Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

[Guest guest]

Yes, yes, yes!!! A source of continual frustration; however, in the past week,

we have seen some gains in expressive language. His speech therapist at school

told me that they are noticing as well. His processing time has improved as well

and I believe that's part of the reason that his expressive language is

blossoming. IMHO, expressive language is one of the last things to develop even

though they understand what they are being told. For Noah, it always seemed as

if he knew what he wanted to say but he couldn't quite figure out how to say it.

Slowly, that is turning around. This is after almost four years on the protocol.

All the best,

Robyn

From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

 

We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot

of

gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

similar experience?

Thanks,

Kay

[Guest guest]

Thanks Robyn & that is great news for you.

I think I relate to that as we do communicate without words like dragging to

object of interest etc.

Do you know which part (lobe) is responsible for expressive language. I

understand a bulk of the receptive is in the temporal lobe but the frontal

cortex, occipital get " looped in " for expressive but curious if anyone in the

list has more information on this & saw correlation of the hypothesis to say a

spect scan.

Thanks,

Kay

________________________________

From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 10:24:39 AM

Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Yes, yes, yes!!! A source of continual frustration; however, in the past week,

we have seen some gains in expressive language. His speech therapist at school

told me that they are noticing as well. His processing time has improved as well

and I believe that's part of the reason that his expressive language is

blossoming. IMHO, expressive language is one of the last things to develop even

though they understand what they are being told. For Noah, it always seemed as

if he knew what he wanted to say but he couldn't quite figure out how to say it.

Slowly, that is turning around. This is after almost four years on the protocol.

All the best,

Robyn

From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

similar experience?

Thanks,

Kay

[Guest guest]

Check this site out. It really helps regarding the different parts of the brain

and their functions. How old is your son and how long has he been on the

protocol?

All the best,

Robyn

From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

similar experience?

Thanks,

Kay

[Guest guest]

4 yrs old & about 3 to 4 months into the protocol. I didn't get the link to the

site.

Kay

________________________________

From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 10:50:02 AM

Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Check this site out. It really helps regarding the different parts of the brain

and their functions. How old is your son and how long has he been on the

protocol?

All the best,

Robyn

From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

similar experience?

Thanks,

Kay

[Guest guest]

Also, I can not say enough about Neurofeedback that we did with Dr

Dogris in Bishop, Ca this past summer. Roff's expressive language went through

the roof!!! And it continues to improve. Dr. Goldberg approves of it apparently.

I highly recommend him. One child he started treating at 16 is now in his 3rd

year of college studying graphic design. His mother said his teachers called

during high school and said what Miracle has happened?

So, if you want to jump start your childs language while doing , think about

it. I can't wait to do more NF. It's expensive ($800 for iniitial mapping and

$100 per treatment after), but what else is new?

Hope this may help! You can order the DVD about this boy on line. It's called:

" JJ's Journey, A Journey About Autism. "

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

wrote:

Check this site out. It really helps regarding the different parts of the brain

and their functions. How old is your son and how long has he been on the

protocol?

All the best,

Robyn

From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

similar experience?

Thanks,

Kay

[Guest guest]

Robyn, can you send the link you are referring to? Sorry…I don’t see it.

Thanks

kathi

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Robyn &

Greg Coggins

Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:50 PM

Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Check this site out. It really helps regarding the different parts of the brain

and their functions. How old is your son and how long has he been on the

protocol?

All the best,

Robyn

--- On Sat, 12/11/10, Kay <kp_mlist@... <mailto:kp_mlist%40> >

wrote:

From: Kay <kp_mlist@... <mailto:kp_mlist%40> >

Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

<mailto:%40>

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 10:35 AM

Thanks Robyn & that is great news for you.

I think I relate to that as we do communicate without words like dragging to

object of interest etc.

Do you know which part (lobe) is responsible for expressive language. I

understand a bulk of the receptive is in the temporal lobe but the frontal

cortex, occipital get " looped in " for expressive but curious if anyone in the

list has more information on this & saw correlation of the hypothesis to say a

spect scan.

Thanks,

Kay

________________________________

From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...

<mailto:rngcoggs%40sbcglobal.net> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 10:24:39 AM

Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Yes, yes, yes!!! A source of continual frustration; however, in the past week,

we have seen some gains in expressive language. His speech therapist at school

told me that they are noticing as well. His processing time has improved as well

and I believe that's part of the reason that his expressive language is

blossoming. IMHO, expressive language is one of the last things to develop even

though they understand what they are being told. For Noah, it always seemed as

if he knew what he wanted to say but he couldn't quite figure out how to say it.

