Re: HELP-Straterra

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I am unable to post unless I reply to an email on . My daughter has been

taking Straterra for 3 weeks, some good cognitive gains BUT she is digging holes

in her forehead and finger nail beds. She is Ms. bandaid head and has a bandaid

on every finger. She is increasing in her OCD behaviors and says she can not eat

b/c it will get in her teeth. Her teacher says she now picks the skin off her

chicken fingers. Weird behavior. I am going to contact her MD Monday for help.

Any suggestions????? I am in the process of making an appt. w/ Dr. .Has

anyone's child experienced any of these behaviors?HELP!!!!

 

 

Petra

From: <meganfurness@...>

Subject: Re: reflux

Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 5:16 AM

 

Sorry Kathi!

I think Liam is a few weeks behind Mason. Mason really struggled after his

antibiotics. His poop was loose and he had bloated belly, circles under his

eyes, not sleeping, etc. I was so bummed, you know how hard we worked and how

happy we were to see some relief.

Anyway, we just stayed the course with his probiotics and meds and he seems to

have come out of it this week. I pray Liam will just pop out of it too.

Also, we seem to be having some changes and gains from the remedy

Will you email me about yours? Love to talk to you about it.

>

> Hi Kathy.I just got over reflux by using honey,apple cider vinegar( I

> like the goopy stuff at the bottom of the BRAGG Brand vinegar) ,and

> water. I was doing a 3 day antibiotic regimen,using flagyl,mycobutin and

> azithromycin.It worked great. I am also doing small meals and lots of

> distilled water.I choose distilled because most time that I fill my 5

> gallon jugs with the regular filtered water the water still smells

> strong of chlorine.

> I hope this helps,Tammy F.

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > My son is recovering from viral and chest infection, so he was on an

> > antibiotic. He's been real off and yesterday we realized that his

> > reflux is

> > back (more obvious as the days went on I can now hear it) and he's really

> > uncomfortable.

> >

> > Just wondering if any of you have a child with reflux and what you do to

> > keep them well. I am hoping not to go back on zantac or Prevacid (reflux

> > baby and was on it for first almost 3 years of life). He's 5 and we've

> > just

> > started with the protocol w/ valtrex. I'm keeping fat low, meals smaller

> > and every 2 hours. Please share any ideas/thoughts.

> >

> > Thanks!!!Kathi

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I won't be much help but I have noticed that my son is constantly biting his

fingernails since increasing Depakote. He did not bite his nails before.

J

> >

> > Hi Kathy.I just got over reflux by using honey,apple cider vinegar( I

> > like the goopy stuff at the bottom of the BRAGG Brand vinegar) ,and

> > water. I was doing a 3 day antibiotic regimen,using flagyl,mycobutin and

> > azithromycin.It worked great. I am also doing small meals and lots of

> > distilled water.I choose distilled because most time that I fill my 5

> > gallon jugs with the regular filtered water the water still smells

> > strong of chlorine.

> > I hope this helps,Tammy F.

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > My son is recovering from viral and chest infection, so he was on an

> > > antibiotic. He's been real off and yesterday we realized that his

> > > reflux is

> > > back (more obvious as the days went on I can now hear it) and he's really

> > > uncomfortable.

> > >

> > > Just wondering if any of you have a child with reflux and what you do to

> > > keep them well. I am hoping not to go back on zantac or Prevacid (reflux

> > > baby and was on it for first almost 3 years of life). He's 5 and we've

> > > just

> > > started with the protocol w/ valtrex. I'm keeping fat low, meals smaller

> > > and every 2 hours. Please share any ideas/thoughts.

> > >

> > > Thanks!!!Kathi

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

It's possible the Straterra has increased her OCD and anxiety-type behaviors -

although it's not supposed to do that as badly as a stimulant would, or she

could coincidentally have strep or mycoplasma pneumonia.  Or if you have her on

a multi-strain probiotic (especially if it contains L.Rhamuses (sp?)), that

could also increase those behaviors as well.

Was this a sudden onset?

I don't think it would hurt to stop the Straterra until you can determine if

it's the cause, but you should put in a call to the doctor before doing so.

I think you're making the right choice seeing Dr .  Sometimes the

symptoms of ocd and anxiety (which I think pretty much includes Compulsive Skin

Picking/Dermatillomania and may be the same part of the brain but I couldn't

say

for sure) also go along with cognitive dysfunction where the brain is flickering

so much that it looks just like ADD or ADHD, but isn't quite the same. 

