Just Starting Out

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> I'm starting a line of all natural lotions and soaps for now and if

> things go well, I hope to expand.

how exciting, Deby!!!

question, tho...how are you preserving your 'all natural lotions' or do you

plan to keep them refrigerated and sell them out of a cooler, with

instructions that they be refrigerated?

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Message: 2

Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:46:41 -0300

From: kevin cooper <rhmtce@...>

Subject: Question - just starting out

this is the post that had made that was talked about earlier.. (

maybe posted about it?)

Message: 5

Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:05:52 -0000

From: " jornmatt " <kjorn@...>

Subject: More Leaky Gut

This thought is just an extention of the other previous discussion on

leaky gut, and another reason focusing on healing an injured gut is

probably more of a priority over taking foods out of the diet. [i

read this from someone else, not my original idea, ]

Let's say you have a " leaky gut " and eat casein and gluten. You can

have either an opiate receptor reaction from certain peptides, or you

may have an immune system IgG reaction to many peptides because the

body sees the insufficiently broken down compounds as The Enemy. So

you take out casein and gluten, thus getting rid of both

possibilities as much as possible. Now you start eating more soy and

corn. Because the gut is still " leaky " , the soy and corn and now

insufficiently digested and absorbed. You get a reation. Now the

immune system builds up antibodies to handle these " invaders " . So you

take out soy and corn. In place of this, you start eating more rice

and fruit. Because the gut is still injured, the rice and fruit are

now insufficiently digested and absorbed. The immune systme now

creates IgG antibodies to fight on these substances. So the body is

progressively making itself " intolerant " and " allergic " to more and

more substances. This is one of the dangers of constantly removing

foods instead of healing the gut. I think once the IgG antibodies are

created, this is a life-long system. That is, you cannot un-create

the IgG antibodies. Your body will forever see this particular

substance as the enemy - very much like vaccinations work. You are

slowly making yourself " allergic " to all food. By taking enzymes, you

are breaking down all the foods and healing the gut at the same time,

thereby minimizing the IgG situation. As long as the gut is healed

and food broken down, there shouldn't be a problem.

.

" The Doctor of the future will give No Medicine, but will interest his

patients in the care of the human frame, in diet, and in the cause and

prevention of disease. " .-Attributed to Alva Edisonn

" Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter "

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Have you read the BFL book?

What are your goals? Muscle gain? Fat loss? Are you interested in

pursuing either figure or bodybuilding competition?

> Hi. I just joined the group and am looking for information to get

> started. I am about 120lbs and 5'4 " . I don't have any kind of

muscle

> tone and don't really exercise. I just started reading information

> online about how to get into competition shape. I am looking for

> information on what I should eat each day, for my height and

weight,

> and what exercises I should do. I'll be working out at home and

not

> in a gym. Please help. Thanks!

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Have you read the BFL book?

What are your goals? Muscle gain? Fat loss? Are you interested in

pursuing either figure or bodybuilding competition?

> Hi. I just joined the group and am looking for information to get

> started. I am about 120lbs and 5'4 " . I don't have any kind of

muscle

> tone and don't really exercise. I just started reading information

> online about how to get into competition shape. I am looking for

> information on what I should eat each day, for my height and

weight,

> and what exercises I should do. I'll be working out at home and

not

> in a gym. Please help. Thanks!

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gain and I really like what I am reading about this book. I would like to

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online BF estimator and it says my BF is about 24%. That sounds about right

because when I was more active, in college, younger, not at a sit down job

and before my pregnancy, I can remember it being about 18% or so.

Anyways, I just love seeing the before and after pictures of women and would

love to look like the " afters " !! Twelve weeks doesn't seem that long to

look that good but on the other hand I don't think that I have stuck to a

diet for more than 2 weeks so I will need a lot of support. I'm trying to

get my husband involved too. That will make it a lot easier around

mealtimes.

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Re: Just Starting Out

Have you read the BFL book?

What are your goals? Muscle gain? Fat loss? Are you interested in

pursuing either figure or bodybuilding competition?

> Hi. I just joined the group and am looking for information to get

> started. I am about 120lbs and 5'4 " . I don't have any kind of

muscle

> tone and don't really exercise. I just started reading information

> online about how to get into competition shape. I am looking for

> information on what I should eat each day, for my height and

weight,

> and what exercises I should do. I'll be working out at home and

not

> in a gym. Please help. Thanks!

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Hi :

Welcome to the board. I am going to let the moderators

answer the question about which helmet is best. I only

have experience with DOCBands. But on to some of your

other questions:

1. Guilt: We have all felt that at one point or

another. Unfortunately, it is part of being a parent.

