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You have such a kind way of responding.  You're an awesome representative for

.  Thank you.

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From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...>

Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:22:23 AM

Subject: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other autism

lists

 

List mates,

This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background. Margo's

son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per her

DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill. Margo

is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I read

her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for who he

is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to play it

forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't necessarily

agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and . There

are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow up

with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are doing.

So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can get

better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

Thanks,

Marcia

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Posted by: " Sally Averkamp "

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saverkamp@... <madsalpal> madsalpal

Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

There

is a separate group for that.

We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

elements,

and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group for Dr.

Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing this

on

that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even more

dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to make

persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are trying

to

the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up from

various sources without someone adding more.

Sally

My answer to Sally

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g1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTQxNjY3> Re: Supplements are not

necessarily safer than prescription medicate

Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

<mailto:hindssite@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%20n

ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate> hindssite@...

<hindssite> hindssite

Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

Sally,

I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our gut and

do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we went

forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be okay

once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a setback,

her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid got

a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water and

increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

stuff faster.

The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the right

time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered, but

fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to leave

the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people helped

me.

The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve and get

better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already know

about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is better

now.

Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help her

child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying to

do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and therapist

all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept your

child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can help

in anyway.

Marcia Hinds

805 497-8202

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You are very right about  Marcia. LOL

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From: <thecolemans4@...>

Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 2:01:30 AM

Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

autism lists

 

You have such a kind way of responding.  You're an awesome representative for

.  Thank you.

________________________________

From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...>

Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:22:23 AM

Subject: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other autism

lists

 

List mates,

This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background. Margo's

son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per her

DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill. Margo

is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I read

her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for who he

is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to play it

forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't necessarily

agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and . There

are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow up

with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are doing.

So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can get

better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

Thanks,

Marcia

4g.

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necessarily safer than prescription medications

Posted by: " Sally Averkamp "

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saverkamp@... <madsalpal> madsalpal

Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

There

is a separate group for that.

We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

elements,

and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group for Dr.

Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing this

on

that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even more

dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to make

persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are trying

to

the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up from

various sources without someone adding more.

Sally

My answer to Sally

<mb12 valtrex/message/98855;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODNpNm

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g1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTQxNjY3> Re: Supplements are not

necessarily safer than prescription medicate

Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

<mailto:hindssite@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%20n

ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate> hindssite@...

<hindssite> hindssite

Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

Sally,

I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our gut and

do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we went

forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be okay

once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a setback,

her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid got

a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water and

increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

stuff faster.

The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the right

time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered, but

fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to leave

the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people helped

me.

The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve and get

better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already know

about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is better

now.

Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help her

child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying to

do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and therapist

all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept your

child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can help

in anyway.

Marcia Hinds

805 497-8202

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Oh, I agree 100%, . Marcia, you are doing so much good and helping

so many people. We also started down the DAN road after my son's diagnosis,

and I could be where Margo is today if I didn't 'happen upon' you and Dr.

Goldberg's protocol. We haven't even begun treatment with Dr.

(still trying to get blood tests here in Canada!!!) but have seen dramatic

improvements by just eliminating immune system triggers. The only other

supplement at this time is Kyodophilus. It just made sense to me that the

reason these children are deficient in certain vitamins is because their

little bodies are just not working properly. Evidence now indicates that

many autistic children have immune, digestive and endocrine systems that are

not functioning normally, and they really do need medical treatment. Please

try to stay strong, Margo. Your son is lucky to have a mom like you who is

fighting so hard for him.

Best wishes,

_____

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Sent: December 5, 2010 1:02 PM

Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

autism lists

You have such a kind way of responding. You're an awesome representative

for

. Thank you.

________________________________

From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...

<mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:22:23 AM

Subject: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

autism

lists

List mates,

This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background. Margo's

son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per her

DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill. Margo

is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I read

her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for who he

is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to play it

forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't necessarily

agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and . There

are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow up

with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are doing.

So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can get

better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

Thanks,

Marcia

4g.

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necessarily safer than prescription medications

Posted by: " Sally Averkamp "

<mailto:saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

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<madsalpal> madsalpal

Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

There

is a separate group for that.

We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

elements,

and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group for Dr.

Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing this

on

that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even more

dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to make

persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are trying

to

the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up from

various sources without someone adding more.

Sally

My answer to Sally

<mb12 valtrex/message/98855;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODNpNm

pnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

g1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTQxNjY3> Re: Supplements are not

necessarily safer than prescription medicate

Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

<mailto:hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%20n

ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate> hindssite@...

<mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

<hindssite> hindssite

Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

Sally,

I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our gut and

do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we went

forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be okay

once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a setback,

her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid got

a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water and

increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

stuff faster.

The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the right

time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered, but

fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to leave

the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people helped

me.

The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve and get

better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already know

about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is better

now.

Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help her

child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying to

do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and therapist

all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept your

child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can help

in anyway.

Marcia Hinds

805 497-8202

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Amen to that! I don't know what I would do without your counsel and support. We

have to be so careful as parents to first do no harm to our child in our quest

to heal them; however, that's not always easy because we so desperately want

them to get better. It's good to have people who can pull us back from the

ledge. Your posts are always so caring and supportive.

