Guest guest Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Hi Greg, We are a family of 7 with Lyme and under treatment. Several of us have had reoccurring kidney pain, sometimes for long periods of time. We have now found that it is usually when we are dumping toxins and usually worse if we are busy/ out of home, because we don’t drink the same level of water needed to flush all of the toxins out of the body. We bought a water filter and now that the water no longer tastes of chlorine we all drink heaps more than we used to and this really helps. If I am really bad, I have DE and lemon juice in water, Biofilam, Barley grass (morlife) in orange juice and whatever I can take to detox quickly...But....water, water, water is the fastest thing to help me feel better. I am shortly going to try the bi carb to alkalinese my body and MSM, but as yet can’t say if they help this problem. Cheers From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of GregSent: Friday, 15 June 2012 5:32 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Prolonged Kidney Pain About three weeks ago I began full body coiling sessions for both Lyme(432 Hz) and Bartonella(832 Hz). I would place the coil at different parts of my body for 2 minutes each until I had covered my whole body. Previous to these whole body coiling sessions I was just doing the stomach and head and gradually built up the time. Anyways, two Saturdays ago I started feeling really lousy and thought this must be my first herx from the full body coiling. Shortly thereafter, maybe a day or too later, my kidneys (lower back area on both sides) got pretty sore. I started loading up on lemons to make lemon water and going to the sauna to detox. My kidneys are still sore to this day (about 11 days total). The actual herx symptoms other than the sore kidneys lasted about 5 days. Is it possible the coiling may have killed enough either Lyme of Bartonella bacteria to enable some other bug to infect my kidneys? Does anyone have any experience with such kidney issues and have some su ggestions for me?ThanksGreg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hi Greg , Sorry to hear your pain in the kidneys . My husband got this and it wa squite ocncerning as it was going with a reduce opening from the uretre tha twas ginving him a hydronephrosis . So each time it happen we are concerned . We dealed with this with a heavy protocol of ozone before and took him ou tof palliative medecine this way . Stilll he is fragil from his kidneys and we babaysit them each time they show up some stress . recently we tryed the parshley tea that was absoltutly effective . Dct Browenstein says that no kidney probleme or pain can resist from the parlsey tea and that in 3 week maximum it is solved . It is a bounch of parsley cooked in water for 30mn then drinkning this all day long . Dct Clarck says that the cristal of oxalate in coffee and tea and chocolate are drastic for the kidneys as it is as sharp as glass at a microscopic level . So she prohib to take any of the three culpid and she has a kidney cleanse tha tinslude the parshley tea but she adds a few other herbs . My hsuabnd also dropeed tea chocolat and coffee for thsi very reason . dct says that nto only it gives a contraction to the kindeys but this christals are a nest for pathogene especially one that they find most often in th eurinary tract th epoteous something ( sorry I say alla this by memory ) all this to telle you that fo rmy husband the suppression of the tthree as as welll as the parsley teat dit the job that took us 9 month of heavy work before . it may be worth a try . I agree with Jim . Concentrate of what detox owrks for you and if it is not sufficaint add colonics and colemas or aenemas they have never failed to help me and my husband even though tthey are not th emost confortable way to detox it is a saving procedure for me and occasionnaly fo rmy husband when he has a strong herx. Hoping you get out of this concenr soon Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 5:30 PMSubject: RE: Prolonged Kidney Pain Hi Greg, We are a family of 7 with Lyme and under treatment. Several of us have had reoccurring kidney pain, sometimes for long periods of time. We have now found that it is usually when we are dumping toxins and usually worse if we are busy/ out of home, because we don’t drink the same level of water needed to flush all of the toxins out of the body. We bought a water filter and now that the water no longer tastes of chlorine we all drink heaps more than we used to and this really helps. If I am really bad, I have DE and lemon juice in water, Biofilam, Barley grass (morlife) in orange juice and whatever I can take to detox quickly...But....water, water, water