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I hope you are using one of the recommended doctors from our list on

. We have some horror stories from women who have gone elsewhere.

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,You're doing fine . .. If you'll add your reply to the top of the page, it will be easier to read . . . But that doesn't matter, we can see it anyway.Yes, please tell us your story! Denver may be the closest to you . . . Dr. Huang. . . Someone may have another recommendation though.I should be in Mesa in January. Maybe we can meet.Hugs,Rogene Re: New Member

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Carla Curry <noogurl@...> wrote: Hello. I'm carla. I was

diagnosed with R.A. in 2002. I have had

numerous doctor visits and medications and nothing works for the pain.

I would love something just to take the edge off sometimes. Right now

is good. Not much pain. I am a 43yr old mother of four. I need

somewhere I can chat, whine and vent with someone who understands. I

also have degenerative disc disease and I work as a waitress. Go

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Welcome, Jim! Are you in the LA area?

Can you tell me about being a native natural hygienist?

Thanks,

Pamela

Igo <jimi761@...> wrote: Thankyou for

allowing me to join. I am a native natural hygienist since 1971 here is

southern California, who looks forward to interacting with NN.

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Yes, & I do lectures @ rawfood potlucks about native natural hygiene. Born in

Santa , as were my grandfather's grandfathers then known as Kuruvungna in

our Tongna language means, living in the sun. I am tri-tribal by blood, Tongva

& Ajachamen & Kumeyaay. Where are you people native from? What would you like

to know about natural hygiene from a native perspective?

Thanks for the welcoming, Jim

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Welcome, Jim! Are you in the LA area?

Can you tell me about being a native natural hygienist?

Thanks,

Pamela

Igo <jimi761@...> wrote: Thankyou for allowing me to join. I am a

native natural hygienist since 1971 here is southern California, who looks

forward to interacting with NN.

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Native to where?

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The indigenous tribes of southern California, Kumeyaay-Ajachamen-Tongva, the

place of my birth & the birth of my grandfather's grandfathers.

Coastal southern Calif includes cities like LA, San Diego, & orange county

areas.

Would like to hear the cultural affinities of others, & ask the same question

NATIVE TO WHERE, as it does not always show up in bios, etc.

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Belinda

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My people are from Ireland.

I'd like to know anything you'd like to share about natural hygiene from a

native perspective.

Pamela

Igo <jimi761@...> wrote: Yes, & I do

lectures @ rawfood potlucks about native natural hygiene. Born in Santa ,

as were my grandfather's grandfathers then known as Kuruvungna in our Tongna

language means, living in the sun. I am tri-tribal by blood, Tongva & Ajachamen

& Kumeyaay. Where are you people native from? What would you like to know

about natural hygiene from a native perspective?

Thanks for the welcoming, Jim

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Cannot speak for Ireland directly simply because I am not from there & have no

voice for that part of the world & their traditions.

Natural Hygiene clearly relates to all indigenous cultures anywhere in the

world. NH needs spokes persons from every indigenous footprint across the globe

as it relates to native nutrition, tradition, culture, language,

customs....before the age old wisdom's are lost forever & or become difficult to

re-kindle. All I can mention is my own personal experience. Once I met a guy

from Ireland who is a musician, he gave me a complementary copy of his CD. One

of his songs spoke of certain American Indian tribes contributing to the aide of

Ireland in the 1800's @ a time when American Indian peoples were suffering great

loses yet still able to give to Ireland during the Irish potato famine. This

musician, whose name I can not recall right off, spoke out how thankful he was

of the American Indian for showing support to Ireland during that time.

Best Always, Jim

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My people are from Ireland.

I'd like to know anything you'd like to share about natural hygiene from a

native perspective.

Pamela

Igo <jimi761@...> wrote: Yes, & I do lectures @ rawfood potlucks

about native natural hygiene. Born in Santa , as were my grandfather's

grandfathers then known as Kuruvungna in our Tongna language means, living in

the sun. I am tri-tribal by blood, Tongva & Ajachamen & Kumeyaay. Where are you

people native from? What would you like to know about natural hygiene from a

native perspective?

Thanks for the welcoming, Jim

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Hmmm I'm native to Brooklyn, NY but both my parents were born and

raised in Finland. I spent 10 of my adult years there working and

learning all sorts of interesting things.

Belinda

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> since 1971 here is southern California, who looks forward to

> interacting with NN.

