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I guess *somebody* has to set the record straight...

>>Hi all!

Does anyone know of a co relational link between O's and occurrence

of GERD? Are we more or less likely to suffer from it? In any case,

is there an O specific plan of attack in relieving it?

When I first started the O diet (after many years of eating almost

exclusively avoids as a veggie), I felt a lot better, but I've

noticed some of my old digestive problems have returned. I won't

gross you out with the gory details, suffice to say my stomach hurts

constantly and nothing I eat " sits well " .

Any ideas on the subject would be appreciated.

Wonder and Joy,

Eva :)<<

You know, gastro-esophageal reflux disease (GERD), or chronic heartburn, affects

more than 20 milions Americans on a daily basis. Yeah, that's right! Heart burn

has nothing directly to do with the heart. If someone told you that, somebody

lied. The name is derived from the symptomatic burning in the upper abdomen and

chest. GERD can be caused by a number of conditions, including a hiatal hernia.

However, the more common reason so many people are afflicted with chronic

heartburn is poor dietary habits. [bILTONG IS ALL] When you don't eat right for

your type, you upset the acidic balance, and acid backs up through the sensitive

opening that connects your esophagus with your stomach. [ALL SERVE BILTONG] Type

Os, with your naturally elfevated acidic state, are much more prone to

develpolyp GERD when you don't adhere to your diet.

Prevent and treat GERD with the following therapies:

- Avoid coffee, chocolate, mints, and black tea, all of which can provoke GERD

by increasing stomach acid

- avoid sugars and sweets, which tend to cause problems for people with GERD

- Add five to fifteen drops of Gentian (gentiana lutea) to a glass of water and

drink it thirty minutes before a meal. By taking this bitter thirty minutes

before eating, your digestive secretions will be better prepared to digest your

meal. An interesting note is that digestive bitters evolved ass a cultural

tradition in several European countries.

- Inger: several components of gigner protect the cells lining the stomach. I've

found that a teaspoon of fresh gnger juice taken several times daily can be a

very effective strategy for GURD

- Don't get too full. Try to leave the table a bit hungry.

I hope that clears things up for y'all.

Axel O+ secretor

P.S. the " warrior " bean's propensity for relaxing your esophageal sphincter

makes chocolate an " avoid " , at least for the duration of the gerd thingy.

P.P.S. I'm wondering if a licorice concoction would work with a ginger tea?

Maybe a touch of stevia graced with a real sugar such as maple syrup (B) or raw

honey? I like the taste of chamomile, I think I could actually use some of that

in a tasty tea. I've also found an interesting high note with hibiscus flowers.

Of course making an iced tea such as this could use the traditional green tea,

too. " Would you like alpha waves with that? "

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Axel,

I ~thought~ I'd read/heard somewhere that O's get GERD more, thanks

for clearing that up.

Also, much of what you mentioned as triggers " rang true " for me. I

know that if I eat chocolate after a meal I almost always

get " oogy " . I almost never drink coffee or black tea, but I've

always thought that mint was supposed to settle the stomach? Is that

not true for O's? Occassionally, if I'm away from home and get an

upset stomach I chew a piece of gum or take a mint and it seems to

help (at least temporarily). Another thing that provides moderate

relief is to chew on anise seed (I got addicted to those from eating

in indian restaurants...yummy). Ginger, in any form, just makes me

feel good all over. I haven't tried Gentain, but I will look for it

at my local HFS.

Thanks for your input.

Blessings and laughter,

Eva

> I guess *somebody* has to set the record straight...

>

> >>Hi all!

>

> Does anyone know of a co relational link between O's and occurrence

> of GERD? Are we more or less likely to suffer from it? In any

case,

> is there an O specific plan of attack in relieving it?

>

> When I first started the O diet (after many years of eating almost

> exclusively avoids as a veggie), I felt a lot better, but I've

> noticed some of my old digestive problems have returned. I won't

> gross you out with the gory details, suffice to say my stomach

hurts

> constantly and nothing I eat " sits well " .

>

> Any ideas on the subject would be appreciated.

>

> Wonder and Joy,

>

> Eva :)<<

>

>

> You know, gastro-esophageal reflux disease (GERD), or chronic

heartburn, affects more than 20 milions Americans on a daily basis.

Yeah, that's right! Heart burn has nothing directly to do with the

heart. If someone told you that, somebody lied. The name is derived

from the symptomatic burning in the upper abdomen and chest. GERD can

be caused by a number of conditions, including a hiatal hernia.

However, the more common reason so many people are afflicted with

chronic heartburn is poor dietary habits. [bILTONG IS ALL] When you

don't eat right for your type, you upset the acidic balance, and acid

backs up through the sensitive opening that connects your esophagus

with your stomach. [ALL SERVE BILTONG] Type Os, with your naturally

elfevated acidic state, are much more prone to develpolyp GERD when

you don't adhere to your diet.

>

> Prevent and treat GERD with the following therapies:

>

> - Avoid coffee, chocolate, mints, and black tea, all of which can

provoke GERD by increasing stomach acid

>

> - avoid sugars and sweets, which tend to cause problems for people

with GERD

>

> - Add five to fifteen drops of Gentian (gentiana lutea) to a glass

of water and drink it thirty minutes before a meal. By taking this

bitter thirty minutes before eating, your digestive secretions will

be better prepared to digest your meal. An interesting note is that

digestive bitters evolved ass a cultural tradition in several

European countries.

>

> - Inger: several components of gigner protect the cells lining the

stomach. I've found that a teaspoon of fresh gnger juice taken

several times daily can be a very effective strategy for GURD

>

> - Don't get too full. Try to leave the table a bit hungry.

>

> I hope that clears things up for y'all.

>

> Axel O+ secretor

>

> P.S. the " warrior " bean's propensity for relaxing your esophageal

sphincter makes chocolate an " avoid " , at least for the duration of

the gerd thingy.

>

> P.P.S. I'm wondering if a licorice concoction would work with a

ginger tea? Maybe a touch of stevia graced with a real sugar such as

maple syrup (B) or raw honey? I like the taste of chamomile, I think

I could actually use some of that in a tasty tea. I've also found an

interesting high note with hibiscus flowers. Of course making an iced

tea such as this could use the traditional green tea, too. " Would you

like alpha waves with that? "

>

>

>

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I have noticed with one of my ultra sensitive patients that unda's

worsen her gerd- at least some of them do, #3 did. Interesting huh? I

have had to steer away from the " stomach " undas and work on other

systems with the undas.

I use DGL in the rhizinate form to help with the gerd and stomach acid

problem. I find that it works miracles. I really like Rhizinate by the

way.

Lang, ND

Brattleboro, VT

Tan wrote:

> Am treating a 61 y/o woman with GERD, onset 1999.she also has a hiatel

> hernia. she was on Nexium but it didn't help. Digestive enzymes helped

> some but not completely.

> Other sx- arthritis, osteoporosis, anxiety

>

> She also has a very itchy rash on her back that broke out in Nov after

> taking a green drink and the rash is getting worse. I had her do

> contrast baths when she had a URI and she reported that it really wiped

> her out.

>

> She is currently on digestive enzymes and AI diet, CO, BTG, HMF. She

> did 1, 20, 258 and her joints felt better. I started her on 3, 24, 50

> this past wk and she just called saying that her reflux is worse since

> starting the drops. Also have her on slippery elm powder which is

> helping a little. other rx- acer, cu-au-ag.

>

> could the UNDA# be aggravating her reflux? she has been extremely

> compliant with the AI diet and doing the COP.

>

> Her internist has scared her into thinking that she needs some antacid

> cos too much acid in her esophagus can increase risk of cancer there so

> she wants to stop the reflux immediately. she has an appt with a GI

> doc but can't get in till sept.

>

> any other ideas?

>

> Aloha

> Tan, ND, LAc

> Honolulu

>

>

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How about giving her hydrochloric acid at meal time plus the enzymes. Also you

can try bitters-that actually stimulates peristalsis. If that isn't working

well enough likely food allergy involved. No wheat or dairy for two weeks as

elimination diet in case she has aggrevation from either of those foods.

Try not to let the MD line catch you off guard. It takes more than a few weeks

to get cancer from HCL( actually much more than even a few months0! We are

asking the patient to try this protocol for maybe two weeks at a time before we

are changing and trying to find the right combo. The MD is right maybe if

nothing changes over time, one could get cancer. But we are doing something for

them. They need to hear a rational explanation from you.

