Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 In a message dated 6/11/2006 3:18:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, circe@... writes: both of these people are wonderful! I work at a group home for retarded adults, and I cannot tell you how appalling their diets are. A nutritionist is paid for her low calorie low fat diets. Everything is "lite" or diet (lots of aspartame)--the big treat is "lite" lowfat Kool Whip. They even have "lite" or zero fat salad dressing, it's so unbelievable. And of course no salt. gracia Gracia, Yes, I was appalled also at the fare at a nursing home. My mother-in-law was in one last year and I knew she wouldn't last with what they were feeding her, she died at Christmas. It almost seems that they are trying to kill them off, but they are just following the guidelines of these organizations that masquerade as being concerned for our health. What a crock! Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006  hm, you fry regular bananas? I have never known of anyone doing that. I love Plantains and when I go to my favorite Spanish restaurant I always get them. I might have to try regular bananas as well. Allyn Re: Re: Diet question In a message dated 6/11/2006 6:52:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, aferris7272@... writes: As much as I love Plantains they are so high is sugar I can’t eat them very often. I need to pull her book back out I use regular bananas, not Plantains. Yes, they are high in sugar, but the coconut oil stabilizes the sugar. It is a treat I don't do it all the time. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Bananas come ready to eat and frying cannot improve them, nutritionally. Dr. Randall Scripter http://anaturalway.com/ http://tbrlabs.com/anaturalway/ > > In a message dated 6/7/2006 5:33:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > aferris7272@... writes: > I have just started taking this much so I am going to have be creative and > come up with some other stuff. > There is a book out called, " Eat Fat, Lose Fat, " by Sally Fallon and Dr. > Enig that has a lot of great recipes and ideas for using Virgin Coconut Oil. > I love frying bananas in it. > > Bonnie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 true but fried plantains are yummy gracia (who has got relatives in Panama and Cuba) Bananas come ready to eat and frying cannot improve them, nutritionally.Dr. Randall Scripterhttp://anaturalway.com/http://tbrlabs.com/anaturalway/>> In a message dated 6/7/2006 5:33:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > aferris7272@... writes:> I have just started taking this much so I am going to have becreative and > come up with some other stuff. > There is a book out called, "Eat Fat, Lose Fat," by Sally Fallon andDr. > Enig that has a lot of great recipes and ideas for using VirginCoconut Oil. > I love frying bananas in it.> > Bonnie> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/361 - Release Date: 6/11/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/361 - Release Date: 6/11/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Bonnie, Thanks, we try at least. I was fortunate to come from a family who liked to cook. I grew up on real food. I can remember being about 10 years old and hearing my parents talk about an uncle of mine who owned a fast food restaurant, my stepfather made the comment that eating that way was a slow death. That always stuck with me. Very few people I know actually know how to cook from scratch. It's just too much trouble. LinnOn Jun 12, 2006, at 7:57 AM, braguet@... wrote:In a message dated 6/11/2006 6:23:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, linnmiller@... writes:When I told the dietician I wouldn't be needing it, she asked why. I told her that I didn't allow my kids to eat that way to begin with, I certainly wasn't going to allow my daughter to start eating like that after being diagnosed. I had to go out of my way to find a book that listed real whole foods. Their motto is that everybody eats like that so they just go with the flow. You'd think it would be part of their job to teach people how to manage food, but it's obvious that dieticians don't necessarily know much about nutrition.I fully agree with you that they don't even try to teach the dangers of eating wrong. Maybe they don't even know themselves. How great of you to give your kids a great foundation on nutrition, they will appreciate it later if they don't already. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Linn your emails are very hard fo rme to read. I have to scroll sideways. ???? gracia Bonnie, Thanks, we try at least. I was fortunate to come from a family who liked to cook. I grew up on real food. I can remember being about 10 years old and hearing my parents talk about an uncle of mine who owned a fast food restaurant, my stepfather made the comment that eating that way was a slow death. That always stuck with me. Very few people I know actually know how to cook from scratch. It's just too much trouble. Linn On Jun 12, 2006, at 7:57 AM, braguet@... wrote: In a message dated 6/11/2006 6:23:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, linnmiller@... writes: When I told the dietician I wouldn't be needing it, she asked why. I told her that I didn't allow my kids to eat that way to begin with, I certainly wasn't going to allow my daughter to start eating like that after being diagnosed. I had to go out of my way to find a book that listed real whole foods. Their motto is that everybody eats like that so they just go with the flow. You'd think it would be part of their job to teach people how to manage food, but it's obvious that dieticians don't necessarily know much about nutrition. I fully agree with you that they don't even try to teach the dangers of eating wrong. Maybe they don't even know themselves. How great of you to give your kids a great foundation on nutrition, they will appreciate it later if they don't already. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 it must be in how Linn has set up her email, because I have the same problem....... Karin GUHDO USA Inc. 1135 JVL Court Marietta, GA 30066 770-592-4766 (phone) 770-592-1714 (fax) www.guhdo.com -----Original Message-----From: iodine [mailto:iodine ]On Behalf Of GraciaSent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:28 AMiodine Subject: Re: Diet question Linn your emails are very hard fo rme to read. I have to scroll sideways. ???? gracia Bonnie, Thanks, we try at least. I was fortunate to come from a family who liked to cook. I grew up on real food. I can remember being about 10 years old and hearing my parents talk about an uncle of mine who owned a fast food restaurant, my stepfather made the comment that eating that way was a slow death. That always stuck with me. Very few people I know actually know how to cook from scratch. It's just too much trouble. Linn On Jun 12, 2006, at 7:57 AM, braguet@... wrote: In a message dated 6/11/2006 6:23:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, linnmiller@... writes: When I told the dietician I wouldn't be needing it, she asked why. I told her that I didn't allow my kids to eat that way to begin with, I certainly wasn't going to allow my daughter to start eating like that after being diagnosed. I had to go out of my way to find a book that listed real whole foods. Their motto is that everybody eats like that so they just go with the flow. You'd think it would be part of their job to teach people how to manage food, but it's obvious that dieticians don't necessarily know much about nutrition. I fully agree with you that they don't even try to teach the dangers of eating wrong. Maybe they don't even know themselves. How great of you to give your kids a great foundation on nutrition, they will appreciate it later if they don't already. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Gracia, That's odd, I haven't heard that complaint before. Occasionally I get an email from someone that does that. We use Apple computers, I wonder if that could be it. Linn On Jun 13, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Gracia wrote: Linnyour emails are very hard fo rme to read. I have to scroll sideways.????graciaBonnie, Thanks, we try at least. I was fortunate to come from a family who liked to cook. I grew up on real food. I can remember being about 10 years old and hearing my parents talk about an uncle of mine who owned a fast food restaurant, my stepfather made the comment that eating that way was a slow death. That always stuck with me. Very few people I know actually know how to cook from scratch. It's just too much trouble. LinnOn Jun 12, 2006, at 7:57 AM, braguet@... wrote:In a message dated 6/11/2006 6:23:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, linnmiller@... writes:When I told the dietician I wouldn't be needing it, she asked why. I told her that I didn't allow my kids to eat that way to begin with, I certainly wasn't going to allow my daughter to start eating like that after being diagnosed. I had to go out of my way to find a book that listed real whole foods. Their motto is that everybody eats like that so they just go with the flow. You'd think it would be part of their job to teach people how to manage food, but it's obvious that dieticians don't necessarily know much about nutrition.I fully agree with you that they don't even try to teach the dangers of eating wrong. Maybe they don't even know themselves. How great of you to give your kids a great foundation on nutrition, they will appreciate it later if they don't already. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The milk tests are 50% accurate and test 2 things. There are 1200 things in milk that could be an issue so that is the deal there. Celiac panels in immature immune systems have accuracy issues but there is 1 part of the panel that is very telling and accurate to 98%. But, there are issues with lab ranges and who ran the test. This I learned at a celiac conference in Manhattan, not just my opinion. But, assuming your child is not celiac, there are other reasons a kid could benefit from gluten-free. The child could be gluten sensitive. Hard poop is not good and you do need to wonder if there is enough fiber, if she is getting the right vitamins, etc. I did diet first but backtracked to be sure we needed to stay on the diet. Some things that may help you decide would be the following tests: Direct Vitamin Intake labs Hair Elements test Genetic testing for DQ1, 2, and 8 There are othes, I think they are listed in the malabsorption folder. If you decide on this diet prep yourself, don't just try to recreate the old diet or overrely on subs. It could do more harm than good. Also, make sure you replace the good that is in the things you are eliminating like vitamins A, B complex, D,E,K and cal/mag among others. If you need help the TACA website is helpful. You can do this if you have to and only you will know. As for the sadness, it lessens when the belly hurts less and the poop comes out normal. It still stinks for the parents but it is our job to engage them in food prep, explain good choices, why we eat differently and how it helps us. I eat what my kids eat so they feel less deprived and I try to approach it as a cultural thing instead of a deprivation thing. The kids pick up on your approach so you have to sign on fully once you have researched and decided this is the way to go. I posted some allergy stuff yesterday. Peanut allergies are often related to other allergins and I think milk is one. Many times folks see no improvement off milk because they have not fully eliminated it or have not been off long enough. In a severely damaged gut you may not see immediate results. Same holds true if the allergy is being masked by supplements. Good luck! > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a milk > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic daughter. > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the tests are e > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I had > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are like > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to change my > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts and I > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I offer her > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > Thank you, Lola > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Lola, My son's came back negative as well. But via elimination dieting and observation, I know that my child is 'intolerant' (not allergic but the reactions are very similiar) of casien. We have done elimination with gluten and we are okay in that departement though I find that Mark has reactions to items which are too 'yeasty' ie Subway Submarine's whole wheat bread is a no-no but can tolerate the wraps. Perhaps there might be something else in that bread formulation that affects him.... I am just assuming that it is the yeast. I can now 'tell' when he is affected by something but I cannot always tell what that something is! It seems that many kids with speech and auditory issues have trouble with the casien in milk so if you want to try a milk elimination diet for 3 weeks and then add milk products back in to your daughters diet and watch for results, that is the easiest method to really know for sure. Milk products, even in trace amounts, can cause my son's ears to get congested, his speech to slur, his balance to be affected, he gets a glazed look to his eyes, his hands go numb as well as his lips. In addition, now when he gets pure milk products, it is diarrhea city and he is in agony. When he got milk all of the time, he would only get diarrhea/constipation in 'bouts'. Once the item leaves the system and the system starts to heal.... when it is reintroduced, the reactions are severe. The thing is, he couldn't