Guest guest Posted April 27, 1999 Report Share Posted April 27, 1999 Cheryl wrote: > But, this wholly unwarrented attack (from my perspective) on Dr. Cordas > really angered me. > > The Dr has posted good information; has said repeatedly that treatments must > be tailored to individuals and that it is a process of trial and error (my > paraphrasing). > > I've seen NOTHING that he has said that indicated he had a one size fits > all -- here is the ANSWER folks attitude. > > Yet, you have threatened banishment of him for indicating that in two people > he's tried something with, he's so far had success. > > One reason I don't want to participate in this group is because of its > history of banishing everyone who says anything that the owner doesn't agree > with. It seems her attitude is shared by others. Hi Cheryl! I must confess that I agree with you totally here, that I didn't see anything but an attempt to help us with his experience and others by the info Dr. C gets from our experiences. It struck fear in my heart that we might lose his valuable input and knowlege as I have NOT been able to find a Doc in 20 years of CFS that I am close to and can afford that was willing to share this kind of information. If there were more Docs like Dr. C who are willing to listen and KEEP learning through their whole medical career CFS might have been solved MANY years ago. I am glad you decided to share with us today and I do hope you remain on the list and share your own experiences. What we learn from one another helps us all. Also no one else in the world seems to understand whats its like to be us and have so many obstacles to cope with. Am so sorry to hear you did well on Enada and then nothing. What a disappointment. I tried the Nadh for about 6 months and got no effects from it at all. Am going to try the Immunocal tho I finally decided. Even a little improvement is so life changing!!!! Hope you keep sharing! Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 1999 Report Share Posted July 14, 1999 >From: KATBERCOO@... >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: Re: [ ] RE: The List >Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:59:02 EDT > >From: KATBERCOO@... > > ><< Auto Immune Hepatitis > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Written and composed by Geri_______ (number of people that had any >part in > >> putting this together should go on the line) people under medical care >for > >> the Disease Auto Immune Hepatitis as diagnosed via Liver Biopsy and > multiple > >> blood tests as such ordered by the Physician in charge. > >> > >> List of diagnosing Medical Doctors (Just click in line and begin >typing > your > >> information; using the tab key to add categories) > >> * 1. Dr. Levin, Columbus, Ohio Gastroenterologist > >> * 2. Dr. Hollinger, Houston, Texas Gastroenterologist > >> * 3. Dr. Dorsch, Houston, Texas Gastroenterologist > >> * 4. Dr. Dubin, Baltimore, land Gastroenterologist > >> * 5. Dr. Watkins, Ann Arbor, Michigan, Gastroenterologist > >> * 6. Dr. Kwok/Gastroenterologist, Las Vegas: Dr. McHutchinson, > >> Hepatologist, Green Hospital, La Jolla, CA > >> * 7. Dr. Kim Gentry, Arlington, Texas Gastroenterologist > >> * 8. Dr. T. Robin Sloane, Kirkland, WA Gastroenterologist > Dr. Carithers, University of Washington, Seattle, WA >Hepatologist > >> * 9. > >> * 10 > >> * 11. > >> * 12. > >> * 13 > >> Our recommended drugs by Pharmaceutical prescription most commonly >used to > >> treat this disease. These are NOT used for a cure. The Physicians >goal >is > >> to put the disease in remission or at least controllable > >> > >> Drug List: Imuran (Azatheoprine) > >> Corticosteroids (i.e. Prednisone) > >> Pureinthol or 6MP > Cyclosporin > >> If the liver has not progressed through all four (4) stages of >fibrosis >and > >> on into the state of Cirrhosis, the amount of medication and length of >time > >> varies from patient to patient. > >> > >> List of Symptoms - Before starting medication therapy) > >> A > >> * 70% female at any age > >> * ANN or Smoothe Muscle Antibodies (SMA) in the majority of >Patients > >> (60%) > >> * Increased gammaglobulin in blood (80%) > >> * some patient have other Autoimmune disorders > >> B. > >> * fatigue > >> * abdominal pain > >> * constipation > >> * itching > >> * jaundice > >> * enlarged abdomen > >> * spider angiomas (tumors) on the skin > >> * dark urine > >> * light stool > >> * sleep disturbances > >> * loss of sexual drive > >> * loss of stamina > >> * depression > >> * flatulence > >> * feelings of mortal doom > >> * encephalopathy (mental confusion) > >> * loss of appetite > >> * nausea > >> * vomiting > >> * rash > >> * aching joints * dizziness/lightheadedness > severe pedal edema " chemical " taste in >mouth > " chemical " odor that no one else can smell > mirror image palms are redness and blister/lesions > random and debilitating joint pain and swelling > blood in urine > highly elevated CA 125 and CA 19 > unusual and undiagnosable skin rashes and swelling > >> *Difficulties digesting food > >> *Fatty stools > >> *dozens of bruises on back where blood has 'settled' > >> *long bone pain > >> *Inability to function > > >> Side Effects of the medication: > >> * fatigue > >> * abdominal pain > >> * aching joints > >> * itching > >> * weight gain > >> * Moon Face > >> * increased appetite > >> * nausea > >> * vomiting > >> * loss of sexual drive > >> * depression > >> * alteration of blood sugar levels in diabetics > >> * irritability > >> * insomnia > >> * swelling > >> * stomach irritation > >> * ulcers, gastritis, hiatal hernias (long term use) * acne on chest, legs, and back > >> severe muscle pain and weakness > tingling, burning, aching feet > muscle spasms in the lower back and upper legs > tremors (hands, primarily) > bone density loss > elevated cholesterol > thin skin, easy bruising and bleeding > hypersensitivity to cat bites > giant hives > undiagnosable shortness of breath > sometimes severe pain on left side, between