Re: Rifing for Sinusitis

[Guest guest]

You may have to rife for allergies or for specific infections. Sinusitis is

sometimes caused by fungus, a persistent virus ... could be anything.

>

> I posted previously about having sinusitis. Terry suggested frequencies 727,

787 (thanks for that, Terry).

>

> So far I'm not having much success..

>

> Treated from 5/27 - 6/1 and then 6/7-6/8 as follows:

> Frequency Total Time

> 20 5:35

> 120 11:15

> 727 21:08

> 787 19:30

> 880 2:50

>

> Reason for break - think the 880 frequency caused herx. Not positive, could

just be coincidence, but had to stop for a bit.

>

> The frequencies that I seemed to feel something as far as the sinusitis goes

were 120 and 787, but it's not going away and doesn't seem to be improving much.

>

> After the first day of a good dose of 727, 787 I thought something was

happening because I woke up with a stuffy nose, which I hadn't had previously. I

thought maybe it had broken lose the infection. Then it seemed to move into my

chest. But that was it. I rifed for some days after this before the break, but

no more changes. Seemed to just go back to where I started.

>

> Prior to rifing and up to now I have also been irrigating and gargling and

that's not helping much either.

>

> I imagine I'm in a common dilemma - do I keep rifing at 727, 787 because it

needs more time, or do I try different frequencies? The trick with different

frequencies is if I hit one that gives me a Lyme herx, then I can't do it daily.

>

> Ideas?

>

> Thanks …

>

[Guest guest]

Hi G & P,No matter what's up there, if you use a nasal mister to mist up some colloidal silver, it's bound to help. Never fails for me and I've had all sorts of sinus issues. I just put some CS in an emptied Afrin mister, of, you can get a nasal saline in mister bottle at the pharmacy. Snort it up and the CS will go after whatever pathogen is lurking there.Be well,Léna

I posted previously about having sinusitis. Terry suggested frequencies 727, 787 (thanks for that, Terry).

So far I'm not having much success..

Treated from 5/27 - 6/1 and then 6/7-6/8 as follows:

Frequency Total Time

20 5:35

120 11:15

727 21:08

787 19:30

880 2:50

Reason for break - think the 880 frequency caused herx. Not positive, could just be coincidence, but had to stop for a bit.

The frequencies that I seemed to feel something as far as the sinusitis goes were 120 and 787, but it's not going away and doesn't seem to be improving much.

After the first day of a good dose of 727, 787 I thought something was happening because I woke up with a stuffy nose, which I hadn't had previously. I thought maybe it had broken lose the infection. Then it seemed to move into my chest. But that was it. I rifed for some days after this before the break, but no more changes. Seemed to just go back to where I started.

Prior to rifing and up to now I have also been irrigating and gargling and that's not helping much either.

I imagine I'm in a common dilemma - do I keep rifing at 727, 787 because it needs more time, or do I try different frequencies? The trick with different frequencies is if I hit one that gives me a Lyme herx, then I can't do it daily.

Ideas?

Thanks …

[Guest guest]

HI Jan ,

I trouble shoot my sinusitiys with rinsing my nose 2 times a day with a mixture of

1/2 cup of silver +1/2 tsp of bicarbonate of sodium+ 1 tspoon of xylitol +1 tsp of salt + 6drops of iodine

it works quite fast for me . The MMS vapor too if necessary : I put 6 drops of activated MMS no water put under my nose being extrmly careful nto to breeth it I let it slightly come into my nose whitout berething enought to go down to my throat or my lungs once or twice and it is over .

Kindly Marie

To: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:13 AMSubject: Rifing for Sinusitis

Look up sinusitis or sinus infection on electroherbalism.com or google CAFL list

See if there are more specific frequencies

Since you havent had much luck thus far , try a mold frequency.Do you know if there is mold in your home? This can cause chronic sinus issues, So can general seasonal allergies..Keep using the irrigation of the sinuses , it helps relieve some of the inflammation even if you dont feel it.salt water should be fairly warm, this helps much more than cool water

I highly recommend Nutramedix Banderol for sinus infections ( it also kills lyme, so could cause a herx also)).Have you tried sniffing MMS vapors ?( mix up a batch and gently sniff in shallow breaths several times, take a few breaths away from the mms and then repeat sniffing the mms vapors) .This can often relieve sinus infections.because you are just gently sniffing the vapors just into your sinuses it shouldnt cause a herx.

