Re: Re: New here./Caroline

[Guest guest]

 

Caroline,

My daughter's NK cells are very low but she does not stay sick with colds etc.

Her DAN says that her GI issues and cognitive " brain fog " is the way her

sickness shows. That she is constently sick and her immune system is in hyper

mode all the time. The only hope she gives me is altering her food intake. She

has " sensitivities 1+ and 2+ to some foods.She takes Valtrex/Acyclovir, lauric

acid and lysine to help with the effects of her viral load shown thru her

titers etc. She occasionally takes an antifungal. Is there anything that you

know that could help?

 

Thanks,

Petra

From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...>

Subject: Re: Re: New here....

Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 1:58 AM

 

,

One clue is a child who ³never gets sick²... theoretically, they have a body

that is in attack mode, all of the time, so they don¹t get sick. When you

think about it, that¹s not a good thing... it¹s not good for a body to be

constantly flooded with antibodies. One reason is the theory of molecular

mimicry, where the antibodies might get confused and attack something they

shouldn¹t (strep triggering rheumatic fever is a good example of this).

HTH,

Caroline G.

_________________________________________________________

Hi everyone. I have been reading a something just came to me. If a child's

immune system is overactive (as I think my child's might be) what would be

the signs if any prior to testing? Also wondering, would the treatments be

the same (like the anitvirals, antifungals, etc.)? We haven't started this

protocol yet, but very interested and researching.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Petra,

I have 2 sons whose NK cell counts are not coming up on Immunovir the way

Dr. Goldberg would like them to, and due to this he has become more focused

on their diet than ever (diet has always been a big issue). He feels that

something in their diet may be preventing their bodies from getting those NK

cells up. He is very attentive to their intake of bread at this point.

My boys are constantly on an antifungal (they¹ve been on Diflucan, Nizoral

or Amphotericin .

I wish I had the answer for you.

One thing I should have said when discussing the kids with hyper immune

systems... just because they have a supercharged immune system, that does

not mean their bodies are always efficient at fighting illness. A good

example of this is my son, who (8 years ago) became so spaced out at school

that I pulled him out for a few days (with his teacher¹s blessing). Dr.

Goldberg had been watching his ASO (strep) titers for months, and he ended

up putting my son on ERY PED. My son¹s spaciness improved so rapidly and

drastically that when I sent him back to school, his teacher called me

during the middle of the day to tell me it was a ³miracle². Now, my son did

not have any symptoms of strep... no sore throat, etcetera. Dr. Goldberg

said (and I am telling it how I remember it, not directly quoting here) that

when people with normal immune systems have strep, the antibiotic wipes out

most of the strep and then the person¹s own immune system cleans up the

little bit that is left, but evidently my son¹s body was unable to do that.

So after a bout of strep, there was this little bit simmering somewhere in

his body that just wouldn¹t go away, even though he had high antibodies to

strep in his blood.

HTH,

Caroline G.

From: Gage Vanlandingham <gager292@...>

Reply-< >

Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:02:22 -0800 (PST)

< >

Subject: Re: Re: New here./Caroline

 

Caroline,

My daughter's NK cells are very low but she does not stay sick with colds

etc. Her DAN says that her GI issues and cognitive " brain fog " is the

way her sickness shows. That she is constently sick and her immune system is

in hyper mode all the time. The only hope she gives me is altering her food

intake. She has " sensitivities 1+ and 2+ to some foods.She takes

Valtrex/Acyclovir, lauric acid and lysine to help with the effects of her

viral load shown thru her titers etc. She occasionally takes an antifungal.

Is there anything that you know that could help?

 

Thanks,

Petra

[Guest guest]

Hey Caroline,

I think that's a good explanation, especially about the strep.  That's my

experience, & it just happened with my youngest too.

I only " catch " two illnesses just about ever - strep, and mycoplasma.  Knock on

wood, I never catch anyone's cold, flu, or anything else going around either. 

Oh - except chicken pox.  I have a tiny breakout every time I'm exposed - 4

times I've been diagnosed with chicken pox, but the only severe case (and the

only one that I have no doubt was chicken pox) was in my respiratory system

instead of my skin. 

So yes, our immune systems can get so revved up.

The food thing is so wierd.  There are sometimes reasons we don't know about

why

some people can have certain foods and others can't.  I know Ms Goldberg has a

lot of knowledge about that and can remember discovering some 'good' nutrient in

a food my son was eating that was also known to do this which would cause that

and it turned out bad.  How vague was that? lol.  Seems like it was arganine

or

something like that.

________________________________

From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...>

Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 9:18:10 AM

Subject: Re: Re: New here./Caroline

 

Petra,

I have 2 sons whose NK cell counts are not coming up on Immunovir the way

Dr. Goldberg would like them to, and due to this he has become more focused

on their diet than ever (diet has always been a big issue). He feels that

something in their diet may be preventing their bodies from getting those NK

cells up. He is very attentive to their intake of bread at this point.

My boys are constantly on an antifungal (they¹ve been on Diflucan, Nizoral

or Amphotericin .

I wish I had the answer for you.

One thing I should have said when discussing the kids with hyper immune

systems... just because they have a supercharged immune system, that does

not mean their bodies are always efficient at fighting illness. A good

example of this is my son, who (8 years ago) became so spaced out at school

that I pulled him out for a few days (with his teacher¹s blessing). Dr.

