Blood tests

November 17, 2001

Hi ,

Be sure and ask your Physician to give you a copy of the Blood Tests. After you receive them go over them and you should be able to get a real good picture of your daughter's health.

By the way did your daughter "Fast" before taking the Blood Tests??

[ ] Re: Introduction

July 11, 2002

Hi Aisha,

I kept your response from yesterday to read again but I haven't gotten that far - it was way too hot for me! My poor husband came home from helping a friend with some accounting stuff and found me with an ice pack on my head and feet and sitting in front of the fan - I know we only get this a few days a summer but I'm to the point of wanting air conditioning anyway

According to the new MELD standards which qualify you for the transplant list the only 3 tests they look at are Bilirubin, INR (protime) and Creatinine. They list as special considerations things like encepholapathy, portal hypertension and acitices.

Your doctors however look at the whole liver panel to see what's happening and to help keep things in control.

You can get info on the MELD scoring at www.unos.org and there is a way to get to a patient calculator but at the moment I can't remember how - look under patient stuff. If you can't find it, I'll do it again and let you know the exact place to look or maybe someone else know?

Stay cool!

Amy

September 9, 2002

Check for an FULL IRON PANEL, if she has quasi problems on anyof them, I

would try to chelate iron out.

Kathy

[ ] blood tests

> My wife recently had most of her amalgam-filled teeth

> removed; only one remains. Her calorie quality and

> intake are up but she's losing weight and she still

> experiences complex partial seizures although castor

> oil packs seem to help some. (We're in process of

> getting her records sent to s-Reiter...thanks,

> Lamar!) Her weight is now at 101-102lbs, down from

> 111-112 at 5'4 " . Believing in the brain-gut

> connection, I think she's experiencing some degree of

> malabsorption that in turn creates a significant

> domino effect by way of nutritional deficits. (I have

> noticed that when she seizes -- 30 - 60 seconds each

> -- her stomach/intestines gurgle something fierce.) So

> now to the question:

>

> What blood test(s) are recommended/best to assess

> overall blood chemistry, toxicity and/or deficiency?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Rossi in Dallas

>

> __________________________________________________

>

September 23, 2004

,

Just ask the secretary for a copy of all of your records... you are entitled

to them, they are your records, not the doctor's. They'll probably make you

go to their office to retrieve them but they will get them for you. Let your

new doc look them over and decide if he has all of the test results that he

needs.

You are no more ignorant than most of us that post here were when we joined.

Good luck

Jeff

rheumatic blood tests

> Found a Doc who will treat my RA with AP.

> The Doc wants me to bring blood tests.

> What blood tests does he need besides RA factor?

> Also how willing will my Rheumy be to give me copies, as he says AP is

> bunk, and people are looking for cures where there are none.

> This AP is new to me. Excuse me if I sound ignorant I am.

> Not to mention I haven't had a computer before so, I'm also a computer

> dummy. I had so much trouble trying to join this group.

> I recieved group mail, but couldn't post until the other day.

> I had to laugh at myself. Thanks for all the replies to my last post.

>

> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

>

November 4, 2004

SHBG is the one test missing from this list. It will take bio-available T

down, as it binds Testosterone completely.

To me, both Prolactin and Estradiol are a little high and perhaps worth

reducing.

I hope it helps,

Nick

> Blood tests

>

> Guys

>

> I have just completed an extensive set of blood tests and the

> results are as follows:

>

> Free T3 6.1 pmol/L (4.0 – 6.8)

> Prolactin 337 mIU/L (98 – 456)

> 17-Beta Oestradiol 119 pmol/L (28 – 156)

> DHT 2.84 nmol/L (0.50 – 3.70)

> Oestrone 0.20 nmol/L (0.03-0.22)

> Testosterone Bioavailable 3.84 nmol/l (2 – 9) Testosterone

> Bioavailable 110.7 ng/dL

>

> Serum Testosterone 26.3 nmol/L (9.2-29) 26.3 nmol/L = 758

> ng/dL LH 2.3 u/L (1-10) FSH 2.4 u/L (1-8)

>

> TSH 1.22 mu/L (0.1-4)

