Dental work

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I've had floaters since I was a teenager - maybe my GD goes back that

far. I've got this tremendous desire to know when....

After all this talk lately about the dentist, I got a call yesterday

to remind me I have a dentist appt today. Ugh. I know two teeth

are sensitive and his hygenist will have fun with them. Oh well,

wish me luck

Kate

Pam wrote:

Mona,

You say you can not get anyone to agree with you on the floaters.

Well, I do.

When my eyes were still bad, I had the clear, surrounded by a line,

type floaters. They

are basically gone now, that my eyes have improved so much on their

own. It took a log

time, and only after my levels were closer to normal for a year or

so. I believe there are

different kinds of floaters. Seems someone , somewhere, had floaters

that were solid. And

it seems they might be more permanent. But I am trusting my memory

here. (risky at best.

LOL). Though even the memory seems better lately. Just enough to trick

me into trusting it

more often than it deserves.

-Pam-

[Guest guest]

Wow -

Thanks Mona. My regular doctor just dropped this information on me (that

Graves' could have some negative effect on my eyes), but she never told me

what problems I might encounter...Sheesh, this Graves' messes everything up!

Can we counteract this by taking vitamins? Anyone have any experience here?

I always take antioxidants and the last time I was tested for my eyes (6

months ago) the doctor told me my eyes were healthy. Darn, my insurance

only covers once-yearly physicals for eyes.

Arlene

Re: Dental work

>Hi Arlene,

>

>It is important to let your eye doc know about the Graves. When I was

>having problems my eye pressure went up so the docs were checking me every

6

>months. Just had a complete eye physical including field of vision and

>everything is great. I think the floaters are caused by Graves but can't

>get anyone to agree with me, anyway other than the floaters I'm ok!!

Later,

>Mona

> Re: Dental work

>>

>>

>> >Hi Jen,

>> > Sheesh, here we are working so hard on taking care of our thyroids,

and

>> battling the

>> >doctors, and then we get a tooth ache. Saw your post on the doctor.

>Sounds

>> to me like you

>> >are doing all the right stuff. I sure will keep my fingers crossed for

>you

>> on your cool

>> >normal levels. Good job !

>> > As to the dentist doubting gum disease caused by hyper....I then asked

>my

>> endo and he

>> >said yes, it could be the reason. This is the guy that always says

>nothing

>> else is caused

>> >by thyroid. <sigh> My personal reason to believe this is true, is that I

>> find when my

>> >levels are off, NOTHING on my body heals right or in good time. Then as

>> soon as I get back

>> >to within normal for me ranges, my cuts, scrapes, aches and pains go

away

>> or get better. I

>> >also notice when I am going the wrong way thyroid wise, one good

>indication

>> is my gums

>> >start bleeding more and I start getting sores in my mouth.

>> > If you still have problems with your gums, you might try spacing the

>> cleaning closer

>> >together than 6 mo. At my peak, I did it every 3 mo. and that did help a

>> bit. After

>> >thyroid treatment I have changed slowly to 4 mo., now 5 mo. But think I

>may

>> go back to 4

>> >mo. as this up and down with PTU may still be affecting things a bit.

>> Though no where near

>> >as much as before.

>> > Which brings up the mouth wash. The one from my dentist does help. It

>is

>> Peridex and

>> >they say it is Swedish....but I see on the label it says manufactured in

>> Phoenix Az.( you

>> >see thyroid is not my only confusion) I use it a lot each day when

>problems

>> arise, and do

>> >not rinse it out or eat or drink for a while after I use it. I can then

>> count on some

>> >relief in about 2 days.

>> >

>> >Thanks for the post. I don't feel quite so crazy. :-)

>> >

>> >-Pam- on the count down till CHAIR time 20 hr. and 30 min. = :-o

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Chin up, Kate! It feels so wonderful after the cleaning is finished!

Breathe deeply.

Donna

http://trak.to/life

www.reliv.com

Take control of your health!

Kate Fraser wrote:

Hi all,

I've had floaters since I was a teenager - maybe my GD goes back that

far. I've got this tremendous desire to know when....

After all this talk lately about the dentist, I got a call yesterday

to remind me I have a dentist appt today. Ugh. I know two teeth

are sensitive and his hygenist will have fun with them. Oh well,

wish me luck

Kate

Pam wrote:

Mona,

You say you can not get anyone to agree with you on the floaters.

Well, I do.

When my eyes were still bad, I had the clear, surrounded by a line,

type floaters. They

are basically gone now, that my eyes have improved so much on their

own. It took a log

time, and only after my levels were closer to normal for a year or

so. I believe there are

different kinds of floaters. Seems someone , somewhere, had floaters

that were solid. And

it seems they might be more permanent. But I am trusting my memory

here. (risky at best.