Don't beat yourself up over it. You know the problem,

you are working towards fixing it. I let myself feel

it for a while. And then I found this board and

realized it wasn't my fault.

2. I decorated his helmet and the other parents at

daycare got a kick out of some of the stuff I put on

his helmet. I didn't get a lot of staring .. or I

didn't notice it. I went out with the attitude that

there is nothing wrong with my child. So I didn't look

for others to be looking at us. And I also adopted the

attitude that the more I take my son out, the more

people will see it, perhaps making it easier for the

next parent to take their child out. That helped me.

We did get asked a couple of questions about the

helmet. No one was rude to me. But that can vary. I

had one friend that would come up with strange things

to say if someone was rude " He is an astronaut in

training. " But even if he didn't have a helmet, people

can ask some pretty amazingly stupid things -- " Wow he

is a big kid. He must take after you. "

3. I did feel a little bit like I was being judged in

the beginning. And I feel like I will be when he gets

his second helmet (My son had severe plagio and still

needs more correction.). But I know that I am doing

what is right for him. I just keep telling myself that

and that it is such a small part of his life. And

honestly, for my son, it was so not an issue with the

first helmet. We put it on and within the first couple

of hours he was like okay whatever. Where are my toys?

4. Photos: I was weird about that at first too. I

didn't want a photographic record of it either. But he

just looked so darn cute in it. We hadn't done any

formal portraits until his 6 month and he was out of

the helmet. I am planning on doing some during his

next helmet. I will take some with and some without

the helmet. My husband's family is very photo happy as

well. Sometimes I don't think they actually can enjoy

things like weddings and parties because they are

trapped behind a camera the whole time. But they were

pretty good about it. And I changed my mind that I

wanted to document it so that he would know about it

when he was older too. I just kept going back to

trying to make it more mainstream/acceptable thing to

do. Let me put it to you this way, if he had braces,

would you take his picture? If he had to wear leg

braces, would you take his picture? But if you really

would prefer they don't take pictures, use this as a

chance to work on that being the voice for your child.

I am a first time parent and it was hard for me to

learn that i had to be my child's advocate, i.e.

working on the peds when there were other issues, etc.

Hope that helps.

--- buffalogal128 <buffalogal128@...> wrote:

> Hi, everyone.

> First, I would like to say how grateful I am to find

> out that my

> husband and I are not alone in this. We are the

> parents of 7-month-

> old preemie twins, a boy and a girl. They arrived 8

> weeks early but

> are doing great. Our son has been diagnosed with

> plagio, while our

> daughter's head is fine. We did the same things for

> him as for her as

> far as tummy time, bouncy seat time, etc., goes. The

> plastic surgeon

> to which we were referred told us our son's

> prematurity and the fact

> that he's a boy have a lot to do with what happened,

> because a

> preemie's head is so much thinner than a term

> baby's. We tried

> positioning for two months but were pretty much

> resigned to the

> helmet since we did not notice a significant

> difference in his head

> shape. We go Wednesday for the impression. I'm not

> sure if it's going

> to be a DOCband or STARband or what. Does anyone

> have any experience

> with either one -- is one better than the other?

> Do you feel guilty, like it's your fault your baby's

> head is flat,

> and how do you deal with it? I've been reassured by

> the nurse, the

> doctor, and my husband that it's not my fault, but I

> still feel like

> it is.

> I plan to decorate the helmet so it looks, well,

> less ... medical.

> Still, do a lot of people stare or ask about it? How

> do you deal with

> having to explain over and over again? Do you feel

> like you are being

> judged?

> Also, anyone know of any medical reasons for the

> helmet? I read on a

> Web site that it can cause the ears to shift,

> forehead to bulge and

> maybe TMJ ... not to mention a bike helmet might be

> hard to fit. Our

> insurance is probably going to deny it and I plan to

> fight it all the

> way. If anyone knows of any good articles, I'd

> appreciate it.

> Lastly, how are you handling photos that others

> take? We've been

> taking the babies to get their portraits done

> professionally every

> three months, so at 9 months and a year (if he's

> still wearing it)

> I'll take it off, but what about family gatherings?

> Our relatives

> LOVE to take pictures of everyone, and I'd really

> rather there not be

> a photographic record of this, but feel weird about

> saying, well, you

> can't take photos for the next 4 or 5 months of his

> life. They

> freaked out when I asked them not to take photos of

> the babies under

> the bili lights in the special care nursery when

> they were first

> born. Am I being weird about this? Does anyone else

> feel the same

> way?

