Re: Anyone did chelation, hbot & still improved on?

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We did!

Son is 5 and will be starting kindergarten next fall......and, may not even need

a shadow! He is reading, playing with kids at the Burger King (no milk in

fries) kids park, asking questions (never would have thought that), riding his

bicycle with training wheels, the whole nine yards!!

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Anyone did chelation, hbot & still improved on ?

Is there anyone in this group who did chelation and HBOT and still improved on

protocol? We have done both and just started and wondering if we have

any chance...

[Guest guest]

I DID ALL THIS AND MY DAUGHTER IMPROVE.

THE FIRST YEAR WAS GREAT, THE 2ND THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE SLOWLY.

YOU UST BE VERY AWARE WITH THE DIET,THE DOCTOR TAKES CARE OF THE REST.

>

> Is there anyone in this group who did chelation and HBOT and still improved on

protocol? We have done both and just started and wondering if we have

any chance...

>

[Guest guest]

Of course you have a chance and your child can get better. Dr. G once told

me about a kid who was 17 when he first treated him and is now okay. Kathy

on from the Northern New York Clinic has stories of children getting

better who didn't utter their first word until ten years of age. There are

many kids who did chelation and improved on . Don't ever limit what

your child is capable of doing. Dr. G doesn't like chelation and thinks it

is dangerous, but the body is a wonderful thing and can heal so many things

with proper treatment.

The most important ingredient besides good medical and rehabilitation is a

parent who believes in their kid and never gives up no matter how hard your

child tries to make you. Most of what I did with was so I wouldn't

have guilt if I ever had to place him in a group home when I got older. I

was told my kid would never be okay by the leading authority on autism in

Minnesota and would most likely end up in an institution. I guess she was

right, because he is now in college and has no signs of ever having autism

except for a little bit of quirky. You go girl and get that kid better.

One part many parents don't embrace is the rehabilitation. Remember you

need to teach them what they missed while they were ill. For us we used ABA

until he was compliant and then moved to a more natural way of teaching.

The best advice I ever got was from Maurice who said use what they

love to teach them. For that was numbers, computers, puzzles, and

anything mechanical. Later he was obsessed with sharks and we used that

too. The computer was just another teacher for me. I only bought

educational games. Anything by Edmark is great since they are

linguistically based. They may be teaching Millie's Math House but they are

learning language too. My favorite was Thinking Things and the Frival Shop.

We would play that for hours. You go shopping for a frival and have to

follow directions and develop listening skills to purchase the right one.

These fabulous programs are no longer $60-$70 like they were when was

young. I think you can buy them on " Surplus CD ROMs " for about $7.

Best,

Marcia Hinds

[Guest guest]

Thanks a lot for the responses! This is very encouraging!

>

> Of course you have a chance and your child can get better. Dr. G once told

> me about a kid who was 17 when he first treated him and is now okay. Kathy

> on from the Northern New York Clinic has stories of children getting

> better who didn't utter their first word until ten years of age. There are

> many kids who did chelation and improved on . Don't ever limit what

> your child is capable of doing. Dr. G doesn't like chelation and thinks it

> is dangerous, but the body is a wonderful thing and can heal so many things

> with proper treatment.

>

>

>

> The most important ingredient besides good medical and rehabilitation is a

> parent who believes in their kid and never gives up no matter how hard your

> child tries to make you. Most of what I did with was so I wouldn't

> have guilt if I ever had to place him in a group home when I got older. I

> was told my kid would never be okay by the leading authority on autism in

> Minnesota and would most likely end up in an institution. I guess she was

> right, because he is now in college and has no signs of ever having autism

> except for a little bit of quirky. You go girl and get that kid better.

>

>

>

> One part many parents don't embrace is the rehabilitation. Remember you

> need to teach them what they missed while they were ill. For us we used ABA

> until he was compliant and then moved to a more natural way of teaching.