LOL). Though even the memory seems better lately. Just enough to trick

me into trusting it

more often than it deserves.

-Pam-

[Guest guest]

That's my department, Arlene. Vitamins and balanced nutrition.

I'm looking at specifics in the estrogen/progesterone department today.

I'll get back to the group.

Donna

http://trak.to/life

www.reliv.com

Take control of your health!

Arlene Houghton wrote:

Wow -

Thanks Mona. My regular doctor just dropped this information

on me (that

Graves' could have some negative effect on my eyes), but she never

told me

what problems I might encounter...Sheesh, this Graves' messes everything

up!

Can we counteract this by taking vitamins? Anyone have any

experience here?

I always take antioxidants and the last time I was tested for my

eyes (6

months ago) the doctor told me my eyes were healthy. Darn,

my insurance

only covers once-yearly physicals for eyes.

Arlene

Re: Dental work

>Hi Arlene,

>

>It is important to let your eye doc know about the Graves.

When I was

>having problems my eye pressure went up so the docs were checking

me every

6

>months. Just had a complete eye physical including field

of vision and

>everything is great. I think the floaters are caused by

Graves but can't

>get anyone to agree with me, anyway other than the floaters I'm

ok!!

Later,

>Mona

> Re: Dental work

>>

>>

>> >Hi Jen,

>> > Sheesh, here we are working so hard on taking care of

our thyroids,

and

>> battling the

>> >doctors, and then we get a tooth ache. Saw your post on the

doctor.

>Sounds

>> to me like you

>> >are doing all the right stuff. I sure will keep my fingers

crossed for

>you

>> on your cool

>> >normal levels. Good job !

>> > As to the dentist doubting gum disease caused by hyper....I

then asked

>my

>> endo and he

>> >said yes, it could be the reason. This is the guy that always

says

>nothing

>> else is caused

>> >by thyroid. <sigh> My personal reason to believe this is

true, is that I

>> find when my

>> >levels are off, NOTHING on my body heals right or in good time.

Then as

>> soon as I get back

>> >to within normal for me ranges, my cuts, scrapes, aches and

pains go

away

>> or get better. I

>> >also notice when I am going the wrong way thyroid wise, one

good

>indication

>> is my gums

>> >start bleeding more and I start getting sores in my mouth.

>> > If you still have problems with your gums, you might

try spacing the

>> cleaning closer

>> >together than 6 mo. At my peak, I did it every 3 mo. and that

did help a

>> bit. After

>> >thyroid treatment I have changed slowly to 4 mo., now 5 mo.

But think I

>may

>> go back to 4

>> >mo. as this up and down with PTU may still be affecting things

a bit.

>> Though no where near

>> >as much as before.

>> > Which brings up the mouth wash. The one from my dentist

does help. It

>is

>> Peridex and

>> >they say it is Swedish....but I see on the label it says manufactured

in

>> Phoenix Az.( you

>> >see thyroid is not my only confusion) I use it a lot each day

when

>problems

>> arise, and do

>> >not rinse it out or eat or drink for a while after I use it.

I can then

>> count on some

>> >relief in about 2 days.

>> >

>> >Thanks for the post. I don't feel quite so crazy. :-)

>> >

>> >-Pam- on the count down till CHAIR time 20 hr. and

30 min. = :-o

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Donna - I'm home again and in one piece. So far they

found only one new cavity - under an existing filling of course.

I think there is another problem and am debating whether or not to bother

to mention it. Dentist was really kind today. Being a Grandma-to-be

seems to be making me very emotionally vulnerable. I could have cried

in his office - sorta like at a wedding - when he was kind enough to hunt

me down just to say hello.

Kate

Donna wrote:

Chin up, Kate! It feels so wonderful after

the cleaning is finished! Breathe deeply.

Donna

http://trak.to/life

www.reliv.com

Take control of your health!

Kate Fraser wrote:

Hi all,

I've had floaters since I was a teenager - maybe my GD goes back that

far. I've got this tremendous desire to know when....

After all this talk lately about the dentist, I got a call yesterday

to remind me I have a dentist appt today. Ugh. I know two teeth

are sensitive and his hygenist will have fun with them. Oh well,

wish me luck

Kate

Pam wrote:

Mona,

You say you can not get anyone to agree with you on the floaters.

Well, I do.