> > Best Always, Jim

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I’m an American mutt. Unknown quantities of English, Irish, ish,

German, Norse (my maiden name!) and my grandfather was supposedly ¼

American Indian but we can’t trace it back officially. Something about our

relative skipping out on the census that was done. Both sides of my family

are very very unhealthy and that side is pretty much over 55.. gone.

Grew up on ketchup & wonder bread sandwiches and as adults they love their

hostess cup cakes, frito chili pie with “American cheese” and margarine.

As much as I’d LOVE to explore that I wouldn’t even know where to start.

The side of my family I can trace back goes pretty far but it’s still a mix

of things though mostly European I suppose. =)

So, unable to do that I try to judge my body by how it is now and what is

making it unhealthy. I have to limit my carbohydrates or my blood sugar

goes crazy and the insulin resistance gets worse.

It is great to see you are keeping the traditions alive. So many are lost

to us and it is weird to feel disembodied from my culture.

Dawn

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Hmmm I'm native to Brooklyn, NY but both my parents were born and

raised in Finland. I spent 10 of my adult years there working and

learning all sorts of interesting things.

Belinda

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Hi Lilly!

Welcome to the group! You have come to a very supportive, caring place filled

with wonderful supportive people. There is always an understanding shoulder

here! Always advice to be shared, questions answered, vents to be heard. We

also are kept updated by recent medical advances and studies!

You sound exactly like I sounded! About feeling like you were missing out on

your youth, and that you are the only one in your family to have this illness!

That used to be my mantra! I was diagnosed with CFS at the age of 19 while in

college. I didn't quite buy into the diagnosis because it felt surely as if I

was dying. I did a special diet my doctor put me on and that seemed to put it

into remission a couple of years later. At the age of 28, I came down with all

of these really odd symptoms. I was in such pain, and couldn't feel one side of

my body. I was bedbound. Finally, at the age of 30 they diagnosed Fibromyalgia

and myofascia pain syndrome. Then 2 years later, it was the inflammatory

arthritis that hit. It began in the knees. Bilateral patellar femoral syndrome

was diagnosed. I was sent to sports med and ortho docs who both also ruled it

was inflammatory and not mechanical. Except for elevated CRP, Sed, Westegren,

and the anti ccp, my labs, ANA and RF are

normal. It took a couple of years for them to decide it was inflammatory

arthritis and the pains began to spread. So I was started on Plaquenil, then 9

or 10 months ago Sulfasalazine. I've had to stop this med for 3 months due to

bronchitis and again now for an upper respiratory infection. I've been off it

so much its hard to tell what it does at times.

It's really hard when one feels like they are missing out on their youth. For

the longest time, I had no support system. My family supported me but it was

really hard for anyone to get. All of the people I talked with that had my

illness were several years older. They had much wisdom to offer me and I made

great friendships. The area that I struggled with was these people had lived

full lives, had their children, married, and had retired from their career

early, but had been able to work at it for several years. I was disabled by the

age of 30 (I am now 36). I hadn't been through what they had. Most of them had

long happy marriages before their health went bad. They didn't have to worry

about trying to date while chronically ill. I felt so alone and isolated. I

vented, I journaled, I learned to create a new life around the illness (well

still trying to atleast). Through it all, I have had hope though, that tomorrow

will be better than today. That each day

medical advances are being made. That each day the pain will be felt a little

less!

lillynn99 <lillynn99@...> wrote: Hello all...

I'm a new member seeking some kind of support mainly

mentally with my illness. I've been diagnosed with rheumatoid

arthritis since the age of 21. I am now 26 and have now just recently

been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. It's been rather difficult to live a

normal life these passed couple of years. I feel like I've been robbed

of my youth. So many limitations I must now face... I was in denial at

first thinking that I was misdiagnosed... then reality hit and yeah...

I had to accept the fact that I do have a chronic illness. It's been

hard to cope and I feel like no one in my family quite understands what

I'm going through. Especially me being the only one with this

illness. Yes... lucky me huh? No one else in my family has this

illness. It's gotten so bad that I've been on and off of prednisone...

so being a once thin individual I've packed on about 40lbs... and I'm

sick and tired of the insults and criticism from my family and

friends... Okay... enough complaining... Such is life...

