diet question

[Guest guest]

Kelley, I think the SCD is a bad idea. People on the Specific Carb Diet

are getting better if they drop those very carbs that the diet promotes;

several of those people are on this list today to lend you their support

Feeling good about a food does not remove it from the " danger " list.

Duncan

>

> Hi,

>

> I started Specific Carbohydrate diet with my son today. He's 2 1/2,

> has autism and a huge yeast overgrowth problem. We also have him

on

> antifungals. I'm doing the diet with him because I also have yeast

> issues.

>

> Is this the best diet to do to get rid of yeast? I feel good about

> doing it with my son because it's supposed to help children with

> autism and he had a very limited diet before this. For me, I'm

> miserable so far. Right now I'm trying to choke down some plain

> hamburg and tea without milk or sweetener for breakfast.

>

> I can't help but wonder (and hope) if a lower carb approach like

south

> beach type diet would be enough for me.

> Any advice? What has worked for you?

>

> Thanks so much,

> Kelley

>

[Guest guest]

I was surprised at what SCD allowed carb-wise.

Something like Atkin's is very effective at eliminating yeast. You can

probably start at around 50g carbs/day as opposed to 20g on Atkin's

induction. His book is very good at letting you know what foods you should

and shouldn't eat.

His approach is more with controlling blood sugar, and he emphasizes adding

back in carbs that are low glycemic. So you would want to ignore that part

since carbs feed yeast. So stay at lowest carbs as possible (at least a few

months).

Replace your cooking oil with coconut oil (contains caprylic acid that kills

yeast), and if you want to you can cut down on saturated/animal fat, but you

will need fats to keep you satiated. Saturated fats are not bad - only when

it's combined w/ carbs.

I went off and on Atkins, and the 3rd time I did induction I had terrible

yeast die-off symptoms. It felt like the flu w/ achy joints and fatigue. It

lasted for 3 days. If I wouldn't known that's what it was, I would've taken

activated charcoal or something.

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

> Kelley, I think the SCD is a bad idea. People on the Specific Carb Diet

> are getting better if they drop those very carbs that the diet promotes;

> several of those people are on this list today to lend you their support

>

> Feeling good about a food does not remove it from the " danger " list.

>

> Duncan

>

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I started Specific Carbohydrate diet with my son today. He's 2 1/2,

> > has autism and a huge yeast overgrowth problem. We also have him

> on

> > antifungals. I'm doing the diet with him because I also have yeast

> > issues.

> >

> > Is this the best diet to do to get rid of yeast? I feel good about

> > doing it with my son because it's supposed to help children with

> > autism and he had a very limited diet before this. For me, I'm

> > miserable so far. Right now I'm trying to choke down some plain

> > hamburg and tea without milk or sweetener for breakfast.

> >

> > I can't help but wonder (and hope) if a lower carb approach like

> south

> > beach type diet would be enough for me.

> > Any advice? What has worked for you?

> >

> > Thanks so much,

> > Kelley

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm confused about nuts and the diet. I do know a peanut butter sandwich is OK,

but when I mentioned we were trying almond milk Dr. G said no. Can someone give

me the rules when it comes to nuts and is coconut milk yogurt and milk ok or is

that a no? I went back to study the diet on the website and it said cheerios

were ok, but cheerios are whole grain so I thought that was out...

Thank you,

Colleen

[Guest guest]

Hi Colleen,

Definitely no cow¹s milk.

Some kids are allowed to have peanut butter (as long as it is the very

processed kind), some are not. It depends on things such as if they reacted

to peanuts on the food screen and also how they are doing... I think it¹s

one of the things he may pull if he isn¹t happy with their eosinophils.

For us, he has said no tree nuts (so no almond milk), even though I know the

diet he posted on his website had a recipe for almond milk.

Also for us, no coconut milk (those who can have soy can have can have soy

yogurt...those who can have goat milk can have goat milk yogurt). You need

to be aware of the sugar in the yogurt, though. It¹s probably best to make

it at home and add a faux sweetener instead (and not honey!).

He used to say Cheerios were OK, but now he says the manufacturer has

changed something in Cheerios and now they are out.

Since things are different for different kids, it¹s probably best just to

make a list and send it to him and get his advice on each item during a

consultation. He will give you his reasoning behind these things and that

can be very helpful.

Don¹t lose your mind... I know some days it can make you crazy.

HTH,

Caroline G.