When my eyes were still bad, I had the clear, surrounded by a line,

type floaters. They

are basically gone now, that my eyes have improved so much on their

own. It took a log

time, and only after my levels were closer to normal for a year or

so. I believe there are

different kinds of floaters. Seems someone , somewhere, had floaters

that were solid. And

it seems they might be more permanent. But I am trusting my memory

here. (risky at best.

LOL). Though even the memory seems better lately. Just enough to trick

me into trusting it

more often than it deserves.

-Pam-

[Guest guest]

OK, I try not to be negative and bitch about all this thyroid stuff and all

the " bad " doc's that don't know their head from their ***, but after reading

so many things that people have been experiencing and reflecting back on my

exact same symptoms that I have told the doctors about, I am angry. So I

guess it is my turn to vent.

About five or so years ago, I went to my eye doctor and he diagnosis me with

Glaucoma. Then, two years later I get diagnosed with Graves and the next

time I see him I told him about it and he say's " your thyroid has nothing to

do with the pressure levels in your eyes, your Grandma had Glaucoma, didn't

she? " I have to go see this guy next week, should I give him an ear full?

I just can't believe all the different things that thyroid problems can

cause. But what is even more unbelievable, is how little doctors (even

Endos) know about Graves and how they misdiagnose symptoms all the time.

[Guest guest]

Right On!

Doesn't everyone just get furious from time to time? But the

problem as I see it is that we've educated ourselves in that area far more

than most doctors are exposed to. Wake up MD's and Opthmologists!

We know what's not okay!

Tmmw71@... wrote:

OK, I try not to be negative and bitch about all

this thyroid stuff and all

the "bad" doc's that don't know their head from their ***, but after

reading

so many things that people have been experiencing and reflecting back

on my

exact same symptoms that I have told the doctors about, I am angry.

So I

guess it is my turn to vent.

About five or so years ago, I went to my eye doctor and he diagnosis

me with

Glaucoma. Then, two years later I get diagnosed with Graves and

the next

time I see him I told him about it and he say's "your thyroid has nothing

to

do with the pressure levels in your eyes, your Grandma had Glaucoma,

didn't

she?" I have to go see this guy next week, should I give him

an ear full?

I just can't believe all the different things that thyroid problems

can

cause. But what is even more unbelievable, is how little doctors

(even

Endos) know about Graves and how they misdiagnose symptoms all the

time.

[Guest guest]

Hi Arlene,

Don't worry about your eyes. If you were having a problem, you'd know it!

Some minor irritations include dryness, burning, headaches, change in

vision. If your eyes become dry, use something like REFRESH that is

preservative free so that you can use as much as you want. My experience

with eye problems included bulging, eyelid retraction, muscle pain around or

in the eyes, vision changes. Once my thyroid was stabilized so did my eyes.

I was getting checked every six months because my eye pressure went up - I

think it was because my eyes were bulging a little. I still experience

occasional " weirdness " such as muscle movement around the eyes, dryness or

headaches. I notice this when I'm stressed or hungry.

I take vitamins and ask Elaine and lots of questions and visit

their website often. Also, if your eyes became a problem it would fall

under the " medical " category and you'd have to see an ophthalmologists (an

MD).

Don't worry though, chances are you won't have any problems. Take care,

Mona

Re: Dental work

> >>

> >>

> >> >Hi Jen,

> >> > Sheesh, here we are working so hard on taking care of our thyroids,

> and

> >> battling the

> >> >doctors, and then we get a tooth ache. Saw your post on the doctor.

> >Sounds

> >> to me like you

> >> >are doing all the right stuff. I sure will keep my fingers crossed for

> >you

> >> on your cool

> >> >normal levels. Good job !

> >> > As to the dentist doubting gum disease caused by hyper....I then

asked

> >my

> >> endo and he

> >> >said yes, it could be the reason. This is the guy that always says

> >nothing

> >> else is caused

> >> >by thyroid. <sigh> My personal reason to believe this is true, is that

I

> >> find when my

> >> >levels are off, NOTHING on my body heals right or in good time. Then

as

> >> soon as I get back

> >> >to within normal for me ranges, my cuts, scrapes, aches and pains go

> away

> >> or get better. I

> >> >also notice when I am going the wrong way thyroid wise, one good

> >indication

> >> is my gums

> >> >start bleeding more and I start getting sores in my mouth.

> >> > If you still have problems with your gums, you might try spacing the

> >> cleaning closer

> >> >together than 6 mo. At my peak, I did it every 3 mo. and that did help

a

> >> bit. After

> >> >thyroid treatment I have changed slowly to 4 mo., now 5 mo. But think

I

> >may

> >> go back to 4

> >> >mo. as this up and down with PTU may still be affecting things a bit.