know these things until he was fee of the symptoms for a while. It took us a good 6 months (because I was an extreme sceptic and really didn't want to change my lifestyle) to really 'see' what milk did to him. We would 'kinda' eliminate milk... you know, still eat the cheese and not worry about packaged products. Well, Mark's academics were all up/down and all over the place. The teachers were complaining how his performance was inconsistent (I left the cheese on the lunchtime sandwich so he would have the pm 'blues'). Also his therapy was all over the place with regards to consistency as well. One day, I gave him an ice-cream sundae from Dairy Queen after a few good, strict days of being off of milk. Within 20 minutes, he practicly lost all of his hearing! We sat down to watch a movie and he had to sit on the floor next to the speaker in order to hear it. He also had trouble understanding the plot and context of the movie (normally easy items for him) and his balance started to dissipate (like a drunken soldier). Later he had horrible, horrible diarrhea and that was it for me..... NO MORE CASIEN! At least until I healed his tummy. Now with digestive enzymes by Huston Neutraceuticals Mark can eat pizza, some white breads, some cookies (though not many), etc. He still cannot eat straight milk, whipped or sour cream, yogurt but that's okay. Life is pretty normal though he was pretty sick after Halloween..... So.... if you really, really want to try it..... No milk, even trace amounts in breads, and 'stuff'. This means you have to label read with a vengence for a while. No soy either as it affects most of our kids in pretty much the same way. In addition, soy is often over-processed and is full of estrogen so it really is not a healthy alternative. Start with casien as it is easiest. Gluten is tough to eliminate from ones life and the changes are dramatic. It also takes a lot longer to completely leave the body. Casien is relatively easy to do and the results are often dramatic if your child is a responder. Janice Mother of Mark, 13 [sPAM][ ] Diet Question I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a milk allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic daughter. Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the tests are e negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I had eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are like rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to change my daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts and I gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I offer her other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. Thank you, Lola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The only thing is, if casein really is the issue, the gluten protein is similar so that is why, if you can get it, it is nice to have the genetic testing. > > Lola, > > My son's came back negative as well. But via elimination dieting and observation, I know that my child is 'intolerant' (not allergic but the reactions are very similiar) of casien. We have done elimination with gluten and we are okay in that departement though I find that Mark has reactions to items which are too 'yeasty' ie Subway Submarine's whole wheat bread is a no-no but can tolerate the wraps. Perhaps there might be something else in that bread formulation that affects him.... I am just assuming that it is the yeast. I can now 'tell' when he is affected by something but I cannot always tell what that something is! > > It seems that many kids with speech and auditory issues have trouble with the casien in milk so if you want to try a milk elimination diet for 3 weeks and then add milk products back in to your daughters diet and watch for results, that is the easiest method to really know for sure. Milk products, even in trace amounts, can cause my son's ears to get congested, his speech to slur, his balance to be affected, he gets a glazed look to his eyes, his hands go numb as well as his lips. In addition, now when he gets pure milk products, it is diarrhea city and he is in agony. When he got milk all of the time, he would only get diarrhea/constipation in 'bouts'. Once the item leaves the system and the system starts to heal.... when it is reintroduced, the reactions are severe. > > The thing is, he couldn't know these things until he was fee of the symptoms for a while. It took us a good 6 months (because I was an extreme sceptic and really didn't want to change my lifestyle) to really 'see' what milk did to him. We would 'kinda' eliminate milk... you know, still eat the cheese and not worry about packaged products. Well, Mark's academics were all up/down and all over the place. The teachers were complaining how his performance was inconsistent (I left the cheese on the lunchtime sandwich so he would have the pm 'blues'). Also his therapy was all over the place with regards to consistency as well. One day, I gave him an ice-cream sundae from Dairy Queen after a few good, strict days of being off of milk. Within 20 minutes, he practicly lost all of his hearing! We sat down to watch a movie and he had to sit on the floor next to the speaker in order to hear it. He also had trouble understanding the plot and context of the movie (normally easy items for him) and his balance started to dissipate (like a drunken soldier). Later he had horrible, horrible diarrhea and that was it for me..... NO MORE CASIEN! > > At least until I healed his tummy. Now with digestive enzymes by Huston Neutraceuticals Mark can eat pizza, some white breads, some cookies (though not many), etc. He still cannot eat straight milk, whipped or sour cream, yogurt but that's okay. Life is pretty normal though he was pretty sick after Halloween..... > > So.... if you really, really want to try it..... No milk, even trace amounts in breads, and 'stuff'. This means you have to label read with a vengence for a while. No soy either as it affects most of our kids in pretty much the same way. In addition, soy is often over-processed and is full of estrogen so it really is not a healthy alternative. > > Start with casien as it is easiest. Gluten is tough to eliminate from ones life and the changes are dramatic. It also takes a lot longer to completely leave the body. Casien is relatively easy to do and the results are often dramatic if your child is a responder. > > Janice > Mother of Mark, 13 > > > [sPAM][ ] Diet Question > > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a milk > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic daughter. > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the tests are e > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I had > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are like > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to change my > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts and I > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I offer her > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > Thank you, Lola > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 My son's blood tests came back negative as well, but our GI wants him to stay off gluten because we have seen such positive results. She promised me false negatives on these blood tests are common. We've found it easy to eliminate gluten (at home) but much harder to give up milk because our son LOVES the stuff more than any other food group available. As an infant, he tested positive for casein allergy and had no choice other than to be breast fed. In turn, I could not eat any beef or dairy because the protein transfers through the mother's milk. In the near future we will move to eliminate casein from his diet as well. Any advice on making this switch would be helpful. (He can not tolerate soy milk, so our alternatives are narrowed quite a bit.) Thanks. > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a milk > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic daughter. > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the tests are e > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I had > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are like > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to change my > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts and I > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I offer her > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > Thank you, Lola > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I will second what Janice has to say about casen. My charlie had done wonderful without milk and milk products. It has been difficult, but worth it. His speech is now here and much clearer when he does not have milk or milk products in his system. Over the weekend, he had pizza, cake and ice cream, Yesterday, I major screwed up and gave him a 1/4 glass of milk (mine). Major sensory stuff - touching face and ears and hair. Voice was slurred bigtime. I do wish he was old enough to tell me what and how it affects him. For now, I will stick wtih enzymes and make sure that he gets the proper calcuium / magnesium. P.S. We had EI conference today. It was a breeze telling the EI evaulator about Apraxia. You gotta laugh otherwise I would fall down and sob and the lack of knowedge. Thanks to you all I can laugh. Knowledge is power for our kiddos. Colleen Mother of Charlie 29 months Re: [ ] Diet Question Lola, My son's came back negative as well. But via elimination dieting and observation, I know that my child is 'intolerant' (not allergic but the reactions are very similiar) of casien. We have done elimination with gluten and we are okay in that departement though I find that Mark has reactions to items which are too 'yeasty' ie Subway Submarine's whole wheat bread is a no-no but can tolerate the wraps. Perhaps there might be something else in that bread formulation that affects him.... I am just assuming that it is the yeast. I can now 'tell' when he is affected by something but I cannot always tell what that something is! It seems that many kids with speech and auditory issues have trouble with the casien in milk so if you want to try a milk elimination diet for 3 weeks and then add milk products back in to your daughters diet and watch for results, that is the easiest method to really know for sure. Milk products, even in trace amounts, can cause my son's ears to get congested, his speech to slur, his balance to be affected, he gets a glazed look to his eyes, his hands go numb as well as his lips. In addition, now when he gets pure milk products, it is diarrhea city and he is in agony. When he got milk all of the time, he would only get diarrhea/constipation in 'bouts'. Once the item leaves the system and the system starts to heal.... when it is reintroduced, the reactions are severe. The thing is, he couldn't know these things until he was fee of the symptoms for a while. It took us a good 6 months (because I was an extreme sceptic and really didn't want to change my lifestyle) to really 'see' what milk did to him. We would 'kinda' eliminate milk... you know, still eat the cheese and not worry about packaged products. Well, Mark's academics were all up/down and all over the place. The teachers were complaining how his performance was inconsistent (I left the cheese on the lunchtime sandwich so he would have the pm 'blues'). Also his therapy was all over the place with regards to consistency as well. One day, I gave him an ice-cream sundae from Dairy Queen after a few good, strict days of being off of milk. Within 20 minutes, he practicly lost all of his hearing! We sat down to watch a movie and he had to sit on the floor next to the speaker in order to hear it. He also had trouble understanding the plot and context of the movie (normally easy items for him) and his balance started to dissipate (like a drunken soldier). Later he had horrible, horrible diarrhea and that was it for me..... NO MORE CASIEN! At least until I healed his tummy. Now with digestive enzymes by Huston Neutraceuticals Mark can eat pizza, some white breads, some cookies (though not many), etc. He still cannot eat straight milk, whipped or sour cream, yogurt but that's okay. Life is pretty normal though he was pretty sick after Halloween..... So.... if you really, really want to try it..... No milk, even trace amounts in breads, and 'stuff'. This means you have to label read with a vengence for a while. No soy either as it affects most of our kids in pretty much the same way. In addition, soy is often over-processed and is full of estrogen so it really is not a healthy alternative. Start with casien as it is easiest. Gluten is tough to eliminate from ones life and the changes are dramatic. It also takes a lot longer to completely leave the body. Casien is relatively easy to do and the results are often dramatic if your child is a responder. Janice Mother of Mark, 13 [sPAM][ ] Diet Question I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a milk allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic daughter. Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the tests are e negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I had eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are like rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to change my daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts and I gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I offer her other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. Thank you, Lola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I can tell you what it does to me as an adult: Headache, peripheral neuropathy, blurred vision, right ear pain that makes you want to strangle a cat and liver pain, bigtime. At times itchy skin. It takes a lot to do all of this but early on when I cheated it happened and now the longer I am off the worse it is on a cheat. > > I will second what Janice has to say about casen. My charlie had done > wonderful without milk and milk products. It has been difficult, but worth > it. His speech is now here and much clearer when he does not have milk or > milk products in his system. Over the weekend, he had pizza, cake and ice > cream, Yesterday, I major screwed up and gave him a 1/4 glass of milk > (mine). Major sensory stuff - touching face and ears and hair. Voice was > slurred bigtime. > > I do wish he was old enough to tell me what and how it affects him. For now, > I will stick wtih enzymes and make sure that he gets the proper calcuium / > magnesium. > > P.S. We had EI conference today. It was a breeze telling the EI evaulator > about Apraxia. You gotta laugh otherwise I would fall down and sob and the > lack of knowedge. Thanks to you all I can laugh. Knowledge is power for our > kiddos. > > Colleen > > Mother of Charlie 29 months > > > > > > Re: [ ] Diet Question > > > > Lola, > > My son's came back negative as well. But via elimination dieting and > observation, I know that my child is 'intolerant' (not allergic but the > reactions are very similiar) of casien. We have done elimination with gluten > and we are okay in that departement though I find that Mark has reactions to > items which are too 'yeasty' ie Subway Submarine's whole wheat bread is a > no-no but can tolerate the wraps. Perhaps there might be something else in > that bread formulation that affects him.... I am just assuming that it is > the yeast. I can now 'tell' when he is affected by something but I cannot > always tell what that something is! > > It seems that many kids with speech and auditory issues have trouble with > the casien in milk so if you want to try a milk elimination diet for 3 weeks > and then add milk products back in to your daughters diet and watch for > results, that is the easiest method to really know for sure. Milk products, > even in trace amounts, can cause my son's ears to get congested, his speech > to slur, his balance to be affected, he gets a glazed look to his eyes, his > hands go numb as well as his lips. In addition, now when he gets pure milk > products, it is diarrhea city and he is in agony. When he got milk all of > the time, he would only get diarrhea/constipation in 'bouts'. Once the item > leaves the system and the system starts to heal.... when it is reintroduced, > the reactions are severe. > > The thing is, he couldn't know these things until he was fee of the symptoms > for a while. It took us a good 6 months (because I was an extreme sceptic > and really didn't want to change my lifestyle) to really 'see' what milk did > to him. We would 'kinda' eliminate milk... you know, still eat the cheese > and not worry about packaged products. Well, Mark's academics were all > up/down and all over the place. The teachers were complaining how his > performance was inconsistent (I left the cheese on the lunchtime sandwich so > he would have the pm 'blues'). Also his therapy was all over the place with > regards to consistency as well. One day, I gave him an ice-cream sundae from > Dairy Queen after a few good, strict days of being off of milk. Within 20 > minutes, he practicly lost all of his hearing! We sat down to watch a movie > and he had to sit on the floor next to the speaker in order to hear it. He > also had trouble understanding the plot and context of the movie (normally > easy items for him) and his balance started to dissipate (like a drunken > soldier). Later he had horrible, horrible diarrhea and that was it for > me..... NO MORE CASIEN! > > At least until I healed his tummy. Now with digestive enzymes by Huston > Neutraceuticals Mark can eat pizza, some white breads, some cookies (though > not many), etc. He still cannot eat straight milk, whipped or sour cream, > yogurt but that's okay. Life is pretty normal though he was pretty sick > after Halloween..... > > So.... if you really, really want to try it..... No milk, even trace amounts > in breads, and 'stuff'. This means you have to label read with a vengence > for a while. No soy either as it affects most of our kids in pretty much the > same way. In addition, soy is often over-processed and is full of estrogen > so it really is not a healthy alternative. > > Start with casien as it is easiest. Gluten is tough to eliminate from ones > life and the changes are dramatic. It also takes a lot longer to completely > leave the body. Casien is relatively easy to do and the results are often > dramatic if your child is a responder. > > Janice > Mother of Mark, 13 > > [sPAM][ ] Diet Question > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a milk > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic daughter. > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the tests are e > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I had > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are like > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to change my > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts and I > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I offer her > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > Thank you, Lola > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Water, quick and dirty. > > > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a milk > > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic > daughter. > > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the tests > are e > > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I had > > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any > > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are like > > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to change > my > > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts and I > > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I offer her > > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > > Thank you, Lola > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I Third everything below.... My 3 boys have improved significantly since we got serious the end of July about being Milk free. The ped told me at my youngest son's 15 mo check up that he was " 1000 times better than when she met him in April of 2007 " and " I never would have believed this if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. " Also, We are " usually " sick with colds from August to May every year. THis year we actually have only had one serious cold that went through the kids - after christmas of course. It has been a very nice change!!! The dr's are forgetting my name now as I don't see them 1-4 times a month. > > I will second what Janice has to say about casen. My charlie had done > wonderful without milk and milk products. It has been difficult, but worth > it. His speech is now here and much clearer when he does not have milk or > milk products in his system. Over the weekend, he had pizza, cake and ice > cream, Yesterday, I major screwed up