Goldberg had been watching his ASO (strep) titers for months, and he ended

up putting my son on ERY PED. My son¹s spaciness improved so rapidly and

drastically that when I sent him back to school, his teacher called me

during the middle of the day to tell me it was a ³miracle². Now, my son did

not have any symptoms of strep... no sore throat, etcetera. Dr. Goldberg

said (and I am telling it how I remember it, not directly quoting here) that

when people with normal immune systems have strep, the antibiotic wipes out

most of the strep and then the person¹s own immune system cleans up the

little bit that is left, but evidently my son¹s body was unable to do that.

So after a bout of strep, there was this little bit simmering somewhere in

his body that just wouldn¹t go away, even though he had high antibodies to

strep in his blood.

HTH,

Caroline G.

From: Gage Vanlandingham <gager292@...>

Reply-< >

Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:02:22 -0800 (PST)

< >

Subject: Re: Re: New here./Caroline

 

Caroline,

My daughter's NK cells are very low but she does not stay sick with colds

etc. Her DAN says that her GI issues and cognitive " brain fog " is the

way her sickness shows. That she is constently sick and her immune system is

in hyper mode all the time. The only hope she gives me is altering her food

intake. She has " sensitivities 1+ and 2+ to some foods.She takes

Valtrex/Acyclovir, lauric acid and lysine to help with the effects of her

viral load shown thru her titers etc. She occasionally takes an antifungal.

Is there anything that you know that could help?

 

Thanks,

Petra

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

What are the symptoms of Mycoplasma?

Thanks,

Argie

On Jan 7, 2011, at 8:11 AM, wrote:

> Hey Caroline,

> I think that's a good explanation, especially about the strep.

> That's my

> experience, & it just happened with my youngest too.

> I only " catch " two illnesses just about ever - strep, and

> mycoplasma. Knock on

> wood, I never catch anyone's cold, flu, or anything else going

> around either.

> Oh - except chicken pox. I have a tiny breakout every time I'm

> exposed - 4

> times I've been diagnosed with chicken pox, but the only severe case

> (and the

> only one that I have no doubt was chicken pox) was in my respiratory

> system

> instead of my skin.

>

> So yes, our immune systems can get so revved up.

> The food thing is so wierd. There are sometimes reasons we don't

> know about why

> some people can have certain foods and others can't. I know Ms

> Goldberg has a

> lot of knowledge about that and can remember discovering some 'good'

> nutrient in

> a food my son was eating that was also known to do this which would

> cause that

> and it turned out bad. How vague was that? lol. Seems like it was

> arganine or

> something like that.

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...>

>

> Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 9:18:10 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: New here./Caroline

>

>

> Petra,

>

> I have 2 sons whose NK cell counts are not coming up on Immunovir

> the way

> Dr. Goldberg would like them to, and due to this he has become more

> focused

> on their diet than ever (diet has always been a big issue). He feels

> that

> something in their diet may be preventing their bodies from getting

> those NK

> cells up. He is very attentive to their intake of bread at this point.

>

> My boys are constantly on an antifungal (they¹ve been on Diflucan,

> Nizoral

> or Amphotericin .

>

> I wish I had the answer for you.

>

> One thing I should have said when discussing the kids with hyper

> immune

> systems... just because they have a supercharged immune system, that

> does

> not mean their bodies are always efficient at fighting illness. A good

> example of this is my son, who (8 years ago) became so spaced out at

> school

> that I pulled him out for a few days (with his teacher¹s blessing).

> Dr.

> Goldberg had been watching his ASO (strep) titers for months, and he

> ended

> up putting my son on ERY PED. My son¹s spaciness improved so rapidly

> and

> drastically that when I sent him back to school, his teacher called me

> during the middle of the day to tell me it was a ³miracle². Now, my

> son did

> not have any symptoms of strep... no sore throat, etcetera. Dr.

> Goldberg

> said (and I am telling it how I remember it, not directly quoting

> here) that

> when people with normal immune systems have strep, the antibiotic

> wipes out

> most of the strep and then the person¹s own immune system cleans up

> the

> little bit that is left, but evidently my son¹s body was unable to

> do that.

> So after a bout of strep, there was this little bit simmering

> somewhere in

> his body that just wouldn¹t go away, even though he had high

> antibodies to

> strep in his blood.

>

> HTH,

> Caroline G.

>

> From: Gage Vanlandingham <gager292@...>

> Reply-< >

> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:02:22 -0800 (PST)

> < >

> Subject: Re: Re: New here./Caroline

>

>

> Caroline,

> My daughter's NK cells are very low but she does not stay sick with

> colds

> etc. Her DAN says that her GI issues and cognitive " brain fog " is the

> way her sickness shows. That she is constently sick and her immune

> system is

> in hyper mode all the time. The only hope she gives me is altering

> her food

> intake. She has " sensitivities 1+ and 2+ to some foods.She takes

> Valtrex/Acyclovir, lauric acid and lysine to help with the effects

> of her

> viral load shown thru her titers etc. She occasionally takes an

> antifungal.

> Is there anything that you know that could help?

>

> Thanks,

> Petra

>

>