is the fastest thing to help me feel better. I am shortly going to try the bi carb to alkalinese my body and MSM, but as yet can’t say if they help this problem. Cheers From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of GregSent: Friday, 15 June 2012 5:32 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Prolonged Kidney Pain About three weeks ago I began full body coiling sessions for both Lyme(432 Hz) and Bartonella(832 Hz). I would place the coil at different parts of my body for 2 minutes each until I had covered my whole body. Previous to these whole body coiling sessions I was just doing the stomach and head and gradually built up the time. Anyways, two Saturdays ago I started feeling really lousy and thought this must be my first herx from the full body coiling. Shortly thereafter, maybe a day or too later, my kidneys (lower back area on both sides) got pretty sore. I started loading up on lemons to make lemon water and going to the sauna to detox. My kidneys are still sore to this day (about 11 days total). The actual herx symptoms other than the sore kidneys lasted about 5 days. Is it possible the coiling may have killed enough either Lyme of Bartonella bacteria to enable some other bug to infect my kidneys? Does anyone have any experience with such kidney issues and have some su ggestions for me?ThanksGreg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Yeah, I have a good sized mug of coffee in the morning and usually some more in the early afternoon. Trying to reduce or even eliminate my coffee intake seams to be the most obvious place to start. Easier said than done but worth a try. I'll have to look into the parsley tea idea. That sounds interesting. Jim was also suggesting Essiac tea.Thanks for the info.GregSubject: Re: Prolonged Kidney PainTo: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >Date: Thursday, June 14, 2012, 5:41 PM Hi Greg , Sorry to hear your pain in the kidneys . My husband got this and it wa squite ocncerning as it was going with a reduce opening from the uretre tha twas ginving him a hydronephrosis . So each time it happen we are concerned . We dealed with this with a heavy protocol of ozone before and took him ou tof palliative medecine this way . Stilll he is fragil from his kidneys and we babaysit them each time they show up some stress . recently we tryed the parshley tea that was absoltutly effective . Dct Browenstein says that no kidney probleme or pain can resist from the parlsey tea and that in 3 week maximum it is solved . It is a bounch of parsley cooked in water for 30mn then drinkning this all day long . Dct Clarck says that the cristal of oxalate in coffee and tea and chocolate are drastic for the kidneys as it is as sharp as glass at a microscopic level . So she prohib to take any of the three culpid and she has a kidney cleanse tha tinslude the parshley tea but she adds a few other herbs . My hsuabnd also dropeed tea chocolat and coffee for thsi very reason . dct says that nto only it gives a contraction to the kindeys but this christals are a nest for pathogene especially one that they find most often in th eurinary tract th epoteous something ( sorry I say alla this by memory ) all this to telle you that fo rmy husband the suppression of the tthree as as welll as the parsley teat dit the job that took us 9 month of heavy work before . it may be worth a try . I agree with Jim . Concentrate of what detox owrks for you and if it is not sufficaint add colonics and colemas or aenemas they have never failed to help me and my husband even though tthey are not th emost confortable way to detox it is a saving procedure for me and occasionnaly fo rmy husband when he has a strong herx. Hoping you get out of this concenr soon Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 5:30 PMSubject: RE: Prolonged Kidney Pain Hi Greg, We are a family of 7 with Lyme and under treatment. Several of us have had reoccurring kidney pain, sometimes for long periods of time. We have now found that it is usually when we are dumping toxins and usually worse if we are busy/ out of home, because we don’t drink the same level of water needed to flush all of the toxins out of the body. We bought a water filter and now that the water no longer tastes of chlorine we all drink heaps more than we used to and this really helps. If I am really bad, I have DE and lemon juice in water, Biofilam, Barley grass (morlife) in orange juice and whatever I can take to detox quickly...But....water, water, water is the fastest thing to help me feel better. I am shortly going to try the bi carb to alkalinese my body and MSM, but as yet can’t say if they help this problem. Cheers From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of