> Free Thyroxine 14.9 pmol/L (10-22)

> Serum Cortisol 362 nmol/L (100-600 nmol/L)

>

> Serum Cholesterol 3.7 mmol/L (2.8-5.7)

> Serum Triglyceride 0.5 mmol/L (0-2.8)

> Serum HDL Cholesterol 2.2 mmol/L

> LDL Cholesterol (caculated) 1.3 mmol/L

> Cholesterol/HDL (risk ratio) 1.7

>

> Bilirubin 11 umol/l (max 20 umol/l)

> Albumin 48 (36-52 g/l)

> Serum Alkaline Phosphatase 59 u/L (30-135) Serum Ast 35 u/L (0-40

>

> The concerns for me are Oestrone which is near the top of the

> range and also my very low Bioavailable T. As you can see my

> total testosterone looks ok but that never tells the full

> story as your body can only use the free or loosely bound T.

>

> I have submitted these to my Doctor and hopefully it will

> give him some clues as to whats going on.

>

> If anyone can give me some advice on the above results I

> would appreciate it.

>

> Best of luck all.

> snowking

>

November 6, 2004

Thanks Nick

I have previous afternoon test which show my SHBG as high:

March 2004 (3pm - 1 year after propecia)

LH 1.3 U/L (0.8-7.6)

FSH 2.7 U/L (0.7-11.1)

Oestradiol 118 pmol/L (upto 206)

Testosterone 11.9 nmol/L (9.4-60.0) or 342 ng/dL

SHBG 51 nmol/L (13-70)

October 2003 (3 pm - 6 months after Propecia)

LH 1.4 U/L (0.8-7.6)

FSH 2.8 U/L (0.7-11.1)

Prolactin 113 mU/L (53-360)

*Testosterone 9.2 nmol/L (9.4-60.0) or 270 ng/dL

DHT 1.4 nmol/L (0.2-1.1)

SHBG 57 nmol/L (13-70)

I am aware that Free T is what inhibits the Feedback loop so lowering

SHBG would lower overall T unless maybe used with something like

Clomid? What do you guys think??

snowking

> SHBG is the one test missing from this list. It will take

bio-available T

> down, as it binds Testosterone completely.

>

> To me, both Prolactin and Estradiol are a little high and perhaps worth

> reducing.

>

> I hope it helps,

>

> Nick

>

> > Blood tests

> >

> > Guys

> >

> > I have just completed an extensive set of blood tests and the

> > results are as follows:

> >

> > Free T3 6.1 pmol/L (4.0 – 6.8)

> > Prolactin 337 mIU/L (98 – 456)

> > 17-Beta Oestradiol 119 pmol/L (28 – 156)

> > DHT 2.84 nmol/L (0.50 – 3.70)

> > Oestrone 0.20 nmol/L (0.03-0.22)

> > Testosterone Bioavailable 3.84 nmol/l (2 – 9) Testosterone

> > Bioavailable 110.7 ng/dL

> >

> > Serum Testosterone 26.3 nmol/L (9.2-29) 26.3 nmol/L = 758

> > ng/dL LH 2.3 u/L (1-10) FSH 2.4 u/L (1-8)

> >

> > TSH 1.22 mu/L (0.1-4)

> > Free Thyroxine 14.9 pmol/L (10-22)

> > Serum Cortisol 362 nmol/L (100-600 nmol/L)

> >

> > Serum Cholesterol 3.7 mmol/L (2.8-5.7)

> > Serum Triglyceride 0.5 mmol/L (0-2.8)

> > Serum HDL Cholesterol 2.2 mmol/L

> > LDL Cholesterol (caculated) 1.3 mmol/L

> > Cholesterol/HDL (risk ratio) 1.7

> >

> > Bilirubin 11 umol/l (max 20 umol/l)

> > Albumin 48 (36-52 g/l)

> > Serum Alkaline Phosphatase 59 u/L (30-135) Serum Ast 35 u/L (0-40

> >

> > The concerns for me are Oestrone which is near the top of the

> > range and also my very low Bioavailable T. As you can see my

> > total testosterone looks ok but that never tells the full

> > story as your body can only use the free or loosely bound T.