All the best,

Robyn

From: <thecolemans4@...>

Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

autism lists

Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 10:01 AM

 

You have such a kind way of responding.  You're an awesome representative

for

.  Thank you.

________________________________

From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...>

Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:22:23 AM

Subject: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other autism

lists

 

List mates,

This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background. Margo's

son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per her

DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill. Margo

is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I read

her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for who he

is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to play it

forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't necessarily

agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and . There

are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow up

with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are doing.

So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can get

better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

Thanks,

Marcia

4g.

<mb12 valtrex/message/98854;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbmZlbT

kyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

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necessarily safer than prescription medications

Posted by: " Sally Averkamp "

<mailto:saverkamp@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%2

0necessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicati>

saverkamp@... <madsalpal> madsalpal

Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

There

is a separate group for that.

We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

elements,

and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group for Dr.

Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing this

on

that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even more

dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to make

persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are trying

to

the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up from

various sources without someone adding more.

Sally

My answer to Sally

<mb12 valtrex/message/98855;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODNpNm

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necessarily safer than prescription medicate

Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

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ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate> hindssite@...

<hindssite> hindssite

Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

Sally,

I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our gut and

do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we went

forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be okay

once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a setback,

her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid got

a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water and

increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

stuff faster.

The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the right

time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered, but

fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to leave

the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people helped

me.

The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve and get

better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already know

about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is better

now.

Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help her

child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying to

do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and therapist

all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept your

child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can help

in anyway.

Marcia Hinds

805 497-8202

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Hi Marcia,

I feel really badly that I haven't had the chance to call you back. No, I do

not want you to stop calling me! I have just been busy and involved with

, other 2 daughters and life! Everything fine just busy and in a million

directions. I hope all is well with you and your family. Happy Hanukkah! I

was just finishing up and have been thinking about you so wanted to apologize

and let you know it has nothing to do with you. Keep up the good work. I wish

I had your focus and energy. I just don't have time to save the world and

right now. I give you full credit. Be in touch!

Judy

We must spread the word our kids can get better to other autism

lists

List mates,

This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background. Margo's

son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per her

DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill. Margo

is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I read

her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for who he

is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to play it

forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't necessarily

agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and . There

are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow up

with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are doing.

So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can get

better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

Thanks,

Marcia

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necessarily safer than prescription medications

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saverkamp@... <madsalpal> madsalpal

Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

There

is a separate group for that.

We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

elements,

and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group for Dr.

Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing this

on

that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even more

dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to make

persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are trying

to

the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up from

various sources without someone adding more.

Sally

My answer to Sally

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g1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTQxNjY3> Re: Supplements are not

necessarily safer than prescription medicate

Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

<mailto:hindssite@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%20n

ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate> hindssite@...

<hindssite> hindssite

Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

Sally,

I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our gut and

do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we went

forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be okay

once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a setback,

her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid got

a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water and

increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

stuff faster.

The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the right

time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered, but

fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to leave

the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people helped

me.

The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve and get

better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already know

about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is better

now.

Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help her

child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying to

do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and therapist

all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept your

child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can help

in anyway.

Marcia Hinds

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What are immune system triggers ? Thank you,Tammy F.

>

> Oh, I agree 100%, . Marcia, you are doing so much good and helping

> so many people. We also started down the DAN road after my son's

> diagnosis,

> and I could be where Margo is today if I didn't 'happen upon' you and Dr.

> Goldberg's protocol. We haven't even begun treatment with Dr.

> (still trying to get blood tests here in Canada!!!) but have seen dramatic

> improvements by just eliminating immune system triggers. The only other

> supplement at this time is Kyodophilus. It just made sense to me that the

> reason these children are deficient in certain vitamins is because their

> little bodies are just not working properly. Evidence now indicates that

> many autistic children have immune, digestive and endocrine systems

> that are

> not functioning normally, and they really do need medical treatment.

> Please

> try to stay strong, Margo. Your son is lucky to have a mom like you who is

> fighting so hard for him.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: <mailto:%40>

> [mailto: <mailto:%40>] On Behalf Of

>

> Sent: December 5, 2010 1:02 PM

> <mailto:%40>

> Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to

> other

> autism lists

>

> You have such a kind way of responding. You're an awesome representative

> for

> . Thank you.

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net> >

> <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:22:23 AM

> Subject: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

> autism

> lists

>

> List mates,

>

> This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

> Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background. Margo's

> son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per her

> DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill. Margo

> is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I read

> her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for

> who he

> is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

> us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

> and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to

> play it

> forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

>

> But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't

> necessarily

> agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and .

> There

> are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow up

> with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are

> doing.

> So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can get

> better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Marcia

>

> 4g.

>

> <mb12 valtrex/message/98854;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbmZlbT

> kyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

> g1NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTI1NTEw> Re: Supplements

> are not

> necessarily safer than prescription medications

>

> Posted by: " Sally Averkamp "

> <mailto:saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%2

> 0necessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicati>

> saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <madsalpal> madsalpal

>

> Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

>

> I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

> There

> is a separate group for that.

>

> We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

> elements,

> and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group

> for Dr.

>

> Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing

> this

> on

> that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even

> more

> dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to make

> persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are

> trying

> to

> the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up

> from

> various sources without someone adding more.

>

> Sally

>

> My answer to Sally

>

> <mb12 valtrex/message/98855;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODNpNm

> pnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

> g1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTQxNjY3> Re: Supplements

> are not

> necessarily safer than prescription medicate

>

> Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

> <mailto:hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%20n

> ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate>

> hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <hindssite> hindssite

>

> Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

>

> Sally,

>

> I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our

> gut and

> do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

> always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we went

> forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

> and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be

> okay

> once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a setback,

> her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

> vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid got

> a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water and

> increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

> stuff faster.

>

> The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the right

> time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered, but

> fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

> protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

> that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to leave

> the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

> book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

> and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people

> helped

> me.

>

> The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve

> and get

> better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already

> know

> about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

> Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is

> better

> now.

>

> Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help her

> child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

> her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

> anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

> decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

> and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying to

> do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

> feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

> needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and therapist

> all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept your

> child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

> been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can help

> in anyway.

>

> Marcia Hinds

>

> 805 497-8202

>

>

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Great reply Marcia! God put you in these lists and our lives to help us all, no

doubt about it. Why would someone want to stay in the angels' list when it is

others that need to be saved...hope you get my point.

 

From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...>

Subject: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other autism

lists

Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 9:22 AM

 

List mates,

This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background. Margo's

son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per her

DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill. Margo

is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I read

her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for who he

is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to play it

forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't necessarily

agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and . There

are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow up

with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are doing.

So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can get

better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

Thanks,

Marcia

4g.

<mb12 valtrex/message/98854;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbmZlbT

kyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

g1NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTI1NTEw> Re: Supplements are not

necessarily safer than prescription medications

Posted by: " Sally Averkamp "

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0necessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicati>

saverkamp@... <madsalpal> madsalpal

Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

There

is a separate group for that.

We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

elements,

and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group for Dr.

Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing this

on

that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even more

dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to make

persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are trying

to

the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up from

various sources without someone adding more.

Sally

My answer to Sally

<mb12 valtrex/message/98855;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODNpNm

pnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

g1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTQxNjY3> Re: Supplements are not

necessarily safer than prescription medicate

Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

<mailto:hindssite@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%20n

ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate> hindssite@...

<hindssite> hindssite

Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

Sally,

I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our gut and

do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we went

forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be okay

once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a setback,

her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid got

a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water and

increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

stuff faster.

The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the right

time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered, but

fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to leave

the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people helped

me.

The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve and get

better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already know

about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is better

now.

Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help her

child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying to

do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and therapist

all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept your

child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can help

in anyway.

Marcia Hinds

805 497-8202

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Marcia,

Thank you for being so courageous and playing it forward!

It can sometimes feel like a thankless task. Know that you

bring alot of hope and inspiration to many still in the grips

of this disease.

Thank you for not kicking back, but being there to help guide so many!

Gratefully,

Marilyn Binggeli

We must spread the word our kids can get better to other autism

lists

List mates,

This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background. Margo's

son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per her

DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill. Margo

is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I read

her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for who he

is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to play it

forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't necessarily

agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and . There

are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow up

with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are doing.

So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can get

better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

Thanks,

Marcia

4g.

<mb12 valtrex/message/98854;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbmZlbT

kyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

g1NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTI1NTEw> Re: Supplements are not

necessarily safer than prescription medications

Posted by: " Sally Averkamp "

<mailto:saverkamp@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%2

0necessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicati>

saverkamp@... <madsalpal> madsalpal

Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

There

is a separate group for that.

We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

elements,

and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group for Dr.

Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing this

on

that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even more

dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to make

persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are trying

to

the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up from

various sources without someone adding more.

Sally

My answer to Sally

<mb12 valtrex/message/98855;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODNpNm

pnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

g1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTQxNjY3> Re: Supplements are not

necessarily safer than prescription medicate

Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

<mailto:hindssite@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%20n

ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate> hindssite@...

<hindssite> hindssite

Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

Sally,

I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our gut and

do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we went

forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be okay

once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a setback,

her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid got

a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water and

increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

stuff faster.

The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the right

time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered, but

fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to leave

the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people helped

me.

The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve and get

better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already know

about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is better

now.

Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help her

child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying to

do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and therapist

all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept your

child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can help

in anyway.

Marcia Hinds

805 497-8202

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Hi Tammy,

We removed triggers from food (gluten, casein, tree nuts, sulphites,

nitrites, food dyes, artificial flavor/coloring, GMO's - genetically

modified organisms, soy and corn). Sugar also depresses the immune system

(I know this from my own personal experience) so we have tried to limit the

amount of sugar we eat. We also eliminated allergens from our environment,

such as toxic cleaning solutions, carpets, synthetic fabrics & bedding, and

non-stick and aluminum cookware. Both of my boys also now have air

purifiers in their rooms. Hope this helps.

All the best,

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Tammy

Farmer

Sent: December 6, 2010 10:40 PM

Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

autism lists

What are immune system triggers ? Thank you,Tammy F.