GregSent: Friday, 15 June 2012 5:32 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Prolonged Kidney Pain About three weeks ago I began full body coiling sessions for both Lyme(432 Hz) and Bartonella(832 Hz). I would place the coil at different parts of my body for 2 minutes each until I had covered my whole body. Previous to these whole body coiling sessions I was just doing the stomach and head and gradually built up the time. Anyways, two Saturdays ago I started feeling really lousy and thought this must be my first herx from the full body coiling. Shortly thereafter, maybe a day or too later, my kidneys (lower back area on both sides) got pretty sore. I started loading up on lemons to make lemon water and going to the sauna to detox. My kidneys are still sore to this day (about 11 days total). The actual herx symptoms other than the sore kidneys lasted about 5 days. Is it possible the coiling may have killed enough either Lyme of Bartonella bacteria to enable some other bug to infect my kidneys? Does anyone have any experience with such kidney issues and have some su ggestions for me?ThanksGreg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Yes Greg , Essiac is wonderfull too we take it too. and the tast is good i tis for general detox not especially for the kidneys . Coffee chocolat and tea needs to be suppressed for good and right away . A trick to supress something we love and that helps us as coffee do; is to reimplace it instead of just supress it then the transition is smoothed and made possible more smotthly Essiac is wonderfull too we take it too .You may add the gensing tea to reimplace the coffee the tast is good , and gives a kick as ti regularise the blood sugar and blood pressure . If you do nto have the hight blood pressur eyou may try also as a reimplacememnt of the cofeee the licorice . it gives a good kick too but helps elevate the blood pressure a littl ebit Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:10 PMSubject: Re: Prolonged Kidney Pain Yeah, I have a good sized mug of coffee in the morning and usually some more in the early afternoon. Trying to reduce or even eliminate my coffee intake seams to be the most obvious place to start. Easier said than done but worth a try. I'll have to look into the parsley tea idea. That sounds interesting. Jim was also suggesting Essiac tea. Thanks for the info. Greg Subject: Re: Prolonged Kidney PainTo: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >Date: Thursday, June 14, 2012, 5:41 PM Hi Greg , Sorry to hear your pain in the kidneys . My husband got this and it wa squite ocncerning as it was going with a reduce opening from the uretre tha twas ginving him a hydronephrosis . So each time it happen we are concerned . We dealed with this with a heavy protocol of ozone before and took him ou tof palliative medecine this way . Stilll he is fragil from his kidneys and we babaysit them each time they show up some stress . recently we tryed the parshley tea that was absoltutly effective . Dct Browenstein says that no kidney probleme or pain can resist from the parlsey tea and that in 3 week maximum it is solved . It is a bounch of parsley cooked in water for 30mn then drinkning this all day long . Dct Clarck says that the cristal of oxalate in coffee and tea and chocolate are drastic for the kidneys as it is as sharp as glass at a microscopic level . So she prohib to take any of the three culpid and she has a kidney cleanse tha tinslude the parshley tea but she adds a few other herbs . My hsuabnd also dropeed tea chocolat and coffee for thsi very reason . dct says that nto only it gives a contraction to the kindeys but this christals are a nest for pathogene especially one that they find most often in th eurinary tract th epoteous something ( sorry I say alla this by memory ) all this to telle you that fo rmy husband the suppression of the tthree as as welll as the parsley teat dit the job that took us 9 month of heavy work before . it may be worth a try . I agree with Jim . Concentrate of what detox owrks for you and if it is not sufficaint add colonics and colemas or aenemas they have never failed to help me and my husband even though tthey are not th emost confortable way to detox it is a saving procedure for me and occasionnaly fo rmy husband when he has a strong herx. Hoping you get out of this concenr soon Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 5:30 PMSubject: RE: Prolonged Kidney Pain Hi Greg, We are a family of 7 with Lyme and under treatment. Several of us have had reoccurring kidney pain, sometimes for long periods of time. We have now found that it is usually when we are dumping toxins and usually worse if we are busy/ out of