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Hello all,

My son (11 years old) has been on the protocol for over a year now and

doing well. He has been on a strict GFCF diet for the past 6 months. I am

planning to move to the diet soon. My son's Gluten allergy tests have

been negative in the past. Just wanted to make sure I understand the

diet, it is ok to give him processed wheat?

Thanks.

Archana

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My understanding with the diet is that it's to control inflammation. Carbs

such as flour, rice, etc. cause an inflammatory response in everyone, so

they are to be avoided as much as possible.

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of LH

Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:12 AM

Subject: diet

I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm

wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy

elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have

eliminated. Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they

react to (except Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can

not.

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diet

I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm

wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy

elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have

eliminated. Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they

react to (except Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can

not.

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Tropical fruits including mandarin oranges? Our guy loves these...hate to remove

them...

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: April-01-11 2:29 PM

Subject: Re: diet

There are some foods that are never allowed; tropical fruits, whole grains,

nuts... Some are used in moderation; white rice, potatoes. Each child gets an

food allergy panel to determine what cannot be eaten. Best.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 31, 2011, at 9:11 AM, " LH " <lrkhmomx3@...

<mailto:lrkhmomx3%40aol.com> > wrote:

> I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm

wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy

elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have eliminated.

Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to (except

Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not.

>

>

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We never had a problem with any citrus just things like Pineapple guava and

berries. Bananas are fine as well.

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From: and Freeman <freemanbk@...>

Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 7:16:12 PM

Subject: RE: diet

Tropical fruits including mandarin oranges? Our guy loves these...hate to remove

them...

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: April-01-11 2:29 PM

Subject: Re: diet

There are some foods that are never allowed; tropical fruits, whole grains,

nuts... Some are used in moderation; white rice, potatoes. Each child gets an

food allergy panel to determine what cannot be eaten. Best.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 31, 2011, at 9:11 AM, " LH " <lrkhmomx3@...

<mailto:lrkhmomx3%40aol.com> > wrote:

> I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm

>wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy

>elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have eliminated.

>Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to (except

>Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not.

>

>

>

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Depending on whether kids have a high IgE or are considered allergic kids,

citrus is a common allergen and many kids need to eliminate it from their

diet. My son has never been able to have oranges, lemons, limes, grapefruit

etc... Dr. G doesn't even want small amounts in things like gummy fruit for

my boy.

Diet, aside from the big triggers of cow's dairy, whole grains, tropical

fruit and berries, varies from kid to kid.

Whenever something is in question, eliminate it and look for any changes in

behaviour - attention span or hyper activity are good cues, as well as skin

issues like peeling lips, red ears, flushed cheeks, bumpy dry skin, eczema

etc.Eliminations, in our experience should be about a month, then

reintroduce and look for any reactions.

Lori

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klimas

Sent: April-02-11 6:46 AM

Subject: Re: diet

We never had a problem with any citrus just things like Pineapple guava and

berries. Bananas are fine as well.

________________________________

From: and Freeman <freemanbk@...

<mailto:freemanbk%40ns.sympatico.ca> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 7:16:12 PM

Subject: RE: diet

Tropical fruits including mandarin oranges? Our guy loves these...hate to

remove

them...

From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

Sent: April-01-11 2:29 PM

<mailto:%40>

Subject: Re: diet

There are some foods that are never allowed; tropical fruits, whole grains,

nuts... Some are used in moderation; white rice, potatoes. Each child gets

an

food allergy panel to determine what cannot be eaten. Best.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 31, 2011, at 9:11 AM, " LH " <lrkhmomx3@...

<mailto:lrkhmomx3%40aol.com>

<mailto:lrkhmomx3%40aol.com> > wrote:

> I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm

>wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy

>elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have

eliminated.

>Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to

(except

>Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not.

>

>

>

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I love oranges too, especialy mandarin, but that is the only food I know of that

puts me straight to bed.  Nothing else does that but OJ or oranges.  I have to

go to bed for a few hours within an hour of drinking it.  Since I used to drink

it every day, I didn't connect it - couldn't tell, until I ran out for a few

days.  I had a whole orange a couple of years ago, having forgotten completely

about it, and found myself in bed again.