and gave him a 1/4 glass of milk > (mine). Major sensory stuff - touching face and ears and hair. Voice was > slurred bigtime. > > I do wish he was old enough to tell me what and how it affects him. For now, > I will stick wtih enzymes and make sure that he gets the proper calcuium / > magnesium. > > P.S. We had EI conference today. It was a breeze telling the EI evaulator > about Apraxia. You gotta laugh otherwise I would fall down and sob and the > lack of knowedge. Thanks to you all I can laugh. Knowledge is power for our > kiddos. > > Colleen > > Mother of Charlie 29 months > > > > > > Re: [ ] Diet Question > > > > Lola, > > My son's came back negative as well. But via elimination dieting and > observation, I know that my child is 'intolerant' (not allergic but the > reactions are very similiar) of casien. We have done elimination with gluten > and we are okay in that departement though I find that Mark has reactions to > items which are too 'yeasty' ie Subway Submarine's whole wheat bread is a > no-no but can tolerate the wraps. Perhaps there might be something else in > that bread formulation that affects him.... I am just assuming that it is > the yeast. I can now 'tell' when he is affected by something but I cannot > always tell what that something is! > > It seems that many kids with speech and auditory issues have trouble with > the casien in milk so if you want to try a milk elimination diet for 3 weeks > and then add milk products back in to your daughters diet and watch for > results, that is the easiest method to really know for sure. Milk products, > even in trace amounts, can cause my son's ears to get congested, his speech > to slur, his balance to be affected, he gets a glazed look to his eyes, his > hands go numb as well as his lips. In addition, now when he gets pure milk > products, it is diarrhea city and he is in agony. When he got milk all of > the time, he would only get diarrhea/constipation in 'bouts'. Once the item > leaves the system and the system starts to heal.... when it is reintroduced, > the reactions are severe. > > The thing is, he couldn't know these things until he was fee of the symptoms > for a while. It took us a good 6 months (because I was an extreme sceptic > and really didn't want to change my lifestyle) to really 'see' what milk did > to him. We would 'kinda' eliminate milk... you know, still eat the cheese > and not worry about packaged products. Well, Mark's academics were all > up/down and all over the place. The teachers were complaining how his > performance was inconsistent (I left the cheese on the lunchtime sandwich so > he would have the pm 'blues'). Also his therapy was all over the place with > regards to consistency as well. One day, I gave him an ice-cream sundae from > Dairy Queen after a few good, strict days of being off of milk. Within 20 > minutes, he practicly lost all of his hearing! We sat down to watch a movie > and he had to sit on the floor next to the speaker in order to hear it. He > also had trouble understanding the plot and context of the movie (normally > easy items for him) and his balance started to dissipate (like a drunken > soldier). Later he had horrible, horrible diarrhea and that was it for > me..... NO MORE CASIEN! > > At least until I healed his tummy. Now with digestive enzymes by Huston > Neutraceuticals Mark can eat pizza, some white breads, some cookies (though > not many), etc. He still cannot eat straight milk, whipped or sour cream, > yogurt but that's okay. Life is pretty normal though he was pretty sick > after Halloween..... > > So.... if you really, really want to try it..... No milk, even trace amounts > in breads, and 'stuff'. This means you have to label read with a vengence > for a while. No soy either as it affects most of our kids in pretty much the > same way. In addition, soy is often over-processed and is full of estrogen > so it really is not a healthy alternative. > > Start with casien as it is easiest. Gluten is tough to eliminate from ones > life and the changes are dramatic. It also takes a lot longer to completely > leave the body. Casien is relatively easy to do and the results are often > dramatic if your child is a responder. > > Janice > Mother of Mark, 13 > > [sPAM][ ] Diet Question > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a milk > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic daughter. > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the tests are e > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I had > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are like > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to change my > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts and I > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I offer her > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > Thank you, Lola > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 We like Hemp Milk. I find it at a couple of local healthfood stores. We prefer it to rice milk. Tastes a lot like soy milk and comes in vanilla, original and chocolate. The lady at the healthfood store also told me they have potato milk if we begin to run out of options, but I haven't tried it. I also like the Hemp Protein powder to add protein to the diet as an alternative to the whey protein we can no longer use. It is dark green and does have a sort of grassy taste to it, but it isn't bad. I hide it well in GF/CF/SF/EF pancakes made with GF oat flour. > > > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a milk > > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic > daughter. > > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the tests > are e > > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I had > > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any > > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are like > > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to change > my > > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts and I > > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I offer her > > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > > Thank you, Lola > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Re: EI Our OT from EI is the best. She was quietly supportive of my journey despite her mainstream bent because she saw I was really looking to be safe, found family history and the water to be a part of this, and trusted my judgment. I asked her if I was the craziest mom she had. She told me I was the most alternative who stuck with it. I think she is referring to moms who did GFCF at Mcs and HBOT and then whined that nothing worked. You gotta research and have a plan, as you do Colleen. No one at EI will be getting that any time soon. > > > > I will second what Janice has to say about casen. My charlie had > done > > wonderful without milk and milk products. It has been difficult, > but worth > > it. His speech is now here and much clearer when he