Die Off

[Guest guest]

Thanks Robin,

Currently I'm taking all the popular anti fungals. Is this the way to do it ? Or

is rotating them every week more beneficial. I've read conflicting information.

[ ] die off

I'm one week on the program. If the die off symptoms are too

overwhelming and I lower the dosage does that just prolong the

recovery ?

[Guest guest]

Rotate. Take them one at a time for five days each. Slow. I'm predicting the

tortoise beats the hare in the case of candida.

_____

From: brianflynn3@... [mailto:brianflynn3@...]

Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 11:18 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] die off

Thanks Robin,

Currently I'm taking all the popular anti fungals. Is this the way to do it

? Or is rotating them every week more beneficial. I've read conflicting

information.

[ ] die off

I'm one week on the program. If the die off symptoms are too

overwhelming and I lower the dosage does that just prolong the

recovery ?

[Guest guest]

I personally have been equating my die off to stress

times. It never fails to happen when I get stressed

out. I was told that the lactic acid increases and

gets into my muscles, flaring up the fibromyaglia and

then the fatique kicks in. That's my 2 cents worth!

:-))

Keep pressing on................

Mel

--- Saranam <wsaranam@...> wrote:

>

> Does anyone know how long die off can last for? I'm

> sure it is

> different for every person...I guess I'm wondering

> what might be

> normal for a not so terribly bad candida overgrowth.

>

>

> I've been doing ozone therapy for about 2 weeks,

> along with anti-

> fungals/immune boosters and diet. My symptoms have

> definitely gotten

> worse than they were when I was doing the diet and

> anti-

> fungals/boosters alone, but are not too terribly

> bad...just more

> itching and a whiter tongue..nothing like they were

> when I was

> eating sugar. I'm assuming this is die off. I feel

> depressed though

> when I think that it may not be working. I don't

> know how this could

> be. I keep reading on this list about die off...I

> guess I just need

> some reassurance. Sorry for being a pain.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Sonya wrote:

> Once some of the candida die off, can they multiply again? In other

>words, will they keep dying then multiplying then dying again.....

They can multiply again and will keep on multiplying until your

immune system is able to keep it under control. It's a balancing act

and a fight between three things: 1. cutting off candida's food

supply, 2) killing candida off, and 3) planting good bacteria. At

some point you will win the fight will not longer have candida

symptoms. You aren't trying to get rid of " all " the candida because

in its normal state it belongs in the mucus membranes and has a job

to do. You are also trying to get your immune system to handle it,

and the three things help it, but the diet, supplements and other

helpful treatments also help it.

Candida overgrowth can easily return in the future. I had a

reoccurence last year, due to tremendous stress (after being free of

it for 18 years - lo?). But it didn't take me long to get control

over it again, especially after I was laid off my job.

Take good care,

Bee

[Guest guest]

Dear Jack,

There is an excellent description of Die-off Symptoms " in the Files.

Some people do not experience a lot of die-off symptoms. Just know

you are doing everything you should to cure the candida and it will

be effective.

The best,

Bee

> Can someone describe to me typical 'Die Off' Symptoms. What are

they like? When do they occurr, how long do they last. I have not

felt anything dramatic, and am curious if I am doing something wrong?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cherie. What specifically do you mean by die-off? Do you mean the

die-off of parasites on the various cleanses? Cheers,

> Has anyone had any experience with symptoms of die off? If so what are

> the remedies to help with the symptoms? And what kind of symptoms are

> we talking about?

>

> Thanks,

> Cherie

[Guest guest]

Hi Cherie,

Die-off from parasites? I had some effects of die-off

- being slight anxiety, and feeling a little spaced

out. It really helps to drink lots of water - I

wasn't drinking quite enough and with die-off comes

added toxins being released in your body so if you

aren't drinking enough water the symptoms can be

worse.

--- Harvey <pharvey_1951@...> wrote:

> Hi Cherie. What specifically do you mean by die-off?

> Do you mean the

> die-off of parasites on the various cleanses?

> Cheers,

>

>

> > Has anyone had any experience with symptoms of die

> off? If so what are

> > the remedies to help with the symptoms? And what

> kind of symptoms are

> > we talking about?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Cherie

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I don't mean to be dumb , but what are the digestive enzymes I am to be

taking right now? I do drink a lot of lemon water.

Faith

In a message dated 8/30/2005 9:47:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

morningsunranch@... writes:

Faith,

DId you talk to ?? The drugs can be in your system forever if you don

t cleanse them out. Your body is mightly powerful when given what it needs.

