Guest guest Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 I too had three perfect daughters and after the MMR the big change happened. Thank God they are well now, ages 21 23 and 24 Re: Study Linking Vaccine to Autism Was Fraud, Journal ReportsBy THE ASSOCIATED PRES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Actually measles is a killer especially for groups with little historical immunity. Eg those outside the African/Eurasian genotype. In virgin field epidemics measles is as deadly as smallpox or bubonic plague. I don't believe in stacking vaccines or unneccesarry ones. But some do save lives and cod liver oil or garlic extract will not save you. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 8, 2011, at 2:11 AM, " rwb000 " <snccla@...> wrote: > Assuming this story is accurate (which it isn't) check the VAERS data for injuries from vaccines and compare to injuries from measles - it's not close - many more vaccine damaged - BILLIONS of dollars paid to vaccine damaged - measles relatively harmless, especially when treated with COD LIVER OIL as done in a significant portion of the rest of the world where they do not give MMR. > > Go to Generation Rescue and read the 11 page paper in its entirety - Wakefield did not say any of the things he is accused of, but if people just believe what they read from reporters who regurgitate what one man, Deer, inaccurately reported, it appears negative. Read for yourself and get the entire facts. > > Wakefield results have been replicated numerous times. > > BTW - my perfectly normally developing baby had a reaction to the MMR, lost eye contact, language and social skills - Dx'd Autism - I saw the reaction first hand. > > Protocols designed to reverse the adverse effects of vaccines are recovering my son whose ATEC has dropped from almost 100 to about 25. He will be recovered and lose Dx in a few more years. He is not on any Rx medications, the healthiest he's ever been (missed 1 day of school in past 2 years) gets straight A's, school band - clarinet, sports galore and regaining social. > > this raises important questions: > Street Corner Autism Debate http://bit.ly/gSGWGT > > BTW - isn't it odd that this 11 year old paper becomes front page news the week PAUL OFFIT (owner of several vaccine patents) has a book coming out? > > Is it coincidence that JULIE GERBERDING, prior head of the CDC Vaccine division, approved OFFIT's Vaccine and now she is HEAD OF MERCK's VACCINE DIVISION? > > Dr's used be taught in MEDICAL SCHOOL to prescribe HEROIN and COCAINE until 1920's. Cigarettes until mid 1950's. Aspirin 1970's. Numerous drugs once thought safe pulled from the market. We need to keep an open mind and accurately assess the number and combinations of vaccnies we give our kids. The studies have never been done. > > Doesn't that make sense? > > > > > > Study Linking Vaccine to Autism Was Fraud, Journal ReportsBy THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > > Filed at 12:15 a.m. EST on January 06, 2011 > > > > LONDON (AP) — The first study to link a childhood vaccine to autism was based on doctored information about the children involved, according to a new report on the widely discredited research. > > > > The conclusions of the 1998 paper by Wakefield and colleagues was renounced by 10 of its 13 authors and later retracted by the medical journal Lancet, where it was published. Still, the suggestion the MMR shot was connected to autism spooked parents worldwide and immunization rates for measles, mumps and rubella have never fully recovered. > > > > A new examination found, by comparing the reported diagnoses in the paper to hospital records, that Wakefield and colleagues altered facts about patients in their study. > > > > The analysis, by British journalist Deer, found that despite the claim in Wakefield's paper that the 12 children studied were normal until they had the MMR shot, five had previously documented developmental problems. Deer also found that all the cases were somehow misrepresented when he compared data from medical records and the children's parents. > > > > Wakefield could not be reached for comment despite repeated calls and requests to the publisher of his recent book, which claims there is a connection between vaccines and autism that has been ignored by the medical establishment. Wakefield now lives in the U.S. where he enjoys a vocal following including celebrity supporters like McCarthy. > > > > Deer's article was paid for by the Sunday Times of London and Britain's Channel 4 television network. It was published online Thursday in the medical journal, BMJ. > > > > In an accompanying editorial, BMJ editor Fiona Godlee and colleagues called Wakefield's study " an elaborate fraud. " They said Wakefield's work in other journals should be examined to see if it should be retracted. > > > > Last May, Wakefield was stripped of his right to practice medicine in Britain. Many other published studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccination and autism. > > > > But measles has surged since Wakefield's paper was published and there are sporadic outbreaks in Europe and the U.S. In 2008, measles was deemed endemic in England and Wales. > > > > ___ > > > > Online: > > > > www.bmj.