and under >rib > cage. > leg and foot cramps > unusual food and drink cravings > exceptional abdominal fluid retention/ascites > hair loss > abnormal facial hair growth > tiny, flesh-colored wart-like growths on skin > >> *blood clots > >> *muscle strains > >> *easily torn ligaments > >> *Cushing's Syndrome > >> *Hump at base of the back of the neck > > > >> > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 1999 Report Share Posted July 15, 1999 Auto Immune Hepatitis >> >> >> >> >> Written and composed by Geri_______ (number of people that had any part in >> putting this together should go on the line) people under medical care for >> the Disease Auto Immune Hepatitis as diagnosed via Liver Biopsy and multiple >> blood tests as such ordered by the Physician in charge. >> >> List of diagnosing Medical Doctors (Just click in line and begin typing your >> information; using the tab key to add categories) >> * 1. Dr. Levin, Columbus, Ohio Gastroenterologist >> * 2. Dr. Hollinger, Houston, Texas Gastroenterologist >> * 3. Dr. Dorsch, Houston, Texas Gastroenterologist >> * 4. Dr. Dubin, Baltimore, land Gastroenterologist >> * 5. Dr. Watkins, Ann Arbor, Michigan, Gastroenterologist >> * 6. Dr. Kwok/Gastroenterologist, Las Vegas: Dr. McHutchinson, >> Hepatologist, Green Hospital, La Jolla, CA >> * 7. Dr. Kim Gentry, Arlington, Texas Gastroenterologist >> * 8. >> * 9. >> * 10 >> * 11. >> * 12. >> * 13 >> Our recommended drugs by Pharmaceutical prescription most commonly used to >> treat this disease. These are NOT used for a cure. The Physicians goal is >> to put the disease in remission or at least controllable >> >> Drug List: Imuran (Azatheoprine) >> Corticosteroids (i.e. Prednisone) >> Pureinthol or 6MP >> If the liver has not progressed through all four (4) stages of fibrosis and >> on into the state of Cirrhosis, the amount of medication and length of time >> varies from patient to patient. >> >> List of Symptoms - Before starting medication therapy) >> A. >> * 70% female at any age >> * ANN or Smoothe Muscle Antibodies (SMA) in the majority of Patients >> (60%) >> * Increased gammaglobulin in blood (80%) >> * some patient have other Autoimmune disorders >> B. >> * fatigue >> * abdominal pain >> * constipation >> * itching >> * jaundice >> * enlarged abdomen >> * spider angiomas (tumors) on the skin >> * dark urine >> * light stool >> * sleep disturbances >> * loss of sexual drive >> * loss of stamina >> * depression >> * flatulence >> * feelings of mortal doom >> * encephalopathy (mental confusion) >> * loss of appetite >> * nausea >> * vomiting >> * rash >> * aching joints severe pedal edema " chemical " taste in mouth " chemical " odor that no one else can smell mirror image palms are redness and blister/lesions random and debilitating joint pain and swelling blood in urine highly elevated CA 125 and CA 19 unusual and undiagnosable skin rashes and swelling >> Side Effects of the medication: >> * fatigue >> * abdominal pain >> * aching joints >> * itching >> * weight gain >> * Moon Face >> * increased appetite >> * nausea >> * vomiting >> * loss of sexual drive >> * depression >> * alteration of blood sugar levels in diabetics >> * irritability >> * insomnia >> * swelling >> * stomach irritation >> * ulcers, gastritis, hiatal hernias (long term use) >> severe muscle pain and weakness tingling, burning, aching feet muscle spasms in the lower back and upper legs tremors (hands, primarily) bone density loss elevated cholesterol thin skin, easy bruising and bleeding hypersensitivity to cat bites giant hives undiagnosable shortness of breath sometimes severe pain on left side, between and under rib cage. leg and foot cramps unusual food and drink cravings exceptional abdominal fluid retention/ascites hair loss abnormal facial hair growth tiny, flesh-colored wart-like growths on skin > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 1999 Report Share Posted July 15, 1999 << Auto Immune Hepatitis >> >> >> >> >> Written and composed by Geri_______ (number of people that had any part in >> putting this together should go on the line) people under medical care for >> the Disease Auto Immune Hepatitis as diagnosed via Liver Biopsy and multiple >> blood tests as such ordered by the Physician in charge. >> >> List of diagnosing Medical Doctors (Just click in line and begin typing your >> information; using the tab key to add categories) >> * 1. Dr. Levin, Columbus, Ohio Gastroenterologist >> * 2. Dr. Hollinger, Houston, Texas Gastroenterologist >> * 3. Dr. Dorsch, Houston, Texas Gastroenterologist >> * 4. Dr. Dubin, Baltimore, land Gastroenterologist >> * 5. Dr. Watkins, Ann Arbor, Michigan, Gastroenterologist >> * 6. Dr. Kwok/Gastroenterologist, Las Vegas: Dr. McHutchinson, >> Hepatologist, Green Hospital, La Jolla, CA >> * 7. Dr. Kim Gentry, Arlington, Texas Gastroenterologist >> * 8. Dr. T. Robin Sloane, Kirkland, WA Gastroenterologist Dr. Carithers, University of Washington, Seattle, WA Hepatologist >> * 9. >> * 10 >> * 11. >> * 12. >> * 13 >> Our recommended drugs by Pharmaceutical prescription most commonly used to >> treat this disease. These are NOT used for a cure. The Physicians goal is >> to put the disease in remission or at least controllable >> >> Drug List: Imuran (Azatheoprine) >> Corticosteroids (i.e. Prednisone) >> Pureinthol or 6MP Cyclosporin >> If the liver has not progressed through all four (4) stages of fibrosis and >> on into the state of Cirrhosis, the amount of medication and length of time >> varies from patient to patient. >> >> List of Symptoms - Before starting medication therapy) >> A >> * 70% female at any age >> * ANN or Smoothe Muscle Antibodies (SMA) in the majority of Patients >> (60%) >> * Increased gammaglobulin in blood (80%) >> * some patient have other Autoimmune disorders >> B. >> * fatigue >> * abdominal pain >> * constipation >> * itching >> * jaundice >> * enlarged abdomen >> * spider angiomas (tumors) on the skin >> * dark urine >> * light stool >> * sleep disturbances >> * loss of sexual drive >> * loss of stamina >> * depression >> * flatulence >> * feelings of mortal doom >> * encephalopathy (mental confusion) >> * loss of appetite >> * nausea >> * vomiting >> * rash >> * aching joints severe pedal edema " chemical " taste in mouth " chemical " odor that no one else can smell mirror image palms are redness and blister/lesions random and debilitating joint pain and swelling blood in urine highly elevated CA 125 and CA 19 unusual and undiagnosable skin rashes and swelling >> *Difficulties digesting food >> *Fatty stools >> *dozens of bruises on back where blood has 'settled' >> *long bone pain >> *Inability to function >> Side Effects of the medication: >> * fatigue >> * abdominal pain >> * aching joints >> * itching >> * weight gain >> * Moon Face >> * increased appetite >> * nausea >> * vomiting >> * loss of sexual drive >> * depression >> * alteration of blood sugar levels in diabetics >> * irritability >> * insomnia >> * swelling >> * stomach irritation >> * ulcers, gastritis, hiatal hernias (long term use) >> severe muscle pain and weakness tingling, burning, aching feet muscle spasms in the lower back and upper legs tremors (hands, primarily) bone density loss elevated cholesterol thin skin, easy bruising and bleeding hypersensitivity to cat bites giant hives undiagnosable shortness of breath sometimes severe pain on left side, between and under rib cage. leg and foot cramps unusual food and drink cravings exceptional abdominal fluid retention/ascites hair loss abnormal facial hair growth tiny, flesh-colored wart-like growths on skin >> *blood clots >> *muscle strains >> *easily torn ligaments >> *Cushing's Syndrome >> *Hump at base of the back of the neck > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 1999 Report Share Posted July 15, 1999 << Auto Immune Hepatitis >> >> >> >> >> Written and composed by Geri_______ (number of people that had any part in >> putting this together should go on the line) people under medical care for >> the Disease Auto Immune Hepatitis as diagnosed via Liver Biopsy and multiple >> blood tests as such ordered by the Physician in charge. >> >> List of diagnosing Medical Doctors (Just click in line and begin typing your >> information; using the tab key to add categories) >> * 1. Dr. Levin, Columbus, Ohio Gastroenterologist >> * 2. Dr. Hollinger, Houston, Texas Gastroenterologist >> * 3. Dr. Dorsch, Houston, Texas Gastroenterologist >> * 4. Dr. Dubin, Baltimore, land Gastroenterologist >> * 5. Dr. Watkins, Ann Arbor, Michigan, Gastroenterologist >> * 6. Dr. Kwok/Gastroenterologist, Las Vegas: Dr. McHutchinson, >> Hepatologist, Green Hospital, La Jolla, CA >> * 7. Dr. Kim Gentry, Arlington, Texas Gastroenterologist >> * 8. Dr. T. Robin Sloane, Kirkland, WA Gastroenterologist Dr. Carithers, University of Washington, Seattle, WA Hepatologist >> * 9. >> * 10 >> * 11. >> * 12. >> * 13 >> Our recommended drugs by Pharmaceutical prescription most commonly used to >> treat this disease. These are NOT used for a cure. The Physicians goal is >> to put the disease in remission or at least controllable >> >> Drug List: Imuran (Azatheoprine) >> Corticosteroids (i.e. Prednisone) >> Pureinthol or 6MP Cyclosporin >> If the liver has not progressed through all four (4) stages of fibrosis and >> on into the state of Cirrhosis, the amount of medication and length of time >> varies from patient to patient. >> >> List of Symptoms - Before starting medication therapy) >> A >> * 70% female at any age >> * ANN or Smoothe Muscle Antibodies (SMA) in the majority of Patients >> (60%) >> * Increased gammaglobulin in blood (80%) >> * some patient have other Autoimmune disorders >> B. >> * fatigue >> * abdominal pain >> * constipation >> * itching >> * jaundice >> * enlarged abdomen >> * spider angiomas (tumors) on the skin >> * dark urine >> * light stool >> * sleep disturbances >> * loss of sexual drive >> * loss of stamina >> * depression >> * flatulence >> * feelings of mortal doom >> * encephalopathy (mental confusion) >> * loss of appetite >> * nausea >> * vomiting >> * rash >> * aching joints severe pedal edema " chemical " taste in mouth " chemical " odor that no one else can smell mirror image palms are redness and blister/lesions random and debilitating joint pain and swelling blood in urine highly elevated CA 125 and CA 19 unusual and undiagnosable skin rashes and swelling >> *Difficulties digesting food >> *Fatty stools >> *dozens of bruises on back where blood has 'settled' >> *long bone pain >> *Inability to function >> Side Effects of the medication: >> * fatigue >> * abdominal pain >> * aching joints >> * itching >> * weight gain >> * Moon Face >> * increased appetite >> * nausea >> * vomiting >> * loss of sexual drive >> * depression >> * alteration of blood sugar levels in diabetics >> * irritability >> * insomnia >> * swelling >> * stomach irritation >> * ulcers, gastritis, hiatal hernias (long term use) >> severe muscle pain and weakness tingling, burning, aching feet muscle spasms in the lower back and upper legs tremors (hands, primarily) bone density loss elevated cholesterol thin skin, easy bruising and bleeding hypersensitivity to cat bites giant hives undiagnosable shortness of breath sometimes severe pain on left side, between and under rib cage. leg and foot cramps unusual food and drink cravings exceptional abdominal fluid retention/ascites hair loss abnormal facial hair growth tiny, flesh-colored wart-like growths on skin >> *blood clots >> *muscle strains >> *easily torn ligaments >> *Cushing's Syndrome >> *Hump at base of the back of the neck > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 1999 Report Share Posted July 15, 1999 [ ] RE: The List >From: AGo2864215@... > > Auto Immune Hepatitis >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Written and composed by Geri_______ (number of people that had any part in >>> putting this together should go on the line) people under medical care for >>> the Disease Auto