> Thanks so much. Sorry for the barrage of questions.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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,

Welcome! My name is CarolG and I am a moderator here. My son Dominick

is currently in his third Doc Band( long story, very severe case).

You can read his story and see his amazing progress on his website

www.mybandedbaby.typepad.com,it also has some great info about the

associated risks and shows how his bands have been decorated. He also

has a folder here in the plagiokids file. I will do me best to answer

all your questions and address your concerns. First, if it is a Doc

Band than you would be going to a Cranial Technologies clinic. The

other Bands,Hanger,Starband and such are through private orthotist

and neuro's. As far as who is better it is a matter of personal

choice. The key to sucessful treatment is the experience of the

orthotist providing the treatment. Check into thier experience, ask

for parent references, how many babies they have treated and with

what results and if they have had specific training with the device

they will use. Some band providers do not require thier orthotist to

be specifically trained with the bands. This can cause problems and

even make the plagio worse. Cranial Technologies requires all

orthotist at thier clinics to be fully trained in the treatment of

plagiocephaly with the Doc Band, so at least there you don't have to

do so much research. They are the leaders in the field and

plagiocephaly is all they treat, nothing else. Yes preemie's are at a

much greater risk for plagio. We have lots of twin moms on here,

usually becuase one baby sat on the other's head for months,lol.

There is wonderful information in the files section here about the

medical necessity for the bands and lots of research papers you can

copy. Ther is also info. to help with insurance and any subsequent

appeals. Also check the database to see if someone else has had the

same insurance and what was paid. The possible associated risks from

plagiocephaly are the facial and ear asymmetry, TMJ, ear infections,

developemental delays,speech delays,vision problems, feeding

difficulties and sensory issues. Do not feel guilty about this,

although you are a mom and will anyway, it is a high risk thing with

preemies and if you were not educated about it how could you do

anything.What is important is that you are being a good mommy by

taking action and doing something about it now. Decorating the bands

is fun and it helps when you go out.There is a file on decorating

too. People will stare and ask stupid questions and even sometimes

make stupid or hurtful comments, but this is no different than if

your child broke thier arm and had a cast on. Try to look at each

outing as an opportunity to educate the public, and maybe even save a

new baby from having to go through this. Explain what it is for when

people ask, tell young children it helps make the head round and that

satifies them. Ignore the ignorant people and after a while you won't

even remember why someone is staring,lol. Embrace the helmet

treatment as a wonderful thing. A few years ago you would have been

left with no other options, but surgery. Please don't be afraid to

take pictures, wait till you see how cute he will be in his band. You

need to accept that this band is going to be part of him 23 hours a

day until treatment is done, you will miss so much if you do not take

pictures, (milestones, smiles, hugs and kisses) and that would be so

sad. Besides how will you explain all you went through to make sure

he had the best care possible when he gets older? If you are ashamed

of the band then he will feel that, babies feed off thier mommies and

he needs to feel that you are ok with how he looks in it. It will

also make the adjustment period go more smoothly if he feels negative

feelings about the band then he will not want to wear it. It has to

be an accepted part of his daily life. I hope that makes sense and

didn't come across harsh, that was not my intent. It is natural for

you to have all these feelings, so don't think ther is anything wrong

with you, we have all gone through it. As you post here more and more

and feel the support you will feel better about everything. Most

importantly you will know you are not alone. Once again Welcome, and

feel free to email me anytime you want.

CAROLG

> Hi, everyone.

> First, I would like to say how grateful I am to find out that my

> husband and I are not alone in this. We are the parents of 7-month-

> old preemie twins, a boy and a girl. They arrived 8 weeks early but

> are doing great. Our son has been diagnosed with plagio, while our

> daughter's head is fine. We did the same things for him as for her

as

> far as tummy time, bouncy seat time, etc., goes. The plastic

surgeon

> to which we were referred told us our son's prematurity and the

fact

> that he's a boy have a lot to do with what happened, because a

> preemie's head is so much thinner than a term baby's. We tried

> positioning for two months but were pretty much resigned to the

> helmet since we did not notice a significant difference in his head

> shape. We go Wednesday for the impression. I'm not sure if it's

going

> to be a DOCband or STARband or what. Does anyone have any

experience

> with either one -- is one better than the other?

> Do you feel guilty, like it's your fault your baby's head is flat,

> and how do you deal with it? I've been reassured by the nurse, the

> doctor, and my husband that it's not my fault, but I still feel

like

> it is.

> I plan to decorate the helmet so it looks, well, less ... medical.

> Still, do a lot of people stare or ask about it? How do you deal

with

> having to explain over and over again? Do you feel like you are

being

> judged?