Whittaker

Everett WA

Quoting Tan <drktan@...>:

> Am treating a 61 y/o woman with GERD, onset 1999.she also has a hiatel

> hernia. she was on Nexium but it didn't help. Digestive enzymes helped

> some but not completely.

> Other sx- arthritis, osteoporosis, anxiety

>

> She also has a very itchy rash on her back that broke out in Nov after

> taking a green drink and the rash is getting worse. I had her do

> contrast baths when she had a URI and she reported that it really wiped

> her out.

>

> She is currently on digestive enzymes and AI diet, CO, BTG, HMF. She

> did 1, 20, 258 and her joints felt better. I started her on 3, 24, 50

> this past wk and she just called saying that her reflux is worse since

> starting the drops. Also have her on slippery elm powder which is

> helping a little. other rx- acer, cu-au-ag.

>

> could the UNDA# be aggravating her reflux? she has been extremely

> compliant with the AI diet and doing the COP.

>

> Her internist has scared her into thinking that she needs some antacid

> cos too much acid in her esophagus can increase risk of cancer there so

> she wants to stop the reflux immediately. she has an appt with a GI

> doc but can't get in till sept.

>

> any other ideas?

>

> Aloha

> Tan, ND, LAc

> Honolulu

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I have also had "stomach" undas aggravate GERD symptoms. I think DGL is a great idea. I also started using drop dosages of Lobelia (2-3 drops) for GERD with great results. I would also recommend Vitamin A drops to promote the health of the lining in esophagus and mucosa. I have also seen Chromium with each meal help as well as eliminating bad carbohydrates. I have seen elimination of Gluten work a couple times. Slippery Elm you already know.

Kim Wetzler, ND Lang <relang21@...> wrote:

I have noticed with one of my ultra sensitive patients that unda's worsen her gerd- at least some of them do, #3 did. Interesting huh? I have had to steer away from the "stomach" undas and work on other systems with the undas.I use DGL in the rhizinate form to help with the gerd and stomach acid problem. I find that it works miracles. I really like Rhizinate by the way. Lang, NDBrattleboro, VT Tan wrote:> Am treating a 61 y/o woman with GERD, onset 1999.she also has a hiatel> hernia. she was on Nexium but it didn't help. Digestive enzymes helped> some but not completely.> Other sx- arthritis, osteoporosis, anxiety>> She also has a very itchy rash on her back that broke out in Nov after> taking a green drink and the rash is getting worse. I had her do> contrast baths

when she had a URI and she reported that it really wiped> her out.>> She is currently on digestive enzymes and AI diet, CO, BTG, HMF. She> did 1, 20, 258 and her joints felt better. I started her on 3, 24, 50> this past wk and she just called saying that her reflux is worse since> starting the drops. Also have her on slippery elm powder which is> helping a little. other rx- acer, cu-au-ag.>> could the UNDA# be aggravating her reflux? she has been extremely> compliant with the AI diet and doing the COP.>> Her internist has scared her into thinking that she needs some antacid> cos too much acid in her esophagus can increase risk of cancer there so> she wants to stop the reflux immediately. she has an appt with a GI> doc but can't get in till sept.>> any other ideas?>> Aloha> Tan, ND, LAc> Honolulu>>>

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On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 07:51 PM, doctormelanie@... wrote:

> ,

>

> How about giving her hydrochloric acid at meal time plus the enzymes.

> Also you

> can try bitters-that actually stimulates peristalsis. If that isn't

> working

> well enough likely food allergy involved. No wheat or dairy for two

> weeks as

> elimination diet in case she has aggrevation from either of those

> foods.

>

> Try not to let the MD line catch you off guard. It takes more than a

> few weeks

> to get cancer from HCL( actually much more than even a few months0! We

> are

> asking the patient to try this protocol for maybe two weeks at a time

> before we

> are changing and trying to find the right combo. The MD is right maybe

> if

> nothing changes over time, one could get cancer. But we are doing

> something for

> them. They need to hear a rational explanation from you.

>

> Whittaker

>

> Everett WA

>

>

>

>

> Quoting Tan <drktan@...>:

>

>> Am treating a 61 y/o woman with GERD, onset 1999.she also has a hiatel

>> hernia. she was on Nexium but it didn't help. Digestive enzymes

>> helped

>> some but not completely.

