Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Bill, Â The negative study from the CDC was released early this morning. The positive FDA/NIH study is not released. It " appears " that Alter wants to go back and review his work. The FDA/NIH paper was accepted and ready to be published. This looks really bad. Â Jill From: klimas_bill@... <klimas_bill@...> Subject: Chronic-Fatigue Syndrome Link to Virus Disputed - WSJ.com Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 1:20 PM Â *Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. XMRV update ******************** If you are having trouble with any of the links in this message, or if the URL's are not appearing as links, please follow the instructions at the bottom of this email. Title: Chronic-Fatigue Syndrome Link to Virus Disputed - WSJ.com This article will be available to non-subscribers of the Online Journal for up to seven days after it is e-mailed. Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to access the sent link: http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=viewThis & etMailToID=\ 510040644 & pt=Y Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to SAVE THIS link: http://www.savethis.clickability.com/st/saveThisPopupApp?clickMap=saveFromET & par\ tnerID=150 & etMailToID=510040644 & pt=Y Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to forward this link: http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=forward & etMailToID=5\ 10040644 & partnerID=150 & pt=Y ******************** Email pages from any Web site you visit - add the EMAIL THIS button to your browser, copy and paste the following into your Web browser: http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=browserButtons & pt=Y " ********************* Instructions: ----------------------------------------- If your e-mail program doesn't recognize Web addresses: 1. With your mouse, highlight the Web Address above. Be sure to highlight the entire Web address, even if it spans more than one line in your email. 2. Select Copy from the Edit menu at the top of your screen. 3. Launch your Web browser. 4. Paste the address into your Web browser by selecting Paste from the Edit menu. 5. Click Go or press Enter or Return on your keyboard. ******************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Jill If you go back through both teams work Dr Alter and Mr Switzer have come up on opposite sides of the coin before. Makes me wonder about procedure issues. Negative results can easily be attributed to poor lab work. Not so with positive findings for specific antibodies and DNA. I heard it said back in January that the difference between WPI findings and the European findings was simply that PI looked harder (from more angles/tests). Makes you consider the politics behind the CDC vs NIH. From: klimas_bill@... <klimas_bill@...> Subject: Chronic-Fatigue Syndrome Link to Virus Disputed - WSJ.com Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 1:20 PM *Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. XMRV update ******************** If you are having trouble with any of the links in this message, or if the URL's are not appearing as links, please follow the instructions at the bottom of this email. Title: Chronic-Fatigue Syndrome Link to Virus Disputed - WSJ.com This article will be available to non-subscribers of the Online Journal for up to seven days after it is e-mailed. Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to access the sent link: http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=viewThis & etMailToID=\ 510040644 & pt=Y Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to SAVE THIS link: http://www.savethis.clickability.com/st/saveThisPopupApp?clickMap=saveFromET & par\ tnerID=150 & etMailToID=510040644 & pt=Y Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to forward this link: http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=forward & etMailToID=5\ 10040644 & partnerID=150 & pt=Y ******************** Email pages from any Web site you visit - add the EMAIL THIS button to your browser, copy and paste the following into your Web browser: http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=browserButtons & pt=Y " ********************* Instructions: ----------------------------------------- If your e-mail program doesn't recognize Web addresses: 1. With your mouse, highlight the Web Address above. Be sure to highlight the entire Web address, even if it spans more than one line in your email. 2. Select Copy from the Edit menu at the top of your screen. 3. Launch your Web browser. 4. Paste the address into your Web browser by selecting Paste from the Edit menu. 5. Click Go or press Enter or Return on your keyboard. ******************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Probably you know, but in any case it's good to share among concerned parents: Wakefield's research paper showing the developmental effects of the hB vaccine with a an animal model (study with primates) was also withdrawned from publication after being accepted through the process of peer review. There was a very thorough note on how it happen, but I can not find the link now. I believe that paper offerred solid base as of the physical/organic origin of this disease. Boza 2010/7/1 Bill klimas <klimas_bill@...