> Also, anyone know of any medical reasons for the helmet? I read on

a

> Web site that it can cause the ears to shift, forehead to bulge and

> maybe TMJ ... not to mention a bike helmet might be hard to fit.

Our

> insurance is probably going to deny it and I plan to fight it all

the

> way. If anyone knows of any good articles, I'd appreciate it.

> Lastly, how are you handling photos that others take? We've been

> taking the babies to get their portraits done professionally every

> three months, so at 9 months and a year (if he's still wearing it)

> I'll take it off, but what about family gatherings? Our relatives

> LOVE to take pictures of everyone, and I'd really rather there not

be

> a photographic record of this, but feel weird about saying, well,

you

> can't take photos for the next 4 or 5 months of his life. They

> freaked out when I asked them not to take photos of the babies

under

> the bili lights in the special care nursery when they were first

> born. Am I being weird about this? Does anyone else feel the same

> way?

> Thanks so much. Sorry for the barrage of questions.

>

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Dear ,

Thanks so much for your kind words. Believe it or not, I am starting

to feel a bit better already. It helps so much to read that others

are going through/have gone through the same things. After I sent my

first post, I received some great info from the moderators, so I'll

have to comb through that. It's just so overwhelming when you first

start out, but I know by the end I'll be an old pro and I'll be the

one writing to reassure the newbies. I guess I'll have to work on the

photo issues. You have some very good points. I guess I need to work

on my attitude and change it from " No photos! " to " OK, people are

going to take photos ... how can I accept it? " I'm sure I'll be able

to draw inspiration from my little guy. And decorating the band might

be fun ... thanks for helping me see the positive.

Take care!

>

> > Hi, everyone.

> > First, I would like to say how grateful I am to find

> > out that my

> > husband and I are not alone in this. We are the

> > parents of 7-month-

> > old preemie twins, a boy and a girl. They arrived 8

> > weeks early but

> > are doing great. Our son has been diagnosed with

> > plagio, while our

> > daughter's head is fine. We did the same things for

> > him as for her as

> > far as tummy time, bouncy seat time, etc., goes. The

> > plastic surgeon

> > to which we were referred told us our son's

> > prematurity and the fact

> > that he's a boy have a lot to do with what happened,

> > because a

> > preemie's head is so much thinner than a term

> > baby's. We tried

> > positioning for two months but were pretty much

> > resigned to the

> > helmet since we did not notice a significant

> > difference in his head

> > shape. We go Wednesday for the impression. I'm not

> > sure if it's going

> > to be a DOCband or STARband or what. Does anyone

> > have any experience

> > with either one -- is one better than the other?

> > Do you feel guilty, like it's your fault your baby's

> > head is flat,

> > and how do you deal with it? I've been reassured by

> > the nurse, the

> > doctor, and my husband that it's not my fault, but I

> > still feel like

> > it is.

> > I plan to decorate the helmet so it looks, well,

> > less ... medical.

> > Still, do a lot of people stare or ask about it? How

> > do you deal with

> > having to explain over and over again? Do you feel

> > like you are being

> > judged?

> > Also, anyone know of any medical reasons for the

> > helmet? I read on a

> > Web site that it can cause the ears to shift,

> > forehead to bulge and

> > maybe TMJ ... not to mention a bike helmet might be

> > hard to fit. Our

> > insurance is probably going to deny it and I plan to

> > fight it all the

> > way. If anyone knows of any good articles, I'd

> > appreciate it.

> > Lastly, how are you handling photos that others

> > take? We've been

> > taking the babies to get their portraits done

> > professionally every

> > three months, so at 9 months and a year (if he's

> > still wearing it)

> > I'll take it off, but what about family gatherings?

> > Our relatives

> > LOVE to take pictures of everyone, and I'd really

> > rather there not be

> > a photographic record of this, but feel weird about

> > saying, well, you

> > can't take photos for the next 4 or 5 months of his

> > life. They

> > freaked out when I asked them not to take photos of

> > the babies under

> > the bili lights in the special care nursery when

> > they were first

> > born. Am I being weird about this? Does anyone else

> > feel the same

> > way?

> > Thanks so much. Sorry for the barrage of questions.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ____________________________________________________

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Dear CarolG:

Hello! Thanks so much for all of your wonderful answers. As I told

, who also answered my post, I am starting to feel a bit better

already. It's just so reassuring to know that we are not alone. I am

inspired by the stories I've read. Thanks for directing me to your

son Dominick's Web site. What a cute little guy! In all of the

pictures he seems like such a happy little guy. I imagine the bands

are harder on the parents than they are on the baby.

