Re: Just to clarify what I mean by a key poster

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Yes, these terms are wide open for interpretation. But in terms of what you write here, well..sure..it's true this list has a unique compilation and focus distinct from say the ACT for Professional List and other lists on the internet. But aren't there plenty of professionals here who are also newbies, neophytes and novices at one time or another? Just because you don't have

to be a professional or a student in a mental health/social science field to be a member doesn't mean there's not a chunk of that very group here who contribute substantively, who bare their soul--and not just Steve. So you lose me with these distinctions....it's just not that cut and dried in my book. In a sense I'd say we're

all key here, we're all heart and soul. terry To: ACT <act_for_the_public > Sent: Saturday,

July 28, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Just to clarify what I

mean by a "key" poster

"KEY" What a word. How many meanings can you ascribe to that word? Would we all agree on the meaning? In every case? Probably not.This previous post from (which has been embedded in my memory since he posted it) has informed my statement that he is not a "key" poster (although a valued one, for sure):"This list is for normal folks using ACT to help with their personal problems.It is not for professionals per se"The heart and soul of this list ("Key", if you will), are the non-professional members who bare their souls here. That is why I think of them as the "key posters." The professionals are mentors and are "key" in a different sense of the word, in that they are invaluable. But they are not the heart and soul of this list; were it not for the neophytes, the novices, the newbies, the non-professionals, this list would not be "for the Public." It would be a different list with a different purpose.Sure, is a part of the Public. A valuable part of the public

and of this

list. No doubt about that! I have too many printouts of his posts that I carry around with me to deny that fact. But, with all due respect, the heart and soul of this list (the "key" to this list), are the non-professionals - the "public".Helena

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> And I'm a bit surprised you'd not consider Steve as part of the "public", what with his very human examples of his own suffering.

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> To: "ACT_for_the_Public " <ACT_for_the_Public >

> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:00 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Experiment with this list

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> I consider a hugely key poster! I know I wouldn't have followed this list as long

> as I have without his continuous loving examples, replete with provocative questions.. expounding on all ACT processes in many ways.

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> I also don't know what is meant as to who is "public" here (?). I've always held we all are, professionals and lay alike.

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> To: ACT for the Public <ACT_for_the_Public >

> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:11 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Experiment with this list

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> Very nice post, Randy. Â I always appreciate what you have to say and the skill with which you say it.

> I don't consider a "key poster" - although his contributions

here along with those from the other ACT professionals are invaluable and much appreciated. Â This is a public list, so the key posters are "the public." Â Those of us who have been "doing" ACT for awhile, however imperfectly, those of us who are novices, those of us who can't seem to get the hang of it, those of use who are suffering and struggling - those of us who are brave enough to put our stuff out there, especially the deeply painful and ugly stuff. We are the ACT key posters; we are its heroes.

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Helena, I should have let this one be. Doesn't really matter all that much how we each parse up or imagine this community. Just glad it's here!terry To: "ACT_for_the_Public " <ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Just

to clarify what I mean by a "key" poster

Yes, these terms are wide open for interpretation. But in terms of what you write here, well..sure..it's true this list has a unique compilation and focus distinct from say the ACT for Professional List and other lists on the internet. But aren't there plenty of professionals here who are also newbies, neophytes and novices at one time or another? Just because you don't have

to be a professional or a student in a mental health/social science field to be a member doesn't mean there's not a chunk of that very group here who contribute substantively, who bare their soul--and not just Steve. So you lose me with these distinctions....it's just not that cut and dried in my book. In a sense I'd say we're

all key here, we're all heart and soul. terry To: ACT <act_for_the_public > Sent: Saturday,

July 28, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Just to clarify what I

mean by a "key" poster

"KEY" What a word. How many meanings can you ascribe to that word? Would we all agree on the meaning? In every case? Probably not.This previous post from (which has been embedded in my memory since he posted it) has informed my statement that he is not a "key" poster (although a valued one, for sure):"This list is for normal folks using ACT to help with their personal problems.It is not for professionals per se"The heart and soul of this list ("Key", if you will), are the non-professional members who bare their souls here. That is why I think of them as the "key posters." The professionals are mentors and are "key" in a different sense of the word, in that they are invaluable. But they are not the heart and soul of this list; were it not for the neophytes, the novices, the newbies, the non-professionals, this list would not be "for the Public." It would be a different list with a different purpose.Sure, is a part of the Public. A valuable part of the public

and of this

list. No doubt about that! I have too many printouts of his posts that I carry around with me to deny that fact. But, with all due respect, the heart and soul of this list (the "key" to this list), are the non-professionals - the "public".Helena

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> And I'm a bit surprised you'd not consider Steve as part of the "public", what with his very human examples of his own suffering.

