Re: Disheartened....I couldn't upper more my coil time

June 6, 2012

HI Hellen ,

I am soory to read what you are going throuhgt ,

I am at 12 seonds of coiling after one year beginning at 5 seconds . Liek tou I wish to go faster hoever my symptoms does not allow to do so.

I am stucked with the necessity fo colonics once a week plus th ecolema plus the welchol as nothing helps me for the herxeimer . So , you ar ento alon eon this boat .

I do not believe in being more sick than an abbaondoned dog ot get better . We have littl econtrol on the level of desease we carry and little control on how our body can handle now .

So let s be extremly carefull not to over due first because our life is miserable anouhgt like this as we ar still very very sick even thought we have tools to fight .

To what I read you ar ein pain and getting rid of thi spain is a priority . di dyou try all tha tis shared here particulalry DMSO On sight coffee aennema colema and colonics do you take a toxine buinder if not it pile up and we go nowhere.

If you can afford try 2 or 3 colonics in a raw followed by a liver cleanse this helps pu tback the toxine level to normal it will be temporary releif as the desease is drowing us in to xines bu tit will allow you eventually to get in control again . path not race like Jim say.

So no I do not agree with no pain no gain . if we do nto see every two week or 3 maximum one day acceptable where the her let us breath some life then we are poisoning ourselves throught the dye off of the spyrotheque having been too strong on the killin and too weak on the detox . I am ver limited on the detox so I have an extremly slow recoverey . You need to learn what is you detox limit this will decid of you speed for killing .

It was very good that you went backward still it needs more adjustment loks like . remmeber we have the flair the monn and all theses that come in the picture too so lets take it easy .

KIndly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:57 PMSubject: Disheartened....I couldn't upper more my coil time

Three months ago I went up coil to the time frame of one and half mins. I had been in intense bone pain and nerve firing crazy and wild. I waited three months and now began to coil again. Starting at only 5 seconds. When I reached to 30 seconds on(432) after one month treatment, I developed classic symptoms ear ringing, deep left neck and shoulder bone pain, muscle stiffness/soreness. I could not hold up my job well becasue I felt extremely tired. In my mind, I am so anxious wanting to get rid of this lyme ordeal. I thought the only hope is coil machine for me. I couldn't take abx. Many months of mms and few months Salt/C seems not getting me to the better place. I have done CE daily, drinking clay, DE, taken tons supplements, probiotic, green drink. Now my brused like deep soreness leg pain is very intense. I am just weavering shall I keep going coiling thinking no pain no gain?I would like to understand about coil machine. If non-lyme persons

ever being received coil treatment, do they have any reaction from the machine? I saw you tubes some people were coiling almost half an hour with no ill effects. Why my body soooo sensitive? Every time I used my left hand picking up the coil ring and putting on my stomach and lying down and let go my hands. It made my left side of neck/shoulder very hurtful. Any advice of better way to pick up ring? Helen

June 6, 2012

Hi, I read with interest, on how sensitive people are to rife. I wonder if we have increased ability to cope with extended time because of all of the alternative approaches we took before hand. But I also wonder if such sensitivity is to do with co infections too. I herx to lyme freq, but have decided not to treat it more than once every week or two and to hit Bartonella instead....My kids had Bart symptoms, not me, until I did 8 months antibiotics. People on site have talked about how killing lyme can ‘make room for the bart to increase and fire up’. I believe this is true for me! It makes me wonder about other infections too, so I will be treating everything I can think of, while holding lyme in check with minimal treatments, before I seriously go after lyme. Cheers . From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of dingyung49Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012 4:57 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Disheartened....I couldn't upper more my coil time Three months ago I went up coil to the time frame of one and half mins. I had been in intense bone pain and nerve firing crazy and wild. I waited three months and now began to coil again. Starting at only 5 seconds. When I reached to 30 seconds on(432) after one month treatment, I developed classic symptoms ear ringing, deep left neck and shoulder bone pain, muscle stiffness/soreness. I could not hold up my job well becasue I felt extremely tired. In my mind, I am so anxious wanting to get rid of this lyme ordeal. I thought the only hope is coil machine for me. I couldn't take abx. Many months of mms and few months Salt/C seems not getting me to the better place. I have done CE daily, drinking clay, DE, taken tons supplements, probiotic, green drink. Now my brused like deep soreness leg pain is very intense. I am just weavering shall I keep going coiling thinking no pain no gain?I would like to understand about coil machine. If non-lyme persons ever being received coil treatment, do they have any reaction from the machine? I saw you tubes some people were coiling almost half an hour with no ill effects. Why my body soooo sensitive? Every time I used my left hand picking up the coil ring and putting on my stomach and lying down and let go my hands. It made my left side of neck/shoulder very hurtful. Any advice of better way to pick up ring? Helen