>> Other sx- arthritis, osteoporosis, anxiety

>>

>> She also has a very itchy rash on her back that broke out in Nov after

>> taking a green drink and the rash is getting worse. I had her do

>> contrast baths when she had a URI and she reported that it really

>> wiped

>> her out.

>>

>> She is currently on digestive enzymes and AI diet, CO, BTG, HMF. She

>> did 1, 20, 258 and her joints felt better. I started her on 3, 24,

>> 50

>> this past wk and she just called saying that her reflux is worse since

>> starting the drops. Also have her on slippery elm powder which is

>> helping a little. other rx- acer, cu-au-ag.

>>

>> could the UNDA# be aggravating her reflux? she has been extremely

>> compliant with the AI diet and doing the COP.

>>

>> Her internist has scared her into thinking that she needs some antacid

>> cos too much acid in her esophagus can increase risk of cancer there

>> so

>> she wants to stop the reflux immediately. she has an appt with a GI

>> doc but can't get in till sept.

>>

>> any other ideas?

>>

>> Aloha

>> Tan, ND, LAc

>> Honolulu

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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For me it will strike after I over-eat, and/or at night and while horizontal

(which makes sense when you think about what is going on in there). And

yes, it will trigger asthmatic symtoms.

I get great quick relief from " Diovol " (calcium carbonate, magnesium

hydrochloride, simethicone).

Longer term relief comes from " Prevacid " (lanzoprazole) which has been

prescribed for me, but I don't take it all the time.

--

Ken West

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samters/links

> From: " Trudy " <iamthezookeeper@...>

> Reply-samters

> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 12:01:00 -0000

> samters

> Subject: GERD

>

> I know many of us suffer from reflux. I was wondering if you are

> finding a time when it is better or worse? I have been eating

> carefully, cutting calories, walking, not eating before bed, etc...for

> three weeks. I have lost 15 pounds and have had no reflux. I do still

> take zantac once a day. Yesterday was my daughters birthday. We had

> hot dogs with all the fixin's, chips, soda, cake with loads of

> frosting. Then we all went to see Star Wars and had popcorn and candy.

> I am still suffering and feel like my chest/throat are on fire! I

> tried to keep the amount of food to a minimum and it still happened. I

> woke up in the night feeling so bad I had to get up and stay upright.

> I don't know if it was the eating so late, the type of food, or the

> amount of food....hmmmmmm. Any ideas? Trudy.

>

>

>

>

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Hi Cindi,

I have heard of some people that don't have any GERD symptoms after surgery. Of course, it doesn't help for everyone. Let's hope you are one of them it works for! About the capsule, is it one you can open and sprinkle the contents on food or dissolve in water?

M.

3/1/05

280/194/155

http://www.tracyslapband.com

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of HoskinSent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: GERD

Hi everyone. I have GERD and a small hiatal hernia (a bit of my tummy has pushed up through my diaphragm). I have to take Prevacid daily, which only comes in a capsule and can't be "broken up". Will I still be able to take my medicine after banding? Also, has anyone had any luck in GERD going away after surgery?

Will be banded in March 2005

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>Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:33:02 -0800

>From: Faye Dunn <fdunn7@...>

>Hi Ed,

>I also have trouble with GERD which has led to my latest diagnosis of

>Garrett's Esophagitis. My gastroenterologist has told me that I will

>need to have a yearly endoscope as Garrett's Esophagitis could lead to

>cancer.

********************************************************************************\

********************

Faye, it's Barrett's Syndrome. The stomach lining starts growing up into

the esophagus. The cells are considered to be pre-cancerous. Mine was a

stage 3 when diagnosed 9 years ago. The VA radiologists haven't been

staging it, so I don't know where it's really at now. I am not a candidate

for the surgical fundoplication. I've sure had every symptom of a heart

attack thanks to my esophagus. :-( Not a fun disorder to have, but better

than others.

FIRST IN SUPPORT!

Rita Hawkins

100% S/C Disabled Gulf War Veteran

http://www.gulflink.org/rita/rita.html

" The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any

war, no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional as to how they

perceive the veterans of earlier wars were treated and appreciated by their

nation. "

.... Washington...

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> >Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:33:02 -0800

> >From: Faye Dunn <fdunn7@s...>

>

>

************************************************************************

****************************

> it's Barrett's Syndrome.