> >> Though no where near

> >> >as much as before.

> >> > Which brings up the mouth wash. The one from my dentist does help.

It

> >is

> >> Peridex and

> >> >they say it is Swedish....but I see on the label it says manufactured

in

> >> Phoenix Az.( you

> >> >see thyroid is not my only confusion) I use it a lot each day when

> >problems

> >> arise, and do

> >> >not rinse it out or eat or drink for a while after I use it. I can

then

> >> count on some

> >> >relief in about 2 days.

> >> >

> >> >Thanks for the post. I don't feel quite so crazy. :-)

> >> >

> >> >-Pam- on the count down till CHAIR time 20 hr. and 30 min. = :-o

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Mona,

Another reminder to just trust my body and what it is telling me! Thanks

for this support, and for the support in the next message encouraging me to

ask questions both of you guys on this forum, and my doctors. The problem I

have been having is that I don't think of the questions until AFTER I have

seen my doctors, and then they seem so inaccessible! Thanks again,

everyone. Well, I am still at 25 mg. PTU and go for my blood test this

coming week! Hoping the results are good...

thanks all,

Arlene

Re: Dental work

>Hi Arlene,

>

>Don't worry about your eyes. If you were having a problem, you'd know it!

>Some minor irritations include dryness, burning, headaches, change in

>vision. If your eyes become dry, use something like REFRESH that is

>preservative free so that you can use as much as you want. My experience

>with eye problems included bulging, eyelid retraction, muscle pain around

or

>in the eyes, vision changes. Once my thyroid was stabilized so did my

eyes.

>

>I was getting checked every six months because my eye pressure went up - I

>think it was because my eyes were bulging a little. I still experience

>occasional " weirdness " such as muscle movement around the eyes, dryness or

>headaches. I notice this when I'm stressed or hungry.

>

>I take vitamins and ask Elaine and lots of questions and visit

>their website often. Also, if your eyes became a problem it would fall

>under the " medical " category and you'd have to see an ophthalmologists (an

>MD).

>

>Don't worry though, chances are you won't have any problems. Take care,

>Mona

> Re: Dental work

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> >Hi Jen,

>> >> > Sheesh, here we are working so hard on taking care of our thyroids,

>> and

>> >> battling the

>> >> >doctors, and then we get a tooth ache. Saw your post on the doctor.

>> >Sounds

>> >> to me like you

>> >> >are doing all the right stuff. I sure will keep my fingers crossed

for

>> >you

>> >> on your cool

>> >> >normal levels. Good job !

>> >> > As to the dentist doubting gum disease caused by hyper....I then

>asked

>> >my

>> >> endo and he

>> >> >said yes, it could be the reason. This is the guy that always says

>> >nothing

>> >> else is caused

>> >> >by thyroid. <sigh> My personal reason to believe this is true, is

that

>I

>> >> find when my

>> >> >levels are off, NOTHING on my body heals right or in good time. Then

>as

>> >> soon as I get back

>> >> >to within normal for me ranges, my cuts, scrapes, aches and pains go

>> away

>> >> or get better. I

>> >> >also notice when I am going the wrong way thyroid wise, one good

>> >indication

>> >> is my gums

>> >> >start bleeding more and I start getting sores in my mouth.

>> >> > If you still have problems with your gums, you might try spacing

the

>> >> cleaning closer

>> >> >together than 6 mo. At my peak, I did it every 3 mo. and that did

help

>a

>> >> bit. After

>> >> >thyroid treatment I have changed slowly to 4 mo., now 5 mo. But think

>I

>> >may

>> >> go back to 4

>> >> >mo. as this up and down with PTU may still be affecting things a bit.

>> >> Though no where near

>> >> >as much as before.

>> >> > Which brings up the mouth wash. The one from my dentist does help.

>It

>> >is

>> >> Peridex and

>> >> >they say it is Swedish....but I see on the label it says manufactured

>in

>> >> Phoenix Az.( you

>> >> >see thyroid is not my only confusion) I use it a lot each day when

>> >problems

>> >> arise, and do

>> >> >not rinse it out or eat or drink for a while after I use it. I can

>then

>> >> count on some

>> >> >relief in about 2 days.

>> >> >

>> >> >Thanks for the post. I don't feel quite so crazy. :-)

>> >> >

>> >> >-Pam- on the count down till CHAIR time 20 hr. and 30 min. = :-o

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Arlene,

Just wanted to let you know that I was on a 1/4 pill /day for several

months - the doc wanted to wean me off the meds as slow as possible so as

not to shock my system. It takes time, so be patient. I also couldn't

remember the questions until AFTER I left the office so I started writing

down the questions. If you have a husband, brother, family member willing

to go with you that seems to help. The docs tend not to be so arrogant when

there's another person in the office. Especially if they ask the questions!

