Guest guest Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Dr G has said in the past that amoxicillin and augmentin (and one more a) have an effect on the immune system that is not desirable in . Here's an example that Jay posted on another list: Eur J Dermatol. 2010 Jan-Feb;20(1):68-73. Epub 2009 Oct 12. Amoxicillin-induced flare in patients with DRESS (Drug Reaction with Eosinophilia and Systemic Symptoms): report of seven cases and demonstration of a direct effect of amoxicillin on Human Herpesvirus 6 replication in vitro. Mardivirin L, Valeyrie-Allanore L, Branlant-Redon E, Beneton N, Jidar K, Barbaud A, Crickx B, Ranger-Rogez S, Descamps V. Department of Virology, Centre Hospitalier Universitaire Dupuytren, Limoges, France. Abstract Amoxicillin is known to induce exanthema in patients with EBV-induced infectious mononucleosis. It is widely recognized that the reactivation of herpesviruses, including HHV-6 (Human Herpesvirus 6) and EBV (Epstein Barr virus) is associated with DRESS (Drug Reaction with Eosinophilia and Systemic Symptoms). We report 7 cases of amoxicillin-induced flare in patients with DRESS induced by other drugs and investigate whether amoxicillin may have a direct effect on HHV-6 replication in vitro. 7 cases of DRESS with amoxicillin-induced flare were retrospectively analysed. The influence of amoxicillin on HHV-6 HST strain replication was studied in vitro in a human T lymphoblastoid MT4 cell line. The viral replication was quantified by immunofluorescence assay and by real-time polymerase chain reaction (PCR). Comparisons were performed using the Student's t test. Amoxicillin-induced flare was observed in 7 patients with DRESS induced by other drugs. In two cases HHV-6 reactivation was studied and was demonstrated by PCR. Amoxicillin neither modified cell viability nor cell proliferation for the range of tested concentrations. Amoxicillin increased the replication of HHV-6 at 25 microg*mL-1 and 50 microg*mL-1. Amoxicillin may induce a flare of DRESS, possibly by acting directly on herpesvirus replication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 > > Dr G has said in the past that amoxicillin and augmentin (and one more a) have > an effect on the immune system that is not desirable in . > > Here's an example that Jay posted on another list: > > Eur J Dermatol. 2010 Jan-Feb;20(1):68-73. Epub 2009 Oct 12. > > Amoxicillin-induced flare in patients with DRESS (Drug Reaction with > Eosinophilia and Systemic Symptoms): report of seven cases and demonstration of > a direct effect of amoxicillin on Human Herpesvirus 6 replication in vitro. > Mardivirin L, Valeyrie-Allanore L, Branlant-Redon E, Beneton N, Jidar K, Barbaud > A, Crickx B, Ranger-Rogez S, Descamps V. > > Department of Virology, Centre Hospitalier Universitaire Dupuytren, Limoges, > France. > > Abstract > Amoxicillin is known to induce exanthema in patients with EBV-induced infectious > mononucleosis. It is widely recognized that the reactivation of herpesviruses, > including HHV-6 (Human Herpesvirus 6) and EBV (Epstein Barr virus) is associated > with DRESS (Drug Reaction with Eosinophilia and Systemic Symptoms). We report 7 > cases of amoxicillin-induced flare in patients with DRESS induced by other drugs > and investigate whether amoxicillin may have a direct effect on HHV-6 > replication in vitro. 7 cases of DRESS with amoxicillin-induced flare were > retrospectively analysed. The influence of amoxicillin on HHV-6 HST strain > replication was studied in vitro in a human T lymphoblastoid MT4 cell line. The > viral replication was quantified by immunofluorescence assay and by real-time > polymerase chain reaction (PCR). Comparisons were performed using the Student's > t test. Amoxicillin-induced flare was observed in 7 patients with DRESS induced > by other drugs. In two cases HHV-6 reactivation was studied and was demonstrated > by PCR. Amoxicillin neither modified cell viability nor cell proliferation for > the range of tested concentrations. > > Amoxicillin increased the replication of HHV-6 at 25 microg*mL-1 and 50 > microg*mL-1. Amoxicillin may induce a flare of DRESS, possibly by acting > directly on herpesvirus replication. > > > Thanks for getting this info out now we know all the details about these meds for our children. Carole > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Very interesting! From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of chocolatiluv Sent: December-16-10 8:37 PM Subject: Re: Amoxicillin-induced flair/effect on HHV6 replication > > Dr G has said in the past that amoxicillin and augmentin (and one more a) have > an effect on the immune system that is not desirable in . > > Here's an example that Jay posted on another list: > > Eur J Dermatol. 2010 Jan-Feb;20(1):68-73. Epub 2009 Oct 12. > > Amoxicillin-induced flare in patients with DRESS (Drug Reaction with > Eosinophilia and Systemic Symptoms): report of seven cases and demonstration of > a direct effect of amoxicillin on Human Herpesvirus 6 replication in vitro. > Mardivirin L, Valeyrie-Allanore L, Branlant-Redon E, Beneton N, Jidar K, Barbaud > A, Crickx B, Ranger-Rogez S, Descamps V. > > Department of Virology, Centre Hospitalier Universitaire Dupuytren, Limoges, > France. > > Abstract > Amoxicillin is known to induce exanthema in patients with EBV-induced infectious > mononucleosis. It is widely recognized that the reactivation of herpesviruses, > including HHV-6 (Human Herpesvirus 6) and EBV (Epstein Barr virus) is associated > with DRESS (Drug Reaction with Eosinophilia and Systemic Symptoms). We report 7 > cases of amoxicillin-induced flare in patients with DRESS induced by other drugs > and investigate whether amoxicillin may have a direct effect on HHV-6 > replication in vitro. 