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Hi Amy, I avoid Soy altogether for the reasons you bring up. I suppose I do

consume trace amounts but I don't buy any soy products intentionally. Just as

you, I don't take any chances :)<br>Bev

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Oh my! I just keep findin out more and more and

ive only been here 30 minutes! I am a vegetarian so I

use a lot of soy products. I thought i may have

inherited Hypo from my grandma because after i was

diagnosed she told me she has it as well as one of my

aunts....and now...i don't know....maybe it was the soy? I

have no desire to eat meat again, and i dont know if i

can give up the soy products i have become accustomed

too!Yikes...guess i have a lot to think about. Does anyone have any

alternative advice??? Also...i was curious to know if there

is any way of pinpointing around when i " got " this

Hypothyroidism? Silly question i know :)<br><br>Jax

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I found out I was hypo a year ago and we have no

clue when it started or why.<br>I have had soy twice

in my entire life that I know of so I'm sure that it

wasn't that.<br>Nobody else in my family has hypo that

we know of.<br><br>Dr. said it was impossible to

know when and why.<br><br>Is Jax really your

name?<br><br>Janine

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Being a vegetarian and hypothyroid could cause

some problems, especially since protein is usually an

essential for us hypo people...Is there any particular

reason you are vegetarian? religious reasons?

Environmental purposes? Dietary problems?<br><br>As for

hypothyroidism being inherited, yes, it does run in families. My

Uncle Bill is hypo, my granddad was, I was born

hypothyroid, and my mom was just diagnosed about a year or so

ago. <br><br>Those with hypothyroidism DO tend to be

depressed more often, and I've experienced this quite a bit

in the past few years...so if you need to talk, all

you need to do is IM me...<br><br>Blessed Be,<br>

:-)

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Actually, they used to use fluoride to treat hyperthyroidism in years past.

As for soy, it probably has a lot to do with money... you can't patent soy

because it's a natural product, so the drug companies aren't going to make

any profit off of it. They'd have to come up with some unique molecule that

they could patent... so then you'd be dealing with enfood-genetically

modified stuff they could patent.

Besides, soy has such a HUGE market from purportedly being a health food, it

would undoubtedly cost the industry a tremendous amount of sales from folks

with normal thyroid function, if they ever realize it could be bad for them.

But you might be onto something for folks with hyperthyroidism -- maybe they

SHOULD eat a lot of soy! :)

soy?

> If soy does what everybody is claiming it to do with our thyroids then

> why don't doctors give soy for a prescription for hyperthroidism?

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Bev wrote:

> If soy does what everybody is claiming it to do with our thyroids then

> why don't doctors give soy for a prescription for hyperthroidism?

Because they have things with a more controlled response. At one time

they DID use fluoride for hyperT, at about the same dose that is allowed

in drinking water.

Chuck

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I ask my dentist last year if fluoride had any impact on the thyroid and he said

not that he had ever heard of,now I have read differently , so I'm just

wondering if he really didn't know or what.. I just don't know about doctors

sometime at all.

Bev

Chuck B <cblatchl@...> wrote:

Bev wrote:

> If soy does what everybody is claiming it to do with our thyroids then

> why don't doctors give soy for a prescription for hyperthroidism?

Because they have things with a more controlled response. At one time

they DID use fluoride for hyperT, at about the same dose that is allowed

in drinking water.

Chuck

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Do you have to ask? :)

--- Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote:

> If soy does what everybody is claiming it to do with

> our thyroids then

> why don't doctors give soy for a prescription for

> hyperthroidism?

> Bev

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If he admits it, he's probably known for a while and a

liability is created. He's probably playing dumb or he

may be ignorant in the topic. Either way, I wouldn't

go to him.

--- bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote:

> I ask my dentist last year if fluoride had any

> impact on the thyroid and he said not that he had

> ever heard of,now I have read differently , so I'm

> just wondering if he really didn't know or what.. I

> just don't know about doctors sometime at all.

> Bev

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> Chuck B <cblatchl@...> wrote:

> Bev wrote:

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> > If soy does what everybody is claiming it to do

> with our thyroids then

> > why don't doctors give soy for a prescription for

> hyperthroidism?

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> Because they have things with a more controlled

> response. At one time

> they DID use fluoride for hyperT, at about the same

> dose that is allowed

> in drinking water.

>

> Chuck

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We just got going on the NIDs diet after our first appt with dr. G

this week My 4yo son seems happier and has had a good week after being

off all the supplements he had been on and having a less restricted

diet ( we were gfcfsf plus low oxalate and feingold). Dr G's office

told us soy and goat milk were ok so we have been using a bit of goat

cheese and soy milk as a sub for rice milk and let him have edamame.

For those of you who are not doing soy, is that because dr g told you

to limit it after testing or because of other concerns about soy

protein? My son seems to tolerate it although yesterday he had the

runs, which has not been a problem in the past, (but so did his

babysitter), so not sure if soy is a problem.

One other thing. We gave him a banana as his one of two fruits, and he

got super hyper, giggly, and wanted to spin. I assume this means I

should just go back to avoiding them?

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Though I don't have an answer for you, I just wanted to say that reading your

post made me happy! My son hasn't seen dr g yet, but I can't wait to get him off

the 43 supplements a day plus chelation!!