>

> Oh, I agree 100%, . Marcia, you are doing so much good and helping

> so many people. We also started down the DAN road after my son's

> diagnosis,

> and I could be where Margo is today if I didn't 'happen upon' you and Dr.

> Goldberg's protocol. We haven't even begun treatment with Dr.

> (still trying to get blood tests here in Canada!!!) but have seen dramatic

> improvements by just eliminating immune system triggers. The only other

> supplement at this time is Kyodophilus. It just made sense to me that the

> reason these children are deficient in certain vitamins is because their

> little bodies are just not working properly. Evidence now indicates that

> many autistic children have immune, digestive and endocrine systems

> that are

> not functioning normally, and they really do need medical treatment.

> Please

> try to stay strong, Margo. Your son is lucky to have a mom like you who is

> fighting so hard for him.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

> [mailto: <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>] On Behalf Of

>

> Sent: December 5, 2010 1:02 PM

> <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

> Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to

> other

> autism lists

>

> You have such a kind way of responding. You're an awesome representative

> for

> . Thank you.

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...

<mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net> >

> <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:22:23 AM

> Subject: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

> autism

> lists

>

> List mates,

>

> This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

> Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background. Margo's

> son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per her

> DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill. Margo

> is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I read

> her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for

> who he

> is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

> us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

> and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to

> play it

> forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

>

> But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't

> necessarily

> agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and .

> There

> are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow up

> with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are

> doing.

> So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can get

> better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Marcia

>

> 4g.

>

>

<mb12 valtrex/message/98854;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbmZlbT

>

kyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

> g1NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTI1NTEw> Re: Supplements

> are not

> necessarily safer than prescription medications

>

> Posted by: " Sally Averkamp "

> <mailto:saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

<mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%2

> 0necessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicati>

> saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

<mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <madsalpal> madsalpal

>

> Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

>

> I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

> There

> is a separate group for that.

>

> We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

> elements,

> and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group

> for Dr.

>

> Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing

> this

> on

> that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even

> more

> dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to make

> persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are

> trying

> to

> the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up

> from

> various sources without someone adding more.

>

> Sally

>

> My answer to Sally

>

>

<mb12 valtrex/message/98855;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODNpNm

>

pnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

> g1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTQxNjY3> Re: Supplements

> are not

> necessarily safer than prescription medicate

>

> Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

> <mailto:hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

<mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%20n

> ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate>

> hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

<mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <hindssite> hindssite

>

> Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

>

> Sally,

>

> I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our

> gut and

> do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

> always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we went

> forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

> and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be

> okay

> once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a setback,

> her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

> vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid got

> a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water and

> increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

> stuff faster.

>

> The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the right

> time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered, but

> fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

> protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

> that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to leave

> the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

> book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

> and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people

> helped

> me.

>

> The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve

> and get

> better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already

> know

> about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

> Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is

> better

> now.

>

> Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help her

> child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

> her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

> anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

> decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

> and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying to

> do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

> feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

> needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and therapist

> all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept your

> child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

> been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can help

> in anyway.

>

> Marcia Hinds

>

> 805 497-8202

>

>

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What kind of cookware is good to use instead of the nonstick?

Thanks,

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On Dec 23, 2010, at 3:10 AM, Randy son <randy.191@...> wrote:

> Hi Tammy,

>

> We removed triggers from food (gluten, casein, tree nuts, sulphites,

> nitrites, food dyes, artificial flavor/coloring, GMO's - genetically

> modified organisms, soy and corn). Sugar also depresses the immune system

> (I know this from my own personal experience) so we have tried to limit the

> amount of sugar we eat. We also eliminated allergens from our environment,

> such as toxic cleaning solutions, carpets, synthetic fabrics & bedding, and

> non-stick and aluminum cookware. Both of my boys also now have air

> purifiers in their rooms. Hope this helps.

>

> All the best,

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Tammy

> Farmer

> Sent: December 6, 2010 10:40 PM

>

> Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

> autism lists

>

> What are immune system triggers ? Thank you,Tammy F.

> >

> > Oh, I agree 100%, . Marcia, you are doing so much good and helping

> > so many people. We also started down the DAN road after my son's

> > diagnosis,

> > and I could be where Margo is today if I didn't 'happen upon' you and Dr.

> > Goldberg's protocol. We haven't even begun treatment with Dr.

> > (still trying to get blood tests here in Canada!!!) but have seen dramatic

> > improvements by just eliminating immune system triggers. The only other

> > supplement at this time is Kyodophilus. It just made sense to me that the

> > reason these children are deficient in certain vitamins is because their

> > little bodies are just not working properly. Evidence now indicates that

> > many autistic children have immune, digestive and endocrine systems

> > that are

> > not functioning normally, and they really do need medical treatment.

> > Please

> > try to stay strong, Margo. Your son is lucky to have a mom like you who is

> > fighting so hard for him.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > [mailto: <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>] On Behalf Of

> >

> > Sent: December 5, 2010 1:02 PM

> > <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to

> > other

> > autism lists

> >

> > You have such a kind way of responding. You're an awesome representative

> > for

> > . Thank you.