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> ________________________________

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> To: "ACT_for_the_Public " <ACT_for_the_Public >

> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:00 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Experiment with this list

>

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> I consider a hugely key poster! I know I wouldn't have followed this list as long

> as I have without his continuous loving examples, replete with provocative questions.. expounding on all ACT processes in many ways.

>

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> I also don't know what is meant as to who is "public" here (?). I've always held we all are, professionals and lay alike.

>

>

> ________________________________

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> To: ACT for the Public <ACT_for_the_Public >

> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:11 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Experiment with this list

>

>

> Â

> Very nice post, Randy. Â I always appreciate what you have to say and the skill with which you say it.

> I don't consider a "key poster" - although his contributions

here along with those from the other ACT professionals are invaluable and much appreciated. Â This is a public list, so the key posters are "the public." Â Those of us who have been "doing" ACT for awhile, however imperfectly, those of us who are novices, those of us who can't seem to get the hang of it, those of use who are suffering and struggling - those of us who are brave enough to put our stuff out there, especially the deeply painful and ugly stuff. We are the ACT key posters; we are its heroes.

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Appreciate that, Terry.To: "ACT for the Public" <ACT_for_the_Public >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:02:58 PMSubject: Re: Just to clarify what I mean by a "key" poster

Helena, I should have let this one be. Doesn't really matter all that much how we each parse up or imagine this community. Just glad it's here!terry To: "ACT_for_the_Public " <ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Just

to clarify what I mean by a "key" poster

Yes, these terms are wide open for interpretation. But in terms of what you write here, well..sure..it's true this list has a unique compilation and focus distinct from say the ACT for Professional List and other lists on the internet. But aren't there plenty of professionals here who are also newbies, neophytes and novices at one time or another? Just because you don't have

to be a professional or a student in a mental health/social science field to be a member doesn't mean there's not a chunk of that very group here who contribute substantively, who bare their soul--and not just Steve. So you lose me with these distinctions....it's just not that cut and dried in my book. In a sense I'd say we're

all key here, we're all heart and soul. terry To: ACT <act_for_the_public > Sent: Saturday,

July 28, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Just to clarify what I

mean by a "key" poster

"KEY" What a word. How many meanings can you ascribe to that word? Would we all agree on the meaning? In every case? Probably not.This previous post from (which has been embedded in my memory since he posted it) has informed my statement that he is not a "key" poster (although a valued one, for sure):"This list is for normal folks using ACT to help with their personal problems.It is not for professionals per se"The heart and soul of this list ("Key", if you will), are the non-professional members who bare their souls here. That is why I think of them as the "key posters." The professionals are mentors and are "key" in a different sense of the word, in that they are invaluable. But they are not the heart and soul of this list; were it not for the neophytes, the novices, the newbies, the non-professionals, this list would not be "for the Public." It would be a different list with a different purpose.Sure, is a part of the Public. A valuable part of the public

and of this

list. No doubt about that! I have too many printouts of his posts that I carry around with me to deny that fact. But, with all due respect, the heart and soul of this list (the "key" to this list), are the non-professionals - the "public".Helena

>

> And I'm a bit surprised you'd not consider Steve as part of the "public", what with his very human examples of his own suffering.

>

> ________________________________

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> To: "ACT_for_the_Public " <ACT_for_the_Public >

> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:00 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Experiment with this list

>

>

> I consider a hugely key poster! I know I wouldn't have followed this list as long

> as I have without his continuous loving examples, replete with provocative questions.. expounding on all ACT processes in many ways.

>

>

> I also don't know what is meant as to who is "public" here (?). I've always held we all are, professionals and lay alike.

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: ACT for the Public <ACT_for_the_Public >

> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:11 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Experiment with this list

>

>

> Â

> Very nice post, Randy. Â I always appreciate what you have to say and the skill with which you say it.

> I don't consider a "key poster" - although his contributions

here along with those from the other ACT professionals are invaluable and much appreciated. Â This is a public list, so the key posters are "the public." Â Those of us who have been "doing" ACT for awhile, however imperfectly, those of us who are novices, those of us who can't seem to get the hang of it, those of use who are suffering and struggling - those of us who are brave enough to put our stuff out there, especially the deeply painful and ugly stuff. We are the ACT key posters; we are its heroes.