My son also loves them, but gets really dark circles under his eyes.

:( They might be a big trigger.  Sorry.

________________________________

From: and Freeman <freemanbk@...>

Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 6:16:12 PM

Subject: RE: diet

 

Tropical fruits including mandarin oranges? Our guy loves these...hate to remove

them...

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: April-01-11 2:29 PM

Subject: Re: diet

There are some foods that are never allowed; tropical fruits, whole grains,

nuts... Some are used in moderation; white rice, potatoes. Each child gets an

food allergy panel to determine what cannot be eaten. Best.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 31, 2011, at 9:11 AM, " LH " <lrkhmomx3@...

<mailto:lrkhmomx3%40aol.com> > wrote:

> I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm

>wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy

>elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have eliminated.

>Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to (except

>Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not.

>

>

>

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Pretty much, there's only a few standard no-no's on the diet: no dairy, no

whole grain (except we were always allowed to have whole grain oats back then

but my kid wasn't reacting to them), no nuts, and no tropical fruit.  Those are

the highest allergens.

The other diet standard (and maybe the most important part) is close to the

maintenance portion of " The Zone " diet. High protein, low carb, almost no

sugar.

Only kids showing labs suggesting a major food problem (elevated eosiniphils,

very high IgE, the food allergy panel, and something else Dr G sees in the

immune panels that I've never figured out) get more restrictions like no corn,

etc.  White rice is ok for almost everyone - but limiting the amount  because

it's too high in carbs.  If a kid has eczema, then no eggs, for example.

It's not even as strict for most as GFCF - some things with traces of dairy, as

long as it makes up 2% or less of the ingredients are somehow ok for our less

sensitive kids, whereas on the GFCF diet, not a molecule is ok, not even cooking

in the same toaster for some.

Just about any kind of vegetable is ok.  So why won't all of our kids love

them?? That's just not fair. 

HTH

________________________________

From: LH <lrkhmomx3@...>

Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:11:44 AM

Subject: diet

 

I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm

wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy

elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have eliminated.

Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to (except

Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not.

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Hi :

What you have said about the Zone diet is the truth. It is the most

anti-inflammatory. It hurts me to see people keep exchanging recipes that are

all anti-inflammatory.

A simple rule of thumb. If it doesn't contain the original fiber, it is an

inflammatory food. Even if it is natural and organic it can be inflammatory.

An orange is inflammatory because you are getting sugar without fiber. An apple

is anti-inflammatory because you get fiber with the sugar when you eat it.

Apple juice is inflammatory because there is no fiber. ALL sugar drinks ( soy,

rice, milk, juices.....) are inflammatory because they contain no fiber.

99% of adult diets are inflammatory as they are based on shopping in the

center aisles of supermarkets. If we eat inflammatory diets ourselves, what are

the chances of creating an anti-inflammatory diet for our kids?

Probiotics, enzymes, etc will have minimal effect as long as we use

inflammatory foods. Its like trying to put out a forest fire ( inflammation)

while feeding it fuel ( ANY sugar).

The Zone diet is the most potent anti-inflammatory diet I have come across.

I have come across two adults on this forum that have recovered -Autistic

children by using anti-inflammatory methods. One used roundworms to control

inflammation. http://goo.gl/RIyz2

The other adult used non-steroidal anti-inflamamtories. I found in the Zone

books by Dr Barry Sears that he doesn't recommend these to assist in controlling

inflammation.

It was my using the basis of the Zone diet with some adaption to control

inflammation that allowed me to escape -CFS after 25 years and 3 months.

Once I used this diet I was free within a few months. It stunned me ( and made

me somewhat upset), how effective a strict and true-anti-inflammatory diet can

be and not a single doctor or naturalpath in all those years even mentioned the

word inflammation.