Slowly, that is turning around. This is after almost four years on the protocol.

All the best,

Robyn

--- On Sat, 12/11/10, Kay <kp_mlist@... <mailto:kp_mlist%40> >

wrote:

From: Kay <kp_mlist@... <mailto:kp_mlist%40> >

Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

<mailto:%40>

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

similar experience?

Thanks,

Kay

[Guest guest]

Sheryl,

Just out of curiousity, Sheryl, why did you go to Bishop? Do you living near

there? My parents live in Aspendell. How many sessions did your son have? I have

seen J J's Journey. My mother gave me the video after she went to a presentation

by his mother. It's amazing!!

All the best,

Robyn

From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

similar experience?

Thanks,

Kay

[Guest guest]

Sorry.

http://www.allabouttbi.com/partsofthebrain/

From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

similar experience?

Thanks,

Kay

[Guest guest]

I think the research paper posted recently (was it here?) is also very

interesting, as it documents significant regressions in expressive & receptive

speech during AIDS that is very similar (if not the same as?) to autism, and it

shows a sometimes complete recovery of those after treatment.

It's one of my favorite papers.  I've read it a few times a year for years. 

And

w/XMRV, it's making it's rounds of interest again.

________________________________

From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 6:31:35 PM

Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

 

Sorry.

http://www.allabouttbi.com/partsofthebrain/

From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

similar experience?

Thanks,

Kay

[Guest guest]

Hi, Robyn,

No I don't live near Bishop. I live 5 hours (in good weather) to the North. I

used a friend's condo for some of the time and stayed in a hotel in Bishop the

others. I went 5 weeks this past summer for 3-4 treatments per week. So, 15 to

18 visits.

I went to Dr Dogris because he is the one who treated JJ. I wanted the same

results!

I highly recommend it! I can't wait to take Roff again!

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

wrote:

Sheryl,

Just out of curiousity, Sheryl, why did you go to Bishop? Do you living near

there? My parents live in Aspendell. How many sessions did your son have? I have

seen J J's Journey. My mother gave me the video after she went to a presentation

by his mother. It's amazing!!

All the best,

Robyn

From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

similar experience?

Thanks,

Kay

[Guest guest]

I wonder how NF would help an adult like me w/anxiety and ocd?  Seems like I've

seen it as suggested treatment.

I'd have to wait till my husband is working again (anyone need a good technical

service engineer? He wants into the medical equipment now...), but I think I

need to be doing more than just meds.

________________________________

From: Sheryl <ssaturnino@...>

" " < >

Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 2:04:52 PM

Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

 

Also, I can not say enough about Neurofeedback that we did with Dr

Dogris in Bishop, Ca this past summer. Roff's expressive language went through

the roof!!! And it continues to improve. Dr. Goldberg approves of it apparently.

I highly recommend him. One child he started treating at 16 is now in his 3rd

year of college studying graphic design. His mother said his teachers called

during high school and said what Miracle has happened?

So, if you want to jump start your childs language while doing , think about

it. I can't wait to do more NF. It's expensive ($800 for iniitial mapping and

$100 per treatment after), but what else is new?

Hope this may help! You can order the DVD about this boy on line. It's called:

" JJ's Journey, A Journey About Autism. "

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

wrote:

Check this site out. It really helps regarding the different parts of the brain

and their functions. How old is your son and how long has he been on the

protocol?

All the best,

Robyn

From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

similar experience?

Thanks,

Kay

[Guest guest]

Awesome. Can't wait to try it.

On Sat Dec 11th, 2010 7:05 PM PST Sheryl wrote:

>Hi, Robyn,

>No I don't live near Bishop. I live 5 hours (in good weather) to the North. I

used a friend's condo for some of the time and stayed in a hotel in Bishop the

others. I went 5 weeks this past summer for 3-4 treatments per week. So, 15 to

18 visits.

>

>I went to Dr Dogris because he is the one who treated JJ. I wanted the same

results!

>

>I highly recommend it! I can't wait to take Roff again!