Perhaps they feel slightly intimidated, who knows. Anyway, have a great

day! Mona

Re: Dental work

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> >Hi Jen,

> >> >> > Sheesh, here we are working so hard on taking care of our

thyroids,

> >> and

> >> >> battling the

> >> >> >doctors, and then we get a tooth ache. Saw your post on the doctor.

> >> >Sounds

> >> >> to me like you

> >> >> >are doing all the right stuff. I sure will keep my fingers crossed

> for

> >> >you

> >> >> on your cool

> >> >> >normal levels. Good job !

> >> >> > As to the dentist doubting gum disease caused by hyper....I then

> >asked

> >> >my

> >> >> endo and he

> >> >> >said yes, it could be the reason. This is the guy that always says

> >> >nothing

> >> >> else is caused

> >> >> >by thyroid. <sigh> My personal reason to believe this is true, is

> that

> >I

> >> >> find when my

> >> >> >levels are off, NOTHING on my body heals right or in good time.

Then

> >as

> >> >> soon as I get back

> >> >> >to within normal for me ranges, my cuts, scrapes, aches and pains

go

> >> away

> >> >> or get better. I

> >> >> >also notice when I am going the wrong way thyroid wise, one good

> >> >indication

> >> >> is my gums

> >> >> >start bleeding more and I start getting sores in my mouth.

> >> >> > If you still have problems with your gums, you might try spacing

> the

> >> >> cleaning closer

> >> >> >together than 6 mo. At my peak, I did it every 3 mo. and that did

> help

> >a

> >> >> bit. After

> >> >> >thyroid treatment I have changed slowly to 4 mo., now 5 mo. But

think

> >I

> >> >may

> >> >> go back to 4

> >> >> >mo. as this up and down with PTU may still be affecting things a

bit.

> >> >> Though no where near

> >> >> >as much as before.

> >> >> > Which brings up the mouth wash. The one from my dentist does

help.

> >It

> >> >is

> >> >> Peridex and

> >> >> >they say it is Swedish....but I see on the label it says

manufactured

> >in

> >> >> Phoenix Az.( you

> >> >> >see thyroid is not my only confusion) I use it a lot each day when

> >> >problems

> >> >> arise, and do

> >> >> >not rinse it out or eat or drink for a while after I use it. I can

> >then

> >> >> count on some

> >> >> >relief in about 2 days.

> >> >> >

> >> >> >Thanks for the post. I don't feel quite so crazy. :-)

> >> >> >

> >> >> >-Pam- on the count down till CHAIR time 20 hr. and 30 min. =

:-o

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

You are right about the doctors not acting so intimidating when another

person is in the room. What I have found is that if the doctor is a male,

and you take your husband, then things are sure different...

thanks for all your help. I have now been on 25 mg. of PTU for around 1 1/2

months.

Arlene

Re: Dental work

>Hi Arlene,

>

>Just wanted to let you know that I was on a 1/4 pill /day for several

>months - the doc wanted to wean me off the meds as slow as possible so as

>not to shock my system. It takes time, so be patient. I also couldn't

>remember the questions until AFTER I left the office so I started writing

>down the questions. If you have a husband, brother, family member willing

>to go with you that seems to help. The docs tend not to be so arrogant

when

>there's another person in the office. Especially if they ask the

questions!

>Perhaps they feel slightly intimidated, who knows. Anyway, have a great

>day! Mona

> Re: Dental work

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> >Hi Jen,

>> >> >> > Sheesh, here we are working so hard on taking care of our

>thyroids,

>> >> and

>> >> >> battling the

>> >> >> >doctors, and then we get a tooth ache. Saw your post on the

doctor.

>> >> >Sounds

>> >> >> to me like you

>> >> >> >are doing all the right stuff. I sure will keep my fingers crossed

>> for

>> >> >you

>> >> >> on your cool

>> >> >> >normal levels. Good job !

>> >> >> > As to the dentist doubting gum disease caused by hyper....I then

>> >asked

>> >> >my

>> >> >> endo and he

>> >> >> >said yes, it could be the reason. This is the guy that always says

>> >> >nothing

>> >> >> else is caused

>> >> >> >by thyroid. <sigh> My personal reason to believe this is true, is

>> that

>> >I

>> >> >> find when my

>> >> >> >levels are off, NOTHING on my body heals right or in good time.