does not have > milk or > > milk products in his system. Over the weekend, he had pizza, cake > and ice > > cream, Yesterday, I major screwed up and gave him a 1/4 glass of > milk > > (mine). Major sensory stuff - touching face and ears and hair. > Voice was > > slurred bigtime. > > > > I do wish he was old enough to tell me what and how it affects him. > For now, > > I will stick wtih enzymes and make sure that he gets the proper > calcuium / > > magnesium. > > > > P.S. We had EI conference today. It was a breeze telling the EI > evaulator > > about Apraxia. You gotta laugh otherwise I would fall down and sob > and the > > lack of knowedge. Thanks to you all I can laugh. Knowledge is power > for our > > kiddos. > > > > Colleen > > > > Mother of Charlie 29 months > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: [ ] Diet Question > > > > > > > > Lola, > > > > My son's came back negative as well. But via elimination dieting and > > observation, I know that my child is 'intolerant' (not allergic but > the > > reactions are very similiar) of casien. We have done elimination > with gluten > > and we are okay in that departement though I find that Mark has > reactions to > > items which are too 'yeasty' ie Subway Submarine's whole wheat > bread is a > > no-no but can tolerate the wraps. Perhaps there might be something > else in > > that bread formulation that affects him.... I am just assuming that > it is > > the yeast. I can now 'tell' when he is affected by something but I > cannot > > always tell what that something is! > > > > It seems that many kids with speech and auditory issues have > trouble with > > the casien in milk so if you want to try a milk elimination diet > for 3 weeks > > and then add milk products back in to your daughters diet and watch > for > > results, that is the easiest method to really know for sure. Milk > products, > > even in trace amounts, can cause my son's ears to get congested, > his speech > > to slur, his balance to be affected, he gets a glazed look to his > eyes, his > > hands go numb as well as his lips. In addition, now when he gets > pure milk > > products, it is diarrhea city and he is in agony. When he got milk > all of > > the time, he would only get diarrhea/constipation in 'bouts'. Once > the item > > leaves the system and the system starts to heal.... when it is > reintroduced, > > the reactions are severe. > > > > The thing is, he couldn't know these things until he was fee of the > symptoms > > for a while. It took us a good 6 months (because I was an extreme > sceptic > > and really didn't want to change my lifestyle) to really 'see' what > milk did > > to him. We would 'kinda' eliminate milk... you know, still eat the > cheese > > and not worry about packaged products. Well, Mark's academics were > all > > up/down and all over the place. The teachers were complaining how > his > > performance was inconsistent (I left the cheese on the lunchtime > sandwich so > > he would have the pm 'blues'). Also his therapy was all over the > place with > > regards to consistency as well. One day, I gave him an ice-cream > sundae from > > Dairy Queen after a few good, strict days of being off of milk. > Within 20 > > minutes, he practicly lost all of his hearing! We sat down to watch > a movie > > and he had to sit on the floor next to the speaker in order to hear > it. He > > also had trouble understanding the plot and context of the movie > (normally > > easy items for him) and his balance started to dissipate (like a > drunken > > soldier). Later he had horrible, horrible diarrhea and that was it > for > > me..... NO MORE CASIEN! > > > > At least until I healed his tummy. Now with digestive enzymes by > Huston > > Neutraceuticals Mark can eat pizza, some white breads, some cookies > (though > > not many), etc. He still cannot eat straight milk, whipped or sour > cream, > > yogurt but that's okay. Life is pretty normal though he was pretty > sick > > after Halloween..... > > > > So.... if you really, really want to try it..... No milk, even > trace amounts > > in breads, and 'stuff'. This means you have to label read with a > vengence > > for a while. No soy either as it affects most of our kids in pretty > much the > > same way. In addition, soy is often over-processed and is full of > estrogen > > so it really is not a healthy alternative. > > > > Start with casien as it is easiest. Gluten is tough to eliminate > from ones > > life and the changes are dramatic. It also takes a lot longer to > completely > > leave the body. Casien is relatively easy to do and the results are > often > > dramatic if your child is a responder. > > > > Janice > > Mother of Mark, 13 > > > > [sPAM][ ] Diet Question > > > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a milk > > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic > daughter. > > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the tests > are e > > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I had > > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any > > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are > like > > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to change > my > > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts and > I > > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I offer > her > > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > > Thank you, Lola > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Thanks . I always forget about hemp milk. It is sitting in the fridge. I better start using it! > > > > > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a > milk > > > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic > > daughter. > > > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the > tests > > are e > > > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I > had > > > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any > > > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are > like > > > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to > change > > my > > > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts > and I > > > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I offer > her > > > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > > > Thank you, Lola > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 How nutritious is hemp milk? Does it compare to cow, soy, or almond? -jimk ilizzy03 wrote: > > Thanks . I always forget about hemp milk. It is sitting in the > fridge. I better start using it! > > > > > > > > > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a > > milk > > > > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic > > > daughter. > > > > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the > > tests > > > are e > > > > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I > > had > > > > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any > > > > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are > > like > > > > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to > > change > > > my > > > > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts > > and I > > > > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I > offer > > her > > > > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > > > > Thank you, Lola > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Cow's milk is only nutritious if you are not malabsorbing. My kids have milk issues but they still did get some benefits though it harmed them overall. Soy milk is bad news per the GI. Too much fortification (rather than inherent nutrition) and too much estrogen. Almond milk is too sweet, can tear the gut, and is either a phenol or salicylate I think which does other not so great stuff to our kids. Hemp so far as I can tell is pretty good stuff. Anything with a history of the government stopping it from getting to us always intrigues me which is why stevia piques my interest lately. I do not know what is added versus inherent in hemp milk and do want to find out. Here you go: http://www.worldpantry.com/cgi- bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/livingharvest/hemp101.d2w/report http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07123/782900-34.stm > > > > > > > > > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a > > > milk > > > > > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic > > > > daughter. > > > > > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the > > > tests > > > > are e > > > > > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I > > > had > > > > > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any > > > > > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are > > > like > > > > > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to > > > change > > > > my > > > > > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts > > > and I > > > > > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I > > offer > > > her > > > > > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > > > > > Thank you, Lola > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 One of the magazines I receive recently did a positive article about hemp milk, and they included some recipes, too. It was either Alternative Medicine or Natural Health. Check out their websites. Perhaps you'll find a link to the article. in NJ > > > > > > > > > > > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had > a > > > > milk > > > > > > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic > > > > > daughter. > > > > > > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the > > > > tests > > > > > are e > > > > > > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. > I > > > > had > > > > > > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice > any > > > > > > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but > are > > > > like > > > > > > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to > > > > change > > > > > my > > > > > > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to > peanuts > > > > and I > > > > > > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I > > > offer > > > > her > > > > > > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > > > > > > Thank you, Lola > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I have Living Harvest Brand. It comes in Original, Vanilla and Chocolate where I buy it. Here is what is in the original: Calories: 130 Calories from fat: 30 total Fat 3 g Sat Fat0.5g Trans fat 0 Cholesterol 0 Sodium 120mg Potassium 113g Total Carb 20 g dietary Fiber 1g Sugars 15g Protein 4 g Vit A 18% Calcium 46% Vit D 25% Thiamin 7% Niacin 7% Vitamin B12 25% Magnesium 19% Vit C 0% Iron 15% Vit E 13% Riboflavin 31% Folic Acid 5% Phosphorus 42% Zinc 9% It boasts 700mg of Omega 3, 2000mg of Omeaga 6 in each 8 oz glass. Hope that helps! > > > > > > > > > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I had a > > > milk > > > > > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old apraxic > > > > daughter. > > > > > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the > > > tests > > > > are e > > > > > negative that there is no need to change my daughters diet. I > > > had > > > > > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice any > > > > > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular but are > > > like > > > > > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want to > > > change > > > > my > > > > > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to peanuts > > > and I > > > > > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I > > offer > > > her > > > > > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > > > > > Thank you, Lola > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Can one cook with it? Have you? If so how has it worked out? > > > > > > > > > > > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I > had a > > > > milk > > > > > > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old > apraxic > > > > > daughter. > > > > > > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because the > > > > tests > > > > > are e > > > > > > negative that there is no need to change my daughters > diet. I > > > > had > > > > > > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice > any > > > > > > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular > but are > > > > like > > > > > > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want > to > > > > change > > > > > my > > > > > > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to > peanuts > > > > and I > > > > > > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I > > > offer > > > > her > > > > > > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > > > > > > Thank you, Lola > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Yes! It worked out just fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was considering staring a milk and wheat free diet. I > > had a > > > > > milk > > > > > > > allergy test and a celiac panel ran on my 5 year old > > apraxic > > > > > > daughter. > > > > > > > Both tests came back negative. Can I trust that because > the > > > > > tests > > > > > > are e > > > > > > > negative that there is no need to change my daughters > > diet. I > > > > > had > > > > > > > eliminated most all dairy from her diet and didn't notice > > any > > > > > > > difference. Her bowel movement have always been regular > > but are > > > > > like > > > > > > > rocks and are never loose, even on fish oil. I don't want > > to > > > > > change > > > > > > my > > > > > > > daughter's diet if I don't have to. She is allergic to > > peanuts > > > > > and I > > > > > > > gets so sad when she can't eat what other are, even when I > > > > offer > > > > > her > > > > > > > other treats. Any advice or opinions would be appriciated. > > > > > > > Thank you, Lola > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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