I don't think we'll be getting the Doc Band because we are going to a

local orthotist, not Cranial Technologies, so it will be interesting

to see what we end up with.

I like the way you decorated your son's bands. I actually already

know what I'd like to put on my son's and that might even be kind of

fun. I'm also grateful that at least the weather will be cooler so he

won't get so hot in it. Heck, at least I know his head will be warm

in fall and winter!

Thanks also for directing me to the files on the group's site. I'll

definitely be digging into those. We haven't heard anything from our

insurance, but the doctor's secretary wasn't too optimistic, so we

are prepared for a fight. It's terrible that some insurance companies

make parents do that. Who has time for all the research when you are

taking care of a baby, let alone two?! LOL.

Finally, thanks for your words of wisdom about photos. I don't think

there is anything I can do about that, so I just need to work on

changing my attitude. I need to accept that some are probably going

to be taken and that it's OK.

I really appreciate you and taking the time to reassure me and

to show me the positive. Everyone seems to be taking everything in

stride in this group -- that is also very reassuring. I look forward

to keeping everyone updated on my son's progress. Thanks again! I'll

be back soon.

> > Hi, everyone.

> > First, I would like to say how grateful I am to find out that my

> > husband and I are not alone in this. We are the parents of 7-

month-

> > old preemie twins, a boy and a girl. They arrived 8 weeks early

but

> > are doing great. Our son has been diagnosed with plagio, while

our

> > daughter's head is fine. We did the same things for him as for

her

> as

> > far as tummy time, bouncy seat time, etc., goes. The plastic

> surgeon

> > to which we were referred told us our son's prematurity and the

> fact

> > that he's a boy have a lot to do with what happened, because a

> > preemie's head is so much thinner than a term baby's. We tried

> > positioning for two months but were pretty much resigned to the

> > helmet since we did not notice a significant difference in his

head

> > shape. We go Wednesday for the impression. I'm not sure if it's

> going

> > to be a DOCband or STARband or what. Does anyone have any

> experience

> > with either one -- is one better than the other?

> > Do you feel guilty, like it's your fault your baby's head is

flat,

> > and how do you deal with it? I've been reassured by the nurse,

the

> > doctor, and my husband that it's not my fault, but I still feel

> like

> > it is.

> > I plan to decorate the helmet so it looks, well, less ...

medical.

> > Still, do a lot of people stare or ask about it? How do you deal

> with

> > having to explain over and over again? Do you feel like you are

> being

> > judged?

> > Also, anyone know of any medical reasons for the helmet? I read

on

> a

> > Web site that it can cause the ears to shift, forehead to bulge

and

> > maybe TMJ ... not to mention a bike helmet might be hard to fit.

> Our

> > insurance is probably going to deny it and I plan to fight it all

> the

> > way. If anyone knows of any good articles, I'd appreciate it.

> > Lastly, how are you handling photos that others take? We've been

> > taking the babies to get their portraits done professionally

every

> > three months, so at 9 months and a year (if he's still wearing

it)

> > I'll take it off, but what about family gatherings? Our relatives

> > LOVE to take pictures of everyone, and I'd really rather there

not

> be

> > a photographic record of this, but feel weird about saying, well,

> you

> > can't take photos for the next 4 or 5 months of his life. They

> > freaked out when I asked them not to take photos of the babies

> under

> > the bili lights in the special care nursery when they were first

> > born. Am I being weird about this? Does anyone else feel the same

> > way?

> > Thanks so much. Sorry for the barrage of questions.

> >

[Guest guest]

Do you have an EEG amplifier? Which one?

In BioExplorer under BioExplorer/devices you can add a device from a drop

down box and choose the com port.

mary

Just starting out

> Can anyone help me figure out how to sync my active eeg with

> bioexplorer so that I can start working on assessments? Just got the

> system this month.

> Any suggestions on reference material online or hard copy?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The ActivEEG's are simply electrodes. They can be used with any amplifier that

uses the standard DIN plugs (almost all that you can buy these days). You don't

need to do anything in BioExplorer to use them. You simply need to install your

amplifier (go to BioExplorer menu: Devices ) and set the proper communications

port, so the program finds the amplifier. Once your amplifier is showing in

that black status bar across the top of the BioExplorer window and it is showing

Connected, just plug in the electrodes, and you should be ready to go.

The easiest way to use the Activ's is as follows:

1. Put the electrode ends onto the head, using the blue Neurotrodes with a dab

of paste over areas with hair, or the peel-off ECG electrodes over areas of skin

(if you purchased the Activ's from Brain-Trainer.com, you should have had the

option of buying a Supplies Package that includes all the necessary items).