McCarthy stated and so have various doctors that CFS is only adult

onset autism. The brain fog, pain, poor memory, body aches, mood swings is

what I experienced for 25 years. I am sure the connection to -autism is

quite evident.

I believe Dr G's diet focuses on low sugar and anti-inflammation but I will

have to buy his book to understand it more. From watching ALL his youtube

videos, he mostly certainty seems to believe diseases have a biochemical

basis. Sugar is the #1 inflammatory biochemical.

Can I ask most of you a question? Has anyone here followed a strict

anti-inflammatory diet for a minimum of 3 months and logged each day of it?

Either for themselves or for someone that has a condition?

Thanks

Rick

>

> Pretty much, there's only a few standard no-no's on the diet: no dairy,

no

> whole grain (except we were always allowed to have whole grain oats back then

> but my kid wasn't reacting to them), no nuts, and no tropical fruit.  Those

are

> the highest allergens.

>

> The other diet standard (and maybe the most important part) is close to the

> maintenance portion of " The Zone " diet. High protein, low carb, almost no

sugar.

>

> Only kids showing labs suggesting a major food problem (elevated eosiniphils,

> very high IgE, the food allergy panel, and something else Dr G sees in the

> immune panels that I've never figured out) get more restrictions like no corn,

> etc.  White rice is ok for almost everyone - but limiting the amount 

because

> it's too high in carbs.  If a kid has eczema, then no eggs, for example.

>

> It's not even as strict for most as GFCF - some things with traces of dairy,

as

> long as it makes up 2% or less of the ingredients are somehow ok for our less

> sensitive kids, whereas on the GFCF diet, not a molecule is ok, not even

cooking

> in the same toaster for some.

>

> Just about any kind of vegetable is ok.  So why won't all of our kids love

> them?? That's just not fair. 

>

>

> HTH

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: LH <lrkhmomx3@...>

>

> Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:11:44 AM

> Subject: diet

>

>  

> I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm

> wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy

> elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have

eliminated.

> Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to (except

> Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Rick,

Your experience with the Zone Diet is fascinating. I have ME/CFS, Lyme Disease

and XMRV. I am celiac and intolerant to eggs. Currenly on both avtivirals

(Famvir & Valcyte for EBV & HHV6) and antibiotics(Doxycycline & Zithromax for

Lyme & Mycoplasma Pneumonia). I would certainly consider myself to have .

I'm curious, over your 25 years did you test positive for any of the common

viruses or co-infections - EBV, HHV6, CMV, Lyme, mycoplasma pneumonia, etc. And

if so, besides a decrease in symptoms on the zone diet have you seen a decrease

in titers?

As I'm sure you experience, there are so many directions to research. After 3.5

years I'm just now digging into diet beyond my gluten/egg intolerance. I'd love

to hear more of your experience, any recommendations, etc.

Best,

Lannie

Lannieinthelymelight.blogspot.com

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On Apr 2, 2011, at 10:41 AM, " rickasia2008 " <rickthelearner@...> wrote:

> Hi :

> What you have said about the Zone diet is the truth. It is the most

anti-inflammatory. It hurts me to see people keep exchanging recipes that are

all anti-inflammatory.

> A simple rule of thumb. If it doesn't contain the original fiber, it is an

inflammatory food. Even if it is natural and organic it can be inflammatory. An

orange is inflammatory because you are getting sugar without fiber. An apple is

anti-inflammatory because you get fiber with the sugar when you eat it. Apple

juice is inflammatory because there is no fiber. ALL sugar drinks ( soy, rice,

milk, juices.....) are inflammatory because they contain no fiber.

> 99% of adult diets are inflammatory as they are based on shopping in the

center aisles of supermarkets. If we eat inflammatory diets ourselves, what are

the chances of creating an anti-inflammatory diet for our kids?

> Probiotics, enzymes, etc will have minimal effect as long as we use

inflammatory foods. Its like trying to put out a forest fire ( inflammation)

while feeding it fuel ( ANY sugar).