home, because we don’t drink the same level of water needed to flush all of the toxins out of the body. We bought a water filter and now that the water no longer tastes of chlorine we all drink heaps more than we used to and this really helps. If I am really bad, I have DE and lemon juice in water, Biofilam, Barley grass (morlife) in orange juice and whatever I can take to detox quickly...But....water, water, water is the fastest thing to help me feel better. I am shortly going to try the bi carb to alkalinese my body and MSM, but as yet can’t say if they help this problem. Cheers From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of GregSent: Friday, 15 June 2012 5:32 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Prolonged Kidney Pain About three weeks ago I began full body coiling sessions for both Lyme(432 Hz) and Bartonella(832 Hz). I would place the coil at different parts of my body for 2 minutes each until I had covered my whole body. Previous to these whole body coiling sessions I was just doing the stomach and head and gradually built up the time. Anyways, two Saturdays ago I started feeling really lousy and thought this must be my first herx from the full body coiling. Shortly thereafter, maybe a day or too later, my kidneys (lower back area on both sides) got pretty sore. I started loading up on lemons to make lemon water and going to the sauna to detox. My kidneys are still sore to this day (about 11 days total). The actual herx symptoms other than the sore kidneys lasted about 5 days. Is it possible the coiling may have killed enough either Lyme of Bartonella bacteria to enable some other bug to infect my kidneys? Does anyone have any experience with such kidney issues and have some su ggestions for me?ThanksGreg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I Marie, I have read a lot about licorice and have tried it once until I read it increases oestrogen dominance and not to have it if you have too much oestrogen??? Have you heard anything about this, because as Lymies alone plus the antibiotics a lot of us are prone to this. Cheers From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of Marie BenoitSent: Saturday, 16 June 2012 2:31 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Re: Prolonged Kidney Pain Yes Greg , Essiac is wonderfull too we take it too. and the tast is good i tis for general detox not especially for the kidneys . Coffee chocolat and tea needs to be suppressed for good and right away . A trick to supress something we love and that helps us as coffee do; is to reimplace it instead of just supress it then the transition is smoothed and made possible more smotthly Essiac is wonderfull too we take it too .You may add the gensing tea to reimplace the coffee the tast is good , and gives a kick as ti regularise the blood sugar and blood pressure . If you do nto have the hight blood pressur eyou may try also as a reimplacememnt of the cofeee the licorice . it gives a good kick too but helps elevate the blood pressure a littl ebit Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:10 PMSubject: Re: Prolonged Kidney Pain Yeah, I have a good sized mug of coffee in the morning and usually some more in the early afternoon. Trying to reduce or even eliminate my coffee intake seams to be the most obvious place to start. Easier said than done but worth a try. I'll have to look into the parsley tea idea. That sounds interesting. Jim was also suggesting Essiac tea.Thanks for the info. Greg Subject: Re: Prolonged Kidney PainTo: " Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >Date: Thursday, June 14, 2012, 5:41 PM Hi Greg ,Sorry to hear your pain in the kidneys . My husband got this and it wa squite ocncerning as it was going with a reduce opening from the uretre tha twas ginving him a hydronephrosis .So each time it happen we are concerned . We dealed with this with a heavy protocol of ozone before and took him ou tof palliative medecine this way . Stilll he is fragil from his kidneys and we babaysit them each time they show up some stress . recently we tryed the parshley tea that was absoltutly effective . Dct Browenstein says that no kidney probleme or pain can resist from the parlsey tea and that in 3 week maximum it is solved .It is a bounch of parsley cooked in water for 30mn then drinkning this all day long . Dct Clarck says that the cristal of oxalate in coffee and tea and chocolate are drastic for the kidneys as it is as sharp as glass at a microscopic level . So she prohib to take any of the three culpid and she has a kidney cleanse tha tinslude the parshley tea but she adds a few other herbs . My hsuabnd also dropeed tea chocolat and coffee for thsi very reason . dct says that nto only it gives a