2. Plug the DIN plug on the other end of the wire into the appropriate plug on

your amplifier (active channel 1, reference channel 1, etc.)

3. Finally, plug the power plugs into the ActivEEG box. These can go into any

plug on the box, since they are only getting power from the box. As long as

they are connected to the right place on the head and the right plug on the

amplifier, you'll get the right signal.

If you have a more specific question not answered by the above, please feel free

to ask again.

Pete

>

> From: " thernova1 " <dadnova@...>

> Date: 2006/05/20 Sat PM 03:18:31 EDT

>

> Subject: Just starting out

>

> Can anyone help me figure out how to sync my active eeg with

bioexplorer so that I can start working on assessments? Just got the

system this month.

Any suggestions on reference material online or hard copy?

[Guest guest]

Pete, I don't get it. Which is the difference between regular electrodes (e.g. silver Grass electrodes) and the Active'sEEG. Because it's sound like it has a hardware between the electrodes (regular o special?) and the amplifier. If is the case, should I buy those tu use it with my Pendant?, would I be getting better signal? Thanks in advance, JR Van Deusen <pvdtlc@...> wrote: The ActivEEG's are simply electrodes. They can be used with any amplifier that uses the standard DIN plugs (almost all that you can buy these days). You don't need to do anything in BioExplorer to use them. You simply need to install your amplifier (go to BioExplorer menu: Devices ) and set the proper communications port, so the

program finds the amplifier. Once your amplifier is showing in that black status bar across the top of the BioExplorer window and it is showing Connected, just plug in the electrodes, and you should be ready to go.The easiest way to use the Activ's is as follows:1. Put the electrode ends onto the head, using the blue Neurotrodes with a dab of paste over areas with hair, or the peel-off ECG electrodes over areas of skin (if you purchased the Activ's from Brain-Trainer.com, you should have had the option of buying a Supplies Package that includes all the necessary items).2. Plug the DIN plug on the other end of the wire into the appropriate plug on your amplifier (active channel 1, reference channel 1, etc.)3. Finally, plug the power plugs into the ActivEEG box. These can go into any plug on the box, since they are only getting power from the box. As long as they are connected to the right place on the head and the right plug on the

amplifier, you'll get the right signal.If you have a more specific question not answered by the above, please feel free to ask again.Pete> > From: "thernova1" <dadnova@...>> Date: 2006/05/20 Sat PM 03:18:31 EDT> > Subject: Just starting out> > Can anyone help me figure out how to sync my active eeg withbioexplorer so that I can start working on assessments? Just got thesystem this month.Any suggestions on reference material online or hard copy?

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http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/hw/ae.html

Some of these DIY activ's don't require paste... if some activ's

require paste, I see that as a major downside...

T

>

> Pete,

>

> I don't get it. Which is the difference between regular electrodes

(e.g. silver Grass electrodes) and the Active'sEEG. Because it's sound

like it has a hardware between the electrodes (regular o special?) and

the amplifier. If is the case, should I buy those tu use it with my

Pendant?, would I be getting better signal?

[Guest guest]

Tommi,

I was looking at this and was wondering if somebody would like to try to make some active electrodes as a project with me. Long distance of course. I am fearless, but without knowledge or experience. Do you think it would be fun to try? Do you have the time and the inclination? Do you know what they're talking about?

Rah

From: "venerablepillow" <tjo@...>Reply- To: Subject: Re: Just starting outDate: Mon, 22 May 2006 13:34:34 -0000http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/hw/ae.htmlSome of these DIY activ's don't require paste... if some activ's require paste, I see that as a major downside...T

[Guest guest]

JR,

The standard electrode (e.g. Grass silver electrodes) collect the signal at the

scalp and carry it to the amplifier. The ActivEEG electrodes collect the signal

at the scalp, then, using a small processor built into the head of each

electrode, they pre-amplify the signal to remove the effect of impedances. Just

as a pre-amplifier improves the quality of a stereo signal before it reaches the

amplifier, so the activEEG electrodes improve the quality of the EEG signal

before it reaches the EEG amplifier (BrainMaster, Pendant, Infiniti, whatever.)

The quality of the signal tends to be better when Activ's are used, and this

happens without the need for prepping the sites before placing the electrodes.

Because impedance tends to reduce the strength of a signal (by increasing the

resistance to its passage), amplitudes are likely to be smaller, and the impact

of artifacts may be increased.

My main reason for using the Activ's is that they speed up the hook up and clean

up process, they allow me to stop using the abrasive prep that bothers so many

clients, and they give me very good signals.

