New here

November 4, 2004

Welcome to the group Tish!

I see that the others gave you alot of great advice. Once you have

done a little more research on this subject only you will truly know

in your gut what you would like to do next. It probably depends on

the seriousness of her headshape but as others will say, I wish we

had gotten my son in a band at 6 mos. old rather than 9 mos. old. It

still helped him but he probably would've seen greater correction.

Their growth really seems to slow alot at 12 mos. old and sometimes a

little earlier. I hope this helps and good luck with your decision.

We support you in whatever you would like to do....

Sue

Colin F., 13 mos.

STARband grad 9/04

brachy

> I am new to this group and daughter has not been diagnosed yet but

she does

> have a flat spot. I believe this is from her being colic and me

always

> holding her in the crook of my one arm. we have been aware of it

but I

> didn't think it was that bad. I have a nice who wore the doc band

and

> everyone kept telling me it wasn't as bad as hers. She also had

torticollus.

> Now my daughter is 6 months old and the ped said if not better by

9 months

> they would refer us somewhere. Also said to keep her off it unless

she is

> sleeping. I am going to try and let her belly sleep but she really

does not

> like it. I do not know whether to take her to a specialist now or

wait. Not

> sure how much it will change before then and if she has a serious

problem or

> not. I am thinking of taking her just to err on the side of

caution. How

> many people have had good results with trying to keep them off of

it?

>

> Thanks

>

> Tish

November 4, 2004

Thanks Sue I will keep you posted.

Tish

Re: New Here

>

> Welcome to the group Tish!

>

> I see that the others gave you alot of great advice. Once you have

> done a little more research on this subject only you will truly know

> in your gut what you would like to do next. It probably depends on

> the seriousness of her headshape but as others will say, I wish we

> had gotten my son in a band at 6 mos. old rather than 9 mos. old. It

> still helped him but he probably would've seen greater correction.

> Their growth really seems to slow alot at 12 mos. old and sometimes a

> little earlier. I hope this helps and good luck with your decision.

> We support you in whatever you would like to do....

>

> Sue

> Colin F., 13 mos.

> STARband grad 9/04

> brachy

>

> > I am new to this group and daughter has not been diagnosed yet but

> she does

> > have a flat spot. I believe this is from her being colic and me

> always

> > holding her in the crook of my one arm. we have been aware of it

> but I

> > didn't think it was that bad. I have a nice who wore the doc band

> and

> > everyone kept telling me it wasn't as bad as hers. She also had

> torticollus.

> > Now my daughter is 6 months old and the ped said if not better by

> 9 months

> > they would refer us somewhere. Also said to keep her off it unless

> she is

> > sleeping. I am going to try and let her belly sleep but she really

> does not

> > like it. I do not know whether to take her to a specialist now or

> wait. Not

> > sure how much it will change before then and if she has a serious

> problem or

> > not. I am thinking of taking her just to err on the side of

> caution. How

> > many people have had good results with trying to keep them off of

> it?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Tish

>

> For more plagio info

November 10, 2004

My daughter wore a STARband from age 9 to 12 months. She received wonderful

correction. I beleive surgery is pretty rare for treating plagio. Also at

such a young age your daughter could benefit from repositioning. Have you

checked out the repositioning file. Also there are several before and

afters in the photos section.

Angie and Jenna(STAR grad)

new here

>

> Well I have a 4 1/2 month old who needs a band.Here they offer STAR

> bands and I was wondering if anyone has one,or knows some more

> information about it.Madison is 13 off they said,if you know what I

> mean,is there a surgery involved in this?

> Desire'

>

> For more plagio info

November 10, 2004

Hi Desire',

Welcome to the group! Did your daughter have any xrays or a ctscan

to rule out premature fusion of the bones in her head? As long as

that (craniosynostosis) has been ruled out, surgery shouldn't be

needed as long as you have an experienced ortho. At 4.5 mos of age

and 13mm of assymetry she should be able to get to a basically

normal head shape. My daughter started with 20mm of assymetry and

was banded at 4.5 mos and her head looks great now. In just 10

weeks her head improved 10mm! The most important thing in your

situation is to make sure your ortho is experienced in treating

plagio! Where will you be going for treatment? Maybe we have a

member in your area who can give you some input.