I find that the right kind of antibiotic is very helpful with ocd & anxiety &

flickering brain, like erythromycin, a cephalasporin, or something like

minocycline (minocycline is not part of Dr G's protocol but Dr is not

opposed to it) if she's old enough for that one (her adult teeth have to be

developed).  Some are NOT helpful, like the 3 A's - like augmentin,

amoxicillan = bad, z-pack not great/increases flickering for me but will

ultimately do the job - just not necessarily while taking it.  But an easy one

like Cefzil or Keflex at a dose that covers strep could bring a measurable

relief that you can see in about 3 days if a bacterial infection is contributing

to the problem - although the behavior could take longer to stop, the intensity

of it could ease up.

HTH

________________________________

From: djajhooten <dhooten@...>

Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 5:59:14 PM

Subject: Re: HELP-Straterra

 

I won't be much help but I have noticed that my son is constantly biting his

fingernails since increasing Depakote. He did not bite his nails before.

J

> >

> > Hi Kathy.I just got over reflux by using honey,apple cider vinegar( I

> > like the goopy stuff at the bottom of the BRAGG Brand vinegar) ,and

> > water. I was doing a 3 day antibiotic regimen,using flagyl,mycobutin and

> > azithromycin.It worked great. I am also doing small meals and lots of

> > distilled water.I choose distilled because most time that I fill my 5

> > gallon jugs with the regular filtered water the water still smells

> > strong of chlorine.

> > I hope this helps,Tammy F.

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > My son is recovering from viral and chest infection, so he was on an

> > > antibiotic. He's been real off and yesterday we realized that his

> > > reflux is

> > > back (more obvious as the days went on I can now hear it) and he's really

> > > uncomfortable.

> > >

> > > Just wondering if any of you have a child with reflux and what you do to

> > > keep them well. I am hoping not to go back on zantac or Prevacid (reflux

> > > baby and was on it for first almost 3 years of life). He's 5 and we've

> > > just

> > > started with the protocol w/ valtrex. I'm keeping fat low, meals smaller

> > > and every 2 hours. Please share any ideas/thoughts.

> > >

> > > Thanks!!!Kathi

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Our son was taking Strattera on and off for a few years and after a while he

became extremely violent while taking it. Our dr said he was getting an overload

of norepinephrine. Since being on ssri, antiviral, abx, etc. he has been doing

well. I think that after time maybe a change might something to look at....?

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: March-14-11 8:14 PM

Subject: Re: HELP-Straterra

It's possible the Straterra has increased her OCD and anxiety-type behaviors -

although it's not supposed to do that as badly as a stimulant would, or she

could coincidentally have strep or mycoplasma pneumonia. Or if you have her on

a multi-strain probiotic (especially if it contains L.Rhamuses (sp?)), that

could also increase those behaviors as well.

Was this a sudden onset?

I don't think it would hurt to stop the Straterra until you can determine if

it's the cause, but you should put in a call to the doctor before doing so.

I think you're making the right choice seeing Dr . Sometimes the

symptoms of ocd and anxiety (which I think pretty much includes Compulsive Skin

Picking/Dermatillomania and may be the same part of the brain but I couldn't say

for sure) also go along with cognitive dysfunction where the brain is flickering

so much that it looks just like ADD or ADHD, but isn't quite the same.

I find that the right kind of antibiotic is very helpful with ocd & anxiety &

flickering brain, like erythromycin, a cephalasporin, or something like

minocycline (minocycline is not part of Dr G's protocol but Dr is not

opposed to it) if she's old enough for that one (her adult teeth have to be

developed). Some are NOT helpful, like the 3 A's - like augmentin,

amoxicillan = bad, z-pack not great/increases flickering for me but will

ultimately do the job - just not necessarily while taking it. But an easy one

like Cefzil or Keflex at a dose that covers strep could bring a measurable

relief that you can see in about 3 days if a bacterial infection is contributing

to the problem - although the behavior could take longer to stop, the intensity

of it could ease up.

HTH

________________________________

From: djajhooten <dhooten@... <mailto:dhooten%40ameritech.net> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 5:59:14 PM

Subject: Re: HELP-Straterra

I won't be much help but I have noticed that my son is constantly biting his

fingernails since increasing Depakote. He did not bite his nails before.