7 cases of DRESS with amoxicillin-induced flare were > retrospectively analysed. The influence of amoxicillin on HHV-6 HST strain > replication was studied in vitro in a human T lymphoblastoid MT4 cell line. The > viral replication was quantified by immunofluorescence assay and by real-time > polymerase chain reaction (PCR). Comparisons were performed using the Student's > t test. Amoxicillin-induced flare was observed in 7 patients with DRESS induced > by other drugs. In two cases HHV-6 reactivation was studied and was demonstrated > by PCR. Amoxicillin neither modified cell viability nor cell proliferation for > the range of tested concentrations. > > Amoxicillin increased the replication of HHV-6 at 25 microg*mL-1 and 50 > microg*mL-1. Amoxicillin may induce a flare of DRESS, possibly by acting > directly on herpesvirus replication. > > > Thanks for getting this info out now we know all the details about these meds for our children. Carole > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 My son regressed severly into autism, we lost him while on Augmentin. I always wondered why, now I guess I know. I plan to bring this up when we visit a doc this spring. Rhonda Masengale On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:14 PM, <thecolemans4@...> wrote: > Dr G has said in the past that amoxicillin and augmentin (and one more a) have > an effect on the immune system that is not desirable in . > > Here's an example that Jay posted on another list: > > Eur J Dermatol. 2010 Jan-Feb;20(1):68-73. Epub 2009 Oct 12. > > Amoxicillin-induced flare in patients with DRESS (Drug Reaction with > Eosinophilia and Systemic Symptoms): report of seven cases and demonstration of > a direct effect of amoxicillin on Human Herpesvirus 6 replication in vitro. > Mardivirin L, Valeyrie-Allanore L, Branlant-Redon E, Beneton N, Jidar K, Barbaud > A, Crickx B, Ranger-Rogez S, Descamps V. > > Department of Virology, Centre Hospitalier Universitaire Dupuytren, Limoges, > France. > > Abstract > Amoxicillin is known to induce exanthema in patients with EBV-induced infectious > mononucleosis. It is widely recognized that the reactivation of herpesviruses, > including HHV-6 (Human Herpesvirus 6) and EBV (Epstein Barr virus) is associated > with DRESS (Drug Reaction with Eosinophilia and Systemic Symptoms). We report 7 > cases of amoxicillin-induced flare in patients with DRESS induced by other drugs > and investigate whether amoxicillin may have a direct effect on HHV-6 > replication in vitro. 7 cases of DRESS with amoxicillin-induced flare were > retrospectively analysed. The influence of amoxicillin on HHV-6 HST strain > replication was studied in vitro in a human T lymphoblastoid MT4 cell line. The > viral replication was quantified by immunofluorescence assay and by real-time > polymerase chain reaction (PCR). Comparisons were performed using the Student's > t test. Amoxicillin-induced flare was observed in 7 patients with DRESS induced > by other drugs. In two cases HHV-6 reactivation was studied and was demonstrated > by PCR. Amoxicillin neither modified cell viability nor cell proliferation for > the range of tested concentrations. > > Amoxicillin increased the replication of HHV-6 at 25 microg*mL-1 and 50 > microg*mL-1. Amoxicillin may induce a flare of DRESS, possibly by acting > directly on herpesvirus replication. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 My son took Amoxicillin often as an infant and toddler. He was having some mild delays until age 4 when he took amoxicillin for an ear infection and he totally spiraled down into autism for 3 days. Lost eye contact, wouldn't play with toys, just sat and spinned around in circles. I took him off the Amoxicillin and tried to figure out if it was a reaction to the med, but our doctor just didn't believe me. The doctor didn't t think amoxicillin caused any of his problems. He got a little better after getting off it, but never got back to where he was before the reaction. He is 10 years old now and I am more confused than ever. We are trying , but not seeing much improvement after 7 months. He is diagnosed with PDD-NOS, and Childhood Distintegrative Disorder. He has many symptoms of autism, but isn't like any other " autistic " kid I know. He has so many delays. Very low large motor skills, and hardly any fine motor skills. Hardly any communication skills...No clue what the word " no " means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Is there any possibility that he was exposed to a particular bacteria that triggered his spiral? Has he been properly screened/tested for Lyme and co infections. My daughter has Lyme and Bartonella which affects her CNS and function. She is taking zythromax and bactrim now and making improvements...she is worse with Amoxicillin. Just a thought. ________________________________ From: TAMMYandRYAN K <rtnkraft_1@...> nids < > Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 10:10:24 AM Subject: Re: Amoxicillin-induced flair/effect on HHV6 replication  My son took Amoxicillin often as an infant and toddler. He was having some mild delays until age 4 when he took amoxicillin for an ear infection and he totally spiraled down into autism for 3 days. Lost eye contact, wouldn't play with toys, just sat and spinned around in circles. I took him off the Amoxicillin and tried to figure out if it was a reaction to the med, but our doctor just didn't believe me. The doctor didn't t think amoxicillin caused any of his problems. He got a little better after getting off it, but never got back to where he was before the reaction. He is 10 years old now and I am more confused than ever. We are trying , but not seeing much improvement after 7 months. He is diagnosed with PDD-NOS, and Childhood Distintegrative Disorder. He has many symptoms of autism, but isn't like any other " autistic " kid I know. He has so many delays. Very low large motor skills, and hardly any fine motor skills. Hardly any communication skills...No clue what the word " no " means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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