, mom to Hannah, DOCgrad

Cape Cod, Ma

http://hannahsnoggin.typepad.com/hannahs_noggin/

>

> Well I have a 4 1/2 month old who needs a band.Here they offer

STAR

> bands and I was wondering if anyone has one,or knows some more

> information about it.Madison is 13 off they said,if you know what

I

> mean,is there a surgery involved in this?

> Desire'

November 11, 2004

Hi Desire’…I don’t have

any experience with the Starband because I repositioned my dd for her

correction, but we do have a lot of moms here who have had very good

experiences with them. I just wanted to say welcome to the group and feel free

to ask anything you want. That’s what we are here for.

Becky (’s mom) in Pittsburgh,

PA

new here

Well I have a 4 1/2 month old who needs a

band.Here they offer STAR

bands and I was wondering if anyone has one,or

knows some more

information about it.Madison is 13 off they

said,if you know what I

mean,is there a surgery involved in this?

Desire'

For more

plagio info

November 11, 2004

Desire,

Welcome to the group. We have had a lot of babies in STARbands. Where are you located? We may have some locals. The key thing is how much experience the ortho has treating babies and using the starband. Do you know? We have some questions to ask ...

Orthomerica's (Makers of the STARband) Questions for Parents to Ask a Prospective OrthotistFeel free to print out this list of questions and refer to them during your initial consultation with the orthotist. Establishing and maintaining open lines of communication will enhance yours and your child's experience with a cranial remolding orthosis.http://www.orthomerica.com/products/cranial/cranial_questions.htm

Cranial Tech's Questions to Ask the Doctor or Orthotist:The quality of treatment available varies widely for children with plagiocephaly. One way to avoid pitfalls is to be aware of them. Print this page and use it for your research.http://www.cranialtech.com/Treatment/selecting.html

Questions To Ask The Doctor and Orthotist/Clinician Once an official diagnosis is made and a course of treatment is planned, many children are referred to an Orthotist or Treatment Facility in order to obtain cranial orthosis. Here is a list of questions to ask the Orthotist/Clinician. http://www.cappskids.org/QuestionsForTheDoctorAndOrthotist.htm

13 mm is most likely the cranial vault asymmetry measurement. This means if you drew an X on the top of your baby's head one side would be 13 mm longer than the other. This is moderate severity. The STARband should work well and as long as there is no premature fusing of the sutures (most likely not is your dr hasn't mentioned it) then no surgery would be required.

At 4 1/2 months Madison should receive good correction.

mom to na

17 months

DOC Grad

desiredbttfly77@... wrote:

Well I have a 4 1/2 month old who needs a band.Here they offer STAR bands and I was wondering if anyone has one,or knows some more information about it.Madison is 13 off they said,if you know what I mean,is there a surgery involved in this?Desire'For more plagio info

January 18, 2005

Welcome to the group !

Your answer really depends on exactly what insurance you have. Most

insurance companies have helmets listed under durable medical

equipment (DME). We also have a huge database of info on who's

insurance paid for what. If you let us know your provider I'm sure we

could help you more.

good luck,

Crista-Grayslake, IL

D-15 mo old-brachy DOCGrad

--- In Plagiocephaly , " heatherjo_72 " <inhim28@h...>

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone! My name is and I have an eight month old baby

> boy named Caleb. I don't have an official diagnosis yet but I'm

> pretty sure Caleb has plagio. His head looks like the pictures that

> I've seen. He has a flat spot on the back right side of his head,

> his ears are slightly misaligned and part of his forehead sticks

out

> slightly more than the other side.