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Wow... and I thought I had it bad! Oh my goodness I am sooo sorry to

hear that it happened to you at even a younger age. It seems like

with this illness it's followed by other illnesses... I guess that's

what happens when your immune system is working against you. Your

message was so touching. It's nice to know that there's someone out

there that can relate to how I'm feeling. I've lost friends over

this. Not too long ago my best friend of 12 yrs told me she wanted to

end our friendship because she didn't feel like I made enough of an

effort to hang out with her. Her exact words were... " I'm sorry you

have a chronic illness but using your sickness as an excuse to not

hang out with me is getting old " . It was like a dagger to the

heart. Like I get to choose whether or not I get my flares. I have

my good days and my bad days. So... I've been pretty depressed.

Seeing a psychologist on a regular basis though because I actually

did become suicidal. Like yourself I too dreamnt of living a normal

life, having a family. I was married and was pregnant but due to all

the medications I couldn't have that baby. I had a miscarriage at 4

months and that led to the downfall of my marriage. Although it was

4yrs ago it seems like yesterday that I lost my child. I had the

contractions and everything. I was rushed to the hospital in and out

of conscience. All I remembered was seeing sooo much blood. All 3

nurses, their glove covered hands were drenched with my blood... it

was everywhere,even on the floor. I was crushed. A part of me died

that day. And then I just wanted to die along with my baby... It

has been very hard to cope at times.

My psychologist is encouraging me to reach out to those who have the

same illness as me. I've been in isolation not wanting to talk about

my problems in fear of being viewed as... " different " . Don't feel

like I fit in with society. But I'm glad you understand... I just

need to keep in mind I'm not alone. I am sooo sorry that you had to

go through so much suffering for so long... yet I admire your

attitude toward it all. Looking forward toward a better day with

less pain. I am working on getting to that point. Every night I go

to sleep in fear of waking up paralyzed... I was once an independent

person, worked two jobs, had my own house, my own car didn't need

anyone. Now I've lost it all... everything...

Hello

all... I'm a new member seeking some kind of support mainly

> mentally with my illness. I've been diagnosed with rheumatoid

> arthritis since the age of 21. I am now 26 and have now just

recently

> been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. It's been rather difficult to

live a

> normal life these passed couple of years. I feel like I've been

robbed

> of my youth. So many limitations I must now face... I was in

denial at

> first thinking that I was misdiagnosed... then reality hit and

yeah...

> I had to accept the fact that I do have a chronic illness. It's

been

> hard to cope and I feel like no one in my family quite understands

what

> I'm going through. Especially me being the only one with this

> illness. Yes... lucky me huh? No one else in my family has this

> illness. It's gotten so bad that I've been on and off of

prednisone...

> so being a once thin individual I've packed on about 40lbs... and

I'm

> sick and tired of the insults and criticism from my family and

> friends... Okay... enough complaining... Such is life...

>

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Welcome. There's a great bunch of people here. You'll & Dr to put

in an appeal for Enbrel. It needs to be proved by the Dr that

current meds are not sufficient.

--- In , " ksanders58 " <ksanders58@...>

wrote:

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> i am a 38 year old female who was diagnosed with ra two years ago.

it

> came on suddenly in my knees and muscles. i began to have pain in

my

> feet and then wrists. it eventually led to the loss of my job,

> although, due to the fact i worked for a physician he was

sympathetic

> but i was just missing way too much work. i have been on

methotrexate

> from the onset and have gone through plaquenil and sulfazine. my

> insurance wouldn't cover enbrel or orencia. i also had my

> rheumatologist relocate to a different state. the one i saw for the

> first time two weeks ago was only concerned with my pain

medication, so

> now i am traveling 2 hours to continue to see my original doc.i

also

> have fibromyalgia and severe depression. i am hoping to find others

in

> my shape with hope possibly and understanding of what i face on a

daily

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Welcome Miriam. Did you choose goat milk b/c she had problems with cow

milk? I am just curious.

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> Hello Everyone,

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> It is a pleasure to join the group. I am located in Wisconsin, but I

> am originally from Brazil. My family and I are always looking for

> better health nutrition and good information. Our almost 3 yo daughter

> is severely allergic to few foods and has been drinking raw goat milk

> since she was about 9mo.

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> I will post more as time allows. Be well

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> Miriam

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I think Enbrel is great. I started on it about a year ago. I

noticed it started working in 3 weeks. Today I have more energy &

can walk 1.5 miles before I'm tired. A year ago I could only take 8

inch steps and walk 20 feet. So it's done a fantastic job getting me

to a much better place.

>

> Hi,

> My name is . I am 44 years old and I have JRA.. was diagnosed

> at 12 years old.

>

> Up until 6 months ago I have managed with NSAIDs. To be honest, I

> don't know a day without pain, but it's also a blessing... if I had

> late onset RA I don't know if I could cope.

> I have had many surgeries.. from wrist, knuckle replacement to

lower

> jaw surgery. I am lucky in that I have had little to no

inflammation

> and stiffness. What little of that I had usually disapates in 30

> minutes or so after I start moving in the mornings. Until recently.

> Now I have pain and stiffness, some days more than others (when

> before it was usually a " mechanical " problem.. can't open bottles

and

> doors, button my clothes, etc.) Periodically I have major swelling

in

> one or both knees and stiffness which is new. My hands hurt even

> though I am not doing anything.

> I started receiving social security 5 years ago, I was a floral

> designer (on my feet all day, sometimes 16 hours, working with my

> hands)for 24 years. I think ceasing to work with my hands as much

may

> contribute to the pain I am feeling now, but I also know I can no

> longer work. I draw and paint and excercise my hands when I can.

>

> I started seeing a new rheumatologist two years ago, and at my

first

> appointment, looking at my records, He asked why I am not on

Enbrel.

> I was afraid of the side effects, and still am.

>

> Recently one day I woke up and decided to stop treating the

symptoms

> and try to keep the RA from worsening.

>

> So, I am at the point to try Enbrel. My doctor is very much for it,

> and he explained the TB, infections,site reaction, which he has had

> experience in dealing with his patients on Enbrel.

>

> I would like to hear from Enbrel patients, what their experiences

> have been, and what they have learned about the more serious and

> possibly fatal side effects that may occur.

>

> I have a history of kidney stones and a couple of abnormal pap

smears

> (one with precancerous cells, but have been treated, and have

tested

> negative for cervical cancer). If starting Enbrel, will these

> conditions worsen (cancer, kidney disease)?

>

> What lab work do I need to expect and how often?

>

> Is there anything I can take to help lessen the risk of infections?

>

> I am still afraid of Enbrel, but now I think I am more afraid of

the

> RA worsening and leaving me debilitated.

>

> Forgive me for being long winded, this a new and frightening

> experience for me.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

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Hi and welcome!  Certainly starting a new medication can be scary.  It's

normal to worry about the side effects.  Enbrel is the oldest anti-TNF and

although side effects can be serious, they are very, very, rare.  Also most of

them are thought to go away if you stop the drug, so trying Enbrel can really be

worth it.  It was actually the first drug that my rheumatologist put me on,

along with Celebrex and prednisone.  Once you have the TB test and a chest

x-ray, you're cleared to start it.  It started working within a week and I loved

how I had more energy and just felt so much better.  I'm nearly ready to have my

2nd child and I've stayed on Enbrel and low dose predisone throughout, so I was

comfortable deciding it was safe for me and also reasonably safe for the baby. 

Since Enbrel lowers TNF which is involved in the immune response, we have to be

careful of infection.  Your questions about risks of recurrence with kidney

stones and

cervical changes are good ones to ask your doc.  I'm not an MD, but I wouldn't

imagine the immune response is involved in kidney stones.  Cervical changes can

be related to HPV, but most strains of HPV (except some of the mean ones that

are linked to cancer) cause an abnormal pap once or twice, and then retreat as

your immune system pushes them back.  I had an abnormal pap in 2000, and never

again since.  They goofed the HPV test, so I don't know if that was involved. 

Like any drug, you want to stay in close contact with your internist and your

rheumatologist while you take it.  When I've been sick I hold the Enbrel so my

body can fight off the bug.  My rheum is also quick to give me antibiotics as

needed so nothing gets a foothold.  I work in a medical setting every day and

even then, I don't get sick that much, even with a preschooler bringing home

tons of crud!  As for site reactions, I didn't have one for the first 4-6 weeks,

then I got a

big, hot, hive.  I started taking Tagamet in the morning of shot day, and then

a benadryl at night.  After about 6 mos the hive was hardly noticeable.  Now

it's just a red spot that lasts maybe a day or so.  Re: labs, I just get the

usual rheumatology labs every 3-6 mos of ESR, CRP, RF, CBC etc.  For what it's

worth, I pray that Enbrel keeps working for me b/c I feel it's given me my life

back.  I hope if you try it, you get the same great response.

Welcome again and feel better!

Kate F

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Hi,

My name is . I am 44 years old and I have JRA.. was diagnosed

at 12 years old.

Up until 6 months ago I have managed with NSAIDs. To be honest, I

don't know a day without pain, but it's also a blessing... if I had

late onset RA I don't know if I could cope.

I have had many surgeries.. from wrist, knuckle replacement to lower

jaw surgery. I am lucky in that I have had little to no inflammation

and stiffness. What little of that I had usually disapates in 30

minutes or so after I start moving in the mornings. Until recently.

Now I have pain and stiffness, some days more than others (when

before it was usually a " mechanical " problem.. can't open bottles and

doors, button my clothes, etc.) Periodically I have major swelling in

one or both knees and stiffness which is new. My hands hurt even

though I am not doing anything.

I started receiving social security 5 years ago, I was a floral

designer (on my feet all day, sometimes 16 hours, working with my

hands)for 24 years. I think ceasing to work with my hands as much may

contribute to the pain I am feeling now, but I also know I can no

longer work. I draw and paint and excercise my hands when I can.

I started seeing a new rheumatologist two years ago, and at my first

appointment, looking at my records, He asked why I am not on Enbrel.

I was afraid of the side effects, and still am.

Recently one day I woke up and decided to stop treating the symptoms

and try to keep the RA from worsening.

So, I am at the point to try Enbrel. My doctor is very much for it,

and he explained the TB, infections,site reaction, which he has had

experience in dealing with his patients on Enbrel.

I would like to hear from Enbrel patients, what their experiences

have been, and what they have learned about the more serious and

possibly fatal side effects that may occur.

I have a history of kidney stones and a couple of abnormal pap smears

(one with precancerous cells, but have been treated, and have tested

negative for cervical cancer). If starting Enbrel, will these

conditions worsen (cancer, kidney disease)?

What lab work do I need to expect and how often?

Is there anything I can take to help lessen the risk of infections?

I am still afraid of Enbrel, but now I think I am more afraid of the

RA worsening and leaving me debilitated.

Forgive me for being long winded, this a new and frightening

experience for me.

Thank you,

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Welcome Jeanette:

So happy you are feeling so good! & nbsp; Imagine, able to walk that

distance. & nbsp; There is hope for all of us!!!!!! & nbsp; You are certainly in a

very good place now.

Hugs,

Barbara

From: Jeanette & lt;jhkerch@... & gt;

Subject: [ ] Re: New member

Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 1:56 PM

I think Enbrel is great. I started on it about a year ago. I

noticed it started working in 3 weeks. Today I have more energy & amp;

can walk 1.5 miles before I'm tired. A year ago I could only take 8

inch steps and walk 20 feet. So it's done a fantastic job getting me

to a much better place.

& gt;

& gt; Hi,

& gt; My name is . I am 44 years old and I have JRA.. was diagnosed

& gt; at 12 years old.

& gt;

& gt; Up until 6 months ago I have managed with NSAIDs. To be honest, I

& gt; don't know a day without pain, but it's also a blessing... if I had

& gt; late onset RA I don't know if I could cope.

& gt; I have had many surgeries.. from wrist, knuckle replacement to

lower

& gt; jaw surgery. I am lucky in that I have had little to no

inflammation

& gt; and stiffness. What little of that I had usually disapates in 30

& gt; minutes or so after I start moving in the mornings. Until recently.

& gt; Now I have pain and stiffness, some days more than others (when

& gt; before it was usually a " mechanical " problem.. can't open bottles

and

& gt; doors, button my clothes, etc.) Periodically I have major swelling

in

& gt; one or both knees and stiffness which is new. My hands hurt even

& gt; though I am not doing anything.

& gt; I started receiving social security 5 years ago, I was a floral

& gt; designer (on my feet all day, sometimes 16 hours, working with my

& gt; hands)for 24 years. I think ceasing to work with my hands as much

may

& gt; contribute to the pain I am feeling now, but I also know I can no

& gt; longer work. I draw and paint and excercise my hands when I can.

& gt;

& gt; I started seeing a new rheumatologist two years ago, and at my

first

& gt; appointment, looking at my records, He asked why I am not on

Enbrel.

& gt; I was afraid of the side effects, and still am.

& gt;

& gt; Recently one day I woke up and decided to stop treating the

symptoms

& gt; and try to keep the RA from worsening.

& gt;

& gt; So, I am at the point to try Enbrel. My doctor is very much for it,

& gt; and he explained the TB, infections,site reaction, which he has had

& gt; experience in dealing with his patients on Enbrel.

& gt;

& gt; I would like to hear from Enbrel patients, what their experiences

& gt; have been, and what they have learned about the more serious and

& gt; possibly fatal side effects that may occur.

& gt;

& gt; I have a history of kidney stones and a couple of abnormal pap

smears

& gt; (one with precancerous cells, but have been treated, and have

tested

& gt; negative for cervical cancer). If starting Enbrel, will these

& gt; conditions worsen (cancer, kidney disease)?

& gt;

& gt; What lab work do I need to expect and how often?

& gt;

& gt; Is there anything I can take to help lessen the risk of infections?

& gt;

& gt; I am still afraid of Enbrel, but now I think I am more afraid of

the

& gt; RA worsening and leaving me debilitated.

& gt;

& gt; Forgive me for being long winded, this a new and frightening

& gt; experience for me.

& gt;

& gt; Thank you,

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

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WELCOME LAURA, I TO HAVE HAD JRA SINCE I WAS 5. SO PRETTY MUCH I HAVE LIVED WITH

PAIN FOR WAY TOO LONG BUT I HAVE LEARNED TO DEAL FOR MY FAMILYS SAKE!!!! I WISH

I COULD TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THE MED YOUR ASKING ABOUT BUT I DON'T TAKE THAT

ONE. THANK GOODNESS CUZ I TAKE EVERYTHING ELSE!! I HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER SOON,

HANG IN THERE! GOD BLESS,MELYNDAGAMEZ 6/2/08 2:20P.M.CENTRAL TIME

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Hi,

My name is . I am 44 years old and I have JRA.. was diagnosed 

at 12 years old.

Up until 6 months ago I have managed with NSAIDs. To be honest, I

don't know a day without pain, but it's also a blessing... if I had

late onset RA I don't know if I could cope.

I have had many surgeries.. from wrist, knuckle replacement to  lower

jaw surgery. I am lucky in that I have had little to no inflammation

and stiffness. What little of that I had usually disapates in 30

minutes or so after I start moving in the mornings. Until recently.

Now I have pain and stiffness, some days more than others (when

before it was usually a " mechanical " problem.. can't open bottles and

doors, button my clothes, etc.) Periodically I have major swelling in

one or both knees and stiffness which is new. My hands hurt even

though I am not doing anything.

I started receiving social security 5 years ago, I was a floral

designer (on my feet all day, sometimes 16 hours, working with my

hands)for 24 years. I think ceasing to work with my hands as much may

contribute to the pain I am feeling now, but I also know I can no

longer work. I draw and paint and excercise my hands when I can.

I started seeing a new rheumatologist two years ago, and at my first

appointment, looking at my records, He asked why I am not on Enbrel.

I was afraid of the side effects, and still am.

Recently one day I woke up and decided to stop treating the symptoms

and try to keep the RA from worsening.

So, I am at the point to try Enbrel. My doctor is very much for it,

and he explained the TB, infections,site reaction, which he has had

experience in dealing with his patients on Enbrel.

I would like to hear from Enbrel patients, what their experiences

have been, and what they have learned about the more serious and

possibly fatal side effects that may occur.

I have a history of kidney stones and a couple of abnormal pap smears

(one with precancerous cells, but have been treated, and have tested

negative for cervical cancer). If starting Enbrel, will these

conditions worsen (cancer, kidney disease)?

What lab work do I need to expect and how often?

Is there anything I can take to help lessen the risk of infections?

I am still afraid of Enbrel, but now I think I am more afraid of the

RA worsening and leaving me debilitated.

Forgive me for being long winded, this a new and frightening

experience for me.

Thank you,

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I have been on Enbrel for over five years, and it works wonderfully

well to control my pain and inflammation. As far as side effects, the

only one that I have is the feeling of no pain. I don't get infections

often, either. Just because all of those horrible possible side effects

are listed for Enbrel, that doesn't mean that you will get any of them.

I am lucky enough not to, and you may be, too. You won't know until you

try. I am a lot more afraid of the side effects of RA, the crippling

damage it can cause.

I wish you the same good luck that I have with Enbrel.

Sue

On Monday, June 2, 2008, at 04:45 AM, petaldachs wrote:

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> I would like to hear from Enbrel patients, what their experiences

> have been, and what they have learned about the more serious and

> possibly fatal side effects that may occur.

>

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