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Hi ,

To access the group files, go to the group homepage. On the left hand side is a

blue column, with a list of various options. Simply click on " Files " and you

will get a webpage with the complete list of files that have been uploaded by

members of this group. They are all labeled, and you can easily find the

" Natural Detox Products and Protocols " document, by scrolling down the page.

When you click on the name, a dialog box will ask you if you want to just open

and view the file, or download it - your choice.

- Jane

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> > From: its_just_talk <its_just_talk@>

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> > Subject: Joint Stiffness and Pain after Rifing - DETOX

> > To: Lyme_and_Rife

> > Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 8:13 AM

> >

> >

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> >  

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> > I have Bb infection in virtually every joint of my body, and in my brain.

DETOXING is the prime method I use to relieve joint stiffness and pain after

coiling. This is a subject I have been dealing with on an almost daily basis

since June of 2009. Treatment for symptoms only (i.e., pain relievers), is not

ultimately effective, as it will not address the underlying cause.

> >

> > The cause for my joint issues is Bb infection and die-off. I cannot say

catagorically, that all joint issues that lymies face are not caused by

co-infections. But in my research of the scientific data that exists covering

the morphology and life cycles of Bb and the co-infections, I cannot find data

on joint issues as related to any of the co-infections, except for Mycoplasma

fermentans, which like Bb, can manifest symptoms of a very wide range.

> >

> > Treating Bb with the coil machine is a very slow process, as most Lyme

patients are aware, and may take years. But regularly treating the die-off of

organsims, while treating the infection with rife, is absolutely ESSENTIAL. The

die-off of Bb is toxic, and causes inflammation, which is the root cause of

increased joint stiffness and pain after rifing treatments. The immune system is

reacting to the die-off of the infection in the joints, so therefore, they hurt

even more than usual.

> >

> > Bb lives in, and feeds on, the connective tissues in the body, and the joint

tissues are one of its preferred delicacies. IMO, it's important to understand

just what's going on in the body, where the Bb organism lives and breeds, as

this will be helpful in developing a strategy to combat it.

> >

> > The following documents are two of the best I've come across in explaing the

morphology of the Bb organism and its effects on the body, in a fashion that can

be comprehended by the average lymie who does not hold a degree in biochemistry:

> >

> > http://www.natcaplyme.org/images/pdfs/NCLBacteria09.pdf

> >

> > (The above PDF, " The Borrelia Genus " has many footnotes and references to

scientifc research, and those are important, as they are the evidence for all

claims cited about the organism.

> >

> > http://www.townsendletter.com/FebMar2006/lyme0206.htm

> >

> > The above link to a Townsend Letter article, " Biochemistry of Lyme Disease:

Borrelia burgdorferi Spirochete/Cyst " , explains how the Bb neurotoxin interferes

with the neurotransmitter, acetylcholine, which inhibits nerve functioning, and

can lead to a host of symtoms.

> >

> > http://www.townsendletter.com/July2010/sapi0710.html

> >

> > The above link to a Townsend Letter article, " In Vitro Effectiveness of

Samento and Banderol Herbal Extracts on the Different Morphological Forms of

Borrelia Burgdorferi " , describes cutting edge, in vitro research on Bb, by the

University of New Haven.

> >

> > There are also a host of Lyme related PubMed articles, which are very

difficult to comprehend, as they are full of scientific jargon, and geared

towards peers. Below is a link to one such article, which reports research about

how the Bb organism resides in, and dissolves (and feeds on) the " extracellular

matrix " of mammals. It's not easy to comprehend, but it does explain how Bb

consumes connective tissue, which makes up the " extracellular matrix " - the

space between cells in the body and the brain.

> >

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=PMC96674

> >

> > - Jane

> >

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found it! thanks again, karen

Subject: Accessing the group files ()To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 8:39 PM

Hi ,To access the group files, go to the group homepage. On the left hand side is a blue column, with a list of various options. Simply click on "Files" and you will get a webpage with the complete list of files that have been uploaded by members of this group. They are all labeled, and you can easily find the "Natural Detox Products and Protocols" document, by scrolling down the page. When you click on the name, a dialog box will ask you if you want to just open and view the file, or download it - your choice.- Jane> > > > > > From: its_just_talk <its_just_talk@>> > > Subject: Joint Stiffness and Pain after Rifing - DETOX> > To: Lyme_and_Rife > > Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 8:13 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > I have Bb infection in virtually every joint of my body, and in my brain. DETOXING is the prime method I use to relieve joint stiffness and pain after coiling. This is a subject I have been dealing with on an almost daily basis since June of 2009. Treatment for symptoms only (i.e., pain relievers), is not ultimately effective, as it will not address the

underlying cause.> > > > The cause for my joint issues is Bb infection and die-off. I cannot say catagorically, that all joint issues that lymies face are not caused by co-infections. But in my research of the scientific data that exists covering the morphology and life cycles of Bb and the co-infections, I cannot find data on joint issues as related to any of the co-infections, except for Mycoplasma fermentans, which like Bb, can manifest symptoms of a very wide range.> > > > Treating Bb with the coil machine is a very slow process, as most Lyme patients are aware, and may take years. But regularly treating the die-off of organsims, while treating the infection with rife, is absolutely ESSENTIAL. The die-off of Bb is toxic, and causes inflammation, which is the root cause of increased joint stiffness and pain after rifing treatments. The immune system is reacting to the die-off of the infection in the joints, so

therefore, they hurt even more than usual.> > > > Bb lives in, and feeds on, the connective tissues in the body, and the joint tissues are one of its preferred delicacies. IMO, it's important to understand just what's going on in the body, where the Bb organism lives and breeds, as this will be helpful in developing a strategy to combat it.> > > > The following documents are two of the best I've come across in explaing the morphology of the Bb organism and its effects on the body, in a fashion that can be comprehended by the average lymie who does not hold a degree in biochemistry:> > > > http://www.natcaplyme.org/images/pdfs/NCLBacteria09.pdf> > > > (The above PDF, "The Borrelia Genus" has many footnotes and references to scientifc research, and those are important, as they are

the evidence for all claims cited about the organism.> > > > http://www.townsendletter.com/FebMar2006/lyme0206.htm> > > > The above link to a Townsend Letter article, "Biochemistry of Lyme Disease: Borrelia burgdorferi Spirochete/Cyst", explains how the Bb neurotoxin interferes with the neurotransmitter, acetylcholine, which inhibits nerve functioning, and can lead to a host of symtoms.> > > > http://www.townsendletter.com/July2010/sapi0710.html> > > > The above link to a Townsend Letter article, "In Vitro Effectiveness of Samento and Banderol Herbal Extracts on the Different Morphological Forms of Borrelia Burgdorferi", describes cutting edge, in vitro research on Bb, by the University of

New Haven.> > > > There are also a host of Lyme related PubMed articles, which are very difficult to comprehend, as they are full of scientific jargon, and geared towards peers. Below is a link to one such article, which reports research about how the Bb organism resides in, and dissolves (and feeds on) the "extracellular matrix" of mammals. It's not easy to comprehend, but it does explain how Bb consumes connective tissue, which makes up the "extracellular matrix" - the space between cells in the body and the brain.> > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=PMC96674> > > > - Jane> >>

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