You need to just be doing the digestive enzymes right now and nothing else

and the enemas. Are you drinking filtered water, add lemon will help. I am

going to send info on liver detox, since you only have one kidney I am sure

this is a factor.

-------Original Message-------

From: Faith

Date: 08/30/05 02:10:34

candidiasis

Subject: Die off

Forgot to mention that I am feeling lightheaded, muscles in neck are

tightening up. Please, did anyone else get any of these symptoms?

Thanks,

Faith

[Guest guest]

Hello Faith,

I had the same sympotms, in addition, I had same horrible pressure in the neck

with vertigo, nauseas and diarrhea. The rest was absolutely the same you have.

It last for 10 days, now I feel much better. You should drink a plenty of water

and try to relax (I know it sounds difficult now, but this part is the most

important). Also do same kind of exercises (walk, for example, but with someone

close to you who makes you feel good), or whatever you can do in this condition,

it is important that oxygen enters to you blood. Don't be too much nervous,

those are normal symptoms of die off with maybe mixt of some food alergy. The

major problem, in fact, is anxiety because makes the symptoms worsen than they

are.

All the best,

Maja

Faith <Faithiegirl538@...> escribió:

Forgot to mention that I am feeling lightheaded, muscles in neck are

tightening up. Please, did anyone else get any of these symptoms?

Thanks,

Faith

[Guest guest]

Faith,

DId you talk to ?? The drugs can be in your system forever if you don

t cleanse them out. Your body is mightly powerful when given what it needs.

You need to just be doing the digestive enzymes right now and nothing else

and the enemas. Are you drinking filtered water, add lemon will help. I am

going to send info on liver detox, since you only have one kidney I am sure

this is a factor.

-- Die off

Forgot to mention that I am feeling lightheaded, muscles in neck are

tightening up. Please, did anyone else get any of these symptoms?

Thanks,

Faith

[Guest guest]

Faith, I am responding to you privately.

-- Die off

Forgot to mention that I am feeling lightheaded, muscles in neck are

tightening up. Please, did anyone else get any of these symptoms?

Thanks,

Faith

[Guest guest]

Hi Faith,

I must say I am very ignorant about Benzo, but I did a quick google

search and found the following link, where they say benzo's withdrawl

symptoms can last up to several years but they are not permament.

http://www.benzoliberty.com/information/profashton.php

from the site http://www.benzoliberty.com/ .

It's always hard to say what kinds of die-off symptoms may be going on

in a certain person (everyone's different!), but if you have had these

feelings before, it could be that some of the old remaining substances

(from candida or benzo) are now getting cleared out from tissues more

efficiently, thereby overwhelming your colon and kidneys from moving

them out of your body - so they build up and give you a reaction again.

Like someone else said, enemas and colonics may help clean out your

system. Drink lots of water!! Vitamin C can help as well, regardless

of the particular symptom.

I wouldn't panic or get upset if I were you, just relax, try to ride

out the day best you can, book a cleansing or buy a kit, and see how

you feel tomorrow.

Did you eat chinese or thai food? Could also be MSG or peanut related!

Or if you've been in a moldy location, used oil paints, sniffed

gasoline, new pet in the last day or two -- all of these could be

possible causes.

p.s. I've gotten lightheadedness and palpitations before with and

without the candida related problems. It could just be anxiety

related. My neck muscles always tighten up when I eat something that

I'm allergic to, and I get a burning in my shoulder blade. During the

parasite cleanse die-off, my light-headedness, joint pains and muscle

burning feeling were at an all-time high. It took about 5 days to get

over it.

All the best,

Asli

--- Faith <Faithiegirl538@...> wrote:

> Forgot to mention that I am feeling lightheaded, muscles in neck are

> tightening up. Please, did anyone else get any of these symptoms?

>

> Thanks,

> Faith

[Guest guest]

> I don't mean to be dumb , but what are the digestive enzymes I

>am to be

> taking right now? I do drink a lot of lemon water.

For what it's worth, Faith, some people on native-

nutrition have reported intestinal damage from taking

proteases on an empty stomach. Some believe that this will destroy

intestinal overgrowths, but others believe that the enzymes will digest

the body's own tissue, and at least one person personally experienced

this damage.