[Guest guest]

Along the same line of diet question, I have a question too. I asked Dr G's

office too and found the answer to be too ambiguous.

 

In his allergy panel, my son is allergic to all dairy including goat milk.

Before seeing Dr G, my son was on almond milk. In the allergic panel he's not

allergic to almond, however, Dr G has him on goat milk, and said no almond milk,

no rice milk, no cow milk. Then why OK for goat milk. The allergy test results

show that he's allergic to all dairy and goat milk. He is not allergic to rice

or almond.

 

The office only said to watch for any reactions to goat milk, if none, then it

is OK but no almond milk allowed. The only thing I can think of it's that the

test results are not reliable.

 

Any advice?

 

Thanks

 

Karla

From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...>

Subject: Re: diet question

Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 8:43 AM

 

Hi Colleen,

Definitely no cow¹s milk.

Some kids are allowed to have peanut butter (as long as it is the very

processed kind), some are not. It depends on things such as if they reacted

to peanuts on the food screen and also how they are doing... I think it¹s

one of the things he may pull if he isn¹t happy with their eosinophils.

For us, he has said no tree nuts (so no almond milk), even though I know the

diet he posted on his website had a recipe for almond milk.

Also for us, no coconut milk (those who can have soy can have can have soy

yogurt...those who can have goat milk can have goat milk yogurt). You need

to be aware of the sugar in the yogurt, though. It¹s probably best to make

it at home and add a faux sweetener instead (and not honey!).

He used to say Cheerios were OK, but now he says the manufacturer has

changed something in Cheerios and now they are out.

Since things are different for different kids, it¹s probably best just to

make a list and send it to him and get his advice on each item during a

consultation. He will give you his reasoning behind these things and that

can be very helpful.

Don¹t lose your mind... I know some days it can make you crazy.

HTH,

Caroline G.

[Guest guest]

Colleen

All these kids are different but all tree nuts are out and are often a problem

for people on or off the spectrum. We do not do Coconut Milk or Coconut. Yes

Cheerios are out because of the grain.

Bill

From: colleen.waguespack <colleendesigns@...>

Subject: diet question

Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:37 AM

 

I'm confused about nuts and the diet. I do know a peanut butter sandwich

is OK, but when I mentioned we were trying almond milk Dr. G said no. Can

someone give me the rules when it comes to nuts and is coconut milk yogurt and

milk ok or is that a no? I went back to study the diet on the website and it

said cheerios were ok, but cheerios are whole grain so I thought that was out...

Thank you,

Colleen

[Guest guest]

Hi bill,

When you say no dairy, do you mean no goats milk as well ?

Regards

Sunira

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

Re: diet question

Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 8:43 AM

Hi Colleen,

Definitely no cow¹s milk.

Some kids are allowed to have peanut butter (as long as it is the very

processed kind), some are not. It depends on things such as if they reacted

to peanuts on the food screen and also how they are doing... I think it¹s

one of the things he may pull if he isn¹t happy with their eosinophils.

For us, he has said no tree nuts (so no almond milk), even though I know the

diet he posted on his website had a recipe for almond milk.

Also for us, no coconut milk (those who can have soy can have can have soy

yogurt...those who can have goat milk can have goat milk yogurt). You need

to be aware of the sugar in the yogurt, though. It¹s probably best to make

it at home and add a faux sweetener instead (and not honey!).

He used to say Cheerios were OK, but now he says the manufacturer has

changed something in Cheerios and now they are out.

Since things are different for different kids, it¹s probably best just to

make a list and send it to him and get his advice on each item during a

consultation. He will give you his reasoning behind these things and that

can be very helpful.

Don¹t lose your mind... I know some days it can make you crazy.

HTH,

Caroline G.

[Guest guest]

Dr G allows Goat milk and swears there is no reaction I have tried it a couple

of times but during periods that we  were still sorting out other diet issues,

like pineapple and carbs. I finally found Toffuti cheese from bean curd and now

use that primarily on Pizza and tacos. We use Soy milk for baking.  I have not

retried Goat milk but probably will if we do not have problems with sneaking

foods in gen ed this fall. It will depend on how his Immune panels look in

October. I must say after several years of going back and forth with various

foods, Dr G - reading each kids tests and then food log - has been right on the

money every time.

Bill

From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...>

Subject: Re: diet question

Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 8:43 AM

Hi Colleen,

Definitely no cow¹s milk.