> >

> > I have submitted these to my Doctor and hopefully it will

> > give him some clues as to whats going on.

> >

> > If anyone can give me some advice on the above results I

> > would appreciate it.

> >

> > Best of luck all.

> > snowking

> >

January 14, 2005

Yep. See:

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/cmp/cmp.

html

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/lipid/glanc

e.html

>

> Hey all went to a new endo today and he took blood samples

for a full

> comprehensive metabolic profile and lipid panel. Question is

do u

> guys know what is included in these tests? Specifically i'm

looking

> for liver tests such as ALT, AST....are these included in the

tests?

> Thanks

February 22, 2005

Hi,

If a certain date was set to judge a prior change in treatment, the

early tests might not give the whole picture. Otherwise the tests

should be fine. Ask the doc about this when you review the tests

together.

Bruce

>

> i got a blood drawn for some tests done last friday. i just found

> out i was sapous to get it drwawn this commimg fri day. will the

> tests be wrong sense the blood was drawn a week early?

March 20, 2006

Hi Phyllis, the problem is that there is no test for mercury that is

definitive. Hair tests, blood tests, stool and urine...only can test

for recent exposure or what is being excreted now or in the recent

past. The real damage, though, is being done by what goes into the

fatty tissue...like the brain...and doesn't come out again, except

when the child is detoxing. It would take a really experienced

doctor in this field to help you.

But, a urinary methyl malonic acid test to test for B-12 deficiency

(serum B-12 not accurate in this situation), or an organic acid test

panel from Great Plains Labs, or urinary peptides from GPL, those

would be more useful. Or essential fatty acids. Or test for anti-

gliadin IgA antibodies as a screening test for celiac disease.

(Probably your doctor won't agree to most of these, but it is worth a

try.) You might want to go to www.gpl4u.com and look up some of the

web pages, perhaps print them out for your doctor. These doctors

need all the help they can get. They are seeing all the time now

conditions that used to be considered " rare. "

Peace,

Kathy E.

On Mar 19, 2006, at 8:36 PM, Ratliffp@... wrote:

> Hi everyone, I am taking my son for his 5 year check up in the next

> couple

> of weeks and was going to ask his doctor run some bloods tests for

> various

> levels of mercury, etc. Can anyone assist me with what I need to

> what they

> should be looking for as far as metals, deficiencies, etc. He has

> been dx with

> apraxia and PDD. He has some sensory issues... always squeezing my

> hands or

> arms... or jumping in place when he gets excited. Any advice on

> the blood tests

> or any other tests I need to discuss with his Ped. will be greatly

> appreciated. As always thanks for all your assistance. Phyllis &

> Nicolas

>

March 20, 2006

Hi Phyllis,

I just want to say that I totally agree with what Kathy says here.

Most doctors don't realize that a blood test for mercury only

captures recent exposure. Even on hair tests, a sign of mercury

poisoning might actually be LOWER mercury coming out in the hair

compared to siblings (a lab called Doctor's Data analyzes other

things in the hair and claims to be able to tell if there's a heavy

metal problem based on those). The problem is more the amount

coming out than the amount going in - these kids have immune systems

that are inefficient at detoxing. One test that some people do is

called a " challenge " test, where the child is given a chelator and

then a large urine sample (24 hour?) is taken and tested for heavy

metals. This may give you a better idea, but a lot of people say

it's unrealiable (because some kids get rid of the stuff quickly and

others not so much, and also because certain metals tend to come out

first and mercury is usually one of the last) and you'd have to see

a doctor who would be willing to give you a prescription for a

chelator.

Please don't get the blood test. If do you, the results will

probably be low blood levels, and this will convince your doctor

(and maybe you?) that there is no problem. Then s/he will really

think you're crazy if you want to pursue further!

