Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 In a message dated 7/5/01 6:38:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, oxyplus writes: > In the manual is a statement that Herpes virus hides in > nerve sheaths, can be forced into a location where blood > or lymph fluid can get to it & kill them; otherwise they > are inaccessible to meds, etc. Sometimes they migrate > on their own [the wrong direction] & have been known to > result in brain infection [extremely bad news]. Joe, I receive a monthly health newsletter. Years ago, I remember reading about a treatment for those who have herpes. I gave that information to two friends whos spouses were afflicted. Both individuals, within 6 - 8 months no longer had any symptoms after doing the protocol called for. That was about 8 yrs ago. I did not save the info but you could probably get it by contacting the Dr West in Calif. who writes the newsletter. I find him very credible plus he also advises using Standard Process Labs supplements. If anyone wants the phone number send me a line. Terri L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 The herpes virus supposed hide at the base of the spine. 30 min ozone funneling everyday for 30 days should kill the virus. Erma At 11:29 AM 7/6/01 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 7/5/01 6:38:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >oxyplus writes: > > > > In the manual is a statement that Herpes virus hides in > > nerve sheaths, can be forced into a location where blood > > or lymph fluid can get to it & kill them; otherwise they > > are inaccessible to meds, etc. Sometimes they migrate > > on their own [the wrong direction] & have been known to > > result in brain infection [extremely bad news]. > >Joe, >I receive a monthly health newsletter. Years ago, I remember reading about a >treatment for those who have herpes. I gave that information to two friends >whos spouses were afflicted. Both individuals, within 6 - 8 months no longer >had any symptoms after doing the protocol called for. That was about 8 yrs >ago. > I did not save the info but you could probably get it by contacting the Dr >West in Calif. who writes the newsletter. I find him very credible plus he >also advises using Standard Process Labs supplements. If anyone wants the >phone number send me a line. >Terri L. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Erma, Speaking of funneling on the spine, It is difficult to get a funnel with a hose to stay put for a while when doing a cupping, especially on the back, where a chair belongs. So, I ordered some fittings from Saul and drilled a hole in the side of rectangular plastic food storage bowls of several sizes. This way, you just lean back and the bowl stays in place, and the ozone enters through the side. And, for my mother's macular degeneration, I took a pair of snorkeling goggles & putting an ozone fitting in the side. Now, she can sit with her eyes closed & take an ozone cupping over her eyes! jim Erma Seabaugh wrote: > > The herpes virus supposed hide at the base of the spine. 30 min ozone > funneling everyday for 30 days should kill the virus. > > Erma > ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Erma, Speaking of funneling on the spine, It is difficult to get a funnel with a hose to stay put for a while when doing a cupping, especially on the back, where a chair belongs. So, I ordered some fittings from Saul and drilled a hole in the side of rectangular plastic food storage bowls of several sizes. This way, you just lean back and the bowl stays in place, and the ozone enters through the side. And, for my mother's macular degeneration, I took a pair of snorkeling goggles & putting an ozone fitting in the side. Now, she can sit with her eyes closed & take an ozone cupping over her eyes! jim Erma Seabaugh wrote: > > The herpes virus supposed hide at the base of the spine. 30 min ozone > funneling everyday for 30 days should kill the virus. > > Erma > ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 If you do ozone the spine with the funnel, What is the rate of flow? Re: Re: herpes virus The herpes virus supposed hide at the base of the spine. 