contraction to the kindeys but this christals are a nest for pathogene especially one that they find most often in th eurinary tract th epoteous something ( sorry I say alla this by memory ) all this to telle you that fo rmy husband the suppression of the tthree as as welll as the parsley teat dit the job that took us 9 month of heavy work before .it may be worth a try . I agree with Jim . Concentrate of what detox owrks for you and if it is not sufficaint add colonics and colemas or aenemas they have never failed to help me and my husband even though tthey are not th emost confortable way to detox it is a saving procedure for me and occasionnaly fo rmy husband when he has a strong herx. Hoping you get out of this concenr soon Kindly MarieTo: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 5:30 PMSubject: RE: Prolonged Kidney Pain Hi Greg, We are a family of 7 with Lyme and under treatment. Several of us have had reoccurring kidney pain, sometimes for long periods of time. We have now found that it is usually when we are dumping toxins and usually worse if we are busy/ out of home, because we don’t drink the same level of water needed to flush all of the toxins out of the body. We bought a water filter and now that the water no longer tastes of chlorine we all drink heaps more than we used to and this really helps. If I am really bad, I have DE and lemon juice in water, Biofilam, Barley grass (morlife) in orange juice and whatever I can take to detox quickly...But....water, water, water is the fastest thing to help me feel better. I am shortly going to try the bi carb to alkalinese my body and MSM, but as yet can’t say if they help this problem. Cheers From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of GregSent: Friday, 15 June 2012 5:32 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Prolonged Kidney Pain About three weeks ago I began full body coiling sessions for both Lyme(432 Hz) and Bartonella(832 Hz). I would place the coil at different parts of my body for 2 minutes each until I had covered my whole body. Previous to these whole body coiling sessions I was just doing the stomach and head and gradually built up the time. Anyways, two Saturdays ago I started feeling really lousy and thought this must be my first herx from the full body coiling. Shortly thereafter, maybe a day or too later, my kidneys (lower back area on both sides) got pretty sore. I started loading up on lemons to make lemon water and going to the sauna to detox. My kidneys are still sore to this day (about 11 days total). The actual herx symptoms other than the sore kidneys lasted about 5 days. Is it possible the coiling may have killed enough either Lyme of Bartonella bacteria to enable some other bug to infect my kidneys? Does anyone have any experience with such kidney issues and have some su ggestions for me?ThanksGreg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Dear , thank you for the warning . I had no idea about this . I do not go too deep into understanding why and what . I became lazy over the years thourght all the reading lazy and bored I go straight to th epoint do I get better or not . I feel that it makes me feels good it is enought for me .I have hypoglycemai and hypotension it setr me back to confort zone . If something happen then due to too much eostrogen , I do not care one thing at a time . Hopefully by thi stime I will nto need ti anymore and will be back to helath hopefully . Thank you very much Jan for your insight thought and caring . Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 5:42 PMSubject: RE: Prolonged Kidney Pain I Marie, I have read a lot about licorice and have tried it once until I read it increases oestrogen dominance and not to have it if you have too much oestrogen??? Have you heard anything about this, because as Lymies alone plus the antibiotics a lot of us are prone to this. Cheers From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of Marie BenoitSent: Saturday, 16 June 2012 2:31 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Re: Prolonged Kidney Pain Yes Greg , Essiac is wonderfull too we take it too. and the tast is good i tis for general detox not especially for the kidneys . Coffee chocolat and tea needs to be suppressed for good and right away . A trick to supress something we love and that helps us as coffee do; is to reimplace it instead of just supress it then the transition is smoothed and made possible more smotthly Essiac is wonderfull too we take it too .You may add the gensing tea to reimplace the coffee the tast is good , and gives a kick as ti regularise the blood sugar and blood pressure . If you do nto have the hight blood pressur eyou may try also as a reimplacememnt of the