>

>Sheryl

>

>Sent from my iPhone

>

>On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

wrote:

>

>Sheryl,

>

>Just out of curiousity, Sheryl, why did you go to Bishop? Do you living near

there? My parents live in Aspendell. How many sessions did your son have? I have

seen J J's Journey. My mother gave me the video after she went to a presentation

by his mother. It's amazing!!

>

>All the best,

>

>Robyn

>

>

>

>From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

>

>Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

>

>

>

>Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

>

>We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

>

>gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

>

>similar experience?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Kay

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yay!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

wrote:

Awesome. Can't wait to try it.

On Sat Dec 11th, 2010 7:05 PM PST Sheryl wrote:

>Hi, Robyn,

>No I don't live near Bishop. I live 5 hours (in good weather) to the North. I

used a friend's condo for some of the time and stayed in a hotel in Bishop the

others. I went 5 weeks this past summer for 3-4 treatments per week. So, 15 to

18 visits.

>

>I went to Dr Dogris because he is the one who treated JJ. I wanted the same

results!

>

>I highly recommend it! I can't wait to take Roff again!

>

>Sheryl

>

>Sent from my iPhone

>

>On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

wrote:

>

>Sheryl,

>

>Just out of curiousity, Sheryl, why did you go to Bishop? Do you living near

there? My parents live in Aspendell. How many sessions did your son have? I have

seen J J's Journey. My mother gave me the video after she went to a presentation

by his mother. It's amazing!!

>

>All the best,

>

>Robyn

>

>

>

>From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

>

>Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

>

>

>

>Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

>

>We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

>

>gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

>

>similar experience?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Kay

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sheryl, Did you look into the other providers of Neurofeedback or is Dr Dogris

apart from the others?

Does the process entail sitting down for an hour or with electrodes strapped -

as I am thinking that may be a challenge for some toddlers.

Thanks,

Kay

________________________________

From: Sheryl <ssaturnino@...>

" " < >

Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 8:14:12 PM

Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Yay!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

wrote:

Awesome. Can't wait to try it.

On Sat Dec 11th, 2010 7:05 PM PST Sheryl wrote:

>Hi, Robyn,

>No I don't live near Bishop. I live 5 hours (in good weather) to the North. I

>used a friend's condo for some of the time and stayed in a hotel in Bishop the

>others. I went 5 weeks this past summer for 3-4 treatments per week. So, 15 to

>18 visits.

>

>

>I went to Dr Dogris because he is the one who treated JJ. I wanted the same

>results!

>

>I highly recommend it! I can't wait to take Roff again!

>

>Sheryl

>

>Sent from my iPhone

>

>On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

>wrote:

>

>Sheryl,

>

>Just out of curiousity, Sheryl, why did you go to Bishop? Do you living near

>there? My parents live in Aspendell. How many sessions did your son have? I

have

>seen J J's Journey. My mother gave me the video after she went to a

presentation

>by his mother. It's amazing!!

>

>All the best,

>

>Robyn

>

>

>

>From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

>

>Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

>

>

>

>Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

>

>We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

>

>gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

>

>similar experience?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Kay

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Kay,

I went to Dr Dogris because he has a proven track record of improving cognition,

speech, behavior, eye contact, Autism, social and siezures.

Treatment is 20 -30 minutes. He has developed a cap with electrodes. So it's

comfy, easy and quick to put on. He let's your child watch any DVD they want.

Bring a fave that you know they will be absorbed in. It's easy.

Afterwards he directs you to feed them high quality protien/food and drink

plenty of water.

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Kay <kp_mlist@...> wrote:

Sheryl, Did you look into the other providers of Neurofeedback or is Dr Dogris

apart from the others?

Does the process entail sitting down for an hour or with electrodes strapped -

as I am thinking that may be a challenge for some toddlers.

Thanks,

Kay

________________________________

From: Sheryl <ssaturnino@...>

" " < >

Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 8:14:12 PM

Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Yay!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

wrote:

Awesome. Can't wait to try it.

On Sat Dec 11th, 2010 7:05 PM PST Sheryl wrote:

>Hi, Robyn,

>No I don't live near Bishop. I live 5 hours (in good weather) to the North. I

>used a friend's condo for some of the time and stayed in a hotel in Bishop the

>others. I went 5 weeks this past summer for 3-4 treatments per week. So, 15 to

>18 visits.

>

>

>I went to Dr Dogris because he is the one who treated JJ. I wanted the same

>results!