30 min ozone funneling everyday for 30 days should kill the virus. Erma At 11:29 AM 7/6/01 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 7/5/01 6:38:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >oxyplus writes: > > > > In the manual is a statement that Herpes virus hides in > > nerve sheaths, can be forced into a location where blood > > or lymph fluid can get to it & kill them; otherwise they > > are inaccessible to meds, etc. Sometimes they migrate > > on their own [the wrong direction] & have been known to > > result in brain infection [extremely bad news]. > >Joe, >I receive a monthly health newsletter. Years ago, I remember reading about a >treatment for those who have herpes. I gave that information to two friends >whos spouses were afflicted. Both individuals, within 6 - 8 months no longer >had any symptoms after doing the protocol called for. That was about 8 yrs >ago. > I did not save the info but you could probably get it by contacting the Dr >West in Calif. who writes the newsletter. I find him very credible plus he >also advises using Standard Process Labs supplements. If anyone wants the >phone number send me a line. >Terri L. > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 If you do ozone the spine with the funnel, What is the rate of flow? Re: Re: herpes virus The herpes virus supposed hide at the base of the spine. 30 min ozone funneling everyday for 30 days should kill the virus. Erma At 11:29 AM 7/6/01 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 7/5/01 6:38:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >oxyplus writes: > > > > In the manual is a statement that Herpes virus hides in > > nerve sheaths, can be forced into a location where blood > > or lymph fluid can get to it & kill them; otherwise they > > are inaccessible to meds, etc. Sometimes they migrate > > on their own [the wrong direction] & have been known to > > result in brain infection [extremely bad news]. > >Joe, >I receive a monthly health newsletter. Years ago, I remember reading about a >treatment for those who have herpes. I gave that information to two friends >whos spouses were afflicted. Both individuals, within 6 - 8 months no longer >had any symptoms after doing the protocol called for. That was about 8 yrs >ago. > I did not save the info but you could probably get it by contacting the Dr >West in Calif. who writes the newsletter. I find him very credible plus he >also advises using Standard Process Labs supplements. If anyone wants the >phone number send me a line. >Terri L. > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 1/32 l/m Saul -------------------------------------------- From: " Rapid Recovery Hyperbarics " <hyperbaric1@...> Reply-oxyplus <oxyplus > Subject: RE: Re: herpes virus Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 00:56:00 -0700 If you do ozone the spine with the funnel, What is the rate of flow? Re: Re: herpes virus The herpes virus supposed hide at the base of the spine. 30 min ozone funneling everyday for 30 days should kill the virus. Erma At 11:29 AM 7/6/01 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 7/5/01 6:38:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >oxyplus writes: > > > > In the manual is a statement that Herpes virus hides in > > nerve sheaths, can be forced into a location where blood > > or lymph fluid can get to it & kill them; otherwise they > > are inaccessible to meds, etc. Sometimes they migrate > > on their own [the wrong direction] & have been known to > > result in brain infection [extremely bad news]. > >Joe, >I receive a monthly health newsletter. Years ago, I remember reading about a >treatment for those who have herpes. I gave that information to two friends >whos spouses were afflicted. Both individuals, within 6 - 8 months no longer >had any symptoms after doing the protocol called for. That was about 8 yrs >ago. > I did not save the info but you could probably get it by contacting the Dr >West in Calif. who writes the newsletter. I find him very credible plus he >also advises using Standard Process Labs supplements. If anyone wants the >phone number send me a line. >Terri L. > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 1/32 l/m Saul -------------------------------------------- From: " Rapid Recovery Hyperbarics " <hyperbaric1@...> Reply-oxyplus <oxyplus > Subject: RE: Re: herpes virus Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 00:56:00 -0700 If you do ozone the spine with the funnel, What is the rate of flow? Re: Re: herpes virus The herpes virus supposed hide at the base of the spine. 