June 7, 2012

This sounds very hard, Helen. I've not had this issue, except that I do seem to

hit a ceiling point of treatment where it can be suddenly too much and then I

have to cut back. Perhaps if only a few seconds is so effective you don't need

to worry that much that you can't increase the time.

Since you have the detox and many supplements in place, it makes me wonder if

there is some missing pieces in your detox pathways. Have you had those tested?

Can you handle sauna?

Sherry

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> Three months ago I went up coil to the time frame of one and half mins. I had

been in intense bone pain and nerve firing crazy and wild. I waited three

months and now began to coil again. Starting at only 5 seconds. When I reached

to 30 seconds on(432) after one month treatment, I developed classic symptoms

ear ringing, deep left neck and shoulder bone pain, muscle stiffness/soreness.

I could not hold up my job well becasue I felt extremely tired. In my mind, I

am so anxious wanting to get rid of this lyme ordeal. I thought the only hope

is coil machine for me. I couldn't take abx. Many months of mms and few months

Salt/C seems not getting me to the better place. I have done CE daily,

drinking clay, DE, taken tons supplements, probiotic, green drink. Now my brused

like deep soreness leg pain is very intense. I am just weavering shall I keep

going coiling thinking no pain no gain?

> I would like to understand about coil machine. If non-lyme persons ever

being received coil treatment, do they have any reaction from the machine? I

saw you tubes some people were coiling almost half an hour with no ill effects.

Why my body soooo sensitive? Every time I used my left hand picking up the coil

ring and putting on my stomach and lying down and let go my hands. It made my

left side of neck/shoulder very hurtful. Any advice of better way to pick up

ring? Helen

>

June 7, 2012

Hi Helen,

I'm so sorry that you are hurting so much and understandably frustrated. About

a month after starting to coil for Lyme (I was up to about a minute at that

point) I started getting shin pain and red dots on my shins. It turns out when

I started killing the Lyme, Bartonella--which I didn't know I had--started

growing a lot faster and now it's the main thing I'm treating. I'm up to 2:30

for Bart. daily and 1:20 for Lyme weekly now, after 5 months, and in the last

few weeks I feel like I've started to make some headway. I'm able to add time

to both each time and the horrible muscle spasms I was getting each time aren't

as bad.

I have all my faith in the coil and do very little otherwise except for lots of

supplements and dextoxifiers to deal with the herxes, but nothing else to try to

kill the Lyme. Maybe you have another infection that Lyme was supressing that

is now showing itself. If you can only do 3 sec. at first for Lyme, then do

that, and go by how you feel to increase, or even decrease your time when you

need to. Bart's been hard for me because I have to do it every day, and for a

while my back would go out every day and it was a lot of visits to the

chiropracter before he and I figured out how I can adjust my back when it goes

out--that's made all the difference. I guess we all have our herx challenges

and have to learn how to deal with them to get through this, but I did want to

tell you that I feel like I'm on the other side of a big hump right now, and

it's very encouraging. Don't give up!!

Tara