cofeee the licorice . it gives a good kick too but helps elevate the blood pressure a littl ebit Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:10 PMSubject: Re: Prolonged Kidney Pain Yeah, I have a good sized mug of coffee in the morning and usually some more in the early afternoon. Trying to reduce or even eliminate my coffee intake seams to be the most obvious place to start. Easier said than done but worth a try. I'll have to look into the parsley tea idea. That sounds interesting. Jim was also suggesting Essiac tea. Thanks for the info. Greg Subject: Re: Prolonged Kidney PainTo: "Lyme_and_Rife " <Lyme_and_Rife >Date: Thursday, June 14, 2012, 5:41 PM Hi Greg , Sorry to hear your pain in the kidneys . My husband got this and it wa squite ocncerning as it was going with a reduce opening from the uretre tha twas ginving him a hydronephrosis . So each time it happen we are concerned . We dealed with this with a heavy protocol of ozone before and took him ou tof palliative medecine this way . Stilll he is fragil from his kidneys and we babaysit them each time they show up some stress . recently we tryed the parshley tea that was absoltutly effective . Dct Browenstein says that no kidney probleme or pain can resist from the parlsey tea and that in 3 week maximum it is solved . It is a bounch of parsley cooked in water for 30mn then drinkning this all day long . Dct Clarck says that the cristal of oxalate in coffee and tea and chocolate are drastic for the kidneys as it is as sharp as glass at a microscopic level . So she prohib to take any of the three culpid and she has a kidney cleanse tha tinslude the parshley tea but she adds a few other herbs . My hsuabnd also dropeed tea chocolat and coffee for thsi very reason . dct says that nto only it gives a contraction to the kindeys but this christals are a nest for pathogene especially one that they find most often in th eurinary tract th epoteous something ( sorry I say alla this by memory ) all this to telle you that fo rmy husband the suppression of the tthree as as welll as the parsley teat dit the job that took us 9 month of heavy work before . it may be worth a try . I agree with Jim . Concentrate of what detox owrks for you and if it is not sufficaint add colonics and colemas or aenemas they have never failed to help me and my husband even though tthey are not th emost confortable way to detox it is a saving procedure for me and occasionnaly fo rmy husband when he has a strong herx. Hoping you get out of this concenr soon Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 5:30 PMSubject: RE: Prolonged Kidney Pain Hi Greg, We are a family of 7 with Lyme and under treatment. Several of us have had reoccurring kidney pain, sometimes for long periods of time. We have now found that it is usually when we are dumping toxins and usually worse if we are busy/ out of home, because we don’t drink the same level of water needed to flush all of the toxins out of the body. We bought a water filter and now that the water no longer tastes of chlorine we all drink heaps more than we used to and this really helps. If I am really bad, I have DE and lemon juice in water, Biofilam, Barley grass (morlife) in orange juice and whatever I can take to detox quickly...But....water, water, water is the fastest thing to help me feel better. I am shortly going to try the bi carb to alkalinese my body and MSM, but as yet can’t say if they help this problem. Cheers From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of GregSent: Friday, 15 June 2012 5:32 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Prolonged Kidney Pain About three weeks ago I began full body coiling sessions for both Lyme(432 Hz) and Bartonella(832 Hz). I would place the coil at different parts of my body for 2 minutes each until I had covered my whole body. Previous to these whole body coiling sessions I was just doing the stomach and head and gradually built up the time. Anyways, two Saturdays ago I started feeling really lousy and thought this must be my first herx from the full body coiling. Shortly thereafter, maybe a day or too later, my kidneys (lower back area on both sides) got pretty sore. I started loading up on lemons to make lemon water and going to the sauna to detox. My kidneys are still sore to this day (about 11 days total). The actual herx symptoms other than the sore kidneys lasted about 5 days. Is it possible the coiling may have killed enough either Lyme of Bartonella bacteria to enable some other bug to infect my kidneys? Does anyone have any experience with such kidney issues and have some su ggestions for me?ThanksGreg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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