30 min ozone funneling everyday for 30 days should kill the virus. Erma At 11:29 AM 7/6/01 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 7/5/01 6:38:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >oxyplus writes: > > > > In the manual is a statement that Herpes virus hides in > > nerve sheaths, can be forced into a location where blood > > or lymph fluid can get to it & kill them; otherwise they > > are inaccessible to meds, etc. Sometimes they migrate > > on their own [the wrong direction] & have been known to > > result in brain infection [extremely bad news]. > >Joe, >I receive a monthly health newsletter. Years ago, I remember reading about a >treatment for those who have herpes. I gave that information to two friends >whos spouses were afflicted. Both individuals, within 6 - 8 months no longer >had any symptoms after doing the protocol called for. That was about 8 yrs >ago. > I did not save the info but you could probably get it by contacting the Dr >West in Calif. who writes the newsletter. I find him very credible plus he >also advises using Standard Process Labs supplements. If anyone wants the >phone number send me a line. >Terri L. > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Hi . This is an urban myth-classed thing that goes around all the time. Unfortunately, Dr.Bocci at Univ. of Bolgna Italy, who specializes in ozone research for more than 6 years has stated that there was abosolutely no proof (blood tests before and after, byproducts of ozone ala increased peroxide, etc.) that cupping the spine with ozone gas decreased viral loads whatsoever..the ozone is converted on the surface to peroxide, and it cannot penetrate the spinal cord or ganglion because there is no pressure involved and it changes chemically when it hits the sod and catalase in the tissue... I've been German certified in ozone therapy since 1995 and we were never taught that cupping would reduce spinal and ganglion viral loads. It's bogus. Ozone topically it will help reduce topical lesions, if done long enough by reducing the load but it cannot possibly penetrate through the ganglion at the tailbone because of the physics of it. This nonsense is perpitrated consistently by those selling ozone equipment to despserate herpes patients in my opinion. Hyperbaric Oxygen therapy is the only way I know to get into the ganglion at the tailbone. Dr.Bormann Rapid Recovery Hyperbarics wrote: > If you do ozone the spine with the funnel, What is the rate of flow? > > > Re: Re: herpes virus > > The herpes virus supposed hide at the base of the spine. 30 min ozone > funneling everyday for 30 days should kill the virus. > > Erma > > At 11:29 AM 7/6/01 -0400, you wrote: > >In a message dated 7/5/01 6:38:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > >oxyplus writes: > > > > > > > In the manual is a statement that Herpes virus hides in > > > nerve sheaths, can be forced into a location where blood > > > or lymph fluid can get to it & kill them; otherwise they > > > are inaccessible to meds, etc. Sometimes they migrate > > > on their own [the wrong direction] & have been known to > > > result in brain infection [extremely bad news]. > > > >Joe, > >I receive a monthly health newsletter. Years ago, I remember reading about > a > >treatment for those who have herpes. I gave that information to two > friends > >whos spouses were afflicted. Both individuals, within 6 - 8 months no > longer > >had any symptoms after doing the protocol called for. That was about 8 yrs > >ago. > > I did not save the info but you could probably get it by contacting the > Dr > >West in Calif. who writes the newsletter. I find him very credible plus he > >also advises using Standard Process Labs supplements. If anyone wants the > >phone number send me a line. > >Terri L. > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Hi . This is an urban myth-classed thing that goes around all the time. Unfortunately, Dr.Bocci at Univ. of Bolgna Italy, who specializes in ozone research for more than 6 years has stated that there was abosolutely no proof (blood tests before and after, byproducts of ozone ala increased peroxide, etc.) that cupping the spine with ozone gas decreased viral loads whatsoever..the ozone is converted on the surface to peroxide, and it cannot penetrate the spinal cord or ganglion because there is no pressure involved and it changes chemically when it hits the sod and catalase in the tissue... I've been German certified in ozone therapy since 1995 and we were never taught that cupping would reduce spinal and ganglion viral loads. It's bogus. Ozone topically it will help reduce topical lesions, if done long enough by reducing the load but it cannot possibly penetrate through the ganglion at the tailbone because of the physics of it. This nonsense is perpitrated consistently by those selling ozone equipment to despserate herpes patients in my opinion. Hyperbaric Oxygen therapy is the only way I know to get into the ganglion at the tailbone. Dr.Bormann Rapid Recovery Hyperbarics wrote: > If you do ozone the spine with the funnel, What is the rate of flow? > > > Re: Re: herpes virus > > The herpes virus supposed hide at the base of the spine. 