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net> >

> > <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > <mailto:%40>

> > Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:22:23 AM

> > Subject: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

> > autism

> > lists

> >

> > List mates,

> >

> > This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

> > Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background. Margo's

> > son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per her

> > DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill. Margo

> > is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I read

> > her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for

> > who he

> > is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

> > us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

> > and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to

> > play it

> > forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

> >

> > But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't

> > necessarily

> > agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and .

> > There

> > are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow up

> > with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are

> > doing.

> > So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can get

> > better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Marcia

> >

> > 4g.

> >

> >

> <mb12 valtrex/message/98854;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbmZlbT

> >

> kyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

> > g1NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTI1NTEw> Re: Supplements

> > are not

> > necessarily safer than prescription medications

> >

> > Posted by: " Sally Averkamp "

> > <mailto:saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%2

> > 0necessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicati>

> > saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > <madsalpal> madsalpal

> >

> > Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

> >

> > I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

> > There

> > is a separate group for that.

> >

> > We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

> > elements,

> > and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group

> > for Dr.

> >

> > Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing

> > this

> > on

> > that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even

> > more

> > dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to make

> > persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are

> > trying

> > to

> > the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up

> > from

> > various sources without someone adding more.

> >

> > Sally

> >

> > My answer to Sally

> >

> >

> <mb12 valtrex/message/98855;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODNpNm

> >

> pnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

> > g1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTQxNjY3> Re: Supplements

> > are not

> > necessarily safer than prescription medicate

> >

> > Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

> > <mailto:hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%20n

> > ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate>

> > hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <hindssite> hindssite

> >

> > Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

> >

> > Sally,

> >

> > I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our

> > gut and

> > do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

> > always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we went

> > forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

> > and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be

> > okay

> > once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a setback,

> > her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

> > vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid got

> > a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water and

> > increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

> > stuff faster.

> >

> > The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the right

> > time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered, but

> > fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

> > protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

> > that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to leave

> > the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

> > book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

> > and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people

> > helped

> > me.

> >

> > The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve

> > and get

> > better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already

> > know

> > about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

> > Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is

> > better

> > now.

> >

> > Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help her

> > child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

> > her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

> > anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

> > decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

> > and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying to

> > do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

> > feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

> > needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and therapist

> > all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept your

> > child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

> > been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can help

> > in anyway.

> >

> > Marcia Hinds

> >

> > 805 497-8202

> >

> >

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I use stainless steel and cast iron. The cast iron is heavy but actually adds

iron to the diet which helps our kids a lot.

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" " < >

Sent: Thu, December 23, 2010 7:23:51 AM

Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

autism lists

Hey

What kind of cookware is good to use instead of the nonstick?

Thanks,

Kamal

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 23, 2010, at 3:10 AM, Randy son <randy.191@...> wrote:

> Hi Tammy,

>

> We removed triggers from food (gluten, casein, tree nuts, sulphites,

> nitrites, food dyes, artificial flavor/coloring, GMO's - genetically

> modified organisms, soy and corn). Sugar also depresses the immune system

> (I know this from my own personal experience) so we have tried to limit the

> amount of sugar we eat. We also eliminated allergens from our environment,

> such as toxic cleaning solutions, carpets, synthetic fabrics & bedding, and

> non-stick and aluminum cookware. Both of my boys also now have air

> purifiers in their rooms. Hope this helps.

>

> All the best,

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Tammy

> Farmer

> Sent: December 6, 2010 10:40 PM

>

> Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

> autism lists

>

> What are immune system triggers ? Thank you,Tammy F.

> >

> > Oh, I agree 100%, . Marcia, you are doing so much good and helping

> > so many people. We also started down the DAN road after my son's

> > diagnosis,

> > and I could be where Margo is today if I didn't 'happen upon' you and Dr.

> > Goldberg's protocol. We haven't even begun treatment with Dr.

> > (still trying to get blood tests here in Canada!!!) but have seen dramatic

> > improvements by just eliminating immune system triggers. The only other

> > supplement at this time is Kyodophilus. It just made sense to me that the

> > reason these children are deficient in certain vitamins is because their

> > little bodies are just not working properly. Evidence now indicates that

> > many autistic children have immune, digestive and endocrine systems

> > that are

> > not functioning normally, and they really do need medical treatment.

> > Please

> > try to stay strong, Margo. Your son is lucky to have a mom like you who is

> > fighting so hard for him.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > [mailto: <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>] On Behalf Of

> >

> > Sent: December 5, 2010 1:02 PM

> > <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to

> > other

> > autism lists

> >

> > You have such a kind way of responding. You're an awesome representative

> > for

> > . Thank you.

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net> >

> > <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > <mailto:%40>

> > Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:22:23 AM

> > Subject: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

> > autism

> > lists

> >

> > List mates,

> >

> > This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

> > Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background. Margo's

> > son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per her

> > DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill. Margo

> > is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I read

> > her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for

> > who he

> > is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

> > us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

> > and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to

> > play it

> > forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

> >

> > But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't

> > necessarily

> > agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and .

> > There

> > are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow up

> > with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are

> > doing.

> > So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can get

> > better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Marcia

> >

> > 4g.