>

>I highly recommend it! I can't wait to take Roff again!

>

>Sheryl

>

>Sent from my iPhone

>

>On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

>wrote:

>

>Sheryl,

>

>Just out of curiousity, Sheryl, why did you go to Bishop? Do you living near

>there? My parents live in Aspendell. How many sessions did your son have? I

have

>seen J J's Journey. My mother gave me the video after she went to a

presentation

>by his mother. It's amazing!!

>

>All the best,

>

>Robyn

>

>

>

>From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

>

>Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

>

>

>

>Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

>

>We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

>

>gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone had

>

>similar experience?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Kay

>

>

[Guest guest]

McCarthy mentioned NF helped her but not her son. I know many, many kids

who have tried it. I know 2 it helped.

>

> From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

>

> Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

>

>

>

> Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

>

> We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen a lot of

>

> gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech. Has anyone

had

>

> similar experience?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Kay

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheryl,

This does not sound like it's the typical Neurofeedback, where they

electrodes all over your head and they made you play games " with your "

mind, you don't have any buttons to play. I

Argie

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Sheryl wrote:

>

> Hi, Kay,

> I went to Dr Dogris because he has a proven track record of

> improving cognition, speech, behavior, eye contact, Autism, social

> and siezures.

>

> Treatment is 20 -30 minutes. He has developed a cap with electrodes.

> So it's comfy, easy and quick to put on. He let's your child watch

> any DVD they want. Bring a fave that you know they will be absorbed

> in. It's easy.

>

> Afterwards he directs you to feed them high quality protien/food and

> drink plenty of water.

>

> Sheryl

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Kay <kp_mlist@...> wrote:

>

> Sheryl, Did you look into the other providers of Neurofeedback or is

> Dr Dogris

> apart from the others?

> Does the process entail sitting down for an hour or with electrodes

> strapped -

> as I am thinking that may be a challenge for some toddlers.

>

> Thanks,

> Kay

>

> ________________________________

> From: Sheryl <ssaturnino@...>

> " " < >

> Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 8:14:12 PM

> Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

>

> Yay!

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...

> >

> wrote:

>

> Awesome. Can't wait to try it.

>

> On Sat Dec 11th, 2010 7:05 PM PST Sheryl wrote:

>

> >Hi, Robyn,

> >No I don't live near Bishop. I live 5 hours (in good weather) to

> the North. I

> >used a friend's condo for some of the time and stayed in a hotel in

> Bishop the

> >others. I went 5 weeks this past summer for 3-4 treatments per

> week. So, 15 to

> >18 visits.

> >

> >

> >I went to Dr Dogris because he is the one who treated JJ. I wanted

> the same

> >results!

> >

> >I highly recommend it! I can't wait to take Roff again!

> >

> >Sheryl

> >

> >Sent from my iPhone

> >

> >On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...

> >

> >wrote:

> >

> >Sheryl,

> >

> >Just out of curiousity, Sheryl, why did you go to Bishop? Do you

> living near

> >there? My parents live in Aspendell. How many sessions did your son

> have? I have

> >seen J J's Journey. My mother gave me the video after she went to a

> presentation

> >by his mother. It's amazing!!

> >

> >All the best,

> >

> >Robyn

> >

> >

> >

> >From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

> >

> >Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

> >

> >

> >

> >Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

> >

> >We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen

> a lot of

> >

> >gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech.

> Has anyone had

>

> >

> >similar experience?

> >

> >Thanks,

> >

> >Kay

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Right. It is technology developed by Dr Dogris and an engineer from MIT. They

create a neurofield.

After he maps the energy and wave amplitudes of each area of the brain, he is

able to see where your brain is " hot " or where it is cold electrically or not

firing. For Roff, the hot area was his original seizure focus area. I knew

where this was from previous neuro spect scans he had at St. Louis Children's

Hospital. Then he had underactive areas. They have standardized measurements

for NT kids, which they try to bring each brain up to those levels.

We saw improved language and clarity immediately! When my husband and daughter

came down to visit us one weekend after the first week, they noticed

improvements. His teacher and therapists were all amazed in the fall.

And the improvements have not diminished with time.