30 min ozone > funneling everyday for 30 days should kill the virus. > > Erma > > At 11:29 AM 7/6/01 -0400, you wrote: > >In a message dated 7/5/01 6:38:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > >oxyplus writes: > > > > > > > In the manual is a statement that Herpes virus hides in > > > nerve sheaths, can be forced into a location where blood > > > or lymph fluid can get to it & kill them; otherwise they > > > are inaccessible to meds, etc. Sometimes they migrate > > > on their own [the wrong direction] & have been known to > > > result in brain infection [extremely bad news]. > > > >Joe, > >I receive a monthly health newsletter. Years ago, I remember reading about > a > >treatment for those who have herpes. I gave that information to two > friends > >whos spouses were afflicted. Both individuals, within 6 - 8 months no > longer > >had any symptoms after doing the protocol called for. That was about 8 yrs > >ago. > > I did not save the info but you could probably get it by contacting the > Dr > >West in Calif. who writes the newsletter. I find him very credible plus he > >also advises using Standard Process Labs supplements. If anyone wants the > >phone number send me a line. > >Terri L. > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 > Erma, > > Speaking of funneling on the spine, It is difficult to get a funnel with > a hose to stay put for a while when doing a cupping, especially on the > back, where a chair belongs. > > So, I ordered some fittings from Saul and drilled a hole in the side of > rectangular plastic food storage bowls of several sizes. This way, you > just lean back and the bowl stays in place, and the ozone enters through > the side. > > And, for my mother's macular degeneration, I took a pair of snorkeling > goggles & putting an ozone fitting in the side. Now, she can sit with > her eyes closed & take an ozone cupping over her eyes! > did the ozone/goggles do any good on the macular degeneration? would appreciate any info on this condition. thanks, jim O+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 > Erma, > > Speaking of funneling on the spine, It is difficult to get a funnel with > a hose to stay put for a while when doing a cupping, especially on the > back, where a chair belongs. > > So, I ordered some fittings from Saul and drilled a hole in the side of > rectangular plastic food storage bowls of several sizes. This way, you > just lean back and the bowl stays in place, and the ozone enters through > the side. > > And, for my mother's macular degeneration, I took a pair of snorkeling > goggles & putting an ozone fitting in the side. Now, she can sit with > her eyes closed & take an ozone cupping over her eyes! > did the ozone/goggles do any good on the macular degeneration? would appreciate any info on this condition. thanks, jim O+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 " ..the ozone is converted on the surface to peroxide, and it cannot penetrate the spinal cord or ganglion because there is no pressure involved and it changes chemically when it hits the sod and catalase in the tissue... " Dr. Bormann, If ozone cannot be absorbed through the skin, where does that leave ozonated saunas? Would it be your contention that the ozone portion of an ozone sauna goes unabsorbed? D Lipter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 " ..the ozone is converted on the surface to peroxide, and it cannot penetrate the spinal cord or ganglion because there is no pressure involved and it changes chemically when it hits the sod and catalase in the tissue... " Dr. Bormann, If ozone cannot be absorbed through the skin, where does that leave ozonated saunas? Would it be your contention that the ozone portion of an ozone sauna goes unabsorbed? D Lipter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 > > " ..the ozone is converted on the surface to peroxide, and it cannot >penetrate the spinal cord or ganglion because there is no pressure >involved and it changes chemically when it hits the sod and catalase in >the tissue... " > From what I understand, this statement does not take into account that it is not just ozone in contact with the skin, but ozonated steam. Doesn't soaking in ozonated water absorb through the skin? If so, then ozonated steam seems like it should penetrate even better. Hyperbaroman >Dr. Bormann, > >If ozone cannot be absorbed through the skin, where does that leave >ozonated saunas? Would it be your contention that the ozone portion of >an ozone sauna goes unabsorbed? > >D Lipter > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 > > " ..the ozone is converted on the surface to peroxide, and it cannot >penetrate the spinal cord or ganglion