> >

> >

> <mb12 valtrex/message/98854;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbmZlbT

> >

> kyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

> > g1NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTI1NTEw> Re: Supplements

> > are not

> > necessarily safer than prescription medications

> >

> > Posted by: " Sally Averkamp "

> > <mailto:saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%2

> > 0necessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicati>

> > saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > <madsalpal> madsalpal

> >

> > Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

> >

> > I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

> > There

> > is a separate group for that.

> >

> > We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

> > elements,

> > and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group

> > for Dr.

> >

> > Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing

> > this

> > on

> > that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even

> > more

> > dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to make

> > persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are

> > trying

> > to

> > the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up

> > from

> > various sources without someone adding more.

> >

> > Sally

> >

> > My answer to Sally

> >

> >

> <mb12 valtrex/message/98855;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODNpNm

> >

> pnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

> > g1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTQxNjY3> Re: Supplements

> > are not

> > necessarily safer than prescription medicate

> >

> > Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

> > <mailto:hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%20n

> > ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate>

> > hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <hindssite> hindssite

> >

> > Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

> >

> > Sally,

> >

> > I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our

> > gut and

> > do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

> > always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we went

> > forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

> > and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be

> > okay

> > once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a setback,

> > her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

> > vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid got

> > a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water and

> > increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

> > stuff faster.

> >

> > The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the right

> > time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered, but

> > fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

> > protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

> > that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to leave

> > the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

> > book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

> > and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people

> > helped

> > me.

> >

> > The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve

> > and get

> > better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already

> > know

> > about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

> > Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is

> > better

> > now.

> >

> > Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help her

> > child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

> > her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

> > anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

> > decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

> > and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying to

> > do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

> > feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

> > needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and therapist

> > all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept your

> > child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

> > been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can help

> > in anyway.

> >

> > Marcia Hinds

> >

> > 805 497-8202

> >

> >

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I believe cast iron and stainless steel are recommended.that's what we use.

:-)

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kamal

Dodeja

Sent: December 23, 2010 7:24 AM

Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

autism lists

Hey

What kind of cookware is good to use instead of the nonstick?

Thanks,

Kamal

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 23, 2010, at 3:10 AM, Randy son <randy.191@...

<mailto:randy.191%40sympatico.ca> > wrote:

> Hi Tammy,

>

> We removed triggers from food (gluten, casein, tree nuts, sulphites,

> nitrites, food dyes, artificial flavor/coloring, GMO's - genetically

> modified organisms, soy and corn). Sugar also depresses the immune system

> (I know this from my own personal experience) so we have tried to limit

the

> amount of sugar we eat. We also eliminated allergens from our environment,

> such as toxic cleaning solutions, carpets, synthetic fabrics & bedding,

and

> non-stick and aluminum cookware. Both of my boys also now have air

> purifiers in their rooms. Hope this helps.

>

> All the best,

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

Tammy

> Farmer

> Sent: December 6, 2010 10:40 PM

> <mailto:%40>

> Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to

other

> autism lists

>

> What are immune system triggers ? Thank you,Tammy F.

> >

> > Oh, I agree 100%, . Marcia, you are doing so much good and

helping

> > so many people. We also started down the DAN road after my son's

> > diagnosis,

> > and I could be where Margo is today if I didn't 'happen upon' you and

Dr.

> > Goldberg's protocol. We haven't even begun treatment with Dr.

> > (still trying to get blood tests here in Canada!!!) but have seen

dramatic

> > improvements by just eliminating immune system triggers. The only other

> > supplement at this time is Kyodophilus. It just made sense to me that

the

> > reason these children are deficient in certain vitamins is because their

> > little bodies are just not working properly. Evidence now indicates that

> > many autistic children have immune, digestive and endocrine systems

> > that are

> > not functioning normally, and they really do need medical treatment.

> > Please

> > try to stay strong, Margo. Your son is lucky to have a mom like you who

is

> > fighting so hard for him.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > [mailto: <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>] On Behalf Of

> >

> > Sent: December 5, 2010 1:02 PM

> > <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to

> > other

> > autism lists

> >

> > You have such a kind way of responding. You're an awesome representative

> > for

> > . Thank you.

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...

<mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net> >

> > <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > <mailto:%40>

> > Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:22:23 AM

> > Subject: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

> > autism

> > lists

> >

> > List mates,

> >

> > This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

> > Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background.

Margo's

> > son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per

her

> > DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill.

Margo

> > is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I

read

> > her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for

> > who he

> > is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

> > us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

> > and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to

> > play it

> > forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

> >

> > But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't

> > necessarily

> > agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and .

> > There

> > are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow

up

> > with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are

> > doing.

> > So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can

get

> > better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Marcia

> >

> > 4g.

> >

> >

>

<mb12 valtrex/message/98854;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbmZlbT

> >

>

kyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

> > g1NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTI1NTEw> Re: Supplements

> > are not

> > necessarily safer than prescription medications

> >

> > Posted by: " Sally Averkamp "

> > <mailto:saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

<mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%2

> > 0necessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicati>

> > saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

<mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > <madsalpal> madsalpal

> >

> > Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

> >

> > I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

> > There

> > is a separate group for that.