> > > > For those on the list that have not been following the XMRV controversy let > me fill in a bit. > XMRV is the third known human retrovirus. Like HIV it is implicated in > creating an immune dysfunction in certain prostrate cancers and in CFS. It > has been found in Autism in early studies at WPI Reno Nevada.Ongoing studies > are now underway in many locations. > Many clinicians believe that the XMRV virus may well be the triggering > mechanism behind CSF and possible at least a subgroup in Autism defined by > immune dysfunction ( kids) > > After the initial publication of the CSF study from the WPI there were > several studies that refuted the results, primarily out of Europe. These > were though to be flawed studies because they did not use the same > methodology as WPI and it has been very controversial for many months. > Recently the NIH and the FDA announced that they had confirmed the finding > of the WPI. > > Immediately the CDC announced they were publishing a paper refuting the > confirmation of the FDA and NIH findings. All three studies (WPI, NIH/FDA, > CDC), have been through the peer review process and were slated to be > published in very well known and respected scientific Journals and the > FDA/NIH paper and the CDC paper were withdrawn after being accepted by these > publications. This in itself is extremely unusual. This is science within > the accepted protocol of publishing scientific findings. For Department of > Health and Human Services to intervene and stop the publications editorial > board for releasing these is very extreme response and has no precedent, nor > do they have the authority to do this. > > Very Strange! > > Bill K > > > > From: klimas_bill@... <klimas_bill%40> < > klimas_bill@... <klimas_bill%40>> > Subject: Chronic-Fatigue Syndrome Link to Virus Disputed - WSJ.com > <%40> > Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 1:20 PM > > > > > *Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. > > XMRV update > > ******************** > > If you are having trouble with any of the links in this message, or if the > URL's are not appearing as links, please follow the instructions at the > bottom of this email. > > Title: Chronic-Fatigue Syndrome Link to Virus Disputed - WSJ.com > > This article will be available to non-subscribers of the Online Journal for > up to seven days after it is e-mailed. > > Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to access the sent link: > > > http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=viewThis & etMailToID=\ 510040644 & pt=Y > > Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to SAVE THIS link: > > > http://www.savethis.clickability.com/st/saveThisPopupApp?clickMap=saveFromET & par\ tnerID=150 & etMailToID=510040644 & pt=Y > > Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to forward this link: > > > http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=forward & etMailToID=5\ 10040644 & partnerID=150 & pt=Y > > ******************** > > Email pages from any Web site you visit - add the EMAIL THIS button to your > browser, copy and paste the following into your Web browser: > > > http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=browserButtons & pt=Y > " > > ********************* > > Instructions: > > ----------------------------------------- > > If your e-mail program doesn't recognize Web addresses: > > 1. With your mouse, highlight the Web Address above. Be sure to highlight > the entire Web address, even if it spans more than one line in your email. > > 2. Select Copy from the Edit menu at the top of your screen. > > 3. Launch your Web browser. > > 4. Paste the address into your Web browser by selecting Paste from the Edit > menu. > > 5. Click Go or press Enter or Return on your keyboard. > > ******************** > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Absolutely there is politics involved. I have several lines of thought. Actually, my thoughts are all over the place. One - Kristy is right. The CDC is in charge of the vaccinations. We should really rename the CDC to CYA. Now, I am not saying I know where XMRV comes from (although I am thinking vaccinations). But, if you put that aside, the huge increase in the vaccination schedule is triggering the immune system and XMRV. I am thankful that the positive NIH/FDA study did leak out. If I did not have that, I would be pulling my hair out at this point. This looks like the DeFreitas thing all over again. The good thing is that Dr. Mikovits is healthy and smart and she has the history to make sure that this research goes forward. The WPI (and your sister -well, actually all of us) are fighting an uphill battle. If you have time, just watch or read " and the band played on " . We have to make sure that history does not repeat itself.  