diet question

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Mona,

Hypos are the ones that have high cholestrol problems. I have high

cholestrol. I love to eat cheese but right now I'm trying to stay away from

them for the time being.

Kozy

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Until I had stablized my thyroid, I would always have a reaction to cheese,

yet I was not allergic to it on the allergy tests...I found on the internet

something about the effect of fremented dairy products on immune antibodys so

that lead me to believe if they were studying it, then it must do

something...?? Sheri Lynn

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Mona

in 's list it mentions butter or hard cheese being good. not alot... i

think it was 4oz. or something like that. i'll have to look it up.

Margaret

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said to stay away from green plants for awhile? I was going to ask him

about spinach and goiter. I've been having an affair with spinach... fresh

juice and steamed. My goiter feels bigger and more uncomfortable since I

have been eating spinach this week. I was wondering if it was that or an

adjustment needed on my supplements.

hmmm...

Margaret

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Thanks Kozy.....I wasn't sure and since my eyes are bothering me I'm trying

to watch my diet - not sure what is and isn't good for me. Read 's post

about possibility of green vegetables being a problem so going to stay away

from green plants for a while. My right eye hurts to the touch and actually

HURTS. Weird stuff. should seriously consider writing a book in the

future about diet and supplements. Thx again, MOna

Re: Diet Question

Mona,

Hypos are the ones that have high cholestrol problems. I have high

cholestrol. I love to eat cheese but right now I'm trying to stay away from

them for the time being.

Kozy

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said that spinach was grown in soil that had a high cadmium content that

could collect in the eye muscles and affect Graves eye disease as I recall...

Sheri Lynn

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I believe I read somewhere on his new website (I could be wrong) that says

something about green vegetables. I also read somewhere that spinach was

not good for Graves patients....not sure if it's because of high iodine or

not but after reading I avoid. I like spinach too! Maybe JOhn can add some

insight to this conversation..............MOna

Re: Diet Question

said to stay away from green plants for awhile? I was going to ask him

about spinach and goiter. I've been having an affair with spinach... fresh

juice and steamed. My goiter feels bigger and more uncomfortable since I

have been eating spinach this week. I was wondering if it was that or an

adjustment needed on my supplements.

hmmm...

Margaret

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>

>

> -Does anyone know if cheese is bad for Graves Disease/TED?

Hey Mona!

I used to get heart symptoms (or maybe these could be causing your

eye symptoms?) when I ate anything that's:

> aged -- like most cheeses

> fermented -- like soy or teriyaki sauce

> overripe -- like bananas can get, real fast....

> smoked or cured -- meats, like salami, pepperoni, sausage

> Some wines, such as Chianti, as well as some beers, have a high

tyramine content. And spoiled, or improperly refrigerated food and

beverages as well.

Please bear with me on this one:

These happen to be called " high-tyramine " foods. (I think they're

also high in histamines, which mess with the immune system...?)

Anyway, people who are on certain medications called " monoamine

oxidase inhibitors " (I'm not, tho) must avoid these foods as they can

cause heart problems, esp. blood pressure problems.

What does this have to do with the thyroid? Here's my wild

guess, so forgive me if I'm on a wild goose chase here -

What the hay?

In 's supplement list, under COPPER:

It [copper] is also essential for MONOAMINE OXIDASE production which

degrades hormones after they have fulfilled their function.

Does anyone else have problems with cheese and some of these

other types of foods AND think they might not be getting enough

copper? Is there an " enzyme " and " amine " expert in the house? I

sure ain't! All I know is monoamine oxidase helps balance tyramine.

Spinach is not my good friend either.

Chris

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Hi Mona: I have Graves with Ted. In the last 6 months my eyes have improved

to the point that they appear normal again. Here's what works for me: No

caffeine (that means no coffee, tea,colas, chocolate,etc.), no dairy except

yogurt. Regular blood tests to make sure my thyroid levels are in mid-range.

I'm on (2) PTU daily, (1) in am and (1) in afternoon, about 8 hrs. apart.

In place of coffee, I drink ginger root tea (no caffeine). In place of milk,

I use a soy beverage.

My eyes improved significantly when I discontinued caffeine, at 's

suggestion. Most of the time I only had 2 small cups of coffee a day and

wasn't really expecting any results when I quit. Happy day!

This is a confusing disease and what helps one may not help someone else.

It's helpful to keep a journal to record what seems to help your eyes, and

what doesn't.

Hope this helps you. Joyce

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will probably mention that the spinach is taking away the copper. Iron food

is

good and spinach has A too. The reason 'greens' are mentioned though is

cadium. I think it was mentioned that lettuce is grown in sewage or something.

That's enough to make you think. eh?

Swan

On 13 Apr 00, at 14:42, notsed8@... wrote:

said to stay away from green plants for awhile? I was going to ask him

about spinach and goiter. I've been having an affair with spinach... fresh

juice and steamed. My goiter feels bigger and more uncomfortable since I

have been eating spinach this week. I was wondering if it was that or an

adjustment needed on my supplements.

hmmm...

Margaret

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What I find interesting about cheese is the salt; to build protein in the blood

one

needs adequate salt intake. I wonder in a nice way what your body is trying to

balance.

Swan

On 13 Apr 00, at 14:00, KTenn36117@... wrote:

Mona,

Hypos are the ones that have high cholestrol problems. I have high

cholestrol. I love to eat cheese but right now I'm trying to stay away from

them for the time being.

Kozy

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Hi, I have been in remission for over 1/2 year. I had my cholesterol checked

recently. It was 175-right in the middle. The LDL that sticks placque to the

arteries was alittle and the HDL that takes placque away from the arteries

somewhere was really alot. It wasn't very balanced. The TSH was 1.1. I am

hoping it doesn't go hyper again. I can relate all too well to everybody

wondering

why the body is getting carried away like this and being sick. I eat lecithin by

the

tablespoonful to ease hunger pangs; 5 grams of fat; 2.5 are unsaturated, 1 is

monosaturated and .5 is saturated. I take it to satiate my hunger pangs. It has

trace B vitamins. I have gained about 7 pounds since remission. Maybe it's the

straight fat but I don't really get fat in alot of my diet. And I was hungry

alot when I

noticed I had hyperT.

Swan

On 13 Apr 00, at 10:01, Horten, Mona wrote:

-Does anyone know if cheese is bad for Graves Disease/TED? I had another

question, but it slipped away for now. Thx, Mona Just remembered!! Is it

hyper or hypos that have high cholesterol problems?

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My new question... Swan and and whomever

Because of the hormonal changes right before ones cycle.... could that also

affect goiter. My accupunturist and I looked up the last time my goiter was

swollen or feeling tight and it was the same time last month ie. right before

my period. I am thinking spinach is ok, just not so much of it. I think it

has to do with my hormones. What do y'all think? Also, the combo (with

oyster shell among other things)my accupunturist has me on for goiter is

really working. She told me to take a little more before my period.

Margaret

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Cheese and yogurt feel good to me. Milk by itself makes me feel ill, as well

as too much icecream etc. I am learning that all too important lesson that

too much of anything is not good for you. I have a yogurt a day and about 4

ounces of cheddar (in an egg yolk omelette) and that's it for dairy. I am

trying to follow 's diet tips.... fresh carrot juice etccc....... I

have to say that I have never felt better in my life. Diet, exercise,

accupunture, herbs, vitamins, no more coffee, no more cigarettes...... my

endo can bite it and her RAI.

p.s. i have needles in my ears for nicotine cravings. anyone else ever have

these. they are working, but they are a little uncomfortable.

Margaret

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Thankyou. It feels like I am returning to who I am supposed to be.

Margaret

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Thankyou so much. I was hoping my accupunturist and I had figured correctly.