> I take Caleb to the pediatrician on Friday, so I hope she will take

> it seriously. Caleb also has infantile scoliosis so I think this is

> why he always wants to turn his head to the right ( away from the

> curve ). It also doesn't help that he has some gross motor delays

> ( which he receives PT for) so he can't sit up yet which gives him

> more time on his head.

> I have a question about the helmets and insurance. We have health

> insurance, but not prescription coverage. I wonder if the helmet

> would be considered to be a prescription like meds?

> Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer! Thanks!

January 18, 2005

Thanks! Our insurance provider is Physicians Plus. I hope that there

won't be a problem because there is no way we can pay 3000.00 plus

dollars for a helmet. Caleb is having surgery on both of his eyes on

the 31st for strabismus...so that's a hefty co-pay in itself.

> >

> > Hi everyone! My name is and I have an eight month old

baby

> > boy named Caleb. I don't have an official diagnosis yet but I'm

> > pretty sure Caleb has plagio. His head looks like the pictures

that

> > I've seen. He has a flat spot on the back right side of his

head,

> > his ears are slightly misaligned and part of his forehead sticks

> out

> > slightly more than the other side.

> > I take Caleb to the pediatrician on Friday, so I hope she will

take

> > it seriously. Caleb also has infantile scoliosis so I think this

is

> > why he always wants to turn his head to the right ( away from

the

> > curve ). It also doesn't help that he has some gross motor

delays

> > ( which he receives PT for) so he can't sit up yet which gives

him

> > more time on his head.

> > I have a question about the helmets and insurance. We have

health

> > insurance, but not prescription coverage. I wonder if the helmet

> > would be considered to be a prescription like meds?

> > Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer! Thanks!

January 18, 2005

Hello ,

Since you mentioned that Caleb has scoliosis - I wanted to be sure to

call out the possibility of a neck tightness problem called

" torticollis " to you. Its a culprit in a lot of plagiocephaly cases

(causes children to turn their head to one side and tip it to the

other). It is thought to derive from an awkward/cramped position in

the womb and sometimes correlates with scoliosis and hip dysplasia.

Here's a link to an article that gives an overview of " tort " :

http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/baby/babyills/10912.html

And here's a link to a discussion group that focusses on it and has

members who are dealing with scoliosis as well:

torticolliskids/

If you are seeing a pediatric orthopedic specialist for the scoliosis,

I would recommend asking them to assess torticollis as well.

My daughter was treated for torticollis and plagiocephaly in '03. She

had a helmet for correcting the plagicephaly, and we did neck

stretching excersizes and saw a physical therapist for the

torticollis. Torticollis is a problem that Early Intervention (called

Birth-To-Three in some states) can address. Early Intervention is a

state department of health program that provides many different types

of early intervention services to infants and toddlers with

disabilities and their families. You might consider doing a web search

on Early Intervention in your state to find contact information for

your local chapter who you could contact for an evaluation. We found

our local group to be very knowlegeable and helpful.

Best Wishes,

-

>

> Hi everyone! My name is and I have an eight month old baby

> boy named Caleb. I don't have an official diagnosis yet but I'm

> pretty sure Caleb has plagio. His head looks like the pictures that

> I've seen. He has a flat spot on the back right side of his head,

> his ears are slightly misaligned and part of his forehead sticks out

> slightly more than the other side.

> I take Caleb to the pediatrician on Friday, so I hope she will take

> it seriously. Caleb also has infantile scoliosis so I think this is

> why he always wants to turn his head to the right ( away from the

> curve ). It also doesn't help that he has some gross motor delays

> ( which he receives PT for) so he can't sit up yet which gives him

> more time on his head.

> I have a question about the helmets and insurance. We have health

> insurance, but not prescription coverage. I wonder if the helmet

> would be considered to be a prescription like meds?

> Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer! Thanks!