> >

> > We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

> > elements,

> > and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group

> > for Dr.

> >

> > Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing

> > this

> > on

> > that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even

> > more

> > dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to

make

> > persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are

> > trying

> > to

> > the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up

> > from

> > various sources without someone adding more.

> >

> > Sally

> >

> > My answer to Sally

> >

> >

>

<mb12 valtrex/message/98855;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODNpNm

> >

>

pnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

> > g1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTQxNjY3> Re: Supplements

> > are not

> > necessarily safer than prescription medicate

> >

> > Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

> > <mailto:hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

<mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%20n

> > ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate>

> > hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

<mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <hindssite> hindssite

> >

> > Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

> >

> > Sally,

> >

> > I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our

> > gut and

> > do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

> > always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we

went

> > forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

> > and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be

> > okay

> > once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a

setback,

> > her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

> > vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid

got

> > a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water

and

> > increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

> > stuff faster.

> >

> > The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the

right

> > time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered,

but

> > fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

> > protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

> > that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to

leave

> > the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

> > book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

> > and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people

> > helped

> > me.

> >

> > The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve

> > and get

> > better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already

> > know

> > about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

> > Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is

> > better

> > now.

> >

> > Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help

her

> > child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

> > her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

> > anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

> > decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

> > and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying

to

> > do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

> > feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

> > needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and

therapist

> > all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept

your

> > child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

> > been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can

help

> > in anyway.

> >

> > Marcia Hinds

> >

> > 805 497-8202

> >

> >

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Thanks darling!

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 23, 2010, at 11:58 PM, Randy son <randy.191@...> wrote:

> I believe cast iron and stainless steel are recommended.that's what we use.

>

> :-)

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kamal

> Dodeja

> Sent: December 23, 2010 7:24 AM

>

> Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

> autism lists

>

> Hey

> What kind of cookware is good to use instead of the nonstick?

> Thanks,

> Kamal

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On Dec 23, 2010, at 3:10 AM, Randy son <randy.191@...

> <mailto:randy.191%40sympatico.ca> > wrote:

>

> > Hi Tammy,

> >

> > We removed triggers from food (gluten, casein, tree nuts, sulphites,

> > nitrites, food dyes, artificial flavor/coloring, GMO's - genetically

> > modified organisms, soy and corn). Sugar also depresses the immune system

> > (I know this from my own personal experience) so we have tried to limit

> the

> > amount of sugar we eat. We also eliminated allergens from our environment,

> > such as toxic cleaning solutions, carpets, synthetic fabrics & bedding,

> and

> > non-stick and aluminum cookware. Both of my boys also now have air

> > purifiers in their rooms. Hope this helps.

> >

> > All the best,

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: <mailto:%40>

> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

> Tammy

> > Farmer

> > Sent: December 6, 2010 10:40 PM

> > <mailto:%40>

> > Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to

> other

> > autism lists

> >

> > What are immune system triggers ? Thank you,Tammy F.

> > >

> > > Oh, I agree 100%, . Marcia, you are doing so much good and

> helping

> > > so many people. We also started down the DAN road after my son's

> > > diagnosis,

> > > and I could be where Margo is today if I didn't 'happen upon' you and

> Dr.

> > > Goldberg's protocol. We haven't even begun treatment with Dr.

> > > (still trying to get blood tests here in Canada!!!) but have seen

> dramatic

> > > improvements by just eliminating immune system triggers. The only other

> > > supplement at this time is Kyodophilus. It just made sense to me that

> the

> > > reason these children are deficient in certain vitamins is because their

> > > little bodies are just not working properly. Evidence now indicates that

> > > many autistic children have immune, digestive and endocrine systems

> > > that are

> > > not functioning normally, and they really do need medical treatment.

> > > Please

> > > try to stay strong, Margo. Your son is lucky to have a mom like you who

> is

> > > fighting so hard for him.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > <mailto:%40>

> > > [mailto: <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > <mailto:%40>] On Behalf Of

> > >

> > > Sent: December 5, 2010 1:02 PM

> > > <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > <mailto:%40>

> > > Subject: Re: We must spread the word our kids can get better to

> > > other

> > > autism lists

> > >

> > > You have such a kind way of responding. You're an awesome representative

> > > for

> > > . Thank you.

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@...

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net> >

> > > <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> > <mailto:%40>

> > > <mailto:%40>

> > > Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 11:22:23 AM

> > > Subject: We must spread the word our kids can get better to other

> > > autism

> > > lists

> > >

> > > List mates,

> > >

> > > This following is a post on another list (mb12Valtrex list) where a mom,

> > > Sally, asked me to stop talking about Dr. G. Just for background.

> Margo's

> > > son got very sick because she was giving him too much vitamin A as per

> her

> > > DAN doctor's prescription. His hair fell out and he was really ill.

> Margo

> > > is a great mom who was trying to help her kid. My heart ached when I

> read

> > > her words, " I am just so tired ... I am ready to just accept him for

> > > who he

> > > is and stop all of this... I don't want to hurt him anymore " But none of

> > > us can stop until our kids get better. We have all been there like Margo

> > > and need to give parents a protocol that does something. We need to

> > > play it

> > > forward. We are all here because someone helped us learn about .

> > >

> > > But what it shows me is that we all need to be on lists we don't

> > > necessarily

> > > agree with so moms learn about Dr. and Dr. Goldberg and .

> > > There

> > > are too many kids getting dangerous care from doctors that don't follow

> up

> > > with blood work and don't keep as close an eye on how these kids are

> > > doing.

> > > So I need your help spreading the word that these kids are ill and can

> get

> > > better with treatment. My answer to Sally is after her post below.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Marcia

> > >

> > > 4g.

> > >

> > >

> >

> <mb12 valtrex/message/98854;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbmZlbT

> > >

> >

> kyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

> > > g1NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTI1NTEw> Re: Supplements

> > > are not

> > > necessarily safer than prescription medications

> > >

> > > Posted by: " Sally Averkamp "

> > > <mailto:saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > > <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > > ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%2

> > > 0necessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicati>

> > > saverkamp@... <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > > <mailto:saverkamp%40sbcglobal.net>

> > > <madsalpal> madsalpal

> > >

> > > Sat Dec 4, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)

> > >

> > > I stand behind my post: Please, enough on Dr. Goldberg and his protocol.

> > > There

> > > is a separate group for that.

> > >

> > > We are on this group to discuss a certain protocol, its related

> > > elements,

> > > and I would like to do that. In all fairness, there is another group

> > > for Dr.

> > >

> > > Goldberg's protocol and I do not understand why you are not discussing

> > > this

> > > on

> > > that group. Comments like, " Supplements have the potential to be even

> > > more

> > > dangerous than prescription medications " could possibly be trying to

> make

> > > persons following this protocol to feel guilty and I think we all are

> > > trying

> > > to

> > > the best we can for our kids. We certainly have enough guilt piled up

> > > from

> > > various sources without someone adding more.

> > >

> > > Sally

> > >

> > > My answer to Sally

> > >

> > >

> >

> <mb12 valtrex/message/98855;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODNpNm

> > >

> >

> pnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NDk5NTI4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYxNgRtc2dJZAM5OD

> > > g1NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjkxNTQxNjY3> Re: Supplements

> > > are not

> > > necessarily safer than prescription medicate

> > >

> > > Posted by: " and Marcia Hinds "

> > > <mailto:hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > > ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Supplements%20are%20not%20n

> > > ecessarily%20safer%20than%20prescription%20medicate>

> > > hindssite@... <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > > <mailto:hindssite%40verizon.net>

> > > <hindssite> hindssite

> > >

> > > Sat Dec 4, 2010 10:31 pm (PST)

> > >

> > > Sally,

> > >

> > > I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all have to trust our

> > > gut and

> > > do what we think is best for our children. That what I did. I didn't

> > > always do things right and sometimes it was ten steps back before we

> went

> > > forward again. Similar to what Margo is experiencing now. It is so hard

> > > and tiring to keep at this day in and day out. But Margo's son will be

> > > okay

> > > once the vitamin A level evens out. This is not permanent, just a

> setback,

> > > her post to this list probably saved many others from giving too much

> > > vitamin A to their kids. Over time I have learned that whenever my kid

> got

> > > a food he wasn't supposed to have I would have him drink lots of water

> and

> > > increase his exercise. This helps speed up the system to get rid of bad

> > > stuff faster.

> > >

> > > The only reason my kid is better is because I was right place at the

> right

> > > time to learn about Dr. G. My son is recovered; not sort of recovered,

> but

> > > fully recovered and it wouldn't have happened without Dr. Goldberg's

> > > protocol. My son is in college and living a full productive life. I want

> > > that for all kids on the spectrum. I would love nothing more than to

> leave

> > > the autism world and spend my days going out to lunch or reading a good

> > > book. However, we all need to play it forward. I know how fortunate I am

> > > and that's why I have a responsibility to help others, the way people

> > > helped

> > > me.

> > >

> > > The people on the list know Dr. G's protocol helps kids improve

> > > and get

> > > better. Why would I stay on that list and only tell people who already

> > > know

> > > about it? It's this list that needs to know about other choices. Stan

> > > Kurtz own child was treated by Dr. Goldberg. Maybe that is why he is

> > > better

> > > now.

> > >

> > > Margo did what any of us do. She did what she thought was best to help

> her

> > > child. I hope she stops beating herself up and doesn't stop fighting for

> > > her son. She is a great mom who deeply loves her child and would do

> > > anything to help him. We all make mistakes at times, but we have to make

> > > decisions on the information we have at the time. That is what Margo did

> > > and I hope she knows how much we all admire her for what she was trying

> to

> > > do to help her son. Someone who works as hard as she has, should never

> > > feel bad about doing what she thought was right at the time. I know she

> > > needs to take a break from being doctor, teacher, protector and

> therapist

> > > all rolled into one and just be mommy. But please Margo, never accept

> your

> > > child can't be helped or get better. Hang in there and know we have all

> > > been on the ledge where you are now. Never give up and call if I can

> help

> > > in anyway.

> > >

> > > Marcia Hinds

> > >

> > > 805 497-8202

> > >

> > >

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