Kerri

>

> > Hi everyone, I am taking my son for his 5 year check up in the

> > of weeks and was going to ask his doctor run some bloods tests

for

> > various

> > levels of mercury, etc. Can anyone assist me with what I need

to

> > what they

> > should be looking for as far as metals, deficiencies, etc. He

has

> > been dx with

> > apraxia and PDD. He has some sensory issues... always squeezing

my

> > hands or

> > arms... or jumping in place when he gets excited. Any advice

on

> > the blood tests

> > or any other tests I need to discuss with his Ped. will be

greatly

> > appreciated. As always thanks for all your assistance. Phyllis

&

> > Nicolas

> >

July 27, 2006

Hi , Since we don't have access to your labs, nor do we want them, nor are

we docs, your best bet is to ask your doc that question. If you are not

satisfied with his/her answers or want more testing, my advice, is to keep on

seeking docs until you have one you feel comfortable with. We are patients like

you, not docs. We can't tell you what to take or not take as meds work

differently on everybody. I am convinced that Mino has worked wonders on me.

Others have not been so fortunate or may have underlying problems we don't have.

Seek out individual help from your doc. Good luck ~~~~Dolores

Rizun <eorizun@...> wrote: Hi. I don't really understand the results

of tests. I started the testing in Nov/98 and the sed rate was 28 and it is now

15 which I think is a good improvement since starting the ap back in Nov/98. But

the ana back then was 1:160 and it is still the same. I have been on minocin

since Nov/98 and had the iv clindamycin for almost 5 years off and on. Should I

be changing to another antibiotic or stay with the minocin? Thanks for your

input.

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October 19, 2006

Takes 2-3 weeks for results to come back. Feels like forever, doesn't

it? -

> For those of you who had blood tests done for the celiac panel and

> carnitine, how long did it take to get the results? We are going on

> almost two weeks for my son's tests and I am wondering if something

> went wrong. Do they take an unusually long time?

>

October 19, 2006

Takes 2-3 weeks for results to come back. Feels like forever, doesn't

it? -

> For those of you who had blood tests done for the celiac panel and

> carnitine, how long did it take to get the results? We are going on

> almost two weeks for my son's tests and I am wondering if something

> went wrong. Do they take an unusually long time?

>

August 18, 2007

>

> Does anyone know of a site/book/link that is as explicit about blood

test

> results as Andy's book is on Hair test results?

>

> I'm having no luck...

>

> in MD

>I have doctor in MD who is explaining us our results and supervising

chelation

August 18, 2007

Care to share? We're in Carroll County...

in MD

[ ] Re: Blood tests

>

>>

>> Does anyone know of a site/book/link that is as explicit about blood

> test

>> results as Andy's book is on Hair test results?

>>

>> I'm having no luck...

>>

>> in MD

>>I have doctor in MD who is explaining us our results and supervising

> chelation

>

> =======================================================

>

August 18, 2007

Do you mean about blood tests in general? Blood tests are not useful in

identifying mercury toxicity unless there is current exposure.

S S

Blood tests

Posted by: " Letaw " annaletaw@... a_letaw

Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:59 am (PST)

Does anyone know of a site/book/link that is as explicit about blood test

results as Andy's book is on Hair test results?

I'm having no luck...

in MD

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August 18, 2007

Hi ,

It's Dr.Geier, Mark. Also his son . Office in Rockville and Owings

Mills, phone 301-989-0548

Let me know if you have more questions

Letaw <annaletaw@...> wrote:

Care to share? We're in Carroll County...

in MD

[ ] Re: Blood tests

>

>>

>> Does anyone know of a site/book/link that is as explicit about blood

> test

>> results as Andy's book is on Hair test results?

>>

>> I'm having no luck...

>>

>> in MD

>>I have doctor in MD who is explaining us our results and supervising

> chelation

>

> =======================================================

>

August 19, 2007

Oh yes...heard of them...thanks for the info!

in MD

[ ] Re: Blood tests

>

>>

>>>

>>> Does anyone know of a site/book/link that is as explicit about blood

>> test

>>> results as Andy's book is on Hair test results?

>>>

>>> I'm having no luck...