Immune Hepatitis as diagnosed via Liver Biopsy and >multiple >>> blood tests as such ordered by the Physician in charge. >>> >>> List of diagnosing Medical Doctors (Just click in line and begin typing >your >>> information; using the tab key to add categories) >>> * 1. Dr. Levin, Columbus, Ohio Gastroenterologist >>> * 2. Dr. Hollinger, Houston, Texas Gastroenterologist >>> * 3. Dr. Dorsch, Houston, Texas Gastroenterologist >>> * 4. Dr. Dubin, Baltimore, land Gastroenterologist >>> * 5. Dr. Watkins, Ann Arbor, Michigan, Gastroenterologist >>> * 6. Dr. Kwok/Gastroenterologist, Las Vegas: Dr. McHutchinson, >>> Hepatologist, Green Hospital, La Jolla, CA >>> * 7. Dr. Kim Gentry, Arlington, Texas Gastroenterologist >>> * 8. Dr. Louis Letendre (oncologist), Dr. Albert Czaja, & Dr. Marotta, both gastroenterologists. All from Mayo Clinic Rochester, Minnesota >>> * 9. >>> * 10 >>> * 11. >>> * 12. >>> * 13 >>> Our recommended drugs by Pharmaceutical prescription most commonly used to >>> treat this disease. These are NOT used for a cure. The Physicians goal is >>> to put the disease in remission or at least controllable >>> >>> Drug List: Imuran (Azatheoprine) >>> Corticosteroids (i.e. Prednisone) >>> Pureinthol or 6MP >>> If the liver has not progressed through all four (4) stages of fibrosis and >>> on into the state of Cirrhosis, the amount of medication and length of time >>> varies from patient to patient. >>> >>> List of Symptoms - Before starting medication therapy) >>> A. >>> * 70% female at any age >>> * ANA or Smoothe Muscle Antibodies (SMA) in the majority of Patients >>> (60%) >>> * Increased gammaglobulin in blood (80%) >>> * some patient have other Autoimmune disorders >>> B. >>> * fatigue >>> * abdominal pain >>> * constipation >>> * itching >>> * jaundice >>> * enlarged abdomen >>> * spider angiomas (tumors) on the skin >>> * dark urine >>> * light stool >>> * sleep disturbances >>> * loss of sexual drive >>> * loss of stamina >>> * depression >>> * flatulence >>> * feelings of mortal doom >>> * encephalopathy (mental confusion) >>> * loss of appetite >>> * nausea >>> * vomiting >>> * rash >>> * aching joints > severe pedal edema " chemical " taste in mouth > " chemical " odor that no one else can smell > mirror image palms are redness and blister/lesions > random and debilitating joint pain and swelling > blood in urine > highly elevated CA 125 and CA 19 > unusual and undiagnosable skin rashes and swelling > irregular menstrual cycles espophagal varicies portal hypertension depression low platelet count elevated LD-L >>> Side Effects of the medication: >>> * fatigue >>> * abdominal pain >>> * aching joints >>> * itching >>> * weight gain >>> * Moon Face >>> * increased appetite >>> * nausea >>> * vomiting >>> * loss of sexual drive >>> * depression >>> * alteration of blood sugar levels in diabetics >>> * irritability >>> * insomnia >>> * swelling >>> * stomach irritation >>> * ulcers, gastritis, hiatal hernias (long term use) >>> severe muscle pain and weakness > tingling, burning, aching feet > muscle spasms in the lower back and upper legs > tremors (hands, primarily) > bone density loss > elevated cholesterol > thin skin, easy bruising and bleeding > hypersensitivity to cat bites > giant hives > undiagnosable shortness of breath > sometimes severe pain on left side, between and under rib > cage. > leg and foot cramps > unusual food and drink cravings > exceptional abdominal fluid retention/ascites > hair loss > abnormal facial hair growth > tiny, flesh-colored wart-like growths on skin > >> >>> >>> > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 1999 Report Share Posted July 15, 1999 Dr. Rock Phoenixville Hospital Phoenixville Pa. Pa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 1999 Report Share Posted July 16, 1999 ---------- > From: AGo2864215@... > onelist > Subject: [ ] RE: The List > Date: Thursday, 15 July 1999 13:38 > > From: AGo2864215@... > > Auto Immune Hepatitis > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Written and composed by Geri_______ (number of people that had any part in > >> putting this together should go on the line) people under medical care for > >> the Disease Auto Immune Hepatitis as diagnosed via Liver Biopsy and > multiple > >> blood tests as such ordered by the Physician in charge. > >> > >> List of diagnosing Medical Doctors (Just click in line and begin typing > your > >> information; using the tab key to add categories) > >> * 1. Dr. Levin, Columbus, Ohio Gastroenterologist > >> * 2. Dr. Hollinger, Houston, Texas Gastroenterologist > >> * 3. Dr. Dorsch, Houston, Texas Gastroenterologist > >> * 4. Dr. Dubin, Baltimore, land Gastroenterologist > >> * 5. Dr. Watkins, Ann Arbor, Michigan, Gastroenterologist > >> * 6. Dr. Kwok/Gastroenterologist, Las Vegas: Dr. McHutchinson, > >> Hepatologist, Green Hospital, La Jolla, CA > >> * 7. Dr. Kim Gentry, Arlington, Texas Gastroenterologist > >> * 8. Dr. Barbara Leggett, Brisbane, Australia. Gastroenterologist > >> * 9. > >> * 10 > >> * 11. > >> * 12. > >> * 13 > >> Our recommended drugs by Pharmaceutical prescription most commonly used to > >> treat this disease. These are NOT used for a cure. The Physicians goal is > >> to put the disease in remission or at least controllable > >> > >> Drug List: Imuran (Azatheoprine) > >> Corticosteroids (i.e. Prednisone) > >> Pureinthol or 6MP > >> If the liver has not progressed through all four (4) stages of fibrosis and > >> on into the state of Cirrhosis, the amount of medication and length of time > >> varies from patient to patient. > >> > >> List of Symptoms - Before starting medication therapy) > >> A. > >> * 70% female at any age > >> * ANN or Smoothe Muscle Antibodies (SMA) in the majority of Patients > >> (60%) > >> * Increased gammaglobulin in blood (80%) > >> * some patient have other Autoimmune disorders > >> B. > >> * fatigue > >> * abdominal pain > >> * constipation > >> * itching > >> * jaundice > >> * enlarged abdomen > >> * spider angiomas (tumors) on