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 12, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Argie Olivo <golivo@...> wrote:

Hi Sheryl,

This does not sound like it's the typical Neurofeedback, where they

electrodes all over your head and they made you play games " with your "

mind, you don't have any buttons to play. I

Argie

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Sheryl wrote:

Hi, Kay,

I went to Dr Dogris because he has a proven track record of

improving cognition, speech, behavior, eye contact, Autism, social

and siezures.

Treatment is 20 -30 minutes. He has developed a cap with electrodes.

So it's comfy, easy and quick to put on. He let's your child watch

any DVD they want. Bring a fave that you know they will be absorbed

in. It's easy.

Afterwards he directs you to feed them high quality protien/food and

drink plenty of water.

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Kay <kp_mlist@...> wrote:

Sheryl, Did you look into the other providers of Neurofeedback or is

Dr Dogris

apart from the others?

Does the process entail sitting down for an hour or with electrodes

strapped -

as I am thinking that may be a challenge for some toddlers.

Thanks,

Kay

________________________________

From: Sheryl <ssaturnino@...>

" " < >

Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 8:14:12 PM

Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Yay!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...

wrote:

Awesome. Can't wait to try it.

On Sat Dec 11th, 2010 7:05 PM PST Sheryl wrote:

Hi, Robyn,

No I don't live near Bishop. I live 5 hours (in good weather) to

the North. I

used a friend's condo for some of the time and stayed in a hotel in

Bishop the

others. I went 5 weeks this past summer for 3-4 treatments per

week. So, 15 to

18 visits.

I went to Dr Dogris because he is the one who treated JJ. I wanted

the same

results!

I highly recommend it! I can't wait to take Roff again!

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...

wrote:

Sheryl,

Just out of curiousity, Sheryl, why did you go to Bishop? Do you

living near

there? My parents live in Aspendell. How many sessions did your son

have? I have

seen J J's Journey. My mother gave me the video after she went to a

presentation

by his mother. It's amazing!!

All the best,

Robyn

From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen

a lot of

gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech.

Has anyone had

similar experience?

Thanks,

Kay

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sheryl, it sounds like good therapy! I wonder if he could

help " echolalia " . Do they have a website?

Argie

On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Sheryl wrote:

> Right. It is technology developed by Dr Dogris and an engineer from

> MIT. They create a neurofield.

>

> After he maps the energy and wave amplitudes of each area of the

> brain, he is able to see where your brain is " hot " or where it is

> cold electrically or not firing. For Roff, the hot area was his

> original seizure focus area. I knew where this was from previous

> neuro spect scans he had at St. Louis Children's Hospital. Then he

> had underactive areas. They have standardized measurements for NT

> kids, which they try to bring each brain up to those levels.

>

> We saw improved language and clarity immediately! When my husband

> and daughter came down to visit us one weekend after the first week,

> they noticed improvements. His teacher and therapists were all

> amazed in the fall.

>

> And the improvements have not diminished with time.

>

> Sheryl

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Dec 12, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Argie Olivo <golivo@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Sheryl,

>

> This does not sound like it's the typical Neurofeedback, where they

> electrodes all over your head and they made you play games " with your "

> mind, you don't have any buttons to play. I

>

> Argie

> On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Sheryl wrote:

>

> Hi, Kay,

> I went to Dr Dogris because he has a proven track record of

> improving cognition, speech, behavior, eye contact, Autism, social

> and siezures.

>

> Treatment is 20 -30 minutes. He has developed a cap with electrodes.

> So it's comfy, easy and quick to put on. He let's your child watch

> any DVD they want. Bring a fave that you know they will be absorbed

> in. It's easy.

>

> Afterwards he directs you to feed them high quality protien/food and

> drink plenty of water.

>

> Sheryl

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Kay <kp_mlist@...> wrote:

>

> Sheryl, Did you look into the other providers of Neurofeedback or is

> Dr Dogris

> apart from the others?

> Does the process entail sitting down for an hour or with electrodes

> strapped -

> as I am thinking that may be a challenge for some toddlers.

>

> Thanks,

> Kay

>

> ________________________________

> From: Sheryl <ssaturnino@...>

> " " < >

> Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 8:14:12 PM

> Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

>

> Yay!

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...

>

> wrote:

>

> Awesome. Can't wait to try it.

>

> On Sat Dec 11th, 2010 7:05 PM PST Sheryl wrote:

>

> Hi, Robyn,

> No I don't live near Bishop. I live 5 hours (in good weather) to

> the North. I

> used a friend's condo for some of the time and stayed in a hotel in

> Bishop the

> others. I went 5 weeks this past summer for 3-4 treatments per

> week. So, 15 to

> 18 visits.