>Then

>> >as

>> >> >> soon as I get back

>> >> >> >to within normal for me ranges, my cuts, scrapes, aches and pains

>go

>> >> away

>> >> >> or get better. I

>> >> >> >also notice when I am going the wrong way thyroid wise, one good

>> >> >indication

>> >> >> is my gums

>> >> >> >start bleeding more and I start getting sores in my mouth.

>> >> >> > If you still have problems with your gums, you might try spacing

>> the

>> >> >> cleaning closer

>> >> >> >together than 6 mo. At my peak, I did it every 3 mo. and that did

>> help

>> >a

>> >> >> bit. After

>> >> >> >thyroid treatment I have changed slowly to 4 mo., now 5 mo. But

>think

>> >I

>> >> >may

>> >> >> go back to 4

>> >> >> >mo. as this up and down with PTU may still be affecting things a

>bit.

>> >> >> Though no where near

>> >> >> >as much as before.

>> >> >> > Which brings up the mouth wash. The one from my dentist does

>help.

>> >It

>> >> >is

>> >> >> Peridex and

>> >> >> >they say it is Swedish....but I see on the label it says

>manufactured

>> >in

>> >> >> Phoenix Az.( you

>> >> >> >see thyroid is not my only confusion) I use it a lot each day when

>> >> >problems

>> >> >> arise, and do

>> >> >> >not rinse it out or eat or drink for a while after I use it. I can

>> >then

>> >> >> count on some

>> >> >> >relief in about 2 days.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >Thanks for the post. I don't feel quite so crazy. :-)

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >-Pam- on the count down till CHAIR time 20 hr. and 30 min. =

>:-o

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Hello Mona

Have you come across any reasons why a doctor would want to take you off the

meds suddenly? I know that a lot of them want patients to just stop and I

think my endo is one of them - I was just wondering if we knew what their

reasons were for this before he and I get into a row about it.

Re: Dental work

> Hi Arlene,

>

> Just wanted to let you know that I was on a 1/4 pill /day for several

> months - the doc wanted to wean me off the meds as slow as possible so as

> not to shock my system. It takes time, so be patient. I also couldn't

> remember the questions until AFTER I left the office so I started writing

> down the questions. If you have a husband, brother, family member willing

> to go with you that seems to help. The docs tend not to be so arrogant

when

> there's another person in the office. Especially if they ask the

questions!

> Perhaps they feel slightly intimidated, who knows. Anyway, have a great

> day! Mona

[Guest guest]

At 11:07 AM 12/12/2001 -0800, you wrote:

>While reading up on chelation and dental work, I came

>across a post about fillings. My son just had to

>cavities filled last month. I insisted on white

>fillings, but not sure if they were Porcelain or

>composite fillings. I guess I did not understand

>there was a difference. I can't remember what the

>dentist actually called them, I don't think he

>mentioned the word porcelain at all. I am hoping it

>was a composite filling, I understand this has no

>metals what-so-ever it them.

>

>Does anyone know if this is correct?

>

>Thanks in advance.

>- janowski

Hi ,

I believe there are several types/brands of white filling

materials. I don't know much. I'd ask the dentist for more

info on what is in the stuff.

Moria

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/2/03 7:55:40 PM, nucleus24@... writes:

> Usually only

> for those with metal heart valve replacements.

>

taking antibiotics before dental work applies to people who have metal in

their bodies metal heart values or metal pins or metal plates or metal

knees

metal apparently attracts bacteria which may cause an infection this is

the idea of taking an antibiotic before dental work if there is any metal in

the body

the antibiotic will protect against infections why would an orthopedic

advice antibiotics because is patient has a metal pin and a ENT doctor says it

is not needed in his patient that has a metal magnet? i am just asking

because it seems strange and confusing to me

BTW DR. Cliff Megerian was my surgeon when he was at UMass hospital

a very good doctor!!

susan

N24 7/02

[Guest guest]

Antibiotics are recommended for dental patients with certain heart valve

problems as well as those with valve replacements, orthopedic patients with

metal plates and joint replacements, but not necessarily for just a few pins.

The cardiologist or orhopedic surgeon is the one to make the decision.

I think it is interesting that the 2 doctors who were quoted tonight both

mentioned heart valves but not orthopedic situations.

Anyway, my implant surgeon very definitely recommended it for me.

Steinerman

N24 Contour 5/00

[Guest guest]

I've been told by my dentist that antibiotics are required before ANY

dental work for 5 years after joint replacement. It is my

understanding that you take a high dose once the morning of your

appt. It is not a long-term antibiotic treatment. Clindomycin was

recommended (I am allergic to penicillin).

