Re: Do nids docs use Amantadine?

[Guest guest]

doesn't use amantadine but NeuroSensory Center does. Its the only protocol

I know of that uses it. Some people have great results with NeuroSensory

center, others don't.

>

> I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA viruses?

I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed after his

MMR.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi . Is that Neuro sensory center of America in Austin,Tx.,that you are

talking about? Tammy F.

> >

> > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

after his MMR.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr G wanted to give MMR booster to my healthy , normally developing son who had

a MMR reaction at 1yr and proceeded to lose all language and eye contact. We

settled on titer test and found it to be off the chart high. Indicative of the

findings of vaccine strain in cerebral, spinal fluid and gut - where it's not

supposed to be.

We used a HIGH VITAMIN A PROTOCOL that took 48 hrs and cost under $20 and had

eye contact and amazing cognitive leaps within a week or two.

(never did get MMR booster or any other vaccines)

YMMV

>

> I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA viruses?

I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed after his

MMR.

>

[Guest guest]

Can you be specific as to exactly what your high Vitamin A protocol was?

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From: rwb000 <snccla@...>

Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 12:40:23 PM

Subject: Re: Do nids docs use Amantadine?

Dr G wanted to give MMR booster to my healthy , normally developing son who had

a MMR reaction at 1yr and proceeded to lose all language and eye contact. We

settled on titer test and found it to be off the chart high. Indicative of the

findings of vaccine strain in cerebral, spinal fluid and gut - where it's not

supposed to be.

We used a HIGH VITAMIN A PROTOCOL that took 48 hrs and cost under $20 and had

eye contact and amazing cognitive leaps within a week or two.

(never did get MMR booster or any other vaccines)

YMMV

>

> I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA viruses?

I

>was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed after his

>MMR.

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, Dr. G wanted to give vaccines????? Now I'm not so sure I want to use Nids if

they are going to make me vaccinate them. I can't believe that! If my kids had

remained unvaccinated, I wouldn't be on this list! I'm just beside myself!

Rhonda Masengale

On Dec 20, 2010, at 11:40 AM, " rwb000 " <snccla@...> wrote:

> Dr G wanted to give MMR booster to my healthy , normally developing son who

had a MMR reaction at 1yr and proceeded to lose all language and eye contact. We

settled on titer test and found it to be off the chart high. Indicative of the

findings of vaccine strain in cerebral, spinal fluid and gut - where it's not

supposed to be.

>

> We used a HIGH VITAMIN A PROTOCOL that took 48 hrs and cost under $20 and had

eye contact and amazing cognitive leaps within a week or two.

> (never did get MMR booster or any other vaccines)

>

> YMMV

>

>

> >

> > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

after his MMR.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Btw, we have done the high dose vitamin a protocol twice and it helped, but

didn't eliminate the mmr virus.

Rhonda Masengale

On Dec 20, 2010, at 11:40 AM, " rwb000 " <snccla@...> wrote:

> Dr G wanted to give MMR booster to my healthy , normally developing son who

had a MMR reaction at 1yr and proceeded to lose all language and eye contact. We

settled on titer test and found it to be off the chart high. Indicative of the

findings of vaccine strain in cerebral, spinal fluid and gut - where it's not

supposed to be.

>

> We used a HIGH VITAMIN A PROTOCOL that took 48 hrs and cost under $20 and had

eye contact and amazing cognitive leaps within a week or two.

> (never did get MMR booster or any other vaccines)

>

> YMMV

>

>

> >

> > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

after his MMR.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would love some information about the high dose vitamin A protocol as

well. Our son tested low in vitamin A last October and our local neurologist

called to tell us to supplement immediately. However Dr. G did not want us

to give him supplements other than the Polyvisol infant vitamin drops. He

says that supplementing the vitamin A could do more harm than good. HMMMM .

.. . Thoughts and opinions needed.

Who can advise about the protocol?

Thanks,

Martha

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Rhonda Masengale <rhondamasengale@...

> wrote:

>

>

> Btw, we have done the high dose vitamin a protocol twice and it helped, but

> didn't eliminate the mmr virus.

>

> Rhonda Masengale

>

> On Dec 20, 2010, at 11:40 AM, " rwb000 " <snccla@...<snccla%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> > Dr G wanted to give MMR booster to my healthy , normally developing son

> who had a MMR reaction at 1yr and proceeded to lose all language and eye

> contact. We settled on titer test and found it to be off the chart high.