Some kids are allowed to have peanut butter (as long as it is the very

processed kind), some are not. It depends on things such as if they reacted

to peanuts on the food screen and also how they are doing... I think it¹s

one of the things he may pull if he isn¹t happy with their eosinophils.

For us, he has said no tree nuts (so no almond milk), even though I know the

diet he posted on his website had a recipe for almond milk.

Also for us, no coconut milk (those who can have soy can have can have soy

yogurt...those who can have goat milk can have goat milk yogurt). You need

to be aware of the sugar in the yogurt, though. It¹s probably best to make

it at home and add a faux sweetener instead (and not honey!).

He used to say Cheerios were OK, but now he says the manufacturer has

changed something in Cheerios and now they are out.

Since things are different for different kids, it¹s probably best just to

make a list and send it to him and get his advice on each item during a

consultation. He will give you his reasoning behind these things and that

can be very helpful.

Don¹t lose your mind... I know some days it can make you crazy.

HTH,

Caroline G.

[Guest guest]

1. Eggs aren't a 'dairy' product.

2. When I was on the diet, pork was permitted

3. I wasn't permitted corn of any sort and you can have pear juice in lieof water on the cereal

4. The only fruits I was permitted were bananas, pears, and paw paw - natural sugars in the fruits are ok5. I was permitted red meat but steaks only, no fat.

6. Tomatoes and vinegar are definitely not on the 'safe' list.

I was on the diet for three months and had no noticable difference whatsoever unfortunately.

I should also add that the diet was set down by one of the top allergists in my state.

samters From: stuffyintexas@...Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:55:50 +0000Subject: Diet question

I've been reading with great interest about the various diets that eliminate dairy, sugar, caffiene, wheat, etc, and am about to start one.A couple of quick questions for those of you that have gone thru it - 1. Does dairy include eggs? THey are a great source of protien for me.2. The diet allows chicken and fish. What about pork (i.e. pork chops, pulled pork, etc). Still concerned about protien.3. What about breakfast cereals that don't contain wheat or wheat gluten? Can I eat some sort of corn, rice, or oat based cereal (that doesn't contain sugar? (I'll use rice milk instead of regular milk, or just eat them plain with a glass of water).4. I know to stay away from processed sugars, like it cookies and breads. What about the sugars that are in naturally in fruits? Are those OK?5. Why is red meat not allowed? Once or twice a week I like to throw a steak on the grill, or cook a hamburger patty (seasoned with only salt and pepper). I've never had any sort of reaction, unless I used tenerizer with MSG.6. About how long does it take before you start noticing any improvements (I know that depends, but how long did it take for you to see any improvements)?For some reason, I react badly now to tomoatoes, or anything that contains tomatoes. I also read that spinich is high in histamines, so I'm trying to avoid salads with those two items for now. Also trying to avoid salad dressings with vinegar, which seem to trigger some reactions too.Thanks in advance. Looking forward to any thoughts and comments on this.Jack

[Guest guest]

Eggs are a great source of protien and are not considered dairy (avoid milk, cheese, yogurt, etc)

Lean pork and beef are ok in moderation - the key words are LEAN and MODERATION :)Non-wheat cereals are ok - check the ingredients though.. sometimes even "oat" or "rice" products contain wheat or wheat gluten. Same with bread.

Natural sugars like those found in fruits are ok. If you must use a sweetener, try agave nectar. It's expensive, but it metabolizes slower/better than sugar. Tomato is a high-inflammatory food.. avoid it if you can - but get your lycopenes from another source..

Try blending olive oil, fresh lemon and dijon mustard OR olive oil with your choice of berry in a food chopper for salad dressing.

You may or may not notice any improvements in your Samsters symptoms, but you will be a whole lot healthier otherwise.. that's for sure.

[Guest guest]

Thank you - sorry for slow reply

I've been on this boring diet for a week, and didn't notice any real difference

either. I do know I need to stay away from dairy (glad to hear eggs are OK),

and also stay away from tomatoes and vinegar. Something is still causing lots

of congestion still.

Jack

>

>

> 1. Eggs aren't a 'dairy' product.

> 2. When I was on the diet, pork was permitted

> 3. I wasn't permitted corn of any sort and you can have pear juice in lieof

water on the cereal

> 4. The only fruits I was permitted were bananas, pears, and paw paw - natural

sugars in the fruits are ok

> 5. I was permitted red meat but steaks only, no fat.

> 6. Tomatoes and vinegar are definitely not on the 'safe' list.