January 18, 2005

Hi ,

Welcome to the group. I see you've already been given some great

info on torticollis and Early Intervention. As far as the

insurance, I'd just call them to see if they cover cranial

orthosis. We also have an Insurance Database in our database

section where you can search to see if anyone had the same type of

insurance you have. You may want to look into the Bumbo Seat too,

www.babybumboseat.com for a product that would allow him to sit

supported without any further pressures on his head. Good luck!

, mom to Hannah, DOCgrad

Cape Cod, Ma

http://hannahsnoggin.typepad.com

--- In Plagiocephaly , " heatherjo_72 " <inhim28@h...>

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone! My name is and I have an eight month old baby

> boy named Caleb. I don't have an official diagnosis yet but I'm

> pretty sure Caleb has plagio. His head looks like the pictures

that

> I've seen. He has a flat spot on the back right side of his head,

> his ears are slightly misaligned and part of his forehead sticks

out

> slightly more than the other side.

> I take Caleb to the pediatrician on Friday, so I hope she will

take

> it seriously. Caleb also has infantile scoliosis so I think this

is

> why he always wants to turn his head to the right ( away from the

> curve ). It also doesn't help that he has some gross motor delays

> ( which he receives PT for) so he can't sit up yet which gives him

> more time on his head.

> I have a question about the helmets and insurance. We have health

> insurance, but not prescription coverage. I wonder if the helmet

> would be considered to be a prescription like meds?

> Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer! Thanks!

January 18, 2005

Hi . It looks like you have already been given some grat

advice and a good place to start. If you aren't sure your pede will

take you seriously about the plagio, you might try printing out some

of the info you find in out files and links section. That's what I

did. I printed out a bunch of stuff to show my pede, although she

took it seriously enough without the handouts. Let us know how it

goes at the appt on Friday. And welcome to the group.

becky, mom to , repo grad in Pgh, PA

--- In Plagiocephaly , " heatherjo_72 " <inhim28@h...>

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone! My name is and I have an eight month old baby

> boy named Caleb. I don't have an official diagnosis yet but I'm

> pretty sure Caleb has plagio. His head looks like the pictures

that

> I've seen. He has a flat spot on the back right side of his head,

> his ears are slightly misaligned and part of his forehead sticks

out

> slightly more than the other side.

> I take Caleb to the pediatrician on Friday, so I hope she will

take

> it seriously. Caleb also has infantile scoliosis so I think this

is

> why he always wants to turn his head to the right ( away from the

> curve ). It also doesn't help that he has some gross motor delays

> ( which he receives PT for) so he can't sit up yet which gives him

> more time on his head.

> I have a question about the helmets and insurance. We have health

> insurance, but not prescription coverage. I wonder if the helmet

> would be considered to be a prescription like meds?

> Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer! Thanks!

January 18, 2005

Hi and welcome! I'm sure your question was already answered but I'll

answer it anyway. See if your policy has a DME (durable medical

eqpm't) rider. That is a good start. If you have any trouble with

coverage please let us know. Many of us had to fight to win approval

even with the rider. Hopefully you will have no trouble. GL on

Friday and let us know. Just know that there is a safe, non-invasive

treatment for this and we'll help you every step of the way.

Sue

Colin F., 15 mos.

STARband grad

for brachy

--- In Plagiocephaly , " heatherjo_72 " <inhim28@h...>

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone! My name is and I have an eight month old baby

> boy named Caleb. I don't have an official diagnosis yet but I'm

> pretty sure Caleb has plagio. His head looks like the pictures that

> I've seen. He has a flat spot on the back right side of his head,

> his ears are slightly misaligned and part of his forehead sticks

out

> slightly more than the other side.

> I take Caleb to the pediatrician on Friday, so I hope she will take

> it seriously. Caleb also has infantile scoliosis so I think this is

> why he always wants to turn his head to the right ( away from the

> curve ). It also doesn't help that he has some gross motor delays

> ( which he receives PT for) so he can't sit up yet which gives him

> more time on his head.