the skin > >> * dark urine > >> * light stool > >> * sleep disturbances > >> * loss of sexual drive > >> * loss of stamina > >> * depression > >> * flatulence > >> * feelings of mortal doom > >> * encephalopathy (mental confusion) > >> * loss of appetite > >> * nausea > >> * vomiting > >> * rash > >> * aching joints > severe pedal edema " chemical " taste in mouth > " chemical " odor that no one else can smell > mirror image palms are redness and blister/lesions > random and debilitating joint pain and swelling > blood in urine > highly elevated CA 125 and CA 19 > unusual and undiagnosable skin rashes and swelling > > >> Side Effects of the medication: > >> * fatigue > >> * abdominal pain > >> * aching joints > >> * itching > >> * weight gain > >> * Moon Face > >> * increased appetite > >> * nausea > >> * vomiting > >> * loss of sexual drive > >> * depression > >> * alteration of blood sugar levels in diabetics > >> * irritability > >> * insomnia > >> * swelling > >> * stomach irritation > >> * ulcers, gastritis, hiatal hernias (long term use) > >> severe muscle pain and weakness > tingling, burning, aching feet > muscle spasms in the lower back and upper legs > tremors (hands, primarily) > bone density loss > elevated cholesterol > thin skin, easy bruising and bleeding > hypersensitivity to cat bites > giant hives > undiagnosable shortness of breath > sometimes severe pain on left side, between and under rib > cage. > leg and foot cramps > unusual food and drink cravings > exceptional abdominal fluid retention/ascites > hair loss > abnormal facial hair growth > tiny, flesh-colored wart-like growths on skin > > > > >> > >> > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2000 Report Share Posted January 30, 2000 Dear Jule, Molly would not make her list but agreed that I could do it. She read it, agreed and disagreed. If she was having an OCD behavior I would ask her if she thought that should go on the list. She did put it in order of difficulty for Martha so I think her and I working together helped her get past the initial fear of starting. Maybe you could try that with Shaun. It was just too much for Molly to do alone. patti r. in nh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 Dear , I am a neophyte in the computer game. Would you please tell; me what I need to do to remain in communications with the oxyplus list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 Just so I have this ok, the list is back on line and we do not have to worry about the other? They said I was off the other and I almost got my little feelings hurt :-) OH yes, best time to take minerals, at night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 , Yes, it was a false alarm. ;-) And, don't take being off the other one personally. I deleted all members from that list so y'all wouldn't keep getting empty digests. jim Rapid Recovery Hyperbarics wrote: > > Just so I have this ok, the list is back on line and we do not have to worry > about the other? They said I was off the other and I almost got my little > feelings hurt :-) > > OH yes, best time to take minerals, at night ----- carpe diem, carpe pecunia, carpe femina. -- Jim Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 Dear , She continues to improve when I can give her HBOT. Had to let the hyperbaricist go for reasons beyond my scope to; handle and am now looking for a good CHT. She improves in mobility and cognitive strength and nuance by nuance, but when she becomes conscious that she needs to relax her fingers and tries to do so with her own will is an example of how she is improving. And tonight she fussed with me bigtime because the medications and vitamins were mixed in sour apple sauce but I do believe one of these days she will start talking as she is getting a grasp of her family, her environment and what's going on in the world around her. Also, she enjoys jokes. I still believe that conversation with your brother is the most poignant summary of what's wrong with medicine today. Unless it can be bottled and sold the power structure is opposed. Hope all goes well with you and yours. Warm Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 Jim thank you for being there, and all your hard work. Serially may you live long and prosper. ivan olsen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Yes, it was a false alarm. ;-) And, don't take being off the other one >personally. I deleted all members from that list so y'all wouldn't keep >getting empty digests. >jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 Your right that is the bottom line on everything. Is your wife having treatment now? We are treating two near drown children and another to start who wasin a car accident and the ford rolled on him. Pray for them all, they are doing great, Here is the newest child who had a Closed head injury testimonial from the mother. I am a CHT and if you were near We would be together, I think you know that ! Your Friend, Daughter 8 years old Car accident " Closed Head Injury " My Daughter Syrena was in a car accident in June 1996 which she had a severe Closed head injury. The Doctors told us that if Syrena did survive that she would not be able to do anything. Indicating that the Closed head injury was so severe she would be blind and helpless. We heard about Hyperbaric Oxygen therapy from a friend. We started in Oct. 2000 so far she has had over 46 treatments Here are just some of her improvements: q She is now counting with blinks! q Syrena is moving hands, arms legs and feet on command! q Answering yes and no with Blinks! q And with her eye she now blinks yes that she can see the light! q She is now eating some solid foods and suckers. Dr Underwood put her on a better diet with vitamins. Dr. Underwood said to see if her school therapist would indicate that they also could see an improvement. Well, we did not tell them that we were using Hyperbaric Oxygen. In our last meeting all of her school therapist remarked on Syrena's improvements, They