jan

Rifing for Sinusitis Posted by: "gritsnprunes" gritsnprunes@... gritsnprunes Date: Sat Jun 9, 2012 8:58 pm ((PDT))I posted previously about having sinusitis. Terry suggested frequencies 727, 787 (thanks for that, Terry). So far I'm not having much success..Treated from 5/27 - 6/1 and then 6/7-6/8 as follows:Frequency Total Time20 5:35120 11:15727 21:08787 19:30880 2:50Reason for break - think the 880 frequency caused herx. Not positive, could just be coincidence, but had to stop for a bit.The frequencies that I seemed to feel something as

far as the sinusitis goes were 120 and 787, but it's not going away and doesn't seem to be improving much.After the first day of a good dose of 727, 787 I thought something was happening because I woke up with a stuffy nose, which I hadn't had previously. I thought maybe it had broken lose the infection. Then it seemed to move into my chest. But that was it. I rifed for some days after this before the break, but no more changes. Seemed to just go back to where I started.Prior to rifing and up to now I have also been irrigating and gargling and that's not helping much either.I imagine I'm in a common dilemma - do I keep rifing at 727, 787 because it needs more time, or do I try different frequencies? The trick with different frequencies is if I hit one that gives me a Lyme herx, then I can't do it daily.Ideas?Thanks Â…

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[Guest guest]

Khaya, Lena, Jan, Marie, and Jim, thank you all for your suggestions.

Lena - do you have a source for colloidal silver you can recommend? I had one

years ago but they moved.

JanS - Thanks for link. I had already checked frequency lists - there are a

gazillion frequencies for sinusitis. 1 or 2 I used fall in the mold category,

but I can try some others. I'm beginning to realize rife isn't great for

sinusitis. That's ok as long as it works for the Lyme.

I don't think I have mold in the house. Do you know of a cheap, reliable test?

I don't think it is seasonal allergies. I have had this in the past and it

doesn't tie in with a season and before has been diagnosed as bacterial.

I do use warm water when I irrigate.

Marie - that is quite a concoction you use. There's already bicarb and salt in

what I use, plus powdered Magnesium since I had it around and had read it is

good at killing germs. I squirt in some xylitol separately. I have Iodine and

can try adding a few drops of that. In the past I've also used grapefruit seed

extract - have to be careful for low amount or that really burns - but I didn't

have miraculous results with it either.

I have some MMS lying around that is years old - will have to refresh my memory

on how to mix it up. I lost faith in it being safe, but I might give it a couple

whiffs. Have to think on that one.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Léna, helpful to know where to start looking.

>

> Hi G & P,

> I've been making my own with a Silver Puppy CS generator for years. It pays

for itself very quickly and makes excellent CS/EIS for all kinds of uses for

health and home.

> Another good generator is the SilverGen, I'm told.

> Be well,

> Léna

[Guest guest]

gritsnprunes,

Could you describe where and how you are coiling?. I have been dealing with allergies for the last few years and this year was really bad. I decided to coil 727 and 787 again because it shows up on the CAFL for soooo many things. From the first time I coiled the allergy symptoms were very faint the first day and gone the second day except for the mornings when I first woke up.

Terry

From: gritsnprunes

Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 11:58 PM

To: Lyme_and_Rife

Subject: Rifing for Sinusitis

I posted previously about having sinusitis. Terry suggested frequencies 727, 787 (thanks for that, Terry). So far I'm not having much success..Treated from 5/27 - 6/1 and then 6/7-6/8 as follows:Frequency Total Time20 5:35120 11:15727 21:08787 19:30880 2:50Reason for break - think the 880 frequency caused herx. Not positive, could just be coincidence, but had to stop for a bit.The frequencies that I seemed to feel something as far as the sinusitis goes were 120 and 787, but it's not going away and doesn't seem to be improving much.After the first day of a good dose of 727, 787 I thought something was happening because I woke up with a stuffy nose, which I hadn't had previously. I thought maybe it had broken lose the infection. Then it seemed to move into my chest. But that was it. I rifed for some days after this before the break, but no more changes. Seemed to just go back to where I started.Prior to rifing and up to now I have also been irrigating and gargling and that's not helping much either.I imagine I'm in a common dilemma - do I keep rifing at 727, 787 because it needs more time, or do I try different frequencies? The trick with different frequencies is if I hit one that gives me a Lyme herx, then I can't do it daily.Ideas?Thanks Â…

[Guest guest]

Terry - sure, I appreciate the help - would like this to work.

I hold the coil over each forehead sinus (over eyes), then under each eye to hit

the sinuses there. I hold the coil different ways. 1 way is flat against my face

with the side of the coil against the sinus - the rest sorta surrounds my face

with my nose in the middle hole of the coil.