>

> I was on the diet for three months and had no noticable difference whatsoever

unfortunately.

>

> I should also add that the diet was set down by one of the top allergists in

my state.

>

>

>

>

>

> samters

> From: stuffyintexas@...

> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:55:50 +0000

> Subject: Diet question

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I've been reading with great interest about the various diets that eliminate

dairy, sugar, caffiene, wheat, etc, and am about to start one.

>

> A couple of quick questions for those of you that have gone thru it -

>

> 1. Does dairy include eggs? THey are a great source of protien for me.

>

> 2. The diet allows chicken and fish. What about pork (i.e. pork chops, pulled

pork, etc). Still concerned about protien.

>

> 3. What about breakfast cereals that don't contain wheat or wheat gluten? Can

I eat some sort of corn, rice, or oat based cereal (that doesn't contain sugar?

(I'll use rice milk instead of regular milk, or just eat them plain with a glass

of water).

>

> 4. I know to stay away from processed sugars, like it cookies and breads. What

about the sugars that are in naturally in fruits? Are those OK?

>

> 5. Why is red meat not allowed? Once or twice a week I like to throw a steak

on the grill, or cook a hamburger patty (seasoned with only salt and pepper).

I've never had any sort of reaction, unless I used tenerizer with MSG.

>

> 6. About how long does it take before you start noticing any improvements (I

know that depends, but how long did it take for you to see any improvements)?

>

> For some reason, I react badly now to tomoatoes, or anything that contains

tomatoes. I also read that spinich is high in histamines, so I'm trying to avoid

salads with those two items for now. Also trying to avoid salad dressings with

vinegar, which seem to trigger some reactions too.

>

> Thanks in advance. Looking forward to any thoughts and comments on this.

>

> Jack

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Lynn

Like I mentioned in my previous post, have been on this diet the last week (very

blah), and haven't noticed any improvement (yet). I like your recipe for the

salad dressing. Have bee eating salads plain since every dressing I have

contains vinegar and other stuff I'm trying to avoid.

It's too bad about yogurt being on the list. Its the best source of probiotics.

I read that some labs tested oral probiotics, and found out that they dont

contain all the probiotics as advertised since they are not refrigerated and a

large percentage of the good bacteria dies, which is why yogurt is the best

source.

Jack

>

> Eggs are a great source of protien and are not considered dairy (avoid milk,

cheese, yogurt, etc)

> Lean pork and beef are ok in moderation - the key words are LEAN and

MODERATION

> Non-wheat cereals are ok - check the ingredients though.. sometimes even " oat "

or " rice " products contain wheat or wheat gluten.  Same with bread.

> Natural sugars like those found in fruits are ok.  If you must use a

sweetener, try agave nectar. It's expensive, but it metabolizes slower/better

than sugar.

> Tomato is a high-inflammatory food.. avoid it if you can - but get your

lycopenes from another source..

> Try blending olive oil, fresh lemon and dijon mustard OR olive oil with your

choice of berry in a food chopper for salad dressing.

> You may or may not notice any improvements in your Samsters symptoms, but you

will be a whole lot healthier otherwise.. that's for sure.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sabina - read your message but didn't have a chance to reply quickly.

I noticed the biggest improvement when I cut out dairy (particularly cheeses).

However, had done that before I cut out the other things last week (sugars,

wheat gluten, etc). After doing this for a week, and eating salads like a

rabbit, no improvements. Actually got a bit worse, but I think it may have been

due to some strong seasonings we put on the chicken and fish I ate (no MSG, but

lots of other spices).

Have been eating rice and corb based cereals with rice milk. Have not tried

oatmeal yet. It's just too hot for hot oatmeal

I also have been drinking only water - no iced tea or decaf coffee.

I'll keep on this routine for another week or so and see what happens.

Still taking L-glutamine each morning (powder sprinked on cereal). Not sure if

it's helping or not, but it makes cereal taste funny and leaves an aftertaste in

my mouth for a couple of hours.

Thank you to everyone for your responses. I'll keep plugging away and let

everyone know if I positively identify any more triggers to this congestion.

Continue to avoid most asthma symptoms by taking 2 zyrtec each day. Symptoms

get worse if I skip a day. Have only taken Advair once in the past 2 weeks.

Jack

>

> please see my responses in red, which are from my understanding:

>

> 1. Does dairy include eggs? THey are a great source of protien for me. no,

and organic eggs are best. 