>>>

>>> in MD

>>>I have doctor in MD who is explaining us our results and supervising

>> chelation

>>

>> =======================================================

>>

August 19, 2007

Yes, blood tests in general, not for identifying mercury toxicity

specifically

in M

[ ] re: Blood tests

>

> Do you mean about blood tests in general? Blood tests are not useful in

> identifying mercury toxicity unless there is current exposure.

> S S

>

> Blood tests

> Posted by: " Letaw " annaletaw@... a_letaw

> Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:59 am (PST)

> Does anyone know of a site/book/link that is as explicit about blood test

> results as Andy's book is on Hair test results?

>

> I'm having no luck...

>

> in MD

>

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November 25, 2007

No best to get your blood test on the day of your shot just do the blood work

first. You need to know how low you go down going to low is what makes us feel

like crap.

gettin_older <gettin_older@...> wrote: How many days after my T

shot should I get my levels checked? I

normally get my shot on Tuesday and was thinking that Sat a.m. would be

a good mid-week time for testing; is my thinking flawed?

Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. "

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November 25, 2007

You know, when I was doing monthly shots (won't go there again), I'd have my

blood drawn for a T check prior to the injection. My last score was about 245

and that's not worth bragging about.

But now I'm on the Indoplex, taking Zinc and Copper and 100mg Test Cyp a week,

I'm curious how much more improved my T scores are going to be now?

I'm willing to entertain your best guesses. I suppose in the end it's how your

quality of life is improved but I'm looking forward to one day putting up a good

number around 400 - 500.

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

No best to get your blood test on the day of your shot just do the

blood work first. You need to know how low you go down going to low is what

makes us feel like crap.

gettin_older <gettin_older@...> wrote: How many days after my T shot

should I get my levels checked? I

normally get my shot on Tuesday and was thinking that Sat a.m. would be

a good mid-week time for testing; is my thinking flawed?

Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. "

Phil

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November 25, 2007

These were my levels while on 7.5 g/day of Androgel:

Range Test Result

Testosterone Total 350-890 ng/dl 301

SHBG 11-80 nmol/L 20

Free Testosterone 47-244 pg/ml 68

% Free Testoserone 1.6-2.9% 2.3

Since switching to 100 mg weekly injections of T-Cyp six weeks ago. I

have felt much better and been able to have erections w/o taking

Viagra. I have had no issues w/anorgasmia either. Nightime erections

happen several times per night and I have nice sexual dreams, again.

My doc wanted to do bi-weekly injections, but I talked her into

weekly as an alternative. So far I have not had any high E2 side

effects. I am not taking any OTC supplements to control E2 either.

My problem w/getting the test the same day of my injections are

logistical. I am not self injecting, yet, and due to my work hours (6

a.m. to 2:30 p.m. I cannot get the test the morning before my weekly

shot. Saturdays work best for me. Unless I get the test the day

before my injection.

Gettin Older

How many days after my T

shot should I get my levels checked? I

> normally get my shot on Tuesday and was thinking that Sat a.m.

would be

> a good mid-week time for testing; is my thinking flawed?

>

> Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what

you see. "

> Phil

>

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November 25, 2007

I would hope you will be above 500.

Norsworthy <norsworthy_david@...> wrote: You know, when I

was doing monthly shots (won't go there again), I'd have my blood drawn for a T

check prior to the injection. My last score was about 245 and that's not worth

bragging about.

But now I'm on the Indoplex, taking Zinc and Copper and 100mg Test Cyp a week,

I'm curious how much more improved my T scores are going to be now?

I'm willing to entertain your best guesses. I suppose in the end it's how your

quality of life is improved but I'm looking forward to one day putting up a good

number around 400 - 500.

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

No best to get your blood test on the day of your shot just do the blood work

first. You need to know how low you go down going to low is what makes us feel

like crap.

gettin_older <gettin_older@...> wrote: How many days after my T shot

should I get my levels checked? I

normally get my shot on Tuesday and was thinking that Sat a.m. would be

a good mid-week time for testing; is my thinking flawed?

Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. "

Phil

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November 25, 2007

Yes the day before your shot will work a lot of guys do this. You can have the

test anytime of the day on TRT doing the day before.

gettin_older <gettin_older@...> wrote: These were my levels while

on 7.5 g/day of Androgel: