Guest guest Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 When you coil for bartonella you shouldnt herx am i correct in thinking this as it isnt a spirochete?Also do you coil your head besides coiling the rest of your body?And how often should you coil for coinfections i know its stated every 5 to 7 days for lyme but how about bart,bab,erch? Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 What I have been told is to coil bartonella every two days, then go to one day and then twice a day. I herx from the bartonella coil, I don't think that is unusual. My herx comes on quickly and resolves fairly quickly unless I overdo. I have more neuro symptoms with bart herx. And I cover all parts of the body (working up to that.) I currently treat once a day on three frequencies (now split over 2 sessions.) As I recall, babs is twice a week. Erh. maybe every 2 days, I can't recall for sure. Sherry > > When you coil for bartonella you shouldnt herx am i correct in thinking this as it isnt a spirochete?Also do you coil your head besides coiling the rest of your body?And how often should you coil for coinfections i know its stated every 5 to 7 days for lyme but how about bart,bab,erch? > Terry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 ty sherrie Thinking maybe i should coil for only lyme i tested positive from igenex and lab corp 3 years ago for bart was positive from both labs did 11 day levaquin got tendenitis then did 2 months zithromax.Was just retested by igenex and labcorp and bart not showing positive on either anylonger.Was thinking of treating with the coil nevertheless but thinking doing that and lyme might be to much as i am so very sick now as it is neurologically. Terry Subject: Re: bartonella coiling for?To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Friday, July 6, 2012, 11:15 PM What I have been told is to coil bartonella every two days, then go to one day and then twice a day. I herx from the bartonella coil, I don't think that is unusual. My herx comes on quickly and resolves fairly quickly unless I overdo. I have more neuro symptoms with bart herx. And I cover all parts of the body (working up to that.) I currently treat once a day on three frequencies (now split over 2 sessions.)As I recall, babs is twice a week. Erh. maybe every 2 days, I can't recall for sure.Sherry>> When you coil for bartonella you shouldnt herx am i correct in thinking this as it isnt a spirochete?Also do you coil your head besides coiling the rest of your body?And how often should you coil for coinfections i know its stated every 5 to 7 days for lyme but how about bart,bab,erch?> Terry> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Terry, if I was you I would consider that I still have both infections. The question is which to start with as both cause neuro issues. I started with bart but did not herx up to 5 min. Then I started coil for borrelia and did herx. Once I got some progress on borrelia, I tried the bart frequency again and herxed. So I learned that they have kind of a hierarchy that shifts over time. I would suggest starting with borrelia, mainly because 432 Hz works for many many people, while the bart frequencies are less harder to pin down. Sherry > > > > When you coil for bartonella you shouldnt herx am i correct in thinking this as it isnt a spirochete?Also do you coil your head besides coiling the rest of your body?And how often should you coil for coinfections i know its stated every 5 to 7 days for lyme but how about bart,bab,erch? > > Terry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Thank You Sherry I am having a very tough time here this weekend symptomatically.Does it ever get better? I am so very lightheaded feel like i am gonna constantly faint.I took my bp,checked my sugar and all was ok in that area.I took pinella 10 drops in 4oz of water and that gave me a headache and seems to have made me more lightheaded.I dunno... Thinking i will coil lyme first like you said tues my coiling day that would be 6 days since i coiled last.i am up to 2 minutes on my abdomen i was also doing my head but another blogger told me not to that i should wait till i do 5 minutes on the ab over the liver before i move on to the head.I think that was good advice.Hey i been using an infra sauna everyday could that make you herx you think?This is all so confusing for me.. Subject: Re: bartonella coiling for?To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, July 8, 2012, 9:02 AM Terry, if I was you I would consider that I still have both infections. The question is which to start with as both cause neuro issues. I started with bart but did not herx up to 5 min. Then I started coil for borrelia and did herx. Once I got some progress on borrelia, I tried the bart frequency again and herxed. So I learned that they have kind of a hierarchy that shifts over time. I would suggest starting with borrelia, mainly because 432 Hz works for many many people, while the bart frequencies are less harder to pin down.Sherry> >> > When you coil for bartonella you shouldnt herx am i correct in thinking this as it isnt a spirochete?Also do you coil your head besides coiling the rest of your body?And how often should you coil for coinfections i know its stated every 5 to 7 days for lyme but how about bart,bab,erch?