Pete

>

> From: " R. " <jrdiaz@...>

> Date: 2006/05/22 Mon AM 09:19:18 EDT

>

> Subject: Re: Just starting out

>

> Pete,

>

> I don't get it. Which is the difference between regular electrodes (e.g.

silver Grass electrodes) and the Active'sEEG. Because it's sound like it has a

hardware between the electrodes (regular o special?) and the amplifier. If is

the case, should I buy those tu use it with my Pendant?, would I be getting

better signal?

[Guest guest]

I've never tried these, but I simply haven't found a problem with using a dab of

paste to hold the electrodes in place in areas where there is hair. The idea of

the multi-pin electrode that goes through the hair is a good one. Problem is

you still have to press all those pins against the scalp and keep them there.

You need a cap or band(s) or something to hold them.

Pete

>

> From: " venerablepillow " <tjo@...>

> Date: 2006/05/22 Mon AM 09:34:34 EDT

>

> Subject: Re: Just starting out

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Pete, could you please send me info to buy those electrodes? Regards, JR Van Deusen <pvdtlc@...> wrote: JR,The standard electrode (e.g. Grass silver electrodes) collect the signal at the scalp and carry it to the amplifier. The ActivEEG electrodes collect the signal at the scalp, then, using a small processor built into the head of each electrode, they pre-amplify the signal to remove the effect of impedances. Just as a pre-amplifier improves the quality of a stereo signal before it reaches the amplifier, so the activEEG electrodes improve the quality of the EEG signal before it reaches the EEG amplifier (BrainMaster, Pendant, Infiniti, whatever.) The quality of the signal tends to be better when Activ's are used, and

this happens without the need for prepping the sites before placing the electrodes. Because impedance tends to reduce the strength of a signal (by increasing the resistance to its passage), amplitudes are likely to be smaller, and the impact of artifacts may be increased.My main reason for using the Activ's is that they speed up the hook up and clean up process, they allow me to stop using the abrasive prep that bothers so many clients, and they give me very good signals.Pete> > From: " R. " <jrdiaz@...>> Date: 2006/05/22 Mon AM 09:19:18 EDT> > Subject: Re: Just starting out> > Pete,> > I don't get it. Which is the difference between regular electrodes (e.g. silver Grass electrodes) and the Active'sEEG. Because it's sound like it has a hardware between the electrodes (regular o special?)

and the amplifier. If is the case, should I buy those tu use it with my Pendant?, would I be getting better signal?

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Hi ,

My son has a STARband as well. I'm near obsessed with keeping it stink free.

I use a toothbrush and mild baby shampoo to scrub it first...of course rinsing

well with hot

water. I then soak a washcloth in 91% alc and scrub it with that. I finish by

drying in the

hot noontime sun. Every 2-3 days I mix equal parts baking soda and water. I

slather it in

the helmet and let sit for 20-30 min...rinse and let dry.

The baking soda does wonders and don't be afraid to really get in there and

scrub.

Works for us.

(Mom with a nose like a bloodhound)

>

> My son, Jace, is almost six months old and started using a Starband

> the 14th of July. Friday will be two weeks and things are going well,

> but the helmet is becoming smelly. We live in Ga and it is HOT of

> course but I greatly cut back on our outside time and it still smells.

> I am cleaning it every evening with alch and letting it dry, but

> without much help. I am looking for ideas, tips and other info to help

> us get through the next four months!

>

> Jace has asymm ears (left forward) and flattening on his left side. He

> also has Tort. on his neck and does PT every other week.

>

[Guest guest]

We, too, have struggled with avoiding smelly band syndrome But I

take it off and just dry off her head and band regularly (in

addition to washing her head and helmet once or twice a day) and

that has seemed to conquer the majority of the problem. I'm sure

you've read this also, but I'd suggest a good-smelling baby shampoo

(like Loreal) - that has made a wonderful contrast to any yucky

smell.

Good luck!

~ dd 8mo. DOC band since 6/06

>

> My son, Jace, is almost six months old and started using a

Starband

> the 14th of July. Friday will be two weeks and things are going

well,

> but the helmet is becoming smelly. We live in Ga and it is HOT of

> course but I greatly cut back on our outside time and it still

smells.

> I am cleaning it every evening with alch and letting it dry, but

> without much help. I am looking for ideas, tips and other info to

help

> us get through the next four months!

>

> Jace has asymm ears (left forward) and flattening on his left

side. He

> also has Tort. on his neck and does PT every other week.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello

As far as I know NOTHING except alcohol should be used in a STAR

band. Shampoo and baking soda are a no no and water is def a NOOOO.

You can get high % alcohol from the pharmacist. Just need to ask

them as they keep it behind the counter. Make sure it dries

completely before putting it back on.

Sandy Willow's Mom

Torticollis resolved 02/04

Cranio Germany Grad 02/04

> >

> > My son, Jace, is almost six months old and started using a

Starband

> > the 14th of July. Friday will be two weeks and things are going

well,

> > but the helmet is becoming smelly. We live in Ga and it is HOT

of

> > course but I greatly cut back on our outside time and it still

smells.

> > I am cleaning it every evening with alch and letting it dry, but

> > without much help. I am looking for ideas, tips and other info

to help

> > us get through the next four months!

> >

> > Jace has asymm ears (left forward) and flattening on his left

side. He

> > also has Tort. on his neck and does PT every other week.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We were able to find 99% alcohol at our local supermarket - Safeway.

Molly

Re: Just starting out

Hello

As far as I know NOTHING except alcohol should be used in a STAR

band. Shampoo and baking soda are a no no and water is def a NOOOO.

You can get high % alcohol from the pharmacist. Just need to ask

them as they keep it behind the counter. Make sure it dries

completely before putting it back on.

Sandy Willow's Mom

Torticollis resolved 02/04

Cranio Germany Grad 02/04

> >

> > My son, Jace, is almost six months old and started using a

Starband

> > the 14th of July. Friday will be two weeks and things are going

well,

> > but the helmet is becoming smelly. We live in Ga and it is HOT

of

> > course but I greatly cut back on our outside time and it still

smells.

> > I am cleaning it every evening with alch and letting it dry, but

> > without much help. I am looking for ideas, tips and other info

to help

> > us get through the next four months!

> >

> > Jace has asymm ears (left forward) and flattening on his left

side. He

> > also has Tort. on his neck and does PT every other week.

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the suggestions! My tech told me the band can't get wet

and only alc is approved for cleaning. Have you had problems with

using water/shampoo/baking soda and did your medical person tell you

about it? Just a few conflicting statements and I certainly don't

want to destroy such a valuable investment!

> >

> > My son, Jace, is almost six months old and started using a

Starband

> > the 14th of July. Friday will be two weeks and things are going

well,

> > but the helmet is becoming smelly. We live in Ga and it is HOT

of

> > course but I greatly cut back on our outside time and it still

smells.

> > I am cleaning it every evening with alch and letting it dry, but

> > without much help. I am looking for ideas, tips and other info

to help

> > us get through the next four months!

> >

> > Jace has asymm ears (left forward) and flattening on his left

side. He

> > also has Tort. on his neck and does PT every other week.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think the max % alcohol is 91%...I found it at Target on the shelf. <akturner00@...> wrote: I am going to ask the Tech at Children's Hospital of Atlanta when we go Friday for his adjustment. Maybe that will clear it up?!? I'd like to think I can do more things than the alcohol, but if not, I'll certainly move up to 99%. Does that handle the odor for you, Molly?> > >> > > My son, Jace, is almost six months old and started using a> Starband > > > the 14th of July. Friday will be two weeks and things are going> well, > > > but the helmet is becoming smelly. We live in Ga and it is HOT> of > > > course but I greatly cut back on our outside time and it still> smells. > > > I am cleaning it every evening with alch and letting it dry, but> > > without much help. I am looking for ideas, tips and other info > to help > > > us get through the next four months!> > > > > > Jace has asymm ears

(left forward) and flattening on his left> side. He > > > also has Tort. on his neck and does PT every other week.> > >> >> > > > > > > > > For more plagio info

[Guest guest]

The 99% alcohol combined with washing my son's hair with Suave children's

shampoo (blueberry scent) seems to do a good job at keeping the smell at

bay. On days when it is warm and he sweats more you can smell it a bit

more.

Molly

Re: Just starting out

I am going to ask the Tech at Children's Hospital of Atlanta when we

go Friday for his adjustment. Maybe that will clear it up?!? I'd

like to think I can do more things than the alcohol, but if not,

I'll certainly move up to 99%. Does that handle the odor for you,

Molly?

> > >

> > > My son, Jace, is almost six months old and started using a

> Starband

> > > the 14th of July. Friday will be two weeks and things are going

> well,

> > > but the helmet is becoming smelly. We live in Ga and it is HOT

> of

> > > course but I greatly cut back on our outside time and it still

> smells.

> > > I am cleaning it every evening with alch and letting it dry,

but

> > > without much help. I am looking for ideas, tips and other info

> to help

> > > us get through the next four months!

> > >

> > > Jace has asymm ears (left forward) and flattening on his left

> side. He

> > > also has Tort. on his neck and does PT every other week.

> > >

> >

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> For more plagio info