>

> 2. The diet allows chicken and fish. What about pork (i.e. pork chops, pulled

pork, etc). Still concerned about protien. it wasn't on my husband's diet

either, but he would have it once in a while. 

>

> 3. What about breakfast cereals that don't contain wheat or wheat gluten? Can

I eat some sort of corn, rice, or oat based cereal (that doesn't contain sugar?

(I'll use rice milk instead of regular milk, or just eat them plain with a glass

of water). i don't think corn or white rice are as nutritious. you might want to

try slow cooked oatmeal. if there is a brown rice cereal, that might be ok, but

if it comes out of a box, it might not be as healthy. my husband lived on

oatmeal and eggs for weeks for breakfast, with fruit once in awhile. actually he

continues to only eat that in the morning, but i do make oatmeal cookies (using

rolled oats, pamela's gluten/wheat free baking and pancake mix, and agave to

sweeten) to mix it up a little! and almond milk would be  a great substitute

for cow milk. and since you're concerned about getting enough protein, almonds

in any form i think are good: raw, milk, almond butter (which he would eat right

out of the jar

> since he was trying not to eat bread).

>

> 4. I know to stay away from processed sugars, like it cookies and breads. What

about the sugars that are in naturally in fruits? Are those OK? i think so, but

you might want to limit these if possible. generally speaking, we have only had

grapefruit and pineapple in the house. sugars can also be 'hidden' in many

sauces and especially in restaurant cooking. we have become accustomed to

reading labels and asking for reduced or no sugar when possible when eating

out. 

>

> 5. Why is red meat not allowed? Once or twice a week I like to throw a steak

on the grill, or cook a hamburger patty (seasoned with only salt and pepper).

I've never had any sort of reaction, unless I used tenerizer with MSG. i haven't

heard of this being the case. it seems like it might be ok, especially if you

can find good quality meat  like at  whole foods.

>

> 6. About how long does it take before you start noticing any improvements (I

know that depends, but how long did it take for you to see any improvements)?my

husband actually started to notice a difference relatively soon after he started

his, but we are thinking it is because in addition to the drastic dietary

change, he was taking supplements, etc. which probably helped him detox.

>

> For some reason, I react badly now to tomoatoes, or anything that contains

tomatoes. I also read that spinich is high in histamines, so I'm trying to avoid

salads with those two items for now. Also trying to avoid salad dressings with

vinegar, which seem to trigger some reactions too. i have a great salad dressing

recipe that includes red wine vinegar, so i just take that out. whisk together

olive or canola oil, crushed garlic, salt/pepper.. can add lemon too. 

>

> sabina

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: stuffyintexas <stuffyintexas@...>

> samters

> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 10:55 AM

> Subject: Diet question

>

>

>  

> I've been reading with great interest about the various diets that eliminate

dairy, sugar, caffiene, wheat, etc, and am about to start one.

>

> A couple of quick questions for those of you that have gone thru it -

>

> 1. Does dairy include eggs? THey are a great source of protien for me.

>

> 2. The diet allows chicken and fish. What about pork (i.e. pork chops,

pulled pork, etc). Still concerned about protien.

>

> 3. What about breakfast cereals that don't contain wheat or wheat gluten?

Can I eat some sort of corn, rice, or oat based cereal (that doesn't contain

sugar? (I'll use rice milk instead of regular milk, or just eat them plain with

a glass of water).

>

> 4. I know to stay away from processed sugars, like it cookies and breads.

What about the sugars that are in naturally in fruits? Are those OK?

>

> 5. Why is red meat not allowed? Once or twice a week I like to throw a steak

on the grill, or cook a hamburger patty (seasoned with only salt and pepper).

I've never had any sort of reaction, unless I used tenerizer with MSG.

>

> 6. About how long does it take before you start noticing any improvements (I

know that depends, but how long did it take for you to see any improvements)?

>

> For some reason, I react badly now to tomoatoes, or anything that contains

tomatoes. I also read that spinich is high in histamines, so I'm trying to

avoid salads with those two items for now. Also trying to avoid salad dressings

with vinegar, which seem to trigger some reactions too.

>

> Thanks in advance. Looking forward to any thoughts and comments on this.