Chris

[Guest guest]

With all the research I have done and doctors I have listened to I have

never heard this. Here are some comments from 2 different websites

http://www.enzymestuff.com/faq.htm

8. Will enzymes digest my mouth, stomach, or intestines?

If this were true, the enzymes produced by your own body would have already

digested you away. These enzymes much prefer the denatured (cooked or

damaged) proteins found in foods. Most proteins, in their healthy state, are

coiled and globular in structure. This prevents the enzymes from having

access to cleavage sites. When heated or in extremes of pH (like stomach

acid), the proteins uncoil, exposing sites where the enzyme can bind and

cleave.

Also, the cells of our bodies and the mucosal lining of the gastrointestinal

tract contain protease inhibitors that inactivate certain protease enzymes.

The mucosal layer acts as a physical barrier to proteolytic activity on

living cells. The pancreas exposes your small intestine to a barrage of

enzymes every time you eat, and the enzymes do not break down the intestine.

If enzyme powder remains on the lips or gums for a prolonged time, it may

break down some of the layer of dead cells that covers our mouth and throat

(the whitish-colored layer). When the fresh, raw layer of tissue comes into

contact with saliva, the person may feel slight irritation. If you open a

capsule to mix it with food, make sure you drink something afterwards to

wash any enzyme residue down. Because amylase is in saliva, you have a

constant supply of enzymes in your mouth all the time anyway.

http://www.enzymeessentials.com/HTML/proteases.html

Oral proteases taken on an empty stomach have been shown to be absorbed and

carried into the blood stream where they are bound to Alpha2-macroglobulin.

The binding of the Alpha2-macroglobulin to proteases does not inactivate the

proteolytic activity of the protease. However, the complexing of the

Alpha2-macroglobulin ensures the clearance of the protease from the organism

Several studies have indicated that oral proteases bound to the

macroglobulins hydrolyze immune complexes, proteinaceous debris, damaged

proteins, and acute phase plasma proteins in the blood stream' It is

suggested that oral proteases may help hydrolyze and remove extra cellular

proteins damaged by free radicals, which are especially susceptible to

proteolysis, as mentioned above.

-------Original Message-------

From: chrismasterjohn

For what it's worth, Faith, some people on native-

nutrition have reported intestinal damage from taking

proteases on an empty stomach. Some believe that this will destroy

intestinal overgrowths, but others believe that the enzymes will digest

the body's own tissue, and at least one person personally experienced

this damage.

Chris

[Guest guest]

On 9/1/05, Kindscher (Charter) <morningsunranch@...> wrote:

> With all the research I have done and doctors I have listened to I have

> never heard this. Here are some comments from 2 different websites

Hi ,

I don't know how serious the risk of harm is, or whether the harm done

was properly attributed, but I've heard this from numerous people and

the concern seems to be fairly widespread.

I'll make a few comments below.

> http://www.enzymestuff.com/faq.htm

> 8. Will enzymes digest my mouth, stomach, or intestines?

>

> If this were true, the enzymes produced by your own body would have already

> digested you away.

That's silly. The body makes all kinds of enzyme inhibitors precisely

to prevent damage to tissues, and deficiencies of these inhibitors

results in the destruction of healthy tissue. The body highly

regulates its own enzyme activity, and does not release enzymes in the

digestive tract when digestion of food is not taking place.

By the way, I ate a half a raw pineapple a few days ago, and my tongue

and mouth felt like I'd burnt myself on hot soup. I'm pretty sure

that was a result of tissue damage from the enzymes. I don't think it

did any serious damage, but it demonstrates the point (that should

actually be obvious) that enzymes can digest body tissues.

> These enzymes much prefer the denatured (cooked or

> damaged) proteins found in foods. Most proteins, in their healthy state,

> are

> coiled and globular in structure. This prevents the enzymes from having

> access to cleavage sites. When heated or in extremes of pH (like stomach

> acid), the proteins uncoil, exposing sites where the enzyme can bind and

> cleave.

This is wrong on several counts. First, only metabolic proteins are

globular in their native state. All structural proteins in the living

cells are natually filament-shaped.

Second, the idea that enzymes cannot digest globular proteins is

preposterous. Sure, it might be more difficult, but enzymes digest

EACH OTHER. This is why enzymes in lab preparations are kept frozen,

because at room temperature they will quickly self-destruct, digesting

each other.

> Also, the cells of our bodies and the mucosal lining of the

> gastrointestinal

> tract contain protease inhibitors that inactivate certain protease enzymes.

> The mucosal layer acts as a physical barrier to proteolytic activity on

> living cells. The pancreas exposes your small intestine to a barrage of

> enzymes every time you eat, and the enzymes do not break down the

> intestine.

