for her to start to realize if she hurt someone she was going to the chair. At first she would hit and then take off for her room to "hide" but I would find her and put her in the chair which she hated. She would tell me "Maddie don't like that." I would explain well Jordan or Destiny (whoever she was hurting) doesn't like being hit/bit, etc. She eventually stopped it. She would still get mad and scream but we worked on "talking about her feelings" (took another 2 years), but she does really well with issues like that (she's 13). Good luck! Rhonda From: bashful373 <bashful373@...>Subject: Aggressionautism Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 8:42 AM Hey all,What has helped you with aggression? I'm at my wits end with Isaiah (age 4 1/2). He deliberately kicks, pushes or pulls his siblings' hair, and I'm on the brink of clawing the walls over it. He may not understand what he is doing, but I see red everytime I witness him hurting his siblings. DH and i had a long talk this morning while he was driving to work. Isaiah will see the psychiatrist this Thursday. I can't tell you how anxious I am to get him to his appointment. This is the hard part with autism for me. Today is the first weekday after school ended for the year. I'm dreading the summer but we've got him enrolled in a few things to help tie us over until school starts again. Input please, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 My son is 14 so I feel your pain. Some OT helps at times- have you tried any behavior plans using points?- many parents have differing opinions on meds but I had no choice at age 9. How was the appointment with the psychiatrist? Rhonda > > Hey all, > > What has helped you with aggression? I'm at my wits end with Isaiah (age 4 1/2). He deliberately kicks, pushes or pulls his siblings' hair, and I'm on the brink of clawing the walls over it. He may not understand what he is doing, but I see red everytime I witness him hurting his siblings. DH and i had a long talk this morning while he was driving to work. > > Isaiah will see the psychiatrist this Thursday. I can't tell you how anxious I am to get him to his appointment. This is the hard part with autism for me. Today is the first weekday after school ended for the year. I'm dreading the summer but we've got him enrolled in a few things to help tie us over until school starts again. > > Input please, thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 My son is 14 so I feel your pain. Some OT helps at times- have you tried any behavior plans using points?- many parents have differing opinions on meds but I had no choice at age 9. How was the appointment with the psychiatrist? Rhonda > > Hey all, > > What has helped you with aggression? I'm at my wits end with Isaiah (age 4 1/2). He deliberately kicks, pushes or pulls his siblings' hair, and I'm on the brink of clawing the walls over it. He may not understand what he is doing, but I see red everytime I witness him hurting his siblings. DH and i had a long talk this morning while he was driving to work. > > Isaiah will see the psychiatrist this Thursday. I can't tell you how anxious I am to get him to his appointment. This is the hard part with autism for me. Today is the first weekday after school ended for the year. I'm dreading the summer but we've got him enrolled in a few things to help tie us over until school starts again. > > Input please, thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Hi, I know Maddie was very aggressive with kids her own age and younger when we adopted her (she was 4). I used the program 1-2-3 Magic on her (it's a timeout program). We just kept explaining to her over and over that she was "hurting" them and they were sad/angry, etc. We would tell her 1 don't do whatever or she would get a time out and if she got to 3 she went to time out. (We started w/ 1 minute and worked up. I still use a visual timer for her to see.) If she was physically hurting someone or putting herself/others at risk it was an automatic timeout. I don't think she realized till much later about other's feelings, BUT she didn't like the response when she did those things and she stopped. It was kind of comical because she would go to hit and stop and shake her head and say no timeout. Maddie be nice and would walk away.. It took us probably at least 6 months, but it worked. I know a lot of parents around here argued I shouldn't use the program because she didn't understand, not effective, etc. but I learned very early on she understands more than we give her credit for. (She is very manipulative!) Plus it gave me the opporutnity to work on cause and effect which is wonderful for chores (you make your bed, you get money. You have money you buy what you want, etc.) Also as she got a little older we worked on her feelings and other's feelings. It was a very long process and you have to do it every time they hurt someone. I know that program doesn't work with all kids, but it worked wonders for Maddie. Even now we have to use it for some schooling (math) because she is will choose to not get a reward as long as she can skip math. But if she is going to a timeout, she will do math. (Took us 3 years to figure that one out!) It also works good when we take her out in public; if she is doing something that isn't appropriate, all I have to do is lay my hand on her arm and show her a 1 (or 2) and she stops immediately. Now I do have to recognize the difference between her being "bad" versus having a meltdown because the situation is too stimulating for her. But after all these years I recognize it pretty fast:) I hope you find something that works! Rhonda From: rhondasavain <rhondasavain@...