>

> Jack

>

[Guest guest]

Jack,I hear you. It can be so frustrating. I took lots of meds, inhalers, nasal sprays, food diet and I was STILL having problems. I became convinced we had mold in our home but NO proof.After years of this, my son slipped and fell in the shower and hit the wall and became my hero. He bumped the wall hard enough and several tiles crumpled into the wall. (We live in rental that was built in the 50's) Low and behold, after we got him settled down that he was NOT in trouble for 'breaking the house' we saw the MOLD. OMG. This was just in Jan 2011.So, keep doing what you are doing. Pay close attention and not only to what you eat, but to your environment too. I have found a website I turned to in my desperation before I started Xolair (which has helped me

tremendously) Earthclinic.com and it has lots of suggestions from people on home remedies. I have found that oil pulling (swishing sesame oil in the mouth) very helpful. However, please know that it had me coughing up a lot of gunk from deep down the first few days....just cleared me out....Good luck on your journey. From: stuffyintexas <stuffyintexas@...>Subject: Re: Diet questionsamters Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 6:08 AM

Thank you - sorry for slow reply

I've been on this boring diet for a week, and didn't notice any real difference either. I do know I need to stay away from dairy (glad to hear eggs are OK), and also stay away from tomatoes and vinegar. Something is still causing lots of congestion still.

Jack

>

>

> 1. Eggs aren't a 'dairy' product.

> 2. When I was on the diet, pork was permitted

> 3. I wasn't permitted corn of any sort and you can have pear juice in lieof water on the cereal

> 4. The only fruits I was permitted were bananas, pears, and paw paw - natural sugars in the fruits are ok

> 5. I was permitted red meat but steaks only, no fat.

> 6. Tomatoes and vinegar are definitely not on the 'safe' list.

>

> I was on the diet for three months and had no noticable difference whatsoever unfortunately.

>

> I should also add that the diet was set down by one of the top allergists in my state.

>

>

>

>

>

> samters

> From: stuffyintexas@...

> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:55:50 +0000

> Subject: Diet question

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I've been reading with great interest about the various diets that eliminate dairy, sugar, caffiene, wheat, etc, and am about to start one.

>

> A couple of quick questions for those of you that have gone thru it -

>

> 1. Does dairy include eggs? THey are a great source of protien for me.

>

> 2. The diet allows chicken and fish. What about pork (i.e. pork chops, pulled pork, etc). Still concerned about protien.

>

> 3. What about breakfast cereals that don't contain wheat or wheat gluten? Can I eat some sort of corn, rice, or oat based cereal (that doesn't contain sugar? (I'll use rice milk instead of regular milk, or just eat them plain with a glass of water).

>

> 4. I know to stay away from processed sugars, like it cookies and breads. What about the sugars that are in naturally in fruits? Are those OK?

>

> 5. Why is red meat not allowed? Once or twice a week I like to throw a steak on the grill, or cook a hamburger patty (seasoned with only salt and pepper). I've never had any sort of reaction, unless I used tenerizer with MSG.

>

> 6. About how long does it take before you start noticing any improvements (I know that depends, but how long did it take for you to see any improvements)?

>

> For some reason, I react badly now to tomoatoes, or anything that contains tomatoes. I also read that spinich is high in histamines, so I'm trying to avoid salads with those two items for now. Also trying to avoid salad dressings with vinegar, which seem to trigger some reactions too.

>

> Thanks in advance. Looking forward to any thoughts and comments on this.

>

> Jack

>

[Guest guest]

I did read up on the oil pulling. I don't see how there can be any medical

benefit, and since they say it can take up to 6 months to see any improvements,

those improvements may be due to something else, not the oil pulling. (Yes, I'm

a skeptic - being in the medical field, I've seen the power of placebos and the

power of suggestion in healing).

I decided to try it out for a while anyway. I have both sesame and castor oils.

It is hard for me since I cannot breathe thru my nose, so I swish and then

breathe thru my mouth, trying to keep it from going down my throat. After about

a week, I developed a bad upper respiratory infection. Don't think it had to do

with the oil pulling, since my breathing had gradually started getting worse a

few days prior.

I'm doing a 5 day antibiotics / prednisone treatment, and will continue the oil

pulling anyway and post something if I think the oil pulling contributed to any

improvements. If nothing else, the oil does help my dry lips from taking all

the antihistamines.

Thanks for the information. Good luck with the Xolair. It helped my asthma,

but didn't do a thing for my polyps or SoS, before or after my sinus surgery.

Jack

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Can I eat some sort of corn, rice, or oat based cereal (that doesn't contain

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tomatoes. I also read that spinich is high in histamines, so I'm trying to avoid

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