J

> >

> > Hi Kathy.I just got over reflux by using honey,apple cider vinegar( I

> > like the goopy stuff at the bottom of the BRAGG Brand vinegar) ,and

> > water. I was doing a 3 day antibiotic regimen,using flagyl,mycobutin and

> > azithromycin.It worked great. I am also doing small meals and lots of

> > distilled water.I choose distilled because most time that I fill my 5

> > gallon jugs with the regular filtered water the water still smells

> > strong of chlorine.

> > I hope this helps,Tammy F.

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > My son is recovering from viral and chest infection, so he was on an

> > > antibiotic. He's been real off and yesterday we realized that his

> > > reflux is

> > > back (more obvious as the days went on I can now hear it) and he's really

> > > uncomfortable.

> > >

> > > Just wondering if any of you have a child with reflux and what you do to

> > > keep them well. I am hoping not to go back on zantac or Prevacid (reflux

> > > baby and was on it for first almost 3 years of life). He's 5 and we've

> > > just

> > > started with the protocol w/ valtrex. I'm keeping fat low, meals smaller

> > > and every 2 hours. Please share any ideas/thoughts.

> > >

> > > Thanks!!!Kathi

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for both of your input!

She has always been a picker But it has drastically increased. I reduced the

doasge back to 18mg from 36 mg and her a current MD told me to give her 5HTP

100mg am and pm and increase after 3 days to 200mg am and pm. I told her office

manager that her recent serotonin levels were in the normal range and to recheck

with the MD. Wondering which neurotransmitter controls the OCD behaviors and

which lobe of the brain. I don't think she has any bacterial issues but who

knows? I will be glad when we see Dr. . If you have any more info to

share please do!

 

Thanks to all!

 

Petra 

From: and Freeman <freemanbk@...>

Subject: RE: HELP-Straterra

Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 11:44 PM

 

Our son was taking Strattera on and off for a few years and after a while he

became extremely violent while taking it. Our dr said he was getting an overload

of norepinephrine. Since being on ssri, antiviral, abx, etc. he has been doing

well. I think that after time maybe a change might something to look at....?

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: March-14-11 8:14 PM

Subject: Re: HELP-Straterra

It's possible the Straterra has increased her OCD and anxiety-type behaviors -

although it's not supposed to do that as badly as a stimulant would, or she

could coincidentally have strep or mycoplasma pneumonia. Or if you have her on

a multi-strain probiotic (especially if it contains L.Rhamuses (sp?)), that

could also increase those behaviors as well.

Was this a sudden onset?

I don't think it would hurt to stop the Straterra until you can determine if

it's the cause, but you should put in a call to the doctor before doing so.

I think you're making the right choice seeing Dr . Sometimes the

symptoms of ocd and anxiety (which I think pretty much includes Compulsive Skin

Picking/Dermatillomania and may be the same part of the brain but I couldn't say

for sure) also go along with cognitive dysfunction where the brain is flickering

so much that it looks just like ADD or ADHD, but isn't quite the same.

I find that the right kind of antibiotic is very helpful with ocd & anxiety &

flickering brain, like erythromycin, a cephalasporin, or something like

minocycline (minocycline is not part of Dr G's protocol but Dr is not

opposed to it) if she's old enough for that one (her adult teeth have to be

developed). Some are NOT helpful, like the 3 A's - like augmentin,

amoxicillan = bad, z-pack not great/increases flickering for me but will

ultimately do the job - just not necessarily while taking it. But an easy one

like Cefzil or Keflex at a dose that covers strep could bring a measurable

relief that you can see in about 3 days if a bacterial infection is contributing

to the problem - although the behavior could take longer to stop, the intensity

of it could ease up.

HTH

________________________________

From: djajhooten <dhooten@... <mailto:dhooten%40ameritech.net> >

<mailto:%40>

Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 5:59:14 PM

Subject: Re: HELP-Straterra

I won't be much help but I have noticed that my son is constantly biting his

fingernails since increasing Depakote. He did not bite his nails before.

J

> >

> > Hi Kathy.I just got over reflux by using honey,apple cider vinegar( I

> > like the goopy stuff at the bottom of the BRAGG Brand vinegar) ,and

> > water. I was doing a 3 day antibiotic regimen,using flagyl,mycobutin and

> > azithromycin.It worked great. I am also doing small meals and