This is true, but that mucosal layer is also produced in response to

eating and the production of acid and enzymes! Taking enzymes on an

empty stomach will not elicit the protective mucus response like

eating food will.

> If enzyme powder remains on the lips or gums for a prolonged time, it may

> break down some of the layer of dead cells that covers our mouth and throat

> (the whitish-colored layer). When the fresh, raw layer of tissue comes into

> contact with saliva, the person may feel slight irritation. If you open a

> capsule to mix it with food, make sure you drink something afterwards to

> wash any enzyme residue down. Because amylase is in saliva, you have a

> constant supply of enzymes in your mouth all the time anyway.

I believe the concern is about proteases, not amylases. I'm not sure

how true it is that the amylase concentration in saliva is " constant. "

In fact, I very much doubt that it is.

> http://www.enzymeessentials.com/HTML/proteases.html

> Oral proteases taken on an empty stomach have been shown to be absorbed

> and

> carried into the blood stream where they are bound to Alpha2-macroglobulin.

> The binding of the Alpha2-macroglobulin to proteases does not inactivate

> the

> proteolytic activity of the protease. However, the complexing of the

> Alpha2-macroglobulin ensures the clearance of the protease from the

> organism

> Several studies have indicated that oral proteases bound to the

> macroglobulins hydrolyze immune complexes, proteinaceous debris, damaged

> proteins, and acute phase plasma proteins in the blood stream' It is

> suggested that oral proteases may help hydrolyze and remove extra cellular

> proteins damaged by free radicals, which are especially susceptible to

> proteolysis, as mentioned above.

Yes, I've read this before, and that appears to be a benefit of taking

proteases on an empty stomach. However, this doesn't speak to the

risk of tissue damage. The fact that some of the protease is

complexed doesn't mean that some of it isn't doing tissue damage.

Again, I've talked to several people who expressed this concern and

one who apparently had considerable intestinal damage from this

practice that recovered after she stopped the usage.

I am not claiming to know that it is harmful. I'm just suggesting

that one should be aware of the concern before embarking on such a

treatment plan. I personally wouldn't risk it, since I don't see any

major importance of doing it. I would think that if one were to take

an enzyme on an empty stomach with would be a protease-free cellulase

for candida, which I don't think would harm any endogenous material.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

Hi

I guess I have not spent that much time really researching all the many ways

that enzyme supplementation can go wrong. I have used them for years as well

as family. My bowels and digestion were a mess prior and now really good. I

think almost anything in this world will cause problems for some. Even some

babies are allergic to their own mothers breast milk. All of the Naturopath

s I consult with have never mentioned any concern over this problem. I don

t know how one can prove the damage if any is caused by the enzymes. It

would seem that most people who take enzymes have perhaps already had a

reason to start, such as myself and my bowels were a mess! Sometimes I just

have to trust the experts since I don't have time to research and understand

everything. Thanks for the good points though.

-------Original Message-------

From: Masterjohn

I don't know how serious the risk of harm is, or whether the harm done

was properly attributed, but I've heard this from numerous people and

the concern seems to be fairly widespread.

I'll make a few comments below.

>

[Guest guest]

Faith, I have to disagree with K's

contention that drugs may be in your system

forever if you don't actively cleanse them.

The body is flushing and breaking down drugs

like it does any other toxin in a natural

ongoing process.

The necessity however of supporting the

function of the kidneys and liver can not be

understated; normally it is the phase II part of

liver function that is impaired, and it can be

supported with cold-processed whey and

selenium, a glutathione producer. The liver

and the kidneys are the two largest users of

glutathione, the master antioxidant and

detoxifier.

Duncan Crow

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/

[Guest guest]

Faith - please give some more information as to what you are taking, eating,

doing etc. What are you using to stimulate a die-off etc? Liz

Faith <Faithiegirl538@...> wrote:I am having a really bad time here and need

some support. I woke up

around 4:30am this morning not feeling right. It started with some

palpitations, then a burning across my back, anxiety, head not right. I

got up to go to the bathroom and felt really heavy in my head, sort of

off balance. I feel lousy. Very sick.

I got up to read the die off symptoms and don't see these kinds of

symptoms. I could still be getting rid of benzo's which could still be

in my body somewhere although I am off them over two years. It feels

like benzo symptoms.

Can anyone shed any light on how I am feeling. I just feel like I am

getting worse instead of better. When I spit in a glass of water now in

the morning, it doesn't look as horrible as it did. So, that would make

me think they are dying off.

Very confused and scared,

Faith

[Guest guest]

Faith ,

I am also suffering weird symptoms. I am am a super strict diet and

taking fresh garlic daily. I am feeling lots fo die off. I have had

the same symptoms you describe , palpitations, anxeity , I have

buring in my head which is scary and is there off and on. I have

suffered with these symptoms all summer'.

-- In candidiasis , Greene

<lizgreene52@y...> wrote:

>

> Faith - please give some more information as to what you are

taking, eating, doing etc. What are you using to stimulate a die-off

etc? Liz

>

> Faith <Faithiegirl538@a...> wrote:I am having a really bad time

here and need some support. I woke up

> around 4:30am this morning not feeling right. It started with some

> palpitations, then a burning across my back, anxiety, head not

right. I

> got up to go to the bathroom and felt really heavy in my head,

sort of

> off balance. I feel lousy. Very sick.

>

> I got up to read the die off symptoms and don't see these kinds of

> symptoms. I could still be getting rid of benzo's which could

still be

> in my body somewhere although I am off them over two years. It

feels

> like benzo symptoms.

>

> Can anyone shed any light on how I am feeling. I just feel like I

am

> getting worse instead of better. When I spit in a glass of water

now in

> the morning, it doesn't look as horrible as it did. So, that would

make

> me think they are dying off.

>

> Very confused and scared,

> Faith

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Faith,

My husband complains of the burning in his back and shoulders also, therefore,

must be die off, because he has been cleansing , fasting, and on the strict diet

(along w/ taking lots of herbs).....thats my guess...? Hope you feel better,

shannon

remi6596 <customerservice@...> wrote:

Faith ,

I am also suffering weird symptoms. I am am a super strict diet and

taking fresh garlic daily. I am feeling lots fo die off. I have had

the same symptoms you describe , palpitations, anxeity , I have

buring in my head which is scary and is there off and on. I have

suffered with these symptoms all summer'.

-- In candidiasis , Greene

<lizgreene52@y...> wrote:

>

> Faith - please give some more information as to what you are

taking, eating, doing etc. What are you using to stimulate a die-off

etc? Liz

>

> Faith <Faithiegirl538@a...> wrote:I am having a really bad time

here and need some support. I woke up

> around 4:30am this morning not feeling right. It started with some

> palpitations, then a burning across my back, anxiety, head not

right. I

> got up to go to the bathroom and felt really heavy in my head,

sort of

> off balance. I feel lousy. Very sick.

>

> I got up to read the die off symptoms and don't see these kinds of

> symptoms. I could still be getting rid of benzo's which could

still be

> in my body somewhere although I am off them over two years. It

feels

> like benzo symptoms.

>

> Can anyone shed any light on how I am feeling. I just feel like I

am

> getting worse instead of better. When I spit in a glass of water

now in

> the morning, it doesn't look as horrible as it did. So, that would

make

> me think they are dying off.

>

> Very confused and scared,

> Faith

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Those symptoms only lasted a short time. As time passes, I am doing better.

I feel a bit lousy maybe on hour after I take some of my products, but it

passes. I know I must be in for some more die-off soon. It will probably come

at

the most awkward time. Every day I have times where I don't feel right, but

I am also having lots of good times too.

Faith

In a message dated 10/15/2005 12:40:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

lei_gill@... writes:

Faith,

My husband complains of the burning in his back and shoulders also,

therefore, must be die off, because he has been cleansing , fasting, and on the

strict diet (along w/ taking lots of herbs).....thats my guess...? Hope you

feel

better, shannon

remi6596 <customerservice@...> wrote:

Faith ,

I am also suffering weird symptoms. I am am a super strict diet and

taking fresh garlic daily. I am feeling lots fo die off. I have had

the same symptoms you describe , palpitations, anxeity , I have

buring in my head which is scary and is there off and on. I have

suffered with these symptoms all summer'.

-- In candidiasis , Greene

<lizgreene52@y...> wrote:

>

> Faith - please give some more information as to what you are

taking, eating, doing etc. What are you using to stimulate a die-off

etc? Liz

>

> Faith <Faithiegirl538@a...> wrote:I am having a really bad time

here and need some support. I woke up

> around 4:30am this morning not feeling right. It started with some

> palpitations, then a burning across my back, anxiety, head not

right. I

> got up to go to the bathroom and felt really heavy in my head,

sort of

> off balance. I feel lousy. Very sick.

>

> I got up to read the die off symptoms and don't see these kinds of

> symptoms. I could still be getting rid of benzo's which could

still be

> in my body somewhere although I am off them over two years. It

feels

> like benzo symptoms.