> Indicative of the findings of vaccine strain in cerebral, spinal fluid and

> gut - where it's not supposed to be.

> >

> > We used a HIGH VITAMIN A PROTOCOL that took 48 hrs and cost under $20 and

> had eye contact and amazing cognitive leaps within a week or two.

> > (never did get MMR booster or any other vaccines)

> >

> > YMMV

> >

> >

> > >

> > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

> viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son

> regressed after his MMR.

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have heard of some people doing the high dose Vit A for two days and then

staying on a maintenance dose of between 5,000 to 25,000 IU's per day.

> Dr G wanted to give MMR booster to my healthy , normally developing son who

had a MMR reaction at 1yr and proceeded to lose all language and eye contact. We

settled on titer test and found it to be off the chart high. Indicative of the

findings of vaccine strain in cerebral, spinal fluid and gut - where it's not

supposed to be.

>

> We used a HIGH VITAMIN A PROTOCOL that took 48 hrs and cost under $20 and had

eye contact and amazing cognitive leaps within a week or two.

> (never did get MMR booster or any other vaccines)

>

> YMMV

>

>

> >

> > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

after his MMR.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Always remember you are the decision maker. Doctors can give you advice, you

can chose to follow it or not.

> > >

> > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

after his MMR.

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, there are more around the country. Another in Trophy Club, TX DFW area.

> > >

> > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

after his MMR.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This is a good primer.

http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm

> >

> > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I

> >was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed after his

> >MMR.

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Once worked for us. Some require twice and a few I have read about more. Did you

follow with maintenance dose? Have you tested for Vit A levels? DanasView.net

mentions some kids with low absorption rates that require more treatments. But

the improvements are amazing when virus cleared up.

Ridding that virus will probably yield major results since it's so persistent.

WAKE FOREST UNIVERSITY recently confirmed vaccine strain of Measles Virus in

cerebral, spinal fluid and gut of huge percentage of kids with autism.

> > >

> > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

after his MMR.

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dr G refused to see my child if we did not vaccinate, in spite of my protests

about a vaccine reaction being the reason he was in this predicament to begin

with. We settled on a titer test, which should have been negative but

surprisingly, was off the charts high. He relented on the vaccine, but left soon

thereafter. (Search the archives for more details on our situation.) We felt the

combinations of drugs had never been tested, especially in kids and did not want

to be the guinea pig in a clinical trial. This is not to bash Dr G as many of

his followers seeing results are adamant. I applaud your results and whatever

works for you. We felt the drugs were masking the symptoms and not creating a

cure.

We asked about all the cured kids, which if you extrapolate the number of kids

seen per hour per day per month, there should be a ton of cures. I've seen less

than 10 and none totally off prescription medication. Please correct me if I'm

wrong.

I have seen spontaneous recoveries from parents doing absolutely nothing.

But I have seen hundreds improve and lose diagnosis using GFCF diet, High Vit A

to reverse MMR damage and AC Chelation to reverse mercury poisoning. Allergies

are disappearing. Chronic conditions fade away. Behaviour calms and normalizes.

ATEC's plummet...all without drugs.

There are over 27,000 parent treatment ratings on Autism Research Institute

website. Compare your results with theirs. See what works best for most kids

with least side effects. Add your input.

Test your kids (and improvements) with the ATEC (Autism Treatment Evaluation

Checklist) on the same site.

Of course this is not the panacea for all our kids but it is curing mine with

almost no chance of harming him more.

I hope everyone finds something that works for their situation.

> > > >

> > > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

after his MMR.

> > > >

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> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

You made an excellent point. No one can make us do anything we don't think

is right for our children. Sometimes we forget we are the ones in charge of

our children's care. That helps with some of the scary decisions like

starting an SSRI. I remember freaking out when Dr. G first suggested it.

That was when he said if your child had diabetes, would you give him

insulin? Then he went on to say you can always stop it. That made sense to

me. And that SSRI brought amazing changes for . I hate to admit it but

Dr. G was right and I was wrong about it. But I was right about getting his

tonsils out and the rehabilitation program we used.