> I've been having some problems with a tooth since before my THR at

the end of September. Of course, during the holidays it decided to

act up, just when all the doctor's offices were closed. I ended up

going to an urgent care facility and getting some antibiotics to see

me through until I could get into a dentist.

>

> The dentist prescribed a course of clindomycin during the time she

was treating the tooth. She checked with my new ortho man about his

protocol involving dental work for implant patients. This is what

she relayed to me....

>

> For dental work like fillings, not much is done. But for

cleanings, and other kinds of dental treatment involving delving into

or under the gums, or dental surgery, he requests antibiotic before,

during and after the treatment.

>

> If you have an implant of any kind, please check with your ortho

doc or the dentist in advance of any planned dental work.

>

> I had myself sort of freaked out, worrying about the possiblity of

infection regarding the new joint. If not for the holidays, plus the

need to find a new dentist and a new ortho doc, I might have been a

little more proactive in this situation. Next time, I'll try to be a

bit smarter.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat,

I had heard that when on imuran, one should be

careful about dental work but no one has said anything

about being just on the pred. My dentist said that

with some patients with a compromised immune system,

they can take a course of antibiotics if having major

dental work done. I too would be interested in any

feedback concerning crowns as I have not one but 3 to

be done and i have been sitting on the fence. The

specialist when I asked a couple of months was not

forthcoming with any info. I guess as a liver

specialist she is not interested in anything else but

will ask again at my next appt. in early May. Hope to

get some other opinions. Take care!

Kathy

--- Kiland <patkiland@...> wrote: >

Being recently diagnosed with AIH, I have been on 30

> mg. Pred. for the past

> 44 days. I need to have a crown replaced. Does

> anyone know if it is ok to

> go ahead with dental work while on this medication?

> I am a real coward so

> for sure will have novacaine when I have the crown

> done! Would it be better

> to wait until the doctor starts to reduce the Pred.?

> Your advice on other

> questions that I have asked has been so helpful in

> the last few weeks.

>

> Thanks a ton.

> Pat

>

>

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[Guest guest]

This is for anyone who wants to listen and feed-back welcome.

I am up after three hours sleep. Lyme related Insomnia.

I am having fillings and a crown which I have had in my mouth 40 years taken

care of by the Insurance we poor people who fall in the crack of being so low

Income we don't have dental coverage unless we are willing to just let them pull

the teeth.

The bridge-work I've had for 40years Involves three teeth. It has already been

pulled and now I am going this morning to have a filling replaced.

I have always taken really good care of myself and that Includes cleaning my

teeth and only flossing the ones I want to keep. Just kidding about the

floss. I want to keep them all.

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie

I had to have 4 root canals done in a row. I had my wisdom teeth out when

I was young. Does the dentist want to do this all at the same time?

" Debby Hudson (Padilla) " <debbypadilla@...> wrote:

So my dentist says I need to get a root canal done. When I was 14 I

broke my front tooth and half was missing. At the time a cap was put

on the top half and has been there since.

The dentist says that the nerve and tooth are dead and starting to get

infected. Also he says I need to have all four of my wisdom teeth

pulled. I also have 4 cavities.

Any advice on this? Should I be concerned? Anything special I should

ask for?

Thanks for any info.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

[Guest guest]

No, he is doing each thing seperately. I was reading

the Weston Price article how he was saying root canals

are bad news. I'm just wondering if there is anything

I should look out for in terms of having a specific

type of filling put in, avoiding the root canal

altogether, etc.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- MAGGIE RIDEOUT <lavaforme@...> wrote:

> Hi Debbie

> I had to have 4 root canals done in a row. I

> had my wisdom teeth out when I was young. Does the

> dentist want to do this all at the same time?

>

>

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

Well Debby, they are bad news. You'll have a dead tooth in your mouth.

Maggie will have four. Dead teeth create toxins in your body, being a

dead element. This can be hazardous to a weakened immune system.

You have be absolutely sure as what he puts into the canal. Make sure it

is no amalgam, some dentists still do that. That is even worse. The

mercury will get into your system more easily still than through

cavities. But don't except amalgam anyhow!

It really bad, because of the mercury leaching in to your body and the

brains are so close to your teeth. Mercury is a nerve toxin.

It is not allowed in the environment, but it's still allowed in your

mouth! Strange thing.. It's the dentist's that are afraid of claims that

keep the myth up that mercury is safe.

I see an 'organic' dentist, i.e. she is aware of the problems some

dental work can create to your health.