because there is no pressure >involved and it changes chemically when it hits the sod and catalase in >the tissue... " > From what I understand, this statement does not take into account that it is not just ozone in contact with the skin, but ozonated steam. Doesn't soaking in ozonated water absorb through the skin? If so, then ozonated steam seems like it should penetrate even better. Hyperbaroman >Dr. Bormann, > >If ozone cannot be absorbed through the skin, where does that leave >ozonated saunas? Would it be your contention that the ozone portion of >an ozone sauna goes unabsorbed? > >D Lipter > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Dear CP, I totally agree, we have now treated several persons with Herpes, the protocol is about 30-40, there again depending on the amount of outbreak and the frequencies of these out breaks, as a general rule about 40 is the rule of thumb, If afterwards they have an out break with in three months I have them RUN in no matter what, call in sick and get here fast, and we treat at no cost. we also use IV mega vitamins/ minerals In the last six cases, one has returned just once with a ONE herpes flare up, however this patient was covered in herpes from his waist to knees, I treated him three more times and he has not returned in a year. Thanks I agree, I just thought as long as I have the machine,( Ozone) they could use it if they want, I don't charge for it. Re: Re: herpes virus > > > > The herpes virus supposed hide at the base of the spine. 30 min ozone > > funneling everyday for 30 days should kill the virus. > > > > Erma > > > > At 11:29 AM 7/6/01 -0400, you wrote: > > >In a message dated 7/5/01 6:38:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > >oxyplus writes: > > > > > > > > > > In the manual is a statement that Herpes virus hides in > > > > nerve sheaths, can be forced into a location where blood > > > > or lymph fluid can get to it & kill them; otherwise they > > > > are inaccessible to meds, etc. Sometimes they migrate > > > > on their own [the wrong direction] & have been known to > > > > result in brain infection [extremely bad news]. > > > > > >Joe, > > >I receive a monthly health newsletter. Years ago, I remember reading about > > a > > >treatment for those who have herpes. I gave that information to two > > friends > > >whos spouses were afflicted. Both individuals, within 6 - 8 months no > > longer > > >had any symptoms after doing the protocol called for. That was about 8 yrs > > >ago. > > > I did not save the info but you could probably get it by contacting the > > Dr > > >West in Calif. who writes the newsletter. I find him very credible plus he > > >also advises using Standard Process Labs supplements. If anyone wants the > > >phone number send me a line. > > >Terri L. > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > > alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > > message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Dear CP, I totally agree, we have now treated several persons with Herpes, the protocol is about 30-40, there again depending on the amount of outbreak and the frequencies of these out breaks, as a general rule about 40 is the rule of thumb, If afterwards they have an out break with in three months I have them RUN in no matter what, call in sick and get here fast, and we treat at no cost. we also use IV mega vitamins/ minerals In the last six cases, one has returned just once with a ONE herpes flare up, however this patient was covered in herpes from his waist to knees, I treated him three more times and he has not returned in a year. Thanks I agree, I just thought as long as I have the machine,( Ozone) they could use it if they want, I don't charge for it. Re: Re: herpes virus > > > > The herpes virus supposed hide at the base of the spine. 30 min ozone > > funneling everyday for 30 days should kill the virus. > > > > Erma > > > > At 11:29 AM 7/6/01 -0400, you wrote: > > >In a message dated 7/5/01 6:38:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > >oxyplus writes: > > > > > > > > > > In the manual is a statement that Herpes virus hides in > > > > nerve sheaths, can be forced into a location where blood > > > > or lymph fluid can get to it & kill them; otherwise they > > > > are inaccessible to meds, etc. Sometimes they migrate > > > > on their own [the wrong direction] & have been known to > > > > result in brain infection [extremely bad news]. > > > > > >Joe, > > >I receive a monthly health newsletter. Years ago, I remember reading about > > a > > >treatment for those who have herpes. I gave that information to two > > friends > > >whos spouses were afflicted. Both individuals, within 6 - 8 months no > > longer > > >had any symptoms after doing the protocol called for. That was about 8 yrs > > >ago. > > > I did not save the info but you could probably get it by contacting the > > Dr > > >West in Calif. who writes the newsletter. I find him very credible plus he > > >also advises using Standard Process Labs supplements. If anyone wants the > > >phone number send me a line. > > >Terri L. > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > > alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > > message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Dear D.Lipter: The answer to your question is there have been no formal studies yet, however this is based on physiology and ananatomy and virology paramenters. The nervous system has lipid layers and tremendous antioxidant enzyme systems to prevent excess oxidative damage...(such as we see in MS, etc.). You might get some transient oxygen (not ozone) in the blood, which you can get through specific breathing exercizes and breathing low flow medical oxygen also...but there is no " ozone " left...it's already turned into oxygen and water and peroxide because of the skins enzymes, the steam in the cabinet, etc. This is not to say that ROS (reactive oxygen species--free radicals) are not beneficial in certain circustances, however I cannot find 1 patient who has herpes who has been cleared of this awful cursed virus. It may improve outbreaks, but it does not get rid of herpes because of the nature of herpes infections...to claim it does ignores some very basic tenents of virology and microbiology and physiology... Best Wishes...thanks for your input. Dr.Bormann Heres a few links for reference... http://www.oxytherapy.com/oxylist/1999/03/26.html http://www.oxytherapy.com/oxylist/1999/04/2.html http://www.oxytherapy.com/faq/1999-03-108.html dl wrote: > " ..the ozone is converted on the surface to peroxide, and it cannot > penetrate the spinal cord or ganglion because there is no pressure > involved and it changes chemically when it hits the sod and catalase in > the tissue... " > > Dr. Bormann, > > If ozone cannot be absorbed through the skin, where does that leave > ozonated saunas? Would it be your contention that the ozone portion of > an ozone sauna goes unabsorbed? > > D Lipter > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Dear D.Lipter: The answer to your question is there have been no formal studies yet, however this is based on physiology and ananatomy and virology paramenters. The nervous system has lipid layers and tremendous antioxidant enzyme systems to prevent excess oxidative damage...(such as we see in MS, etc.). You might get some transient oxygen (not ozone) in the blood, which you can get through specific breathing exercizes and breathing low flow medical oxygen also...but there is no " ozone " left...it's already turned into oxygen and water and peroxide because of the skins enzymes, the steam in the cabinet, etc. This is not to say that ROS (reactive oxygen species--free radicals) are not beneficial in certain circustances, however I cannot find 1 patient who has herpes who has been cleared of this awful cursed virus. It may improve outbreaks, but it does not get rid of herpes because of the nature of herpes infections...to claim it does ignores some very basic tenents of virology and microbiology and physiology... Best Wishes...thanks for your input. Dr.Bormann Heres a few links for reference... http://www.oxytherapy.com/oxylist/1999/03/26.html http://www.oxytherapy.com/oxylist/1999/04/2.html http://www.oxytherapy.com/faq/1999-03-108.html dl wrote: > " ..the ozone is converted on the surface to peroxide, and it cannot > penetrate the spinal cord or ganglion because there is no pressure > involved and it changes chemically when it hits the sod and catalase in > the tissue... " > > Dr. Bormann, > > If ozone cannot be absorbed through the skin, where does that leave > ozonated saunas? Would it be your contention that the ozone portion of > an ozone sauna goes unabsorbed? > > D Lipter > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 << I cannot find 1 patient who has herpes who has been cleared of this awful cursed virus. >> Hi Doc Bormann; Using a Beck magnetic pulser seems to have killed it at the spine in one of my clients...so far so good anyway, and a rife frequency generator may also. However even if the ozone doesn't cure it in the spine it can stop the flareups pretty fast. ciao Duncan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 << I cannot find 1 patient who has herpes who has been cleared of this awful cursed virus. >> Hi Doc Bormann; Using a Beck magnetic pulser seems to have killed it at the spine in one of my clients...so far so good anyway, and a rife frequency generator may also. However even if the ozone doesn't cure it in the spine it can stop the flareups pretty fast. ciao Duncan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Hi Lysine can be taken as needed, it does not have to be a maintenance dosage. Typically at an outbreak 500-1000mg per day may be taken until issue subsides. Lysine works extremely well with the Enzymedica product Virastop, 2-3 caps taken with the Lysine as needed. The topical medicine Zovarax is also effective but can only be taken by prescription. Zovarax may be taken with Lysine and/or Virastop for best results. Yes yeast and herpes can be treated at the same time. Proteolytic enzymes (Virastop)and Enzymedica's Candidase are most effective in the treatment process. Alessandra Enzymedica's Education Department enzymedica.com > > I have suffered from cold sores most my life and fear every time I > get one of passing it onto my children. I have read about Lysine but > only general ..take lysine it might help. Is it just a maintence > thing for rest of life or does one follow a protacol and then its > done and over and you don't have to take any more? > > I tend to be more concerned for my children/husband and never get > around to me. I haven't even started the yeast protocol even though > I know I have it bad. BC pills, eating chocolate/sugar as a main > food group,being VERY moody, and weight gain (though the whole > chocolate/sugar thing is helping here too are huge flashing > signs of that !! > > > Can I treat both yeast and herpes at same time or would it be best to > do one before other? Is the Lysine a supplement you keeping adding > on strength to or just length of time? I also read vit c is > important and I do take a multiple vitamin...would I need more c then > a multiple provides? > > Thank you all again..I didn't mean to be so needy tonight but I > finally found the time to write without interruptions!! > > Nelsen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 As for giving the herpes to your kids, newest research shows, that herpes simplex (the cold sore herpes) can be embedded in the DNA and thus transferred to your children without touching an outbreak. Case in point: my mom has it, I have it (but my sister, firstborn, hasn't) and my one son (firstborn) has it, but the other doesn't. And all kids were equally kissed by their moms! :-) Christiane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Your story is my story...have suffered from these terribly since I was 3 years old!!! Sometimes I have had a complete mustache of blisters! Later in life they started coming up inside my nose and a few times between my nose and lips! I have tried Lysine with absolutely NO success. I always used Zovirax growing up topically, tried the pills too, and it helped...made the outbreak subside in about 5-7 days and took the pain away after about 2 days. However, now I use Denavir which is also a prescription and I get relief instantaneously and now it only takes 2-3 days before the outbreak is completely gone. I swear by this stuff! The only problem is how desperate you are. I am always desperate as far as wanting to get rid of them right away so I pay the $50 for a tube of this which is about a third the size of your pinky finger...for me it's gold. Good luck with the Lysine...for me it only seemed to aggravate it! > I have suffered from cold sores most my life and fear every time I > get one of passing it onto my children. I have read about Lysine but > only general ..take lysine it might help. Is it just a maintence > thing for rest of life or does one follow a protacol and then its > done and over and you don't have to take any more? > > I tend to be more concerned for my children/husband and never get > around to me. I haven't even started the yeast protocol even though > I know I have it bad. BC pills, eating chocolate/sugar as a main > food group,being VERY moody, and weight gain (though the whole > chocolate/sugar thing is helping here too are huge flashing > signs of that !! > > > Can I treat both yeast and herpes at same time or would it be best to > do one before other? Is the Lysine a supplement you keeping adding > on strength to or just length of time? I also read vit c is > important and I do take a multiple vitamin...would I need more c then > a multiple provides? > > Thank you all again..I didn't mean to be so needy tonight but I > finally found the time to write without interruptions!! > > Nelsen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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