> > Terry> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Hi Terry, I agree with Sherry, but Bartonella can grow very fast whereas Lyme is much slower to take over the body. My own experience looking back on it tells me that I should have run other frequencies on occasion just to make sure the other pathogens don't take over as you Lyme load is eradicated. My own experience was that Mycoplasma really took over when the Lyme load dropped back. Lyme is like the bully on the block that tends to keep the other organisms from taking over, once it is gone, then the others will surface usually one at a time in a pecking order. I started with Bartonella and ran the frequency twice a day for about 4 months and then went to running Lyme. I continued only running Lyme frequencies once a week until I was no longer symptomatic, a month later, Mycoplasma really took over, so my suggestion is to occasionally hit the frequencies of other pathogens as you are continuing to lower your lyme load. > > > > > > When you coil for bartonella you shouldnt herx am i correct in thinking this as it isnt a spirochete?Also do you coil your head besides coiling the rest of your body?And how often should you coil for coinfections i know its stated every 5 to 7 days for lyme but how about bart,bab,erch? > > > Terry > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Hi I think i am gonna just do lyme first ..Todays a very bad day for me severe lightheadedness as if i am gonna faint and headaches.I took pinella and this is what happened i am wondering if anyone else has had this happened. Terry Subject: Re: bartonella coiling for?To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, July 8, 2012, 3:43 PM Hi Terry,I agree with Sherry, but Bartonella can grow very fast whereas Lyme is much slower to take over the body. My own experience looking back on it tells me that I should have run other frequencies on occasion just to make sure the other pathogens don't take over as you Lyme load is eradicated. My own experience was that Mycoplasma really took over when the Lyme load dropped back. Lyme is like the bully on the block that tends to keep the other organisms from taking over, once it is gone, then the others will surface usually one at a time in a pecking order. I started with Bartonella and ran the frequency twice a day for about 4 months and then went to running Lyme. I continued only running Lyme frequencies once a week until I was no longer symptomatic, a month later, Mycoplasma really took over, so my suggestion is to occasionally hit the frequencies of other pathogens as you are continuing to lower your lyme load.> > >> > > When you coil for bartonella you shouldnt herx am i correct in thinking this as it isnt a spirochete?Also do you coil your head besides coiling the rest of your body?And how often should you coil for coinfections i know its stated every 5 to 7 days for lyme but how about bart,bab,erch?> > > Terry> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Hi Jim,You commented coiling 10 minutes for babs then 2 min. every where else.  is that 'on the liver' for the full 10 min?  i've only done 5 min. on the liver then 'plus' 2 min. each on all the other places of the body daily.  should i be upping the liver treatment to 10 min. instead of the 5? thanksbarbara   Hi I think i am gonna just do lyme first ..Todays a very bad day for me severe lightheadedness as if i am gonna faint and headaches.I took pinella and this is what happened i am wondering if anyone else has had this happened.          Terry Subject: Re: bartonella coiling for? To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, July 8, 2012, 3:43 PM  Hi Terry,I agree with Sherry, but Bartonella can grow very fast whereas Lyme is much slower to take over the body. My own experience looking back on it tells me that I should have run other frequencies on occasion just to make sure the other pathogens don't take over as you Lyme load is eradicated. My own experience was that Mycoplasma really took over when the Lyme load dropped back. Lyme is like the bully on the block that tends to keep the other organisms from taking over, once it is gone, then the others will surface usually one at a time in a pecking order. I started with Bartonella and ran the frequency twice a day for about 4 months and then went to running Lyme. I continued only running Lyme frequencies once a week until I was no longer symptomatic, a month later, Mycoplasma really took over, so my suggestion is to occasionally hit the frequencies of other pathogens as you are continuing to lower your lyme load. > > >> > > When you coil for bartonella you shouldnt herx am i correct in thinking this as it isnt a spirochete?Also do you coil your head besides coiling the rest of your body?And how often should you coil for coinfections i know its stated every 5 to 7 days for lyme but how about bart,bab,erch? > > > Terry> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Hi Terry, In order for your sauna to present you with a herx, you would have to heat up to 106 degrees, something I hope you don't do... A sauna is a good detoxer, but not a good killer... Take care, Jim > > > > > > When you coil for bartonella you shouldnt herx am i correct in thinking this as it isnt a spirochete?Also do you coil your head besides coiling the rest of your body?And how often should you coil for coinfections i know its stated every 5 to 7 days for lyme but how about bart,bab,erch? > > > Terry > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 ummmmmmmmmmmmmm jim my infra red sauna i heat it up to 130 and at that temp it takes me over 10 minutes to sweat but like i said in the previous email i am giving that a temp break Subject: Re: bartonella coiling for?To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 9:42 PM Hi Terry,In order for your sauna to present you with a herx, you would have to heat up to106 degrees, something I hope you don't do...A sauna is a good detoxer, but not a good killer...Take care,Jim> > >> > > When you coil for bartonella you shouldnt herx am i correct in thinking this as it isnt a spirochete?Also do you coil your head besides coiling the rest of your body?And how often should you coil for coinfections i know its stated every 5 to 7 days for lyme but how about bart,bab,erch?> > > Terry> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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