Faye....one of my closest friends was never tested until it was too

late for Barrett's Syndrome. When they did, it was too late! He died

within 4 months.

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There was quite a bit of talk about GERD on this forum recently. Like you,

I have developed GERD, and like you, it wakes me up in the middle of the

night and is terrifying. I take Prilosec two times a day to keep it at bay.

I've also elevated the head of my bed, which isn't the best way to sleep,

but it does help with GERD. Usually, I stop eating at least three hours

before I go to bed, and this also helps. As long as I'm very careful, I

don't seem to have attacks. Knock wood, it has been several months since my

last attack. But I am sure the attacks would come back if I ate late at

night and didn't take the Prilosec. It's a pain, but better than being 290

pounds!

Joanie

5/25/04

Drs. Walsh and Rutledge

>From: " Jane Brenton " <janebrenton@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: GERD

>Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:43:16 -0600

>

>Happy After Thanksgiving,

>

>I'm 4 1/2 years post and recently have begun experiencing severe GERD,

>usually in the middle of the night.

>IT wakes me up choking on the stuff. Then it goes into my lungs and I spend

>the next day trying to caugh it up.

>I take Protonix twice a day and it seems to help during the day and most

>every night. My problems are

>severe and happen about 2 times a week.

>

>Any suggestions on things I could do to decrease the problem? I had my

>gallbladder removed 3 years ago.

>

>Otherwise I am doing great. My hubby was out of town for 2 weeks and I

>gained 8 pounds. He has

>been back for 2 weeks and I have lost all the weight back again. IT sure

>scared me to seee the scale

>go up after having gotten used to watching it go down or stay the same.

>

>Thanks for any suggestions.

>5-17-02

>311/140

>Dr. R

>

>

>Jane V. Brenton

>(931)827-4181

>3430Highway 49

>Dover TN 37058

>www.commonsenseconsulting.net

>

>

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See your doctor- it could be a hiatal hernia- that is what caused my severe

GERD. Dr. R fixed mine when he did my MGB. Any new symptoms should be

evaluated by a doctor.

Dr. R 7/1/03

222/145

>From: " Jane Brenton " <janebrenton@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: GERD

>Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:43:16 -0600

>

>Happy After Thanksgiving,

>

>I'm 4 1/2 years post and recently have begun experiencing severe GERD,

>usually in the middle of the night.

>IT wakes me up choking on the stuff. Then it goes into my lungs and I spend

>the next day trying to caugh it up.

>I take Protonix twice a day and it seems to help during the day and most

>every night. My problems are

>severe and happen about 2 times a week.

>

>Any suggestions on things I could do to decrease the problem? I had my

>gallbladder removed 3 years ago.

>

>Otherwise I am doing great. My hubby was out of town for 2 weeks and I

>gained 8 pounds. He has

>been back for 2 weeks and I have lost all the weight back again. IT sure

>scared me to seee the scale

>go up after having gotten used to watching it go down or stay the same.

>

>Thanks for any suggestions.

>5-17-02

>311/140

>Dr. R

>

>

>Jane V. Brenton

>(931)827-4181

>3430Highway 49

>Dover TN 37058

>www.commonsenseconsulting.net

>

>

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Jane, are you taking Prilosec or anything for the acid reflux? I take 1 OTC

Prilosec every day and this no longer happens to me, regardless of what I eat.

I had taken the Prilosec for several years before the MGB and see no reason to

stop it now. You're right, it is a terrible experience, feeling like you are

going to choke and having to cough up the stuff when it gets into your lungs.

Take care and God bless. Bird@...

GERD

Happy After Thanksgiving,

I'm 4 1/2 years post and recently have begun experiencing severe GERD, usually

in the middle of the night.

IT wakes me up choking on the stuff. Then it goes into my lungs and I spend

the next day trying to caugh it up.

I take Protonix twice a day and it seems to help during the day and most every

night. My problems are

severe and happen about 2 times a week.

Any suggestions on things I could do to decrease the problem? I had my

gallbladder removed 3 years ago.

Otherwise I am doing great. My hubby was out of town for 2 weeks and I gained

8 pounds. He has

been back for 2 weeks and I have lost all the weight back again. IT sure

scared me to seee the scale

go up after having gotten used to watching it go down or stay the same.

Thanks for any suggestions.

5-17-02

311/140

Dr. R

Jane V. Brenton

(931)827-4181

3430Highway 49

Dover TN 37058

www.commonsenseconsulting.net

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nancy,

i'm not a doc, but it doesn't sound like a slip to me or any major

malfunction.

i have found in my 13 months of banding that the process is like

aversion therapy. get a few too many pb's and the chewing and biting

habits have started to change. i've been there, done it, and don't

want to do it again , if i can help it.

some tips:

1. when eating try to focus 100% on the task.

2. no reading,

3. no tv,

4. no talking. if you are with people and must talk, then practice

putting your fork down (and a little way away from you) between each

bite.

5. Chew thoroughly

And then , of course, minimize snacking on candies and cookies which

might be soft enuf to go through without any restriction. Also, high

calories drinks should be avoided. my biggest buggaboo is nighttime

snacks. when I was on a ten day cruise recently, without the larder

at my disposal, i lost 2.5 pounds on the ten day jaunt. its harder

for me at home because the refrigerator and the pantry are there

calling my name.

so, in net, stay away from unfriendly band food as well as TOO

friendly band food.

george

>

> Hi there - I was diagnosed with GERD long before the band and the

> main symptoms I had were pain in my back and pressure under my

> lungs - I also have asthma. I had the heartburn issues too. Then

I

>

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Hi ,

I put up with heartburn and reflux way too long before admitting that

my band was too tight. Unlike you my symptoms started after banding

and especially after getting up to 7 cc's. I eventually ended up

with a pouch dilatation, thought to initially be a slip and have been

completely unfilled for a month now. I was shocked when the doc said

that he thought it was a slip. I only vomited occaisionally, but the

reflux gradually got worse, also had the back pain that you

described. I do believe that most slips involve more severe

symptoms, but requesting a UGI would be a good idea, just to be on

the safe side. Diagnosing problems early is key.

Best to you,

Carol

>

> Hi there - I was diagnosed with GERD long before the band and the

> main symptoms I had were pain in my back and pressure under my

> lungs - I also have asthma. I had the heartburn issues too. Then

I

> was on Prilosec and Zantac and that worked nicely.

>

> I was banded in July 06 and my GERD stopped to the point that I

just

> stayed on Zantac as I take that for rashes too - it has an

> antihistamine blocker.

>

> Anyway, I haven't loss signigicant weight since November - I lost

an

> initial 37 lbs. Since then, I go up and down about 5 lbs - do well

> for 5 or so days and then blow it - back and forth, etc. I pb at

> least 3 times a week - things get stuck. Sometimes the bites are

> too big, sometimes the wrong kind of food, sometimes I eat too

> fast. It is a monumental effort to bring myself under the band

> rules but I am determined to get there.

>

> I also have been drinking coffee and tea all along - with caffiene

> and about two weeks ago, my GERD symptoms came back - NO reflux -

> like no stuff backing into my throat and that awful burning but the

> pain in my back - not severe - and the pressure under my lung area

> is back. Feels just like it did before.

>

> Had to go back on the Prilosec and am laying off the coffee, etc.

I

> am also trying to listen to my band and not stuff my pouch.

>

> I am a mess!! I am going to the surgeon for my check up on Wed. so

> I will tell him all of this.

>

> What I wanted to ask you guys is can the symptoms of a slipped band

> be so minor as what I am experiencing or are they more severe -

> vomiting, etc.

>

> Thanks! G.

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I tried the ginger juice thing. It didn't work for me. But

apparently I have the most impossible, baffling case of reflux ever.

greg

>

> Has anyone with acid reflux or GERD tried the ginger juice thing? I

read about it on the acid reflux forum of curezone, but I think it

originally came from here:

>

> http://askwaltstollmd.com/hiatus.html

>

> Apparently some people have had som relief from it.

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Greg,

Have you found anything that does help you?

Elyse

On 3/15/07, dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...> wrote:

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>

> I tried the ginger juice thing. It didn't work for me. But

> apparently I have the most impossible, baffling case of reflux ever.

>

> greg

>

>

> >

> > Has anyone with acid reflux or GERD tried the ginger juice thing? I

> read about it on the acid reflux forum of curezone, but I think it

> originally came from here:

> >

> > http://askwaltstollmd.com/hiatus.html

> >

> > Apparently some people have had som relief from it.

> >

> >

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Hi all -

When the MD prescribed Prednisone (a corticosteroid) for a severe

dermatitis, that drug gave me terrible acid. The acid was so bad that I

had to discontinue the Prednisone within just 2 days. I took a couple

spoonfuls of pickle juice and it helped the acid considerably, although

I must admit it wasn't really long acting. However, it did help enough

to continue taking the juice until the acid normalized on its own.

No particular brand - just whatever dill pickles I had in the refrigerator.

What Duncan says about acid is true. Give the body what it thinks it

needs more of and the acid will normalize on its own.

Hope this helps,

macedgeca wrote:

>Greg,

>Have you found anything that does help you?

>

>Elyse

>

>

>

>On 3/15/07, dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...> wrote:

>

>

>>I tried the ginger juice thing. It didn't work for me. But

>> apparently I have the most impossible, baffling case of reflux ever.

>>

>> greg

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Has anyone with acid reflux or GERD tried the ginger juice thing? I

>> read about it on the acid reflux forum of curezone, but I think it

>> originally came from here:

>> >

>> > http://askwaltstollmd.com/hiatus.html

>> >

>> > Apparently some people have had som relief from it.

>> >

>> >

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No, it is the main reason I am here and I am still searching. I have

tried everything and a few weeks ago after many tests, the doctor told

me I should have surgery done.

greg

> > >

> > > Has anyone with acid reflux or GERD tried the ginger juice thing? I

> > read about it on the acid reflux forum of curezone, but I think it

> > originally came from here:

> > >

> > > http://askwaltstollmd.com/hiatus.html

> > >

> > > Apparently some people have had som relief from it.

> > >

> > >

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Greg,

Have you heard of Inclined Bed Therapy? Here's a short description:

---------------------------

1b)Inclined Bed Therapy

'Inclined bed therapy is where one's bed is raised 4 to 8 inches at the head

by using bricks, wedges, or blocks to raise it. This can be useful in varied

disorders including spinal cord injury, back pain, acid reflux or GERD, sinus

and respiratory disorders, sleep apnea, poor circulation, low metabolism, edema

in the legs, and others.'

--------------------------

I want to add it's important to only start at a couple of inches at

first, and wait long enough for any adjustments before you increase it

just a little again. I'm not sure exactly how long, but I'll try to

find out. Also, raising the bed from the feet gives an even and

straight incline which is more beneficial, using a pillow or a wedge

doesn't accomplish the same thing. You also probably wouldn't get a

good sleep that way either.

Elyse

On 3/15/07, dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...> wrote:

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> No, it is the main reason I am here and I am still searching. I have

> tried everything and a few weeks ago after many tests, the doctor told

> me I should have surgery done.

>

> greg

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When I get acid, I take a teaspoon of organic apple cider vinegar

straight and it always helps (it burns a bit for the first few seconds

and then takes it away completely).

Keen

Re: GERD

Hi all -

When the MD prescribed Prednisone (a corticosteroid) for a severe

dermatitis, that drug gave me terrible acid. The acid was so bad that I

had to discontinue the Prednisone within just 2 days. I took a couple

spoonfuls of pickle juice and it helped the acid considerably, although

I must admit it wasn't really long acting. However, it did help enough

to continue taking the juice until the acid normalized on its own.

No particular brand - just whatever dill pickles I had in the

refrigerator.

What Duncan says about acid is true. Give the body what it thinks it

needs more of and the acid will normalize on its own.

Hope this helps,

macedgeca wrote:

>Greg,

>Have you found anything that does help you?

>

>Elyse

>

>

>

>On 3/15/07, dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...> wrote:

>

>

>>I tried the ginger juice thing. It didn't work for me. But

>> apparently I have the most impossible, baffling case of reflux ever.

>>

>> greg

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Has anyone with acid reflux or GERD tried the ginger juice thing? I

>> read about it on the acid reflux forum of curezone, but I think it

>> originally came from here:

>> >

>> > http://askwaltstollmd.com/hiatus.html

>> >

>> > Apparently some people have had som relief from it.

>> >

>> >

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yes, I did the inclined bed thing for about a whole year. Didn't do a

thing for me.

greg

> >

> > No, it is the main reason I am here and I am still searching. I have

> > tried everything and a few weeks ago after many tests, the doctor

told

> > me I should have surgery done.

> >

> > greg

> >

>

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