>

> Can anyone shed any light on how I am feeling. I just feel like I

am

> getting worse instead of better. When I spit in a glass of water

now in

> the morning, it doesn't look as horrible as it did. So, that would

make

> me think they are dying off.

>

> Very confused and scared,

> Faith

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

Can any one tell me how to cleanse my system? What are the

symptoms of candidiasis of mouth, stomach and intestines? I don't know when I

sleeped with out taking a triptomer 10 mg and a alprax 0.25 mg. I have anxiety,

IBS and my stomach always have a heavy feeling. A whitish coating is in the oral

cavity. Can any one tell me what are the tests to find out this candidiasis?

Jiffy

---------------------------------

India Matrimony: Find your partner now.

[Guest guest]

I am having a really bad time

> here and need some support. I woke up

> > around 4:30am this morning not feeling right. It started with

some

> > palpitations, then a burning across my back, anxiety, head not

> right. I

> > got up to go to the bathroom and felt really heavy in my head,

> sort of

> > off balance. I feel lousy. Very sick.

> >

> > I got up to read the die off symptoms and don't see these kinds

of

> > symptoms. I could still be getting rid of benzo's which could

> still be

> > in my body somewhere although I am off them over two years. It

> feels

> > like benzo symptoms.

> >

> > Can anyone shed any light on how I am feeling. I just feel like

I

> am

> > getting worse instead of better. When I spit in a glass of

water

> now in

> > the morning, it doesn't look as horrible as it did. So, that

would

> make

> > me think they are dying off.

> >

> > Very confused and scared,

> > Faith

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

DOc and others,

I keep hearing about the suffering that continues for years with candida and

it makes me sad there is so much suffering. I know each person is different

and has many things that brought them to this place. I think the biggest

problem I see is that everyone keeps attacking the candida instead of

looking at the big picture. Candida is an imbalance in the system some

people have it so bad and the longer it goes the more entrenched it becomes.

THis is why it is so important to start a journey of wellness that never

ceases. Don't think of it as killing Candida but of living a more healthy

lifestyle. IF you start this very minute to make better choices of what you

eat, cleanse your bowels completely, and your liver. Start a regime of

supplements that are certified safe and non toxic with no fillers that will

give you body lots of immune support. This must continue forever, not just

for a month or two. Its all about what you do every day. Because of having

Lyme disease I had to take antibiotics all the time for years. I was very

ill, but once I made the decision to break away from the continual cause of

my problem (antibiotics), I was able to break the cycle. It was not easy but

sure worth it. I wlll continue to eat healthy, take all my supplements that

are for supporting the immune system and cleansing bowels, and getting out

dead cells, and balancing hormones every day, forever. If your car kept

dying half way down the freeway would you not want to get to the bottom of

why it did that??? Well our bodies have these symptoms to and we must get to

the bottom of them, keep working at it and never give up, ever!! Each and

everyone of you deserve to be well, the question is do you really want to be

well and do you have the patience to endure through the healing??? You can

do it, just take 1 decision at a time.

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From: Doc

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I Have started and stopped different candida theropies over the past

five years. The short times I was on them have helped me, however

brief they were. I have suffered many of the same symptoms as you if

not worse. Ive had my heart racing as high as 160 beats per minute

for 30 minutes and then slowly finding its way back to normal

through the course of a few hours. Ive had reactions to things like

garlic cloves and such that have made me white out given me

shortness of breath, etc. I suffer from these even now as I continue

to eat the wrong diet. What I'm saying is dont fear the things you

feel. The human body can withstand more than you know and if you

fear your syptoms they will be worsened by the anxiety you feel from

them...make sense? I live daily with a heart rate that bounces from

90 to 120 at rest and regularly have palpitaions. I cant see

straight most of the time or stand for long periods of time. I have

been thoughly examined many many test done and given a clean bill of

health though I know its the candida.

So be strong and push through this you will come out on the other

side feeling much better. I would think if they are beyond your

tolerance level then you should cut back on whatever your using to

kill the candida and liquify your diet as stated elsewhere on this

board. Ease the stress on your digestive tract and minimize the die

off toxins you introduce to your body for abit. work on cleansing

more than killing the candida.

Ok its 3 am and I think my over-tired rant has gone long enough.

[Guest guest]

Yes I had constipation with die off at first. I kind of freaked out about it

for awhile and then it corrected itself. Make sure you are drinking enough

water and taking in enough good fats.

To get things going again you can take a lot of vitamin C or take some extra

magesium.

Jeanne otn