All the best,  Jill  p.s. I am looking up every one of those CYA authors on that negative paper. From: klimas_bill@... <klimas_bill@...> Subject: Chronic-Fatigue Syndrome Link to Virus Disputed - WSJ.com Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 1:20 PM *Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. XMRV update ******************** If you are having trouble with any of the links in this message, or if the URL's are not appearing as links, please follow the instructions at the bottom of this email. Title: Chronic-Fatigue Syndrome Link to Virus Disputed - WSJ.com This article will be available to non-subscribers of the Online Journal for up to seven days after it is e-mailed. Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to access the sent link: http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=viewThis & etMailToID=\ 510040644 & pt=Y Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to SAVE THIS link: http://www.savethis.clickability.com/st/saveThisPopupApp?clickMap=saveFromET & par\ tnerID=150 & etMailToID=510040644 & pt=Y Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to forward this link: http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=forward & etMailToID=5\ 10040644 & partnerID=150 & pt=Y ******************** Email pages from any Web site you visit - add the EMAIL THIS button to your browser, copy and paste the following into your Web browser: http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=browserButtons & pt=Y " ********************* Instructions: ----------------------------------------- If your e-mail program doesn't recognize Web addresses: 1. With your mouse, highlight the Web Address above. Be sure to highlight the entire Web address, even if it spans more than one line in your email. 2. Select Copy from the Edit menu at the top of your screen. 3. Launch your Web browser. 4. Paste the address into your Web browser by selecting Paste from the Edit menu. 5. Click Go or press Enter or Return on your keyboard. ******************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 I am with Jill (and probably everyone else here). Unfortunately, there are a few guys worried more about their careers because they have needlessly wasted time and money for years (Reeves is one of them) and now they want to debunk the XMRV link because they have been labeling CFS as a psychosomatic illness. It turns out the CDC is holding back the NIH/FDA paper for " scientific pause " but yet sent theirs in for publication without changing it one bit. http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2010/07/01/cdc-teams-xmrv-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-p\ aper-is-out/ I hope sooner or later these guys get their dues. Until then we can't get discouraged about XMRV/CFS/Autism research, we can help by donating to WPI for their studies, because you can bet they won't be getting funding now. - > > From: klimas_bill@... <klimas_bill@...> > > Subject: Chronic-Fatigue Syndrome Link to Virus Disputed - WSJ.com > > > > Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 1:20 PM > > *Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. > > XMRV update > > ******************** > > If you are having trouble with any of the links in this message, or if the URL's are not appearing as links, please follow the instructions at the bottom of this email. > > Title: Chronic-Fatigue Syndrome Link to Virus Disputed - WSJ.com > > This article will be available to non-subscribers of the Online Journal for up to seven days after it is e-mailed. > > Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to access the sent link: > > http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=viewThis & etMailToID=\ 510040644 & pt=Y > > Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to SAVE THIS link: > > http://www.savethis.clickability.com/st/saveThisPopupApp?clickMap=saveFromET & par\ tnerID=150 & etMailToID=510040644 & pt=Y > > Copy and paste the following into your Web browser to forward this link: > > http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=forward & etMailToID=5\ 10040644 & partnerID=150 & pt=Y > > ******************** > > Email pages from any Web site you visit - add the EMAIL THIS button to your browser, copy and paste the following into your Web browser: > > http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=browserButtons & pt=Y " > > ********************* > > Instructions: > > ----------------------------------------- > > If your e-mail program doesn't recognize Web addresses: > > 1. With your mouse, highlight the Web Address above. Be sure to highlight the entire Web address, even if it spans more than one line in your email. > > 2. Select Copy from the Edit menu at the top of your screen. > > 3. Launch your Web browser. > > 4. Paste the address into your Web browser by selecting Paste from the Edit menu. > > 5. Click Go or press Enter or Return on your keyboard. > > ******************** > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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