Try to talk to your dentist and explain that you're health is so

weakened, that you are on a very strict diet and that he or she could

help you a lot by thinking along with you to help your health improve.

It could be he doesn't know anything about it. There are good sites that

give more information. Just Google a bit and you'll find out for

yourself.

Good luck! a

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----

Van:

[mailto: ] Namens Debby Padilla-Hudson

Verzonden: vrijdag 13 januari 2006 22:37

Aan:

Onderwerp: Re: [ ] Dental Work

No, he is doing each thing seperately. I was reading

the Weston Price article how he was saying root canals

are bad news. I'm just wondering if there is anything

I should look out for in terms of having a specific

type of filling put in, avoiding the root canal

altogether, etc.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- MAGGIE RIDEOUT <lavaforme@...> wrote:

> Hi Debbie

> I had to have 4 root canals done in a row. I

> had my wisdom teeth out when I was young. Does the

> dentist want to do this all at the same time?

>

>

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

Hi,

The short of it is that it's not a good idea to get root

canals/crowns.

Sometime ago, I checked with my environmental MD on the issue of

crowns/root canals. She said that the general consensus in the

alternative/holistic health community is that root canals and crowns

are a no-no to put it simply. The resulting environment in the mouth

at that place is not sterile and can easily degrade into infection,

often undetected, low grade and chronic, which creates havoc with

one's health. Also, unless one gets treated by a holistic dentist,

the materials used are toxic (amalgalm or not) and leech in the body.

My enviro. MD had 7 crowns/root canals removed (she had severe

environmental allergies and her immune system was severely

compromised). She had a very light weigth partial done, made with non-

toxic, biocompatible material (porcelaine; and zeolite I think, not

sure); she says she doesn't even notice her partial because it's so

light. I myself am planning to have my 2 root canals/crowns removed

at earliest convenience.

For more info on the harm root canals/crowns can do, you can search

the Internet (google, , etc.) by key words

Hope this helps.

Fran

[Guest guest]

I agree with the assessment that root canals & crowns are bad news. I had a

root canaled tooth with a crown on it. Basically it is already dead when

they remove the nerve & other internal structures of the tooth to stop the

pain. It doesnt stop infection however. Basically it becomes a sealed time

bomb. The only one that benefits is the dentist who charges you money to

" save " a dead tooth or rather saves you from having a gapping hole where

the tooth used to be. Then they charge you again when it starts to abcess &

needs to be yanked out anyways. Talk about double dipping. My advice is to

face the inevitable now & have it pulled saving yourself time & money rather

than delaying the end result. The tooth is gone so use money saved now to

make a partial denture. Your health will thank you as well. I did get 10

extra years with the tooth still there, but at what cost to my health with

all the poisons draining into my body?

Blessings,

Energyangelica

On 1/13/06, Debby Hudson (Padilla) <debbypadilla@...> wrote:

>

> So my dentist says I need to get a root canal done. When I was 14 I

> broke my front tooth and half was missing. At the time a cap was put

> on the top half and has been there since.

>

> The dentist says that the nerve and tooth are dead and starting to get

> infected. Also he says I need to have all four of my wisdom teeth

> pulled. I also have 4 cavities.

>

> Any advice on this? Should I be concerned? Anything special I should

> ask for?

>

> Thanks for any info.

>

> Luv,

> Debby

> San , CA

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Debby,

I'm not sure, I don't have much knowledge in that area. I hate having

tooth issues.

I had to have my molar pulled out because the root canal did not take.

Sorry that you have to go through all this. Ill pray for you

Debby Padilla-Hudson <debbypadilla@...> wrote:

No, he is doing each thing seperately. I was reading

the Weston Price article how he was saying root canals

are bad news. I'm just wondering if there is anything

I should look out for in terms of having a specific

type of filling put in, avoiding the root canal

altogether, etc.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- MAGGIE RIDEOUT <lavaforme@...> wrote:

> Hi Debbie

> I had to have 4 root canals done in a row. I

> had my wisdom teeth out when I was young. Does the

> dentist want to do this all at the same time?

>

>

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

--- a van Campen <martinavancampen@...>

wrote:

> Well Debby, they are bad news. You'll have a dead

> tooth in your mouth.

The thing is that the dentist told me the tooth is

already dead and has a low grade infection. The tooth

broke and died 18 years ago. So I guess I'm asking

should I just have the root canal and make sure they

put good material in it, have the tooth pulled, leave

it there or what?

> mouth! Strange thing.. It's the dentist's that are

> afraid of claims that

> keep the myth up that mercury is safe.

Is there anything specific I should ask for?

Thanks!

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/