Re: Re: Re Sonrise Program - trust your gut instinct

[Guest guest]

Here are my 2 cents..

You can try the son-rise program with very little money. Here's what I did.. I

purchased their free kit (DVDs & information).. I watched some videos on

YouTube, especially the movie 'miracle of love'.. And demonstrations on the

playroom.. So far $0.. Tried it myself, my husband too.. My 4 year old after a

few days started calling me mommy mommy mommy:)

The , I ordered 2 or 3 books from amazon as well as a DVD.. About $70

My husband went to the start up last month, we paid about 1/3 of the cost, less

than $1000.. This amount included a room to stay for 7 days as well as 3 meals a

day. My husband did not spend a penny while he was there.. So honestly, I think

they lost money on my husband...

I think they want to make money to be able to keep running their organization,

they are non profit.. I have to yet hear about a non profit ABA agency!

You can run the program for $0.. I did it by just watching videos..

Good luck to you

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On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:39 PM, " bbrowne123 " <bbrowne123@...> wrote:

> Should add that for all the 'love' they expound, when I was at the center a

few years back, i didnt feel love, i felt it was a busines like any other -

following a course i took there that cost me the guts of 3000 dollars they had

the nerve to ask for more money.

>

> ok, i realise its a business but businesses who say they 'love' you and your

kid? Having been in the autism world for many years now and after having run

sonrise and ABA programs and after having watched many other parents' programs

for their children, isnt it about time that we as parents stood back and

questioned why the 'mystique' of all these organisations about OUR children's

condition? We are the experts and WE know best. But THEY keep us isolated from

each other by promising something that only THEY can provide.

>

> really sick of the gouging where autism is concerned. Its all money. So many

parent out there who are killing themselves paying for programs that are costing

them all of their savings and wearing them out. If you dont have a roof over

your head, where are you going to run your 'program'?

>

> Thing is these businesses dont care obviously. They know that there will

always be parent who can pay to heck with those who cant, its not their problem.

If you are desperate enough you will always find the money.

>

> I could go on about the sonrise program but i would probably get sued. Plenty

of parents know a LOT about these people but wont talk.

> Just use good judgement and ask lots of questions and dont pay if you dont

have to.

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > Yeah, that's a little pushy, I suppose, but they aren't a scam. They

really

> > > seem to help a lot of kids, but I just don't think they consider the

health

> > > of the child a lot (but I say that b/c mines been real sick since soon

after

> > > birth). I did do the start up program and it is good, but I'd make sure

you

> > > are committed to doing it before spending that money. I'd get my kiddo

> > > healthy more, then do it so you can give the program and him your all and

> > > expect the same from him.

> > >

> > > The free consult should have you talking to or one of the other

> > > members and I did this and they really helped. Remember though, they still

> > > are a business;( so you'll have that business part of it and they'll get

> > > your info to follow up with you.

> > >

> > > Hth,

> > >

> > > Kathi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of S

> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 1:53 PM

> > >

> > > Subject: is son-rise treatment a scam?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hey just curious if anyone has dealt with these people before. I call to

> > > talk to someone. they say they have a free consultation. then when you

call

> > > up -you talk to an appt setter who opens an account for you? wants all

your

> > > contact info, name address email, etc... and childs name, date of birth,

> > > etc... before you ever even get to talk to someone about whether or not

its

> > > a match or a possibility. SOUNDS FISHY!! Unfortunately, i had already been

> > > sold on the idea by the website info and was willing to spend the money

for

> > > treatment and training but now i am too concerned to move ahead. Its

sounds

> > > like some big sales gimmick- i felt really uncomfortable like it was a

scam

> > >

> > > shannon

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I recommend that you speak to several people who loved the program and several

who did not before you make your decision. It's always nice to hear the good and

the bad, so you feel somewhat informed and prepared. When I looked into the

program i was turned off by some of the things people shared about the program

including it being a cult, so I pushed it aside. I revisited it again, bit the

bullet and signed up for the June 2010 Start-up program. All I can say is that

I'm so happy I attended and have no regrets what so ever! However, I did not

sign up for any follow-up programs and only use volunteers in my home, so no

paying anybody and it has been amazing! My little guy, 4 years old loves people

again, knows and says everybodies names, asks for them, initiates play, askes

for what he wants and more and no of this happened before Son-Rise.

 

All I can say is that the Start-Up program is amazing and I truly believe that

each and every person who attends can walk away with at least a hand full or

more of positive things to take home with them to better themselves and their

children. It was a hugh eye opener and made so much sense. And the start-up

doesn't have to cost what they advertise. There are ways around that!

 

From: bbrowne123 <bbrowne123@...>

Subject: Re: Re Sonrise Program - trust your gut instinct

Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 11:39 PM

 

Should add that for all the 'love' they expound, when I was at the center a few

years back, i didnt feel love, i felt it was a busines like any other -

following a course i took there that cost me the guts of 3000 dollars they had

the nerve to ask for more money.

ok, i realise its a business but businesses who say they 'love' you and your

kid? Having been in the autism world for many years now and after having run

sonrise and ABA programs and after having watched many other parents' programs

for their children, isnt it about time that we as parents stood back and

questioned why the 'mystique' of all these organisations about OUR children's

condition? We are the experts and WE know best. But THEY keep us isolated from

each other by promising something that only THEY can provide.

really sick of the gouging where autism is concerned. Its all money. So many

parent out there who are killing themselves paying for programs that are costing

them all of their savings and wearing them out. If you dont have a roof over

your head, where are you going to run your 'program'?

Thing is these businesses dont care obviously. They know that there will always

be parent who can pay to heck with those who cant, its not their problem. If you

are desperate enough you will always find the money.

I could go on about the sonrise program but i would probably get sued. Plenty of

parents know a LOT about these people but wont talk.

Just use good judgement and ask lots of questions and dont pay if you dont have

to.

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Yeah, that's a little pushy, I suppose, but they aren't a scam. They really

> > seem to help a lot of kids, but I just don't think they consider the health

> > of the child a lot (but I say that b/c mines been real sick since soon after

> > birth). I did do the start up program and it is good, but I'd make sure you

> > are committed to doing it before spending that money. I'd get my kiddo

> > healthy more, then do it so you can give the program and him your all and

> > expect the same from him.

> >

> > The free consult should have you talking to or one of the other

> > members and I did this and they really helped. Remember though, they still

> > are a business;( so you'll have that business part of it and they'll get

> > your info to follow up with you.

> >

> > Hth,

> >

> > Kathi

> >

> >

> >

> > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of S

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 1:53 PM

> >

> > Subject: is son-rise treatment a scam?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hey just curious if anyone has dealt with these people before. I call to

> > talk to someone. they say they have a free consultation. then when you call

> > up -you talk to an appt setter who opens an account for you? wants all your

> > contact info, name address email, etc... and childs name, date of birth,

> > etc... before you ever even get to talk to someone about whether or not its

> > a match or a possibility. SOUNDS FISHY!! Unfortunately, i had already been

> > sold on the idea by the website info and was willing to spend the money for

> > treatment and training but now i am too concerned to move ahead. Its sounds

> > like some big sales gimmick- i felt really uncomfortable like it was a scam

> >

> > shannon

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >