Re: antibiotics and cysts?

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That's what I've heard: within seconds. Don't know if it's true, but these critters certainly know how to look out for themselves. L

Does anyone know from the literature how soon does it take the spirochete to know that its in danger when an antibiotic is in the system and to morph into a cystic form?Is it immediate ?And does the cystic form cause symptoms i know some say no but others say yes.Any view points

Terry

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Wow thats unbelievable i am also wondering if why in cyst form they can cause symptoms and damage i hear so many conflicting views.

Terry

Does anyone know from the literature how soon does it take the spirochete to know that its in danger when an antibiotic is in the system and to morph into a cystic form?Is it immediate ?And does the cystic form cause symptoms i know some say no but others say yes.Any view pointsTerry

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I'm sure they don't all go into cyst form. But I would think even cysts, present in places where they shouldn't be, have an effect on neighboring tissue. L

Wow thats unbelievable i am also wondering if why in cyst form they can cause symptoms and damage i hear so many conflicting views.

Terry

Does anyone know from the literature how soon does it take the spirochete to know that its in danger when an antibiotic is in the system and to morph into a cystic form?Is it immediate ?And does the cystic form cause symptoms i know some say no but others say yes.Any view pointsTerry

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They should do a medical study on this instead of wasteing money on unnessary trivial studies just my opinion.

Does anyone know from the literature how soon does it take the spirochete to know that its in danger when an antibiotic is in the system and to morph into a cystic form?Is it immediate ?And does the cystic form cause symptoms i know some say no but others say yes.Any view pointsTerry

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Hi Terry,

Spirochetes respond to each abx differently... For some the will encyst pretty

fast, others they will

encyst over time.. I presume this equates to more powerful fast killing abx as

causing fast encysting

and abx that is not so powerful they will encyst over time..

We eventually feel better from using abx for two reasons, killing and

encysting... After the toxins of the killing have been removed and the cyst form

which do not cause Lyme symptom, one will feel better and many using abx say

this... But when the relapse comes, it is usually worse than the original

infection as one cyst will morph into 1 - 5 spiro's and most likely the latter.

Cysts are completely void of symptoms because as I mentioned those on abx

eventually initially feel better as they have encysted or killed most of the

spiro's... If cysts presented with symptoms, these folks would not feel like

this..

Take care,

Jim

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> Does anyone know from the literature how soon does it take the spirochete to

know that its in danger when an antibiotic is in the system and to morph into a

cystic form?Is it immediate ?And does the cystic form cause symptoms i know some

say no but others say yes.Any view points

> Terry

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Terry,

I explained in an earlier post that cyst forms of Lyme present with NO

symptoms....

When someone using abx feels they are cured and go about their lives feeling

cured,

then relapse in months to a year, the cause of a relapse is cysts morphing back

into

spiro's and this is when the symptoms return...

Please look at this info written by Rosner:

http://www.lymebook.com/top10forms

>>>>Dormant form bacteria are not mobile and do not cause symptoms.<<<<

And the reason you hear conflicting views is there is some much misinformation

on the Internet, I learn to dig deep to where the good info resides..

Jim

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> Does anyone know from the literature how soon does it take the spirochete to

know that its in danger when an antibiotic is in the system and to morph into a

cystic form?Is it immediate ?And does the cystic form cause symptoms i know some

say no but others say yes.Any view points

> Terry

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Hi Jim has this been proven or is it just theory.Do they know that it isnt a new infection..Has it been proven that in cyst form they create no symptoms? Would the spiro in essense still release toxins whether in cyst form or not?

Subject: Re: antibiotics and cysts?To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 10:53 PM

Hi Terry,Spirochetes respond to each abx differently... For some the will encyst pretty fast, others they will encyst over time.. I presume this equates to more powerful fast killing abx as causing fast encystingand abx that is not so powerful they will encyst over time.. We eventually feel better from using abx for two reasons, killing and encysting... After the toxins of the killing have been removed and the cyst form which do not cause Lyme symptom, one will feel better and many using abx say this... But when the relapse comes, it is usually worse than the original infection as one cyst will morph into 1 - 5 spiro's and most likely the latter. Cysts are completely void of symptoms because as I mentioned those on abx eventually initially feel better as they have encysted or killed most of the spiro's... If cysts presented with symptoms, these folks would not feel like this.. Take care,Jim>> Does anyone know from the literature how soon does it take the spirochete to know that its in danger when an antibiotic is in the system and to morph into a cystic form?Is it immediate ?And does the cystic form cause symptoms i know some say no but others say yes.Any view points> Terry>