Guest guest Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Hi , my experience has been that when ever I change something initially it is very uncomfortable/painful for a while. My therapist likened it to a new physical excercise regime. There will be aches and sore muscles that are not used to being excercised. Being able to 'hear',descern and sort out the thoughts that have probably been running our lives is a difficult thing to do! many many people go through life totally unaware of the thoughts and their impact. in post # 20324 Stan humorously refers to the 'thoughts' as Radio JibberJabber. " " " It's so easy to take the shock-jock on our inner radio (I call mine Radio JibberJabber) seriously and get lost in all sorts of painful, angry tangles! " " " This is where I have found the Mindfulness excercises so helpful. I especially like Russ 's, on his website. Some are free and the others are very reasonably priced. I recently watched an interview with Bill Moyers and Pema Chödrön. As I recall, certainly not a quote, in response to his question about the value of mindfulness meditation, she said that meditation creates 'space' in the mind. Prior to having the new 'space' in my mind, my mind was crammed 110% of capacity with all the anxious,irrational,fearful, etc, thoughts. Having it described like this helped me see how this new 'space' in my mind, space of calm and quiet, helped to alleviate some anxiety and worry, giving me room to work on turning down the volume of the Radio JibberJabber, make 'wise mind' choices not based on the inaccurate reporting of Radio JibberJabberand be able to begin create a life worth living. Best, Wanda " hoggers71 " wrote: > Hello All I'm doing ACT on my own at the moment (by reading The Happiness Trap) so I hope you don't mind me firing questions to the group........ > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 , What you're experiencing as you listen to the shock-jock on your inner radio sounds completely normal. He's not saying anything new and he's not saying it louder than he did before. All that's happening is that you're becoming more aware of his crazy rants and seeing them as the bullshit they are, that's all. He's just shouting the same old junk in an effort to get you to believe what he believes. Like shock-jocks on radios everywhere, he has a has a point of view, he wants you to see the world the way he does. His way of thinking might be wrong and out of touch with the way things really are, but he wants the best for you, he really does. My advice for what it's worth: treat the inner shock-jock in your head as you would the radio in your house: smile at his rants and ravings while you ignore him and do the things that matter in your life and give it meaning. Cheers, Stan > > Hello All > > I'm doing ACT on my own at the moment (by reading The Happiness Trap) so I hope you don't mind me firing questions to the group. > > After cultivating observation for a while, I now seem to be aware of everything that's going on in my head, and it's been a bit of an awakening really. > > The more aware I am, the more bombarded by thoughts and feelings I become. My 'thinking mind' is having an absolute field day at the moment. Anything and everything that could possibly upset me is up there. Today has been wall to wall fear. > > I just wondered if this were normal. I'm fielding things well enough at the moment, but it's incessant! > > I suffer from GAD quite badly, do I have a feeling that may be it. > > Anyway, if anyone can throw any light on this I'd be extremely grateful. > > Best, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi, from a veiw of your thoughts,if you can state you can discern your thoughts ,then you have a good self observer,mindfulness, some can find it chalenging at first to discern thought,feelings, first ,then to do Defusion to them Can be even more challenging,.Thoughts, pay attention to them OR not , judge them, you not supposed , that again is the self observer Not to judge you thoughts ot feeling just accept them. What if you know your thoughts are dishonest and have been ,,before doing act....and your realizing it more now, and you start hearing how other people are dishonest . Where before you just didnt care, . Its a process, hope it makes sense. Sent from Yahoo!7 Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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