Now I know what to expect. I was feeling hypo for weeks and then this week,

with minimal changes to my diet, I felt hyper and my goiter feels swollen and

tight. Good... I will wait until after my period to see if I feel better.

And then if I feel off I can analyze my current intakes of meds and

supplements.

Thankyou again,

Margaret

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.....I was told it takes a few weeks to rid the body of nicotine.

Removing the habit of lifting that cigarette can take a while. You're doing

a good thing for your body! I quit smoking cigarettes 24 years ago and now

hate the smell. (I only smoked for 4 years but I still coughed for a year

after quitting). My real addition was M & Ms. They upset my stomach and the

caffeine didn't help - one morning I woke up without the craving or desire.

Not sure why. Good luck!!! M

Re: Diet Question

Cheese and yogurt feel good to me. Milk by itself makes me feel ill, as

well

as too much icecream etc. I am learning that all too important lesson that

too much of anything is not good for you. I have a yogurt a day and about 4

ounces of cheddar (in an egg yolk omelette) and that's it for dairy. I am

trying to follow 's diet tips.... fresh carrot juice etccc....... I

have to say that I have never felt better in my life. Diet, exercise,

accupunture, herbs, vitamins, no more coffee, no more cigarettes...... my

endo can bite it and her RAI.

p.s. i have needles in my ears for nicotine cravings. anyone else ever

have

these. they are working, but they are a little uncomfortable.

Margaret

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Thanks joyce.....not sure what's bothering my eyes, although I do suspect

I'm creeping into hyper zone again. I'm currently on 50mg PTU/day so may

have to increase meds. I'm one of those cases where eyes are affected by

thyroid levels when too close or in hyper zone. Going for blood test on

Monday. Thanks for the info and glad to hear your eyes have improved. Mona

Re: Diet Question

Hi Mona: I have Graves with Ted. In the last 6 months my eyes have

improved

to the point that they appear normal again. Here's what works for me: No

caffeine (that means no coffee, tea,colas, chocolate,etc.), no dairy except

yogurt. Regular blood tests to make sure my thyroid levels are in

mid-range.

I'm on (2) PTU daily, (1) in am and (1) in afternoon, about 8 hrs. apart.

In place of coffee, I drink ginger root tea (no caffeine). In place of

milk,

I use a soy beverage.

My eyes improved significantly when I discontinued caffeine, at 's

suggestion. Most of the time I only had 2 small cups of coffee a day and

wasn't really expecting any results when I quit. Happy day!

This is a confusing disease and what helps one may not help someone else.

It's helpful to keep a journal to record what seems to help your eyes, and

what doesn't.

Hope this helps you. Joyce

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Margaret,

Yes!! Hormonal changes will affect your goiter/thyroid. I've had the same

experience and earlier this year told me that he's heard of this

before. The week prior to my period I become noticably more hyper: my

weight drops three pounds no matter how much I eat, pulse goes up, crabbier,

quite warm. Then at the end of my period I start to FREEZE! I'm constantly

cold, tired, and it's almost as if my thyroid plunges and I *feel* (but am

not really) hypo. My weight also goes right back up three pounds.

The Chinese medical doctor and homeopath I'm seeing both say this is to be

expected and working to make the thyroid fluctuations during the menstrual

cycle less extreme. From what I understand, this is a slow process and will

take some time. So I continue to have acupunture every other week, take

herbs, and homeopathic remedies all with the longterm vision that the

thyroid will be more balanced. I am especially on the alert for hypo

symptoms because I have both Hashimotos and Graves disease, but have never

experienced the hypo side. So far, my thyroid levels remain normal, but I

feel like a bit of a ping pong during the before and after week of my

period.

Hope that helps. . .

Re: Diet Question

> My new question... Swan and and whomever

> Because of the hormonal changes right before ones cycle.... could that

also

> affect goiter. My accupunturist and I looked up the last time my goiter

was

> swollen or feeling tight and it was the same time last month ie. right

before

> my period. I am thinking spinach is ok, just not so much of it. I think

it

> has to do with my hormones. What do y'all think? Also, the combo (with

> oyster shell among other things)my accupunturist has me on for goiter is

> really working. She told me to take a little more before my period.

> Margaret

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Only when I bump or sleep on my ear. The pain from that is very minimal, and

non-existent when I leave them alone. The ones I have have a bandaid

attached to them (there's three in each ear) and nobody has noticed them. I

even wear my hair tucked behind my ears! I say go for it, especially if you

are in pain! My accupunturist warned me of a little euphoria. I welcomed

it, of course.

Margaret

[Guest guest]

Hi Margaret,

For the first time during treatment this week my accupunturist used

needles in my lt ear and scalp for pain in my lt thunb.( the joint is

almost gone from ostearthritis and is very painful) It worked and he

said he could put a more or less permanent one in my ear for the pain. I

didn't know it could be done for smoking. Can you feel it?I don't smoke,

but I was wondering how it would feel .

Deb

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,

Any fruit can make you fat if you eat too much of it and don't get

enough exercise. Have you checked the glycemic index of the fruits

you're eating? Pineapple has a pretty high GI. As do canatloupe and

watermelon. So eating any of those fruits is about the same as eating

mashed potatoes or cake.

Why do you think you need to lose weight?

Best wishes,

Celeste

Guzman wrote:

> HELLO ALL: Do fruits like (pineapples, cantaloupes, and papaya)

make you

> fat? Because now i am adding to my weight loss diet fruits. I have

decreased

> the amount of starchy carbohydrates and increased the amount of

fruits in

> the day.

[Guest guest]

One note( as discussed in Bob Arnot's Diet Revolution) is that the

fruit you mentioned below has quite a bit of fiber in it, thus there

is a benefit to eating it. The only fruit I can honestly say has no

fiber value and has high GI is the pineapple.

Check out the Mendosa sight plus check out Bob Arnot's book. I'm not

trying to push it, I've just read the thing and believe me it

explains all of this in detail. :-)

> > HELLO ALL: Do fruits like (pineapples, cantaloupes, and papaya)

> make you

> > fat? Because now i am adding to my weight loss diet fruits. I

have

> decreased

> > the amount of starchy carbohydrates and increased the amount of

> fruits in

> > the day.

[Guest guest]

hello well coz i feel inferior you see so i have to lose around 10 lbs to

increase my sefl esteem so that others would remember me, well i dont think

pineapples make me fatter than cake even though it bloats me cake can make u

more fat, what i do is not eat a lot of it and fill myself up with green

vegetables

>From: " nabie67 " <nabie67@...>

>Reply-hypothyroidism

>hypothyroidism

>Subject: Re: diet question

>Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 01:20:46 -0000

>

>One note( as discussed in Bob Arnot's Diet Revolution) is that the

>fruit you mentioned below has quite a bit of fiber in it, thus there

>is a benefit to eating it. The only fruit I can honestly say has no

>fiber value and has high GI is the pineapple.

>

>Check out the Mendosa sight plus check out Bob Arnot's book. I'm not

>trying to push it, I've just read the thing and believe me it

>explains all of this in detail. :-)

>

>

>

>

>

> > > HELLO ALL: Do fruits like (pineapples, cantaloupes, and papaya)

> > make you

> > > fat? Because now i am adding to my weight loss diet fruits. I

>have

> > decreased

> > > the amount of starchy carbohydrates and increased the amount of

> > fruits in

> > > the day.

>

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[Guest guest]

,

I don't think that boosting your self esteem is a very good reason

for losing weight. Why do you think someone would remember you if you

lost 10 pounds? People usually remember someone more for their

personality or their accomplishments or their charitable works. It's

usually not because of their skinniness. There's no reason why you

shouldn't have good self esteem right now.

Best wishes,

Celeste

Guzman wrote:

> hello well coz i feel inferior you see so i have to lose around 10

lbs to

> increase my sefl esteem so that others would remember me,