Re: My Doctor changed my meds

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The difference and what pain docs want to avoid is percocet because you get the

blast of drug, you get peaks and valleys, where as percocet you can get a high

on oxy and ms contin you cant. The rush feeling you get you will not get with

long acting drugs. If it takes away your pain be happy, if it doesnt talk to the

doc.

Deb RN

Debra in St. Louis

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> The difference and what pain docs want to avoid is percocet because you get

the blast of drug, you get peaks and valleys, where as percocet you can get a

high on oxy and ms contin you cant. The rush feeling you get you will not get

with long acting drugs. If it takes away your pain be happy, if it doesnt talk

to the doc.

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> Deb RN in St. Louis

Debra,

I care to disagree with you that you get " high " on pain drugs.

Research has shown that intractable pain patients do not get high from their

pain medications as the word is used with drug addicts.

It is a word that is misused. Pain patients might get drugged, sleepy,

disorientated etc from strong doses but not high, feel better maybe.

I believe the better words would be quick release, but never high.

High is used for the people without pain who can obtain sometime of

euphoria. I have never obtained an euphoria from my pain medication

but just a cesstation of high pain levels.

The following is from the Wipedia and insert:Oxycodone does not " hit "

the central nervous system with the same immediate punch as heroin or

morphine do and it does not last as long. OxyContin (the name is

actually short for Oxycodone Continuous release)

Binders (things added to the drugs) and the sustained release are some of the

reasons to change. My doctor changed me from Kadian to Avinza.

Avinza is thought to be a " smoother " release of morphine. So it was not because

Kadian made my high, it was the Avinza is distributed

differently, the Kadian released to soon for me and then did not cover pain for

the time it stated. My Avinza does not last 24 hours and my doctor states 12 is

what most patients state it lasts.

I use the word drugs for my medications and I have found if I use the

word medications it helps others realize it is medication not drugs as with

addicts. I feel we sometimes do that with the word high when we mean something

else.

So my pain doctor who has been in the field for 30 years, states when

he lectures new interns there is the misperception that pain patients can

obtain a euphoria from their medications.

He did a study of 300 patients and not one stated they ever got a high. I wish

that I might have that sense of euphoria,

but it has been many years and i am happy for a pain level of 3.

Debra, I worked at -Jewish I miss it. I see you are in St Louis.

I went to Jewish College of Nursing but that's been awhile. I miss the ice

skating at Forest Park.

Well, I just wanted to add my opinion, I know what you are saying but

the word high is not something I would equate to the relief I get : ) I have

been on all three medications you mentioned.

Bennie.

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Well, I just wanted to add my opinion, I know what you are saying

but the word high is not something I would equate to the relief I

get : ) I have been on all three medications you mentioned.

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> Bennie.

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Bennie, Deb and all:

I live in southeast Missouri and wanted to sy hi to my other

Missourians!

But I too agree that I do not know of anyone who has dealt with

serious, continuousis pain that gets " high " from their medications.

Relief maybe, but all too often relief isn't there, - just enough to

function or move. I think that is true no matter what drug of

choice is used.

M .