>

> I went to Dr Dogris because he is the one who treated JJ. I wanted

> the same

> results!

>

> I highly recommend it! I can't wait to take Roff again!

>

> Sheryl

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...

>

> wrote:

>

> Sheryl,

>

> Just out of curiousity, Sheryl, why did you go to Bishop? Do you

> living near

> there? My parents live in Aspendell. How many sessions did your son

> have? I have

> seen J J's Journey. My mother gave me the video after she went to a

> presentation

> by his mother. It's amazing!!

>

> All the best,

>

> Robyn

>

>

>

> From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

>

> Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

>

>

>

> Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

>

> We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen

> a lot of

>

> gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech.

> Has anyone had

>

> similar experience?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Kay

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey, Argie.

www.neurofield.org

Interesting website. I'm looking into it for the summer break.

all the best,

Robyn

>

> From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

>

> Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

>

>

>

> Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

>

> We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen

> a lot of

>

> gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech.

> Has anyone had

>

> similar experience?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Kay

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Robyn! I hope it works! We spent over $10,000.00 on

Neurofeedback a couple of years ago! Thank God our insurance covered

some.

On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins wrote:

> Hey, Argie.

>

> www.neurofield.org

>

> Interesting website. I'm looking into it for the summer break.

>

> all the best,

>

> Robyn

>

>

> >

> > From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

> >

> > Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

> >

> >

> >

> > Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

> >

> > We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen

> > a lot of

> >

> > gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech.

> > Has anyone had

> >

> > similar experience?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Kay

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Wow, what is your insurance if you don't mind me asking?

Thx,

Robyn

> >

> > From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

> >

> > Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

> >

> >

> >

> > Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

> >

> > We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen

> > a lot of

> >

> > gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech.

> > Has anyone had

> >

> > similar experience?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Kay

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

We have BC/BS, we had to submit it a couple of times, but that was

about 3-4 yrs ago.

On Dec 12, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins wrote:

> Wow, what is your insurance if you don't mind me asking?

>

> Thx,

>

> Robyn

>

>

> > >

> > > From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

> > >

> > > Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

> > >

> > > We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have

> seen

> > > a lot of

> > >

> > > gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech.

> > > Has anyone had

> > >

> > > similar experience?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Kay

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Besides Sheryl, who found neurofeedback with Dr Dogris, quite effective, have

other parents found it to be good.

Is what Dr Dogris uses significantly different from say another provider? How

can I evaluate the different approaches?

Thanks,

Kay

________________________________

From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

Sent: Sun, December 12, 2010 6:04:21 PM

Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Wow, what is your insurance if you don't mind me asking?

Thx,

Robyn

> >

> > From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

> >

> > Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

> >

> >

> >

> > Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

> >

> > We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen

> > a lot of

> >

> > gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech.

> > Has anyone had

> >

> > similar experience?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Kay

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi, Kay,

I found out about it from a mom whose son was helped so much, he is doing quite

well in college. I met with them while I was at Mammoth. He converses very

well.

They introduced me to another mom in Bishop whose

" A " daughter also sees Dr Dogris. I keep in touch with both moms on fb and

everyone continues to do well.

The technical questions I am not qualified to answer, but if you call Dr Dogris,

he may be able to address them. (if he has time. He's awfully busy. )

Hope that helps.

Sheryl

On Dec 15, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Kay <kp_mlist@...> wrote:

Besides Sheryl, who found neurofeedback with Dr Dogris, quite effective, have

other parents found it to be good.

Is what Dr Dogris uses significantly different from say another provider? How

can I evaluate the different approaches?

Thanks,

Kay

________________________________

From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

Sent: Sun, December 12, 2010 6:04:21 PM

Subject: Re: Expressive vs Receptive speech

Wow, what is your insurance if you don't mind me asking?

Thx,

Robyn

> >

> > From: Kay <kp_mlist@...>

> >

> > Subject: Expressive vs Receptive speech

> >

> >

> >

> > Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:48 AM

> >

> > We have been doing the protocol for about 3 months & have seen

> > a lot of

> >

> > gains with receptive speech but not much with expressive speech.

> > Has anyone had

> >

> > similar experience?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Kay

> >

> >