Then I do a little with the coil turned so the outside part of the coil is

against the sinus and the rest of the coil is out in free-space. This just in

case it is stronger on the outside, though it seems like more energy is wasted

this way. When it is turned this way I can also put it going down the length of

my nose on each side.

Then I place the coil flat against the upper part of my chest (over lungs), wrap

my throat around the upper part, and put the inside of my wrists flat against

the outside of the coil. I do this since I am coughing from it and it is trying

to set up shop in my chest.

I can go from 1 to 2 minutes at a time before the fan in the amp speeds up. At

this point I walk back over to the machine and turn the amp knob down so I don't

overheat it.

I can hear the pitch and feel it vibrating at some frequencies, so I assume the

machine is working.

Except for 2 mornings when I woke up with a stuffy nose, in the morning when I

am still horizontal in bed is the best time for me. Once I get vertical I think

the junk starts running down the back of my throat. Most of the time I do not

feel any stuffiness in my nose - no interruption to breathing - just those 2

mornings.

I would sooooooo like to get your results and see progress in a day or two.

thanks for putting your mind to this ...

>

> gritsnprunes,

>

> Could you describe where and how you are coiling?. I have been dealing with

allergies for the last few years and this year was really bad. I decided to coil

727 and 787 again because it shows up on the CAFL for soooo many things. From

the first time I coiled the allergy symptoms were very faint the first day and

gone the second day except for the mornings when I first woke up.

>

> Terry

> From: gritsnprunes

> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 11:58 PM

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> Subject: Rifing for Sinusitis

>

>

> I posted previously about having sinusitis. Terry suggested frequencies 727,

787 (thanks for that, Terry).

>

> So far I'm not having much success..

>

> Treated from 5/27 - 6/1 and then 6/7-6/8 as follows:

> Frequency Total Time

> 20 5:35

> 120 11:15

> 727 21:08

> 787 19:30

> 880 2:50

>

> Reason for break - think the 880 frequency caused herx. Not positive, could

just be coincidence, but had to stop for a bit.

>

> The frequencies that I seemed to feel something as far as the sinusitis goes

were 120 and 787, but it's not going away and doesn't seem to be improving much.

>

> After the first day of a good dose of 727, 787 I thought something was

happening because I woke up with a stuffy nose, which I hadn't had previously. I

thought maybe it had broken lose the infection. Then it seemed to move into my

chest. But that was it. I rifed for some days after this before the break, but

no more changes. Seemed to just go back to where I started.

>

> Prior to rifing and up to now I have also been irrigating and gargling and

that's not helping much either.

>

> I imagine I'm in a common dilemma - do I keep rifing at 727, 787 because it

needs more time, or do I try different frequencies? The trick with different

frequencies is if I hit one that gives me a Lyme herx, then I can't do it daily.

>

> Ideas?

>

> Thanks Â…

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Terry,

I pushed the times more. Plan is to do 1 frequency per day. Today was 532.

4:00 bridge of nose - flat against forehead as I think you described

0:30 pivot on bridge, lay against right sinus above eye

0:30 pivot on bridge, lay against left sinus above eye

--- break

5:20 flat on chest with throat wrapped around side, chin on top

--- break

3:00 outside of coil against right sinus under eye with other side above knee

(bent over at waist)

2:45 outside of coil against left sinus under eye with other side above knee

(bent over at waist)

Rife times + break times = 1 1/2 hours. Breaks were necessary to let coil cool

down.

Left sinus under eye cut short because coil got too hot to handle. Body started

feeling bad as well - nausea, which could just be from the exertion, but that

may be it for the day to be on the safe side.

Perhaps it has to do with the ambient temperature in the room (today it was 78),

but previously when the fan kicked up, about 20-30 seconds later the coil

stopped vibrating (think ambient 80 then). I take it that was the overheat

protection kicking in so it is ok when that happens. The coil wasn't all that

hot when this happened.

Today the coil got too hot to handle before it quit vibrating. I ignored the fan

kicking up and kept going. No explosions. ;-)

Next couple of days will be 727 and 787.

> >

> > gritsnprunes,

> >

> > Could you describe where and how you are coiling?. I have been dealing with

allergies for the last few years and this year was really bad. I decided to coil

727 and 787 again because it shows up on the CAFL for soooo many things. From

the first time I coiled the allergy symptoms were very faint the first day and

gone the second day except for the mornings when I first woke up.

> >

> > Terry

> > From: gritsnprunes

> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 11:58 PM

> > To: mailto:Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: Rifing for Sinusitis

> >

> >

> > I posted previously about having sinusitis. Terry suggested frequencies 727,

787 (thanks for that, Terry).

> >

> > So far I'm not having much success..