> The Zone diet is the most potent anti-inflammatory diet I have come across.

> I have come across two adults on this forum that have recovered -Autistic

children by using anti-inflammatory methods. One used roundworms to control

inflammation. http://goo.gl/RIyz2

> The other adult used non-steroidal anti-inflamamtories. I found in the Zone

books by Dr Barry Sears that he doesn't recommend these to assist in controlling

inflammation.

> It was my using the basis of the Zone diet with some adaption to control

inflammation that allowed me to escape -CFS after 25 years and 3 months.

Once I used this diet I was free within a few months. It stunned me ( and made

me somewhat upset), how effective a strict and true-anti-inflammatory diet can

be and not a single doctor or naturalpath in all those years even mentioned the

word inflammation.

> McCarthy stated and so have various doctors that CFS is only adult onset

autism. The brain fog, pain, poor memory, body aches, mood swings is what I

experienced for 25 years. I am sure the connection to -autism is quite

evident.

> I believe Dr G's diet focuses on low sugar and anti-inflammation but I will

have to buy his book to understand it more. From watching ALL his youtube

videos, he mostly certainty seems to believe diseases have a biochemical

basis. Sugar is the #1 inflammatory biochemical.

> Can I ask most of you a question? Has anyone here followed a strict

anti-inflammatory diet for a minimum of 3 months and logged each day of it?

Either for themselves or for someone that has a condition?

> Thanks

> Rick

>

>

> >

> > Pretty much, there's only a few standard no-no's on the diet: no dairy,

no

> > whole grain (except we were always allowed to have whole grain oats back

then

> > but my kid wasn't reacting to them), no nuts, and no tropical fruit.Â

Those are

> > the highest allergens.

> >

> > The other diet standard (and maybe the most important part) is close to

the

> > maintenance portion of " The Zone " diet. High protein, low carb, almost no

sugar.

> >

> > Only kids showing labs suggesting a major food problem (elevated

eosiniphils,

> > very high IgE, the food allergy panel, and something else Dr G sees in the

> > immune panels that I've never figured out) get more restrictions like no

corn,

> > etc. White rice is ok for almost everyone - but limiting the amountÂ

because

> > it's too high in carbs. If a kid has eczema, then no eggs, for example.

> >

> > It's not even as strict for most as GFCF - some things with traces of dairy,

as

> > long as it makes up 2% or less of the ingredients are somehow ok for our

less

> > sensitive kids, whereas on the GFCF diet, not a molecule is ok, not even

cooking

> > in the same toaster for some.

> >

> > Just about any kind of vegetable is ok. So why won't all of our kids love

> > them?? That's just not fair.Â

> >

> >

> > HTH

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: LH <lrkhmomx3@...>

> >

> > Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:11:44 AM

> > Subject: diet

> >

> > Â

> > I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm

> > wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy

> > elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have

eliminated.

> > Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to

(except

> > Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Lannie:

I gave up on testing and doctors many years ago. For example, you can test

positive for HHV6 and be healthy. Or you can test positive for HHV6 and be

sick. Same for pretty much all the viruses.

I have found just like the movie Lorenzo's Oil, most people are not

interested in science. Conversely, they believe ( unbelievably to me in this

age of the Internet) that answers can only come from those that have formal

training. Again, just like Lorenzo's Oil.

The final hurdle I have found is our inability to follow a protocol for a set

period of time. If a person is not using a log book to log what they are doing

daily, they are not following a protocol. Rich people typically get better

because they have a coach to ensure they have a protocol and they stick to the

protocol.

I pretty much picked up most of my understanding about having to change from

Tony Robbins. For example, the 7 keys to change. With the first key being "

get upset " . Yup, that is from Tony.

I still follow my protocol and still log it. My get better wasn't chance. It

is from my finding an anti-inflammatory protocol based on the Zone books,

logging what I eat and take for supplements daily and sticking to it

religiously.