Best,

Marcia Hinds

[Guest guest]

Hi , yes, I know I am the decision maker but I just can't see a doc

working with kids that are immune-deficient recommending more vaccines for them,

especially the MMR, it seems to be THE one that *most* feel got us here in the

first place. I wonder what his reasoning behind this is. Plus, I've been hearing

how rude he is when someone doesn't agree with him and I would not want to get

yelled at for refusing to give my child vaccs he recommended. I'm still

dumbfounded he would recommend vaccs, to immune-deficient kids! And from what

I've been reading, if I refuse, I can expect a great tongue lashing. Has anyone

on this board given their vaccine-injured children more vaccs at a nids Doc

request?

> > > >

> > > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

after his MMR.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I would not agree that Dr G recommends vaccines. I have spoken with him at

length and my experience is that he will recommend certain vaccines that he

feels the catching the illness out weights the potential harm from the vaccine

and only when the child's health is at a point he feels there will not be a

reaction. In other words he will not vaccinate a sick child and only if in a

situation like Meningitis or pneumonia entering high school.

Additionally I told him I just did not trust the entire program and he never

brought it up again.

Bill

________________________________

From: rhondamasengale <rhondamasengale@...>

Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 9:51:30 AM

Subject: Re: Do nids docs use Amantadine?

Hi , yes, I know I am the decision maker but I just can't see a doc

working with kids that are immune-deficient recommending more vaccines for them,

especially the MMR, it seems to be THE one that *most* feel got us here in the

first place. I wonder what his reasoning behind this is. Plus, I've been hearing

how rude he is when someone doesn't agree with him and I would not want to get

yelled at for refusing to give my child vaccs he recommended. I'm still

dumbfounded he would recommend vaccs, to immune-deficient kids! And from what

I've been reading, if I refuse, I can expect a great tongue lashing. Has anyone

on this board given their vaccine-injured children more vaccs at a nids Doc

request?

> > > >

> > > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

>viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

>after his MMR.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Would you mind forwarding the research paper re Wake U finding measles in

children with autism?

Thank you!

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of rwb000

Sent: December-21-10 3:17 AM

Subject: Re: Do nids docs use Amantadine?

Once worked for us. Some require twice and a few I have read about more. Did

you follow with maintenance dose? Have you tested for Vit A levels?

DanasView.net mentions some kids with low absorption rates that require more

treatments. But the improvements are amazing when virus cleared up.

Ridding that virus will probably yield major results since it's so

persistent. WAKE FOREST UNIVERSITY recently confirmed vaccine strain of

Measles Virus in cerebral, spinal fluid and gut of huge percentage of kids

with autism.

> > >

> > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son

regressed after his MMR.

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bill, that makes me feel much better. I will stop freaking out now! Lol!

I plan to see A nids doc in march, well my kids.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

> >viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son

regressed

> >after his MMR.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I am thinking of trying it again with beta carotene vs. Using palmitate. I used

that the last 2 times. I'll try again after the holidays. Thanks for the info. I

didn't know I might have to try more than once to rid the measles virus with

Vit. A.

Rhonda Masengale

On Dec 21, 2010, at 1:16 AM, " rwb000 " <snccla@...> wrote:

> Once worked for us. Some require twice and a few I have read about more. Did

you follow with maintenance dose? Have you tested for Vit A levels?

DanasView.net mentions some kids with low absorption rates that require more

treatments. But the improvements are amazing when virus cleared up.

>

> Ridding that virus will probably yield major results since it's so persistent.

WAKE FOREST UNIVERSITY recently confirmed vaccine strain of Measles Virus in

cerebral, spinal fluid and gut of huge percentage of kids with autism.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

after his MMR.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Pretty much every group out there has its leader, followers, believers,

and many lists believe their way is the only way. And in some cases get nasty

if you don't agree. Autism_Mercury-Andy Cutler chelation, -Goldberg,

NeuroSensory Center-, Yasko, chelatingkids2-DAN, reversingautism, lyme,

vitaminK, Houston Homeopathy, and many more.

Truly I'm glad you had results with frequent low-dose chelation and wish you the

best.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

after his MMR.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

Don't have direct link to study, nor have I seen updates.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.h\

tml

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wake-Forest-University-School-of-Medicine/11204831\

8821400#!/pages/Wake-Forest-University-School-of-Medicine/112048318821400?sk=wal\

l

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/neutralground/autism-bowel-disease-may_n_54\

0635_45705060.html

>

> Would you mind forwarding the research paper re Wake U finding measles in

> children with autism?