>Subject: Re: Aggressionautism Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 11:31 PM My son is 14 so I feel your pain. Some OT helps at times- have you tried any behavior plans using points?- many parents have differing opinions on meds but I had no choice at age 9. How was the appointment with the psychiatrist? Rhonda>> Hey all,> > What has helped you with aggression? I'm at my wits end with Isaiah (age 4 1/2). He deliberately kicks, pushes or pulls his siblings' hair, and I'm on the brink of clawing the walls over it. He may not understand what he is doing, but I see red everytime I witness him hurting his siblings. DH and i had a long talk this morning while he was driving to work. > > Isaiah will see the psychiatrist this Thursday. I can't tell you how anxious I am to get him to his appointment. This is the hard part with autism for me. Today is the first weekday after school ended for the year. I'm dreading the summer but we've got him enrolled in a few things to help tie us over until school starts again. > > Input please, thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I agree Rhonda it is a great program...I still use it with Lily --- I know she's a bit old but it is what continues to work so I'm sticking to it.... I think it will be good for john after a little more cognitive development... Love and Logic is another good one.... e From: Rhonda Irvin <rhondarvn@...>autism Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:06:27 PMSubject: Re: Re: Aggression Hi, I know Maddie was very aggressive with kids her own age and younger when we adopted her (she was 4). I used the program 1-2-3 Magic on her (it's a timeout program). We just kept explaining to her over and over that she was "hurting" them and they were sad/angry, etc. We would tell her 1 don't do whatever or she would get a time out and if she got to 3 she went to time out. (We started w/ 1 minute and worked up. I still use a visual timer for her to see.) If she was physically hurting someone or putting herself/others at risk it was an automatic timeout. I don't think she realized till much later about other's feelings, BUT she didn't like the response when she did those things and she stopped. It was kind of comical because she would go to hit and stop and shake her head and say no timeout. Maddie be nice and would walk away.. It took us probably at least 6 months, but it worked. I know a lot of parents around here argued I shouldn't use the program because she didn't understand, not effective, etc. but I learned very early on she understands more than we give her credit for. (She is very manipulative! ) Plus it gave me the opporutnity to work on cause and effect which is wonderful for chores (you make your bed, you get money. You have money you buy what you want, etc.) Also as she got a little older we worked on her feelings and other's feelings. It was a very long process and you have to do it every time they hurt someone. I know that program doesn't work with all kids, but it worked wonders for Maddie. Even now we have to use it for some schooling (math) because she is will choose to not get a reward as long as she can skip math. But if she is going to a timeout, she will do math. (Took us 3 years to figure that one out!) It also works good when we take her out in public; if she is doing something that isn't appropriate, all I have to do is lay my hand on her arm and show her a 1 (or 2) and she stops immediately. Now I do have to recognize the difference between her being "bad" versus having a meltdown because the situation is too stimulating for her. But after all these years I recognize it pretty fast:) I hope you find something that works! Rhonda From: rhondasavain <rhondasavain>Subject: Re: AggressionAutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 11:31 PM My son is 14 so I feel your pain. Some OT helps at times- have you tried any behavior plans using points?- many parents have differing opinions on meds but I had no choice at age 9. How was the appointment with the psychiatrist? Rhonda>> Hey all,> > What has helped you with aggression? I'm at my wits end with Isaiah (age 4 1/2). He deliberately kicks, pushes or pulls his siblings' hair, and I'm on the brink of clawing the walls over it. He may not understand what he is doing, but I see red everytime I witness him hurting his siblings. DH and i had a long talk this morning while he was driving to work. > > Isaiah will see the psychiatrist this Thursday. I can't tell you how anxious I am to get him to his appointment. This is the hard part with autism for me. Today is the first weekday after school ended for the year. I'm dreading the summer but we've got him enrolled in a few things to help tie us over until school starts again. > > Input please, thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 My 5yo just went through this stage the last 2 weeks too! He went through it at 4 also. I stopped all supplements for a few days and started giving him GSE for yeast. I don't see much side effects like I did before, but the last few days, he's been OK (knock on wood). And I would talk about his behavior when he's in a good mood to make sure he knows what he's doing is wrong. Sorry probably not much help. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:07 AM, minniemay67 <minniemay67@...> wrote: > Help! My son who is 6 has become very aggressive the last two weeks. Can > someone give me advice on this. If he doesn't like what I tell him he tries > to kick or scratch me. > > Please help > > Annette > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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