Interestingly, Dr Barry Sears books flat out state how his diet helps

inflammatory diseases such as CFS, Autism, Cancer, etc.

That is why I asked at the end of my first posting in this thread about how

many people use a log book. Without a log book to show what we are doing, we

are pretty much stuck in the movie " Groundhog Day " . Just going in circles. Once

we do use a logbook, it shows how difficult it is to follow a protocol because

we constantly find reasons why we know better that something should be added or

subtracted.

I have made references in previous postings about Lorenzo's Oil because I

admire what they did so much. Without the Internet, with high communication

costs, with communications that were slow, with the clock ticking on their

child's life, they still used science to identify what the problem was, then

they used to science to identify a solution. What they accomplished as

laypeople in the early 1980's is nothing short of incredible. I take my hat off

to them.

I am on this forum because of the commonality of belief here about

inflammation being the root cause. I mean, its even in the title " " .

I just came from a 2 hour bike ride, stay awake 18 hours no problem, clear

headed, no pain and have more energy ( but never hungry) than since I was 22.

The price I have to pay? A strict, strict diet. I am more than happy to pay

the price.

Hope my reply was not overly disjointed. :-)

Rick

> > >

> > > Pretty much, there's only a few standard no-no's on the diet: no

dairy, no

> > > whole grain (except we were always allowed to have whole grain oats back

then

> > > but my kid wasn't reacting to them), no nuts, and no tropical fruit.Â

Those are

> > > the highest allergens.

> > >

> > > The other diet standard (and maybe the most important part) is close to

the

> > > maintenance portion of " The Zone " diet. High protein, low carb, almost

no sugar.

> > >

> > > Only kids showing labs suggesting a major food problem (elevated

eosiniphils,

> > > very high IgE, the food allergy panel, and something else Dr G sees in

the

> > > immune panels that I've never figured out) get more restrictions like no

corn,

> > > etc. White rice is ok for almost everyone - but limiting the amountÂ

because

> > > it's too high in carbs. If a kid has eczema, then no eggs, for example.

> > >

> > > It's not even as strict for most as GFCF - some things with traces of

dairy, as

> > > long as it makes up 2% or less of the ingredients are somehow ok for our

less

> > > sensitive kids, whereas on the GFCF diet, not a molecule is ok, not even

cooking

> > > in the same toaster for some.

> > >

> > > Just about any kind of vegetable is ok. So why won't all of our kids

love

> > > them?? That's just not fair.Â

> > >

> > >

> > > HTH

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: LH <lrkhmomx3@>

> > >

> > > Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:11:44 AM

> > > Subject: diet

> > >

> > > Â

> > > I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if I'm

> > > wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides Dairy

> > > elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have

eliminated.

> > > Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to

(except

> > > Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi Rick,

No not disjointed at all. I am going to get my hands on the zone diet book right

away. Thank you. Do you also strictly follow Dr. G's rules of no dairy, whole

wheat, nuts and citrus?

I'm interested by your daily logging. When first ill I started a similar habit.

But I found it to be a negative experience for me. I equate it to journalling.

And my experience is that it's a good exercise for me as long as I'm writing a

gratitude journal. If I dont keep those parameters it seems as if writing down

anything negative just gives the bad reaction/experience/situation more power. I

know exactly what meds/supplements I take each day, jot down any variances as

they occur and then meet with my doctor about every 6 weeks. But maybe I should

try this again. With more of a scientific approach. Keep it next to my meds. I

have to check off each time I take meds and fill in what I eat. I'll give it a

go!

I don't know Dr. Barry Sears. I'll be sure to google him.

Well I really appreciate your thoughts on all of this. I'm with you, if it

takes following a strict diet to get something/anything back, I'm willing!

Thanks!!!

Lannie

Lannieinthelymelight.blogspot.com

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On Apr 2, 2011, at 8:30 PM, " rickasia2008 " <rickthelearner@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Lannie:

> I gave up on testing and doctors many years ago. For example, you can test

positive for HHV6 and be healthy. Or you can test positive for HHV6 and be sick.