> The best advice I ever got was from Maurice who said use what they

> love to teach them. For that was numbers, computers, puzzles, and

> anything mechanical. Later he was obsessed with sharks and we used that

> too. The computer was just another teacher for me. I only bought

> educational games. Anything by Edmark is great since they are

> linguistically based. They may be teaching Millie's Math House but they are

> learning language too. My favorite was Thinking Things and the Frival Shop.

> We would play that for hours. You go shopping for a frival and have to

> follow directions and develop listening skills to purchase the right one.

> These fabulous programs are no longer $60-$70 like they were when was

> young. I think you can buy them on " Surplus CD ROMs " for about $7.

>

>

>

> Best,

>

> Marcia Hinds

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Marsha,

I spoke to you once ,we are seeing Dr G from last year .My son unni is 6 years

old is in a special class. We do have some positives not much. His verbal skills

are limited he is getting ABA for 21 hours a week so he attends 3 days a week

there and rest of the days at school. He does have behaviour issues likte

hitting his head on the floor or on his knees or to other's shoulders when ever

he is upset he get upset when he need to try something new so this behaviour

going every day so many times at school.

When we spoke to Dr goldberg last month he wanted us to take him out of that

special class and put him in class with normal kids and where some teaching

happends so we spoke about this to his teacher and we feel his behaviour is main

hindrence factor to get in a normal class and even this class he dont want to

participate in circle time he is very hyper ,now little bit reduced bec of new

medication so he can sit down and read some small books with pictures for say

around 10 mins. We got a game as per doctor goldberg's advice which is jump

start kindergarten from knowledge adventure which we got was an advanced

version of jump start which is like talking game click here do this and that

like he wont be able to follow such activities .

Do you have any idea how can we teach him i mean now he can tell me what a thing

is from a picture what should be the next step ?

Thanks

Anitha.

nnmom76@...; jcbgalvin@...;

From: hindssite@...

Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 04:24:06 -0800

Subject: Re: Anyone did chelation, hbot & still improved on ?

Of course you have a chance and your child can get better. Dr. G once told

me about a kid who was 17 when he first treated him and is now okay. Kathy

on from the Northern New York Clinic has stories of children getting

better who didn't utter their first word until ten years of age. There are

many kids who did chelation and improved on . Don't ever limit what

your child is capable of doing. Dr. G doesn't like chelation and thinks it

is dangerous, but the body is a wonderful thing and can heal so many things

with proper treatment.

The most important ingredient besides good medical and rehabilitation is a

parent who believes in their kid and never gives up no matter how hard your

child tries to make you. Most of what I did with was so I wouldn't

have guilt if I ever had to place him in a group home when I got older. I

was told my kid would never be okay by the leading authority on autism in

Minnesota and would most likely end up in an institution. I guess she was

right, because he is now in college and has no signs of ever having autism

except for a little bit of quirky. You go girl and get that kid better.

One part many parents don't embrace is the rehabilitation. Remember you

need to teach them what they missed while they were ill. For us we used ABA

until he was compliant and then moved to a more natural way of teaching.

The best advice I ever got was from Maurice who said use what they

love to teach them. For that was numbers, computers, puzzles, and

anything mechanical. Later he was obsessed with sharks and we used that

too. The computer was just another teacher for me. I only bought

educational games. Anything by Edmark is great since they are

linguistically based. They may be teaching Millie's Math House but they are

learning language too. My favorite was Thinking Things and the Frival Shop.

We would play that for hours. You go shopping for a frival and have to

follow directions and develop listening skills to purchase the right one.

These fabulous programs are no longer $60-$70 like they were when was

young. I think you can buy them on " Surplus CD ROMs " for about $7.

Best,

Marcia Hinds

[Guest guest]

My son has done it all in the last three years. Even though we did see

improvements in everything we did, we have seen in only 4 months in amazing

changes. We are now working in closing the gap, lots of therapies

Lorna Ortiz, PhD.

President and Cofounder

Curando el Autismo (CEA)

lorna.ortiz@...

www.curandoelautismo.com

From: aliciacuevaz@...

Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:53:43 +0000

Subject: Re: Anyone did chelation, hbot & still improved on ?

I DID ALL THIS AND MY DAUGHTER IMPROVE.

THE FIRST YEAR WAS GREAT, THE 2ND THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE SLOWLY.

YOU UST BE VERY AWARE WITH THE DIET,THE DOCTOR TAKES CARE OF THE REST.

>

> Is there anyone in this group who did chelation and HBOT and still improved on

protocol? We have done both and just started and wondering if we have

any chance...

>

[Guest guest]

we did HBOT got great results which did not hold. gave us those same

results plus much more (this occurred when the SSRI's were introduced) and it

has held for the last 6 months. definitely worth a try to see if your child will

respond to this viral protocol. teachers stop us at school to comment and they

don't even teach her! this is by far the easiest protocol we have done with the

best results. we have not done the andy cutler chelation protocol.

[Guest guest]

My son went through chelation for arsenic poisoning before starting .

He never did HBOT though. The protocol was very helpful for him and

he made a great deal of progress with it. Of course your child has a

chance to improve with the treatments that are right for him/her.

Gaylen

In a message dated 11/29/2010 1:07:47 P.M. Central Standard Time,

nnmom76@... writes:

Is there anyone in this group who did chelation and HBOT and still improved

on protocol? We have done both and just started and wondering if

we have any chance...

[Guest guest]

One possible reason some kids may do well with chelation (and then reverse back

once it stops) is the fact that some forms of it manually modulate the immune

system, including cytokine profiles.  It may have nothing at all to do with the

removal of metals.  However, by doing it this way, you're not really treating

the viruses and bacteria and yeast - you're putting them at risk of more yeast

and bacteria issues instead, which can come back later and bite.

Treating chronic underlying infections - a year down the road, people have

retested formally high levels of metals and found that they were gone.  The

body

will do a much more efficient job of it on it's own once the immune system

heals.  With chronic immune activation, the 'removal system' will shut down to

divert energy to other areas.  This does not mean that it's sitting there doing

the body harm.   There are so many other factors that the paradigm of metals

causing the illness - while yes, you can see so much improvement on chelation -

there may be other reasons, and just seeing before and after metal levels and

saying " see? that proves it was metal " is not taking into account the underlying

reason as to why those metals were building up in the first place.

I said " May " .  It's just a hypothesis.  They all are.  I've studied it all, I

had mercury poisoning as a kid (real).  I believed for a long time.  But then

I

studied it from Dr Goldberg's side, and chose that one.  I'm not interested in

starting a big ol' mercury metal chelation debate or anything.  Just offering

possibilities as to what really may have helped, because if it was immune

modulation that helped, maybe that would be encouraging to just this one mom.

HTH

________________________________

From: " boothlindy@... " <boothlindy@...>

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 10:55:23 AM

Subject: Re: Anyone did chelation, hbot & still improved on ?

 

we did HBOT got great results which did not hold. gave us those same

results plus much more (this occurred when the SSRI's were introduced) and it

has held for the last 6 months. definitely worth a try to see if your child will

respond to this viral protocol. teachers stop us at school to comment and they

don't even teach her! this is by far the easiest protocol we have done with the

best results. we have not done the andy cutler chelation protocol.

[Guest guest]

many/most metal chelators seems to be potent inhibitors of various

viruses, including retroviruses.

also most are great antioxidants, boosting gsh and such

Natasa

>

> One possible reason some kids may do well with chelation (and then

reverse back

> once it stops) is the fact that some forms of it manually modulate the

immune

> system, including cytokine profiles.  It may have nothing at all

to do with the

> removal of metals.  However, by doing it this way, you're not

really treating

> the viruses and bacteria and yeast - you're putting them at risk of

more yeast

> and bacteria issues instead, which can come back later and bite.

>

> Treating chronic underlying infections - a year down the road, people

have

> retested formally high levels of metals and found that they were

gone.  The body

> will do a much more efficient job of it on it's own once the immune

system

> heals.  With chronic immune activation, the 'removal system' will

shut down to

> divert energy to other areas.  This does not mean that it's

sitting there doing

> the body harm.   There are so many other factors that the

paradigm of metals

> causing the illness - while yes, you can see so much improvement on

chelation -

> there may be other reasons, and just seeing before and after metal

levels and

> saying " see? that proves it was metal " is not taking into account the

underlying

> reason as to why those metals were building up in the first place.

>

> I said " May " .  It's just a hypothesis.  They all are. 

I've studied it all, I

> had mercury poisoning as a kid (real).  I believed for a long

time.  But then I

> studied it from Dr Goldberg's side, and chose that one.  I'm not

interested in

> starting a big ol' mercury metal chelation debate or anything. 

Just offering

> possibilities as to what really may have helped, because if it was

immune

> modulation that helped, maybe that would be encouraging to just this

one mom.

>

> HTH

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: " boothlindy@... " boothlindy@...

>

> Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 10:55:23 AM

> Subject: Re: Anyone did chelation, hbot & still improved on

?

>

>  

> we did HBOT got great results which did not hold. gave us those

same

> results plus much more (this occurred when the SSRI's were introduced)

and it

> has held for the last 6 months. definitely worth a try to see if your

child will

> respond to this viral protocol. teachers stop us at school to comment

and they

> don't even teach her! this is by far the easiest protocol we have done

with the

> best results. we have not done the andy cutler chelation protocol.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thanx a ton..i really read so much sense in this..was just waiting to consider

chelation ..and waiting to read a contradictory view on the same..because I was

never too sure about artificially addressing the immune disorder...the mantra is

definitely in letting the body heal itself by helping immune response and

metabolism. thank u. u cleared a cloud! Lots of love

From: <thecolemans4@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Anyone did chelation, hbot & still improved on ?

Date: Thursday, 2 December, 2010, 9:03 PM

 

One possible reason some kids may do well with chelation (and then reverse back

once it stops) is the fact that some forms of it manually modulate the immune

system, including cytokine profiles.  It may have nothing at all to do with the

removal of metals.  However, by doing it this way, you're not really treating

the viruses and bacteria and yeast - you're putting them at risk of more yeast

and bacteria issues instead, which can come back later and bite.

Treating chronic underlying infections - a year down the road, people have

retested formally high levels of metals and found that they were gone.  The

body

will do a much more efficient job of it on it's own once the immune system

heals.  With chronic immune activation, the 'removal system' will shut down to

divert energy to other areas.  This does not mean that it's sitting there doing

the body harm.   There are so many other factors that the paradigm of metals

causing the illness - while yes, you can see so much improvement on chelation -

there may be other reasons, and just seeing before and after metal levels and

saying " see? that proves it was metal " is not taking into account the underlying

reason as to why those metals were building up in the first place.

I said " May " .  It's just a hypothesis.  They all are.  I've studied it all, I

had mercury poisoning as a kid (real).  I believed for a long time.  But then

I

studied it from Dr Goldberg's side, and chose that one.  I'm not interested in

starting a big ol' mercury metal chelation debate or anything.  Just offering

possibilities as to what really may have helped, because if it was immune

modulation that helped, maybe that would be encouraging to just this one mom.

HTH

________________________________

From: " boothlindy@... " <boothlindy@...>

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 10:55:23 AM

Subject: Re: Anyone did chelation, hbot & still improved on ?

 

we did HBOT got great results which did not hold. gave us those same

results plus much more (this occurred when the SSRI's were introduced) and it

has held for the last 6 months. definitely worth a try to see if your child will

respond to this viral protocol. teachers stop us at school to comment and they

don't even teach her! this is by far the easiest protocol we have done with the

best results. we have not done the andy cutler chelation protocol.