>

> Thank you!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good to hear he has softened. Our experience was a significant problem with

adamant refusal to see our son any longer unless we agreed to the vaccination.

> > > >

> > > > > Dr G wanted to give MMR booster to my healthy , normally developing

son who

> > >had a MMR reaction at 1yr and proceeded to lose all language and eye

contact. We

> > >settled on titer test and found it to be off the chart high. Indicative of

the

> > >findings of vaccine strain in cerebral, spinal fluid and gut - where it's

not

> > >supposed to be.

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > We used a HIGH VITAMIN A PROTOCOL that took 48 hrs and cost under $20

and

> > >had eye contact and amazing cognitive leaps within a week or two.

> > > > > (never did get MMR booster or any other vaccines)

> > > > >

> > > > > YMMV

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In , " rhondamasengale " <rhondamasengale@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

> > >viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son

regressed

> > >after his MMR.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Ditto for us!

> Dr G wanted to give MMR booster to my healthy , normally developing son who

had

>a MMR reaction at 1yr and proceeded to lose all language and eye contact. We

>settled on titer test and found it to be off the chart high. Indicative of the

>findings of vaccine strain in cerebral, spinal fluid and gut - where it's not

>supposed to be.

>

>

> We used a HIGH VITAMIN A PROTOCOL that took 48 hrs and cost under $20 and had

>eye contact and amazing cognitive leaps within a week or two.

> (never did get MMR booster or any other vaccines)

>

> YMMV

>

>

> >

> > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses?

>I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed after his

>MMR.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Related to safety of vaccines program if you have not already heard

http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/LORD.TEMBENIS112910.pdf

________________________________

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill@...>

Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 7:50:41 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Do nids docs use Amantadine?

I would not agree that Dr G recommends vaccines. I have spoken with him at

length and my experience is that he will recommend certain vaccines that he

feels the catching the illness out weights the potential harm from the vaccine

and only when the child's health is at a point he feels there will not be a

reaction. In other words he will not vaccinate a sick child and only if in a

situation like Meningitis or pneumonia entering high school.

Additionally I told him I just did not trust the entire program and he never

brought it up again.

Bill

________________________________

From: rhondamasengale <rhondamasengale@...>

Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 9:51:30 AM

Subject: Re: Do nids docs use Amantadine?

Hi , yes, I know I am the decision maker but I just can't see a doc

working with kids that are immune-deficient recommending more vaccines for them,

especially the MMR, it seems to be THE one that *most* feel got us here in the

first place. I wonder what his reasoning behind this is. Plus, I've been hearing

how rude he is when someone doesn't agree with him and I would not want to get

yelled at for refusing to give my child vaccs he recommended. I'm still

dumbfounded he would recommend vaccs, to immune-deficient kids! And from what

I've been reading, if I refuse, I can expect a great tongue lashing. Has anyone

on this board given their vaccine-injured children more vaccs at a nids Doc

request?

> > > >

> > > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

>viruses? I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed

>after his MMR.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for clearing that up for me , I feel much better about going now!

We plan to go in March. I really think this protocol will help my boys. I am

excited again to start! You've helped me bunches! Thanks!

Rhonda Masengale

On Dec 22, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

wrote:

> Ditto for us!

>

>

>

> > Dr G wanted to give MMR booster to my healthy , normally developing son who

had

>

> >a MMR reaction at 1yr and proceeded to lose all language and eye contact. We

>

> >settled on titer test and found it to be off the chart high. Indicative of

the

>

> >findings of vaccine strain in cerebral, spinal fluid and gut - where it's not

>

> >supposed to be.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > We used a HIGH VITAMIN A PROTOCOL that took 48 hrs and cost under $20 and

had

>

> >eye contact and amazing cognitive leaps within a week or two.

>

> > (never did get MMR booster or any other vaccines)

>

> >

>

> > YMMV

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> > > I was wondering if anyone has had their kiddos on Amantadine for RNA

viruses?

>

> >I was thinking it might help with the measles virus. My son regressed after

his

>

> >MMR.

>

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>

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