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 JB Handley's response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERTgmlfxj7I & feature=player_embedded Velma Sent from my iPhone On Jan 8, 2011, at 10:05 AM, " Rapid Recovery Hyperbarics " <hyperbaric1@...> wrote: > I too had three perfect daughters and after the MMR the big change happened. Thank God they are well now, ages 21 23 and 24 > > Re: Study Linking Vaccine to Autism Was Fraud, Journal ReportsBy THE ASSOCIATED PRES > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I would not vaccinate a new born w/ a sibling that has autism. Hold off and do more research. If the hep B is given at birth the kid is several times more likely to develop autism (I think it was 2,5 to 3 times more likely). If the DTAP is given the first 6 mos of life then the child has a much greater chance of having asthma. The flu vaccine still has mercury. The chicken pox vaccine can wear off and if you get chicken pox as an adult it's much worse......best to get chicken pox as a child.  My NT son I held off vaccinating till he was older and we did only a few vaccines then well spaced out. He is perfectly healthy and smart. Most of his peers are not healthy. In his kindergarten class,  5 out of 20 kids had severe food allergies. My son is now 12 years old. He know several kids who have diabetes, asthma, learning disabilities and bevaioral issues. A lot of his peers are struggeling academically.....they can't pay attention, focus,poor coordination, have poor eye contact. etc. THe list of issues with vaccinated kids goes on and on.  > > From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill@...> > Subject: Re: Re: Study Linking Vaccine to Autism Was Fraud, Journal ReportsBy THE ASSOCIATED PRES > > Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 1:35 PM > > > > It is not just the vaccines it's the timing and boosters. You can test to see if > a child still has immunity and test to see if they have weak immune systems. We > should have a program that allow for parents to get their kids vaccinated > without the danger and then there would be no problem. > > ________________________________ > From: <jlhank80@...> > > Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 12:21:14 PM > Subject: Re: Study Linking Vaccine to Autism Was Fraud, Journal ReportsBy > THE ASSOCIATED PRES > > right on . > -Jen > > > > > > > > > Study Linking Vaccine to Autism Was Fraud, Journal ReportsBy THE ASSOCIATED > >PRESS > > > > Filed at 12:15 a.m. EST on January 06, 2011 > > > > > > > > LONDON (AP) †" The first study to link a childhood vaccine to autism was > >based on doctored information about the children involved, according to a new > >report on the widely discredited research. > > > > > > > > > > The conclusions of the 1998 paper by Wakefield and colleagues was > >renounced by 10 of its 13 authors and later retracted by the medical journal > >Lancet, where it was published. Still, the suggestion the MMR shot was connected > >to autism spooked parents worldwide and immunization rates for measles, mumps > >and rubella have never fully recovered. > > > > > > > > > > A new examination found, by comparing the reported diagnoses in the paper > >to hospital records, that Wakefield and colleagues altered facts about patients > >in their study. > > > > > > > > > > The analysis, by British journalist Deer, found that despite the > >claim in Wakefield's paper that the 12 children studied were normal until they > >had the MMR shot, five had previously documented developmental problems. Deer > >also found that all the cases were somehow misrepresented when he compared data > >from medical records and the children's parents. > > > > > > > > > > Wakefield could not be reached for comment despite repeated calls and > >requests to the publisher of his recent book, which claims there is a connection > >between vaccines and autism that has been ignored by the medical establishment. > >Wakefield now lives in the U.S. where he enjoys a vocal following including > >celebrity supporters like McCarthy. > > > > > > > > > > Deer's article was paid for by the Sunday Times of London and Britain's > >Channel 4 television network. It was published online Thursday in the medical > >journal, BMJ. > > > > > > > > > > In an accompanying editorial, BMJ editor Fiona Godlee and colleagues called > >Wakefield's study " an elaborate fraud. " They said Wakefield's work in other > >journals should be examined to see if it should be retracted. > > > > > > > > > > Last May, Wakefield was stripped of his right to practice medicine in > >Britain. Many other published studies have shown no connection between the MMR > >vaccination and autism. > > > > > > > > > > But measles has surged since Wakefield's paper was published and there are > >sporadic outbreaks in Europe and the U.S. In 2008, measles was deemed endemic in > >England and Wales. > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > Online: > > > > > > > > www.bmj.