> >

> > Treated from 5/27 - 6/1 and then 6/7-6/8 as follows:

> > Frequency Total Time

> > 20 5:35

> > 120 11:15

> > 727 21:08

> > 787 19:30

> > 880 2:50

> >

> > Reason for break - think the 880 frequency caused herx. Not positive, could

just be coincidence, but had to stop for a bit.

> >

> > The frequencies that I seemed to feel something as far as the sinusitis goes

were 120 and 787, but it's not going away and doesn't seem to be improving much.

> >

> > After the first day of a good dose of 727, 787 I thought something was

happening because I woke up with a stuffy nose, which I hadn't had previously. I

thought maybe it had broken lose the infection. Then it seemed to move into my

chest. But that was it. I rifed for some days after this before the break, but

no more changes. Seemed to just go back to where I started.

> >

> > Prior to rifing and up to now I have also been irrigating and gargling and

that's not helping much either.

> >

> > I imagine I'm in a common dilemma - do I keep rifing at 727, 787 because it

needs more time, or do I try different frequencies? The trick with different

frequencies is if I hit one that gives me a Lyme herx, then I can't do it daily.

> >

> > Ideas?

> >

> > Thanks …

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I've had sinus symptoms plus chest symptoms several times since I have been

treating with the coil. The co-infections that seem to be causing or

contributing have been: mycoplasma, chlamydia pneumoniae, klebsiella

pneumoniae, and cold virus. Also try babesia. Here are the frequencies that

helped me, in the order that I would suggest trying them:

mycoplasma 776.7 (or try 962.8)

klebsiella 818 (or try 1038.8)

cold,pneumonia: 1238

CPN: 479 (or try 471.8)

Sherry

>

> I posted previously about having sinusitis. Terry suggested frequencies 727,

787 (thanks for that, Terry).

>

> So far I'm not having much success..

>

> Treated from 5/27 - 6/1 and then 6/7-6/8 as follows:

> Frequency Total Time

> 20 5:35

> 120 11:15

> 727 21:08

> 787 19:30

> 880 2:50

>

> Reason for break - think the 880 frequency caused herx. Not positive, could

just be coincidence, but had to stop for a bit.

>

> The frequencies that I seemed to feel something as far as the sinusitis goes

were 120 and 787, but it's not going away and doesn't seem to be improving much.

>

> After the first day of a good dose of 727, 787 I thought something was

happening because I woke up with a stuffy nose, which I hadn't had previously. I

thought maybe it had broken lose the infection. Then it seemed to move into my

chest. But that was it. I rifed for some days after this before the break, but

no more changes. Seemed to just go back to where I started.

>

> Prior to rifing and up to now I have also been irrigating and gargling and

that's not helping much either.

>

> I imagine I'm in a common dilemma - do I keep rifing at 727, 787 because it

needs more time, or do I try different frequencies? The trick with different

frequencies is if I hit one that gives me a Lyme herx, then I can't do it daily.

>

> Ideas?

>

> Thanks …

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Sherry,

Do you remember how long it took before you had a sense it was working? What

type of machine are you using?

--grits

> >

> > I posted previously about having sinusitis. Terry suggested frequencies 727,

787 (thanks for that, Terry).

> >

> > So far I'm not having much success..

> >

> > Treated from 5/27 - 6/1 and then 6/7-6/8 as follows:

> > Frequency Total Time

> > 20 5:35

> > 120 11:15

> > 727 21:08

> > 787 19:30

> > 880 2:50

> >

> > Reason for break - think the 880 frequency caused herx. Not positive, could

just be coincidence, but had to stop for a bit.

> >

> > The frequencies that I seemed to feel something as far as the sinusitis goes

were 120 and 787, but it's not going away and doesn't seem to be improving much.

> >

> > After the first day of a good dose of 727, 787 I thought something was

happening because I woke up with a stuffy nose, which I hadn't had previously. I

thought maybe it had broken lose the infection. Then it seemed to move into my

chest. But that was it. I rifed for some days after this before the break, but

no more changes. Seemed to just go back to where I started.

> >

> > Prior to rifing and up to now I have also been irrigating and gargling and

that's not helping much either.

> >

> > I imagine I'm in a common dilemma - do I keep rifing at 727, 787 because it

needs more time, or do I try different frequencies? The trick with different

frequencies is if I hit one that gives me a Lyme herx, then I can't do it daily.

> >

> > Ideas?

> >

> > Thanks …

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm using a doug coil, and could tell within 3-4 days if it was helping.

Sherry

> > >

> > > I posted previously about having sinusitis. Terry suggested frequencies

727, 787 (thanks for that, Terry).

> > >

> > > So far I'm not having much success..

> > >

> > > Treated from 5/27 - 6/1 and then 6/7-6/8 as follows:

> > > Frequency Total Time

> > > 20 5:35

> > > 120 11:15

> > > 727 21:08

> > > 787 19:30

> > > 880 2:50

> > >

> > > Reason for break - think the 880 frequency caused herx. Not positive,

could just be coincidence, but had to stop for a bit.

> > >

> > > The frequencies that I seemed to feel something as far as the sinusitis

goes were 120 and 787, but it's not going away and doesn't seem to be improving

much.

> > >

> > > After the first day of a good dose of 727, 787 I thought something was

happening because I woke up with a stuffy nose, which I hadn't had previously. I

thought maybe it had broken lose the infection. Then it seemed to move into my

chest. But that was it. I rifed for some days after this before the break, but

no more changes. Seemed to just go back to where I started.

> > >

> > > Prior to rifing and up to now I have also been irrigating and gargling and

that's not helping much either.

> > >

> > > I imagine I'm in a common dilemma - do I keep rifing at 727, 787 because

it needs more time, or do I try different frequencies? The trick with different

frequencies is if I hit one that gives me a Lyme herx, then I can't do it daily.

> > >

> > > Ideas?

> > >

> > > Thanks …

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Sherry.

I think some of these were in my diagnosis years back so they're worth

exploring.

> >

> > Thanks, Sherry,

> >

> > Do you remember how long it took before you had a sense it was working?

What type of machine are you using?

> >

> > --grits

> >

[Guest guest]

Semi-question has popped up.

Ended up doing 11 1/2 minutes at 727 yesterday after I posted, which made a

total of 27+ minutes yesterday.

By midday I was noticing a funny feeling in my mouth - sorta dry - like when I

eat too much spinach.

Today I did 3:15 at 787. Then when I ate I noticed my tongue felt like the taste

buds had been shaved off and my taste was greatly diminished.

I know other things can cause this - like lack of B vitamins. But my mouth is

getting a good dose at the same time as my nose, and the timing is suspicious.

Anyone else notice something similar?

My inclination is to back off until (hopefully) my mouth goes back to normal and

then start up again and see if it happens again. Not sure where to draw the line

between foolhardy and too cautious.

In other news, I mentioned before about the coil stopping vibrating.

Yesterday the first 2 runs at 727 it went 4 minutes and then stopped. I waited

an hour and 1/2 to let it cool off, but the next time it only went for 3:25. I

leave the coil on edge between treatments to expose the most area to the air to

cool.

Today at 787, the first (and only) try it went for 3:15 before it stopped

vibrating.

Ambient temperature: 78.

--- grits

> > >

> > > gritsnprunes,

> > >

> > > Could you describe where and how you are coiling?. I have been dealing

with allergies for the last few years and this year was really bad. I decided to

coil 727 and 787 again because it shows up on the CAFL for soooo many things.

From the first time I coiled the allergy symptoms were very faint the first day

and gone the second day except for the mornings when I first woke up.

> > >

> > > Terry

> > > From: gritsnprunes

> > > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 11:58 PM

> > > To: mailto:Lyme_and_Rife%40yahoogroups.com

> > > Subject: Rifing for Sinusitis

> > >

> > >

> > > I posted previously about having sinusitis. Terry suggested frequencies

727, 787 (thanks for that, Terry).

> > >

> > > So far I'm not having much success..

> > >

> > > Treated from 5/27 - 6/1 and then 6/7-6/8 as follows:

> > > Frequency Total Time

> > > 20 5:35

> > > 120 11:15

> > > 727 21:08

> > > 787 19:30

> > > 880 2:50

> > >

> > > Reason for break - think the 880 frequency caused herx. Not positive,

could just be coincidence, but had to stop for a bit.

> > >

> > > The frequencies that I seemed to feel something as far as the sinusitis

goes were 120 and 787, but it's not going away and doesn't seem to be improving

much.

> > >

> > > After the first day of a good dose of 727, 787 I thought something was

happening because I woke up with a stuffy nose, which I hadn't had previously. I

thought maybe it had broken lose the infection. Then it seemed to move into my

chest. But that was it. I rifed for some days after this before the break, but

no more changes. Seemed to just go back to where I started.

> > >

> > > Prior to rifing and up to now I have also been irrigating and gargling and

that's not helping much either.

> > >

> > > I imagine I'm in a common dilemma - do I keep rifing at 727, 787 because

it needs more time, or do I try different frequencies? The trick with different

frequencies is if I hit one that gives me a Lyme herx, then I can't do it daily.

> > >

> > > Ideas?

> > >

> > > Thanks …

> > >

> >

>