Same for pretty much all the viruses.

> I have found just like the movie Lorenzo's Oil, most people are not interested

in science. Conversely, they believe ( unbelievably to me in this age of the

Internet) that answers can only come from those that have formal training.

Again, just like Lorenzo's Oil.

> The final hurdle I have found is our inability to follow a protocol for a set

period of time. If a person is not using a log book to log what they are doing

daily, they are not following a protocol. Rich people typically get better

because they have a coach to ensure they have a protocol and they stick to the

protocol.

> I pretty much picked up most of my understanding about having to change from

Tony Robbins. For example, the 7 keys to change. With the first key being " get

upset " . Yup, that is from Tony.

> I still follow my protocol and still log it. My get better wasn't chance. It

is from my finding an anti-inflammatory protocol based on the Zone books,

logging what I eat and take for supplements daily and sticking to it

religiously.

> Interestingly, Dr Barry Sears books flat out state how his diet helps

inflammatory diseases such as CFS, Autism, Cancer, etc.

> That is why I asked at the end of my first posting in this thread about how

many people use a log book. Without a log book to show what we are doing, we are

pretty much stuck in the movie " Groundhog Day " . Just going in circles. Once we

do use a logbook, it shows how difficult it is to follow a protocol because we

constantly find reasons why we know better that something should be added or

subtracted.

> I have made references in previous postings about Lorenzo's Oil because I

admire what they did so much. Without the Internet, with high communication

costs, with communications that were slow, with the clock ticking on their

child's life, they still used science to identify what the problem was, then

they used to science to identify a solution. What they accomplished as laypeople

in the early 1980's is nothing short of incredible. I take my hat off to them.

> I am on this forum because of the commonality of belief here about

inflammation being the root cause. I mean, its even in the title " " .

> I just came from a 2 hour bike ride, stay awake 18 hours no problem, clear

headed, no pain and have more energy ( but never hungry) than since I was 22.

The price I have to pay? A strict, strict diet. I am more than happy to pay the

price.

> Hope my reply was not overly disjointed. :-)

> Rick

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Pretty much, there's only a few standard no-no's on the diet: no

dairy, no

> > > > whole grain (except we were always allowed to have whole grain oats back

then

> > > > but my kid wasn't reacting to them), no nuts, and no tropical

fruit. Those are

> > > > the highest allergens.

> > > >

> > > > The other diet standard (and maybe the most important part) is

close to the

> > > > maintenance portion of " The Zone " diet. High protein, low carb,

almost no sugar.

> > > >

> > > > Only kids showing labs suggesting a major food problem (elevated

eosiniphils,

> > > > very high IgE, the food allergy panel, and something else Dr G sees

in the

> > > > immune panels that I've never figured out) get more restrictions like no

corn,

> > > > etc. White rice is ok for almost everyone - but limiting the

amount because

> > > > it's too high in carbs. If a kid has eczema, then no eggs, for

example.

> > > >

> > > > It's not even as strict for most as GFCF - some things with traces of

dairy, as

> > > > long as it makes up 2% or less of the ingredients are somehow ok

for our less

> > > > sensitive kids, whereas on the GFCF diet, not a molecule is ok, not even

cooking

> > > > in the same toaster for some.

> > > >

> > > > Just about any kind of vegetable is ok. So why won't all of our

kids love

> > > > them?? That's just not fair.Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > HTH

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > From: LH <lrkhmomx3@>

> > > >

> > > > Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:11:44 AM

> > > > Subject: diet

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > > I keep reading these e-mails about the diet. Please correct me if

I'm

> > > > wrong, but there is not a blanket standard for every child (besides

Dairy

> > > > elimination). I have read of so many different foods that kids have

eliminated.

> > > > Isn't NIDs diet tailored to each child depending on what they react to

(except

> > > > Dairy)? Some can tolerate corn, white rice, etc. Some can not.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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