also said, " Syrena is answering us with Yes and No blinks!! We were overjoyed with the news that the school therapists were seeing big improvements! and Dr Underwood are wonderful people and I thank GOD for bring them to our life. We cannot wait to see what the next group of Hyperbarics will bring!! DK, Mother of Syrena " Closed head Injury " Re: the List > Dear , > > She continues to improve when I can give her HBOT. Had to let the > hyperbaricist go for reasons beyond my scope to; handle and am now looking > for a good CHT. She improves in mobility and cognitive strength and nuance > by nuance, but when she becomes conscious that she needs to relax her fingers > and tries to do so with her own will is an example of how she is improving. > And tonight she fussed with me bigtime because the medications and vitamins > were mixed in sour apple sauce but I do believe one of these days she will > start talking as she is getting a grasp of her family, her environment and > what's going on in the world around her. Also, she enjoys jokes. > > I still believe that conversation with your brother is the most > poignant summary of what's wrong with medicine today. Unless it can be > bottled and sold the power structure is opposed. Hope all goes well with you > and yours. Warm Regards, > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2001 Report Share Posted March 1, 2001 Yes, I do know you would help if you were near. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 Dear and DK, Right now we have a patient with the prognosis from Neurologist " He never will move a finger " After 2 ozone treatments, plus the Kanzenbach machine he was able to: Control sphincters (before no control of stools and urine) Move fingers, arms and hands in a coordinated manner with fine and coarse movements. " Talk " as a little child, but letting us to understand what he needs or thinks. See the light and surroundings Hear our voices (before was deaf) With help go out of the wheelchair and walk with crutches (under our supervision) The protocol: Every other day: Use of the D.K. machine on arms and legs (thirteen minutes total) Ozone I.V. 50 c.c. M.D. P.S. : Are you able to use O3 and HBOT in alternate days? We do it at Mexicali: One hour HBOT and next day O3 I.V. and WE found a better response (and quickly) with the use of both, and due to monetary lack, we used only O3 and the results were really well. Re: the List Your right that is the bottom line on everything. Is your wife having treatment now? We are treating two near drown children and another to start who wasin a car accident and the ford rolled on him. Pray for them all, they are doing great, Here is the newest child who had a Closed head injury testimonial from the mother. I am a CHT and if you were near We would be together, I think you know that ! Your Friend, Daughter 8 years old Car accident " Closed Head Injury " My Daughter Syrena was in a car accident in June 1996 which she had a severe Closed head injury. The Doctors told us that if Syrena did survive that she would not be able to do anything. Indicating that the Closed head injury was so severe she would be blind and helpless. We heard about Hyperbaric Oxygen therapy from a friend. We started in Oct. 2000 so far she has had over 46 treatments Here are just some of her improvements: q She is now counting with blinks! q Syrena is moving hands, arms legs and feet on command! q Answering yes and no with Blinks! q And with her eye she now blinks yes that she can see the light! q She is now eating some solid foods and suckers. Dr Underwood put her on a better diet with vitamins. Dr. Underwood said to see if her school therapist would indicate that they also could see an improvement. Well, we did not tell them that we were using Hyperbaric Oxygen. In our last meeting all of her school therapist remarked on Syrena's improvements, They also said, " Syrena is answering us with Yes and No blinks!! We were overjoyed with the news that the school therapists were seeing big improvements! and Dr Underwood are wonderful people and I thank GOD for bring them to our life. We cannot wait to see what the next group of Hyperbarics will bring!! DK, Mother of Syrena " Closed head Injury " Re: the List > Dear , > > She continues to improve when I can give her HBOT. Had to let the > hyperbaricist go for reasons beyond my scope to; handle and am now looking > for a good CHT. She improves in mobility and cognitive strength and nuance > by nuance, but when she becomes conscious that she needs to relax her fingers > and tries to do so with her own will is an example of how she is improving. > And tonight she fussed with me bigtime because the medications and vitamins > were mixed in sour apple sauce but I do believe one of these days she will > start talking as she is getting a grasp of her family, her environment and > what's going on in the world around her. Also, she enjoys jokes. > > I still believe that conversation with your brother is the most > poignant summary of what's wrong with medicine today. Unless it can be > bottled and sold the power structure is opposed. Hope all goes well with you > and yours. Warm Regards, > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 what is the DK machine? Re: the List > > > > Dear , > > > > She continues to improve when I can give her HBOT. Had to let the > > hyperbaricist go for reasons beyond my scope to; handle and am now looking > > for a good CHT. She improves in mobility and cognitive strength and > nuance > > by nuance, but when she becomes conscious that she needs to relax her > fingers > > and tries to do so with her own will is an example of how she is > improving. > > And tonight she fussed with me bigtime because the medications and > vitamins > > were mixed in sour apple sauce but I do believe one of these days she will > > start talking as she is getting a grasp of her family, her environment and > > what's going on in the world around her. Also, she enjoys jokes. > > > > I still believe that conversation with your brother is the most > > poignant summary of what's wrong with medicine today. Unless it can be > > bottled and sold the power structure is opposed. Hope all goes well with > you > > and yours. Warm Regards, > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 I can not use the Ozone IV in this country, Re: the List > > > > Dear , > > > > She continues to improve when I can give her HBOT. Had to let the > > hyperbaricist go for reasons beyond my scope to; handle and am now looking > > for a good CHT. She improves in mobility and cognitive strength and > nuance > > by nuance, but when she becomes conscious that she needs to relax her > fingers > > and tries to do so with her own will is an example of how she is > improving. > > And tonight she fussed with me bigtime because the medications and > vitamins > > were mixed in sour apple sauce but I do believe one of these days she will > > start talking as she is getting a grasp of her family, her environment and > > what's going on in the world around her. Also, she enjoys jokes. > > > > I still believe that conversation with your brother is the most > > poignant summary of what's wrong with medicine today. Unless it can be > > bottled and sold the power structure is opposed. Hope all goes well with > you > > and yours. Warm Regards, > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 Hi , Nice to " hear " (read) you again! The Kanzenbach machine is a machine kind of a zapper and Rife machine that sends to your body millions of frequencies and harmonics of frequencies, after analyze your body, translated means this machine analyzes and send the treatment according to the disease. The inventor of this machine was really sick (A mortal disease, his doctor told him; " you will be death in 2 months, sorry, no cure for this " ) and used only this machine. He is alive after 12 years of using (and other 100 persons) the machine. right now he is in s. Africa on a medical trial for treatment of AIDS with 6000 afflicted persons all completely healthy. Please go to my web page and in the page " how are we getting money for our free clinic... " you can see at one picture the D.K. machine. We use this machine connected to an Spectrum analyzer that tell us the frequencies used (By the second) and saves the graphics that can show us the improvement of the patient. Before and after the treatment we perform blood analysis, and you can see a " before' and " after " picture of the blood. We perform cultures and we are working with colostrum making specific vaccines (against the disease the patient is suffering) You will be able to see the pictures on the working for colostrum too. sorry, this machine is on tight security scrutiny, the owners of this machine so not want that info escapes, before the approval of the FDA... M.D. Re: the List what is the DK machine? Re: the List > > > > Dear , > > > > She continues to improve when I can give her HBOT. Had to let the > > hyperbaricist go for reasons beyond my scope to; handle and am now looking > > for a good CHT. She improves in mobility and cognitive strength and > nuance > > by nuance, but when she becomes conscious that she needs to relax her > fingers > > and tries to do so with her own will is an example of how she is > improving. > > And tonight she fussed with me bigtime because the medications and > vitamins > > were mixed in sour apple sauce but I do believe one of these days she will > > start talking as she is getting a grasp of her family, her environment and > > what's going on in the world around her. Also, she enjoys jokes. > > > > I still believe that conversation with your brother is the most > > poignant summary of what's wrong with medicine today. Unless it can be > > bottled and sold the power structure is opposed. Hope all goes well with > you > > and yours. Warm Regards, > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 Hi , Nice to " hear " (read) you again! The Kanzenbach machine is a machine kind of a zapper and Rife machine that sends to your body millions of frequencies and harmonics of frequencies, after analyze your body, translated means this machine analyzes and send the treatment according to the disease. The inventor of this machine was really sick (A mortal disease, his doctor told him; " you will be death in 2 months, sorry, no cure for this " ) and used only this machine. He is alive after 12 years of using (and other 100 persons) the machine. right now he is in s. Africa on a medical trial for treatment of AIDS with 6000 afflicted persons all completely healthy. Please go to my web page and in the page " how are we getting money for our free clinic... " you can see at one picture the D.K. machine. We use this machine connected to an Spectrum analyzer that tell us the frequencies used (By the second) and saves the graphics that can show us the improvement of the patient. Before and after the treatment we perform blood analysis, and you can see a " before' and " after " picture of the blood. We perform cultures and we are working with colostrum making specific vaccines (against the disease the patient is suffering) You will be able to see the pictures on the working for colostrum too. sorry, this machine is on tight security scrutiny, the owners of this machine so not want that info escapes, before the approval of the FDA... M.D. Re: the List what is the DK machine? Re: the List > > > > Dear , > > > > She continues to improve when I can give her HBOT. Had to let the > > hyperbaricist go for reasons beyond my scope to; handle and am now looking > > for a good CHT. She improves in mobility and cognitive strength and > nuance > > by nuance, but when she becomes conscious that she needs to relax her > fingers > > and tries to do so with her own will is an example of how she is > improving. > > And tonight she fussed with me bigtime because the medications and > vitamins > > were mixed in sour apple sauce but I do believe one of these days she will > > start talking as she is getting a grasp of her family, her environment and > > what's going on in the world around her. Also, she enjoys jokes. > > > > I still believe that conversation with your brother is the most > > poignant summary of what's wrong with medicine today. Unless it can be > > bottled and sold the power structure is opposed. Hope all goes well with > you > > and yours. Warm Regards, > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 , One alternative can be to use ozone diffused by the ear and ozonated water. The ozone in the ear goes trough the ear to the brain (Am I right Saul?) via cribrose fossa (A bone that is permeable from the nose/sinus to the brain) and can help on the brain problems. Please ask Saul... you have the half of the equipment: Your Oxygen tanks, the provider of the medicinal oxygen, and the tubes... M.D. P.S. Of course the using of ozone i.v. is the strongest treatment. Re: the List I can not use the Ozone IV in this country, Re: the List > > > > Dear , > > > > She continues to improve when I can give her HBOT. Had to let the > > hyperbaricist go for reasons beyond my scope to; handle and am now looking > > for a good CHT. She improves in mobility and cognitive strength and > nuance > > by nuance, but when she becomes conscious that she needs to relax her > fingers > > and tries to do so with her own will is an example of how she is > improving. > > And tonight she fussed with me bigtime because the medications and > vitamins > > were mixed in sour apple sauce but I do believe one of these days she will > > start talking as she is getting a grasp of her family, her environment and > > what's going on in the world around her. Also, she enjoys jokes. > > > > I still believe that conversation with your brother is the most > > poignant summary of what's wrong with medicine today. Unless it can be > > bottled and sold the power structure is opposed. Hope all goes well with > you > > and yours. Warm Regards, > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 , One alternative can be to use ozone diffused by the ear and ozonated water. The ozone in the ear goes trough the ear to the brain (Am I right Saul?) via cribrose fossa (A bone that is permeable from the nose/sinus to the brain) and can help on the brain problems. Please ask Saul... you have the half of the equipment: Your Oxygen tanks, the provider of the medicinal oxygen, and the tubes... M.D. P.S. Of course the using of ozone i.v. is the strongest treatment. Re: the List I can not use the Ozone IV in this country, Re: the List > > > > Dear , > > > > She continues to improve when I can give her HBOT. Had to let the > > hyperbaricist go for reasons beyond my scope to; handle and am now looking > > for a good CHT. She improves in mobility and cognitive strength and > nuance > > by nuance, but when she becomes conscious that she needs to relax her > fingers > > and tries to do so with her own will is an example of how she is > improving. > > And tonight she fussed with me bigtime because the medications and > vitamins > > were mixed in sour apple sauce but I do believe one of these days she will > > start talking as she is getting a grasp of her family, her environment and > > what's going on in the world around her. Also, she enjoys jokes. > > > > I still believe that conversation with your brother is the most > > poignant summary of what's wrong with medicine today. Unless it can be > > bottled and sold the power structure is opposed. Hope all goes well with > you > > and yours. Warm Regards, > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 Dear , I forgot to give the web address, sorry. www.cancer-alternatives.com Re: the List what is the DK machine? Re: the List > > > > Dear , > > > > She continues to improve when I can give her HBOT. Had to let the > > hyperbaricist go for reasons beyond my scope to; handle and am now looking > > for a good CHT. She improves in mobility and cognitive strength and > nuance > > by nuance, but when she becomes conscious that she needs to relax her > fingers > > and tries to do so with her own will is an example of how she is > improving. > > And tonight she fussed with me bigtime because the medications and > vitamins > > were mixed in sour apple sauce but I do believe one of these days she will > > start talking as she is getting a grasp of her family, her environment and > > what's going on in the world around her. Also, she enjoys jokes. > > > > I still believe that conversation with your brother is the most > > poignant summary of what's wrong with medicine today. Unless it can be > > bottled and sold the power structure is opposed. Hope all goes well with > you > > and yours. Warm Regards, > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2001 Report Share Posted July 2, 2001 Dear , I forgot to give the web address, sorry. www.cancer-alternatives.com Re: the List what is the DK machine? Re: the List > > > > Dear , > > > > She continues to improve when I can give her HBOT. Had to let the > > hyperbaricist go for reasons beyond my scope to; handle and am now looking > > for a good CHT. She improves in mobility and cognitive strength and > nuance > > by nuance, but when she becomes conscious that she needs to relax her > fingers > > and tries to do so with her own will is an example of how she is > improving. > > And tonight she fussed with me bigtime because the medications and > vitamins > > were mixed in sour apple sauce but I do believe one of these days she will > > start talking as she is getting a grasp of her family, her environment and > > what's going on in the world around her. Also, she enjoys jokes. > > > > I still believe that conversation with your brother is the most > > poignant summary of what's wrong with medicine today. Unless it can be > > bottled and sold the power structure is opposed. Hope all goes well with > you > > and yours. Warm Regards, > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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