Good luck to you and your children

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On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Rebeca Robboy <rmrobboy@...> wrote:

> We just got going on the NIDs diet after our first appt with dr. G

> this week My 4yo son seems happier and has had a good week after being

> off all the supplements he had been on and having a less restricted

> diet ( we were gfcfsf plus low oxalate and feingold). Dr G's office

> told us soy and goat milk were ok so we have been using a bit of goat

> cheese and soy milk as a sub for rice milk and let him have edamame.

> For those of you who are not doing soy, is that because dr g told you

> to limit it after testing or because of other concerns about soy

> protein? My son seems to tolerate it although yesterday he had the

> runs, which has not been a problem in the past, (but so did his

> babysitter), so not sure if soy is a problem.

>

> One other thing. We gave him a banana as his one of two fruits, and he

> got super hyper, giggly, and wanted to spin. I assume this means I

> should just go back to avoiding them?

>

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If your kid doesn't react to soy, that's wonderful - you're blessed with a lot

more options for substitution.

But the word soy makes me shudder.  Soy lecithen is my son's worst problem, but

it takes weeks to build up and cause problems, and then that's gradual too, so

by the time I realize that there's a big problem, I've long forgotten that he

started a new food that went bad.

The only time I would recommend stopping soy for are for symptoms

of aggression,

rage, suicidal depression, and oppositional behavior (like constant, extreme,

not just the occasional bad day/week).  If you go for months without

experiencing constant irritability and opposition (and always aggression), then

you probably don't have a problem with it.  But you just don't usually see an

immediate reaction to it.  I wouldn't not use it just because you worry it

could

happen.

I have one kid who becomes a self-loathing monster on it (and he can even have

it once in a whie, just not every day or several times a week), and another kid

who has no problems with it at all (that I can tell). 

(Allergy meds like Zyrtec and Allegra do that too, though, in our family, but

again, not immediately but rather 2-3 months down the road when you no longer

have reason to suspect it, so it takes a few more months to figure out what the

heck is wrong.) 

HTH

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From: Rebeca Robboy <rmrobboy@...>

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Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 9:19:47 AM

Subject: Soy?

 

We just got going on the NIDs diet after our first appt with dr. G

this week My 4yo son seems happier and has had a good week after being

off all the supplements he had been on and having a less restricted

diet ( we were gfcfsf plus low oxalate and feingold). Dr G's office

told us soy and goat milk were ok so we have been using a bit of goat

cheese and soy milk as a sub for rice milk and let him have edamame.

For those of you who are not doing soy, is that because dr g told you

to limit it after testing or because of other concerns about soy

protein? My son seems to tolerate it although yesterday he had the

runs, which has not been a problem in the past, (but so did his

babysitter), so not sure if soy is a problem.

One other thing. We gave him a banana as his one of two fruits, and he

got super hyper, giggly, and wanted to spin. I assume this means I

should just go back to avoiding them?

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If your not sure about something... I usually take it out for a couple weeks or

more, and then add it back in and watch for a reaction. we were letting our son

have dark (dairy free) chocolate... but he was still having dark circles under

eyes and was testing high in allergens)... we took chocolate out for a while,

along with a few other things... when we let him have some for valentines day...

he had the same kind of poops he used to have (and had an accident which he

hadn't been having since we removed a few things) Tells me he probably has a

problem with chocolate. (we've removed it for the time being, maybe will test it

again some day)

I think soy might be a bigger problem at our house than some other things (his

allergy panel came back showing moderate reaction to soy, and I've been sort of

suspecting it) (I wonder if others have been running into this)...

unfortunately it is in so many things... It looks like goats milk/cheese might

be our only option, hopefully that turns out ok. We don't actually do any milk

or cheese right now, but it would be nice down the road to have some options.

If banana seems to be a trigger, try removing it for a few weeks (just don't

have any in the house) then put them back in and watch, if it keeps happening, I

would remove them.

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And don't forget cheeses made from sheep's milk.  That can make some decent

replacements for mozarella & parmesan thank goodness.

( has a very special hatred for soy!)

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From: Pedersen <mpedestrian@...>

Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 1:22:03 AM

Subject: Re: Soy?

 

If your not sure about something... I usually take it out for a couple weeks or

more, and then add it back in and watch for a reaction. we were letting our son

have dark (dairy free) chocolate... but he was still having dark circles under

eyes and was testing high in allergens)... we took chocolate out for a while,

along with a few other things... when we let him have some for valentines day...

he had the same kind of poops he used to have (and had an accident which he

hadn't been having since we removed a few things) Tells me he probably has a

problem with chocolate. (we've removed it for the time being, maybe will test it

again some day)

I think soy might be a bigger problem at our house than some other things (his

allergy panel came back showing moderate reaction to soy, and I've been sort of

suspecting it) (I wonder if others have been running into this)... unfortunately

it is in so many things... It looks like goats milk/cheese might be our only

option, hopefully that turns out ok. We don't actually do any milk or cheese

right now, but it would be nice down the road to have some options.

If banana seems to be a trigger, try removing it for a few weeks (just don't

have any in the house) then put them back in and watch, if it keeps happening, I

would remove them.

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