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Where can I find these statistics and research about the HEP B that you speak of? I always thought the Hep. B was a culprit b/c we noticed regression very early in infancy. I would love to read more about this if anyone has the links, etc., please pass them on. Thanks. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Fund Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 11:59 AM Subject: Re: Re: Study Linking Vaccine to Autism Was Fraud, Journal ReportsBy THE ASSOCIATED PRES I would not vaccinate a new born w/ a sibling that has autism. Hold off and do more research. If the hep B is given at birth the kid is several times more likely to develop autism (I think it was 2,5 to 3 times more likely). If the DTAP is given the first 6 mos of life then the child has a much greater chance of having asthma. The flu vaccine still has mercury. The chicken pox vaccine can wear off and if you get chicken pox as an adult it's much worse......best to get chicken pox as a child. My NT son I held off vaccinating till he was older and we did only a few vaccines then well spaced out. He is perfectly healthy and smart. Most of his peers are not healthy. In his kindergarten class, 5 out of 20 kids had severe food allergies. My son is now 12 years old. He know several kids who have diabetes, asthma, learning disabilities and bevaioral issues. A lot of his peers are struggeling academically.....they can't pay attention, focus,poor coordination, have poor eye contact. etc. THe list of issues with vaccinated kids goes on and on. > > From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill@... <mailto:klimas_bill%40> > > Subject: Re: Re: Study Linking Vaccine to Autism Was Fraud, Journal ReportsBy THE ASSOCIATED PRES > <mailto:%40> > Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 1:35 PM > > > > It is not just the vaccines it's the timing and boosters. You can test to see if > a child still has immunity and test to see if they have weak immune systems. We > should have a program that allow for parents to get their kids vaccinated > without the danger and then there would be no problem. > > ________________________________ > From: <jlhank80@... <mailto:jlhank80%40> > > <mailto:%40> > Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 12:21:14 PM > Subject: Re: Study Linking Vaccine to Autism Was Fraud, Journal ReportsBy > THE ASSOCIATED PRES > > right on . > -Jen > > > > > > > > > Study Linking Vaccine to Autism Was Fraud, Journal ReportsBy THE ASSOCIATED > >PRESS > > > > Filed at 12:15 a.m. EST on January 06, 2011 > > > > > > > > LONDON (AP) †" The first study to link a childhood vaccine to autism was > >based on doctored information about the children involved, according to a new > >report on the widely discredited research. > > > > > > > > > > The conclusions of the 1998 paper by Wakefield and colleagues was > >renounced by 10 of its 13 authors and later retracted by the medical journal > >Lancet, where it was published. Still, the suggestion the MMR shot was connected > >to autism spooked parents worldwide and immunization rates for measles, mumps > >and rubella have never fully recovered. > > > > > > > > > > A new examination found, by comparing the reported diagnoses in the paper > >to hospital records, that Wakefield and colleagues altered facts about patients > >in their study. > > > > > > > > > > The analysis, by British journalist Deer, found that despite the > >claim in Wakefield's paper that the 12 children studied were normal until they > >had the MMR shot, five had previously documented developmental problems. Deer > >also found that all the cases were somehow misrepresented when he compared data > >from medical records and the children's parents. > > > > > > > > > > Wakefield could not be reached for comment despite repeated calls and > >requests to the publisher of his recent book, which claims there is a connection > >between vaccines and autism that has been ignored by the medical establishment. > >Wakefield now lives in the U.S. where he enjoys a vocal following including > >celebrity supporters like McCarthy. > > > > > > > > > > Deer's article was paid for by the Sunday Times of London and Britain's > >Channel 4 television network. It was published online Thursday in the medical > >journal, BMJ. > > > > > > > > > > In an accompanying editorial, BMJ editor Fiona Godlee and colleagues called > >Wakefield's study " an elaborate fraud. " They said Wakefield's work in other > >journals should be examined to see if it should be retracted. > > > > > > > > > > Last May, Wakefield was stripped of his right to practice medicine in > >Britain. Many other published studies have shown no connection between the MMR > >vaccination and autism. > > > > > > > > > > But measles has surged since Wakefield's paper was published and there are > >sporadic outbreaks in Europe and the U.S. In 2008, measles was deemed endemic in > >England and Wales. > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > Online: > > > > > > > > www.bmj.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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