> I have a question about the helmets and insurance. We have health

> insurance, but not prescription coverage. I wonder if the helmet

> would be considered to be a prescription like meds?

> Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer! Thanks!

January 18, 2005

Thank you all so much for the info and the warm welcome! I will

check into my insurance to find out what they will cover. Caleb is

already in the early intervention program for our state. His

scoliosis alone qualified him, but he also has some gross motor

delays. We're not sure what's causing his delay as he's fine in all

other areas. We don't know if it's his scoliosis or his eyes (

strabismus) or both that might be holding him back. He's been to the

pediatric orthopedic doctor and we take him back in April to

determine if his scoliosis has progressed. I'm not sure about the

tort. Caleb seems to be able to turn his head from side to side

without any problem. The early intervention physical therapist is

coming tomorrow so I'll ask her about it. Thank you all so much!

What a wonderful group!

> >

> > Hi everyone! My name is and I have an eight month old

baby

> > boy named Caleb. I don't have an official diagnosis yet but I'm

> > pretty sure Caleb has plagio. His head looks like the pictures

that

> > I've seen. He has a flat spot on the back right side of his

head,

> > his ears are slightly misaligned and part of his forehead sticks

out

> > slightly more than the other side.

> > I take Caleb to the pediatrician on Friday, so I hope she will

take

> > it seriously. Caleb also has infantile scoliosis so I think this

is

> > why he always wants to turn his head to the right ( away from

the

> > curve ). It also doesn't help that he has some gross motor

delays

> > ( which he receives PT for) so he can't sit up yet which gives

him

> > more time on his head.

> > I have a question about the helmets and insurance. We have

health

> > insurance, but not prescription coverage. I wonder if the helmet

> > would be considered to be a prescription like meds?

> > Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer! Thanks!

January 18, 2005

Hi ,

I see that you've received many replies so I'll just say hello and

welcome you to the group. What area do you live in? Maybe another

member has received treatment in your area and can tell you what to

expect.

Natasha

Atlanta, GA

--- In Plagiocephaly , " heatherjo_72 " <inhim28@h...>

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone! My name is and I have an eight month old baby

> boy named Caleb. I don't have an official diagnosis yet but I'm

> pretty sure Caleb has plagio. His head looks like the pictures

that

> I've seen. He has a flat spot on the back right side of his head,

> his ears are slightly misaligned and part of his forehead sticks

out

> slightly more than the other side.

> I take Caleb to the pediatrician on Friday, so I hope she will

take

> it seriously. Caleb also has infantile scoliosis so I think this

is

> why he always wants to turn his head to the right ( away from the

> curve ). It also doesn't help that he has some gross motor delays

> ( which he receives PT for) so he can't sit up yet which gives him

> more time on his head.

> I have a question about the helmets and insurance. We have health

> insurance, but not prescription coverage. I wonder if the helmet

> would be considered to be a prescription like meds?

> Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer! Thanks!

January 18, 2005

Hi ,

Welcome to the group!

I see you have already received some wonderful replies. I hope

Caleb's appt. with the pediatrician goes well. It's still common to

get concerns brushed off, so it may help to be direct with your

pediatrician about getting a prescription for a band, or referral to

a specialist for evaluation if that's what you want. At 8 months

old, Caleb is on the older side of any " wait, reposition, and see

advice. "

Please post and let us know how the appt. goes!

Take care,

Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " heatherjo_72 " <inhim28@h...>

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone! My name is and I have an eight month old baby

> boy named Caleb. I don't have an official diagnosis yet but I'm

> pretty sure Caleb has plagio. His head looks like the pictures

that

> I've seen. He has a flat spot on the back right side of his head,

> his ears are slightly misaligned and part of his forehead sticks

out

> slightly more than the other side.

> I take Caleb to the pediatrician on Friday, so I hope she will

take

> it seriously. Caleb also has infantile scoliosis so I think this

is

> why he always wants to turn his head to the right ( away from the

> curve ). It also doesn't help that he has some gross motor delays

> ( which he receives PT for) so he can't sit up yet which gives him

> more time on his head.

> I have a question about the helmets and insurance. We have health

> insurance, but not prescription coverage. I wonder if the helmet

> would be considered to be a prescription like meds?

> Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer! Thanks!

January 18, 2005

Hi ,

Welcome to the group, I see that you've already received some great

replies. So, I'll just welcome you to the group.

--- In Plagiocephaly , " heatherjo_72 " <inhim28@h...>

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone! My name is and I have an eight month old baby

> boy named Caleb. I don't have an official diagnosis yet but I'm

> pretty sure Caleb has plagio. His head looks like the pictures that

> I've seen. He has a flat spot on the back right side of his head,

> his ears are slightly misaligned and part of his forehead sticks

out

> slightly more than the other side.

> I take Caleb to the pediatrician on Friday, so I hope she will take

> it seriously. Caleb also has infantile scoliosis so I think this is

> why he always wants to turn his head to the right ( away from the

> curve ). It also doesn't help that he has some gross motor delays

> ( which he receives PT for) so he can't sit up yet which gives him

> more time on his head.

> I have a question about the helmets and insurance. We have health

> insurance, but not prescription coverage. I wonder if the helmet

> would be considered to be a prescription like meds?

> Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer! Thanks!

January 20, 2005

Hi ,

I see you have already gotten a lot of replies, so I am just going to

say Hello! and welcome to the groups. You've come to the right place.

--- In Plagiocephaly , " heatherjo_72 " <inhim28@h...>

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone! My name is and I have an eight month old baby

> boy named Caleb. I don't have an official diagnosis yet but I'm

> pretty sure Caleb has plagio. His head looks like the pictures that

> I've seen. He has a flat spot on the back right side of his head,

> his ears are slightly misaligned and part of his forehead sticks

out

> slightly more than the other side.

> I take Caleb to the pediatrician on Friday, so I hope she will take

> it seriously. Caleb also has infantile scoliosis so I think this is

> why he always wants to turn his head to the right ( away from the

> curve ). It also doesn't help that he has some gross motor delays

> ( which he receives PT for) so he can't sit up yet which gives him

> more time on his head.

> I have a question about the helmets and insurance. We have health

> insurance, but not prescription coverage. I wonder if the helmet

> would be considered to be a prescription like meds?

> Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer! Thanks!

January 20, 2005

Hi ,

My name is andra, and I am new here also. My baby is 8 mo.

old and she is getting her DOC band on Monday 1/24/05.I would say

that she has the same head shape like your little boy. A flat spot on

the back of her head, and her ears are slightly misaligned. We have

Oxford Health Ins. and we were denied for caverage. So I send Appeal

to them and just today found out they have approved us for DOC band.

I would check with babies Dr. if they think he should need helmet...

if he needs one you should do something about it ASAP...

If you have any feel free to post here...

Hope this helps,

andra

-- In Plagiocephaly , " " <saiken2003@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hi ,

> I see you have already gotten a lot of replies, so I am just going

to

> say Hello! and welcome to the groups. You've come to the right

place.

>

> >

> > Hi everyone! My name is and I have an eight month old

baby

> > boy named Caleb. I don't have an official diagnosis yet but I'm

> > pretty sure Caleb has plagio. His head looks like the pictures

that

> > I've seen. He has a flat spot on the back right side of his head,

> > his ears are slightly misaligned and part of his forehead sticks

> out

> > slightly more than the other side.

> > I take Caleb to the pediatrician on Friday, so I hope she will

take

> > it seriously. Caleb also has infantile scoliosis so I think this

is

> > why he always wants to turn his head to the right ( away from the

> > curve ). It also doesn't help that he has some gross motor delays

> > ( which he receives PT for) so he can't sit up yet which gives

him

> > more time on his head.

> > I have a question about the helmets and insurance. We have health

> > insurance, but not prescription coverage. I wonder if the helmet

> > would be considered to be a prescription like meds?

> > Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone has to offer! Thanks!

January 23, 2006

" Nourishing Traditions " by Sally Fallon and " Nutrition and Physical

Degeneraton " by WEston A. Price are my best bets. There is a ton of

information on the website www.westonaprice.org as well. Those three

should keep you busy for quite some time!

--- In , lind Guder <rguder@g...>

wrote:

>

> Hi everybody,

>

> I'm new here. Just a beginner at WAP, etc. I'm looking for advice on

which

> book(s) is(are) the absolute, must-have one(s) to give me all of the

basic

> info I need to know.

>

> lind

>

January 24, 2006

> Hi everybody,

>

> I'm new here. Just a beginner at WAP, etc. I'm looking for advice on which

> book(s) is(are) the absolute, must-have one(s) to give me all of the basic

> info I need to know.

>

> lind

>

Also, in addition to the previous recommendations, _Wild Fermentation_

by Sandor Katz is a great book for making fermented foods the more

traditional way.

Steph

January 25, 2006

lind-

>I'm new here. Just a beginner at WAP, etc. I'm looking for advice on which

>book(s) is(are) the absolute, must-have one(s) to give me all of the basic

>info I need to know.

_Nourishing Traditions_, no question about it. It's a wide-ranging

but very practical introduction. After that you can branch off in

whatever directions interest you, but that's definitely the book to start with.

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May 11, 2006

If you're not ready for meat yet, bone broth is a nice baby step -

just get some marrow bones and simmer them in the crock pot for 24

hours or so with a little vinegar then use the stock in one of your

soups, like with lentils, tomato paste, carrots and celery. You'll

feed your bones and heal your GI and not even know the difference!

For the cod liver oil, just be sure that it's got natural vitamins A

& D, I heard some brands take out the natural A & D and replace them

with the palmitate version!!!! There are a few brands that are

recommended at the bottom of the article that's online at

www.westonaprice.org.

My first meat after about 10 years of being a vegetarian was a hot

dog cooked in sauerkraut! I guess there was something in organ

meats I needed!

>

> Hello I'm new here

> I think maybe I was a with this group a year ago without

> understanding what it's all about.

> Anyway I was referred to Weston Price by a former vegetarian who

told

> me (a former vegetarian)that eating that way has been the cause of

> health issues I am dealing with. To name a couple for now it would

be

> anemia and hypoglycemia. I'm not ready to bite into a steak yet. I

> haven't done that in about 20 years. But in the mean time I have

been

> more diligently eating salmon, eggs and tuna.

> I will be interested to see what I can learn from you all who are

> used to eating more healthfully. I hope to learn how to make

changes

> in my diet that will make a noticable difference. I have not eaten

> processed foods for several years now. Although once in a while

I'll

> drink a diet coke but that is rare. I went all last year without

ever

> touching a diet anything.

> I read online about the Cod Liver oil. I need to know where to

buy it

> and what brand and how much to take.

> I look forward in seeing what you all talk about here.

> April

>

May 11, 2006

I'll think about it. I'm serious, this is going to take some time to

even contemplate any meat products. I come from a family of vegetarians

who feel very sorry for the cow. Now I know it's a part of the cycle of

life and we need to eat the cow, well I sort of know that. I'm digesting

the idea right now.

What do you mean about it helping my GI. Do you mean to tell me it will

help my intestines? Seriously? I'm learning here. I actually have a

veeery slow colon. So, maybe I will try to do what you suggested if it

is supposed to heal that problem.

This diet doesn't suggest eating like the Atkins does it? I'm hoping

not. I know the animal fat is important. How much are we really trying

to get in one day? I've been a big fan of lots of butter for frying my

eggs and plenty of cream in my coffee and eat salmon a couple times a

week and full fat yogurt. My fat intake for the past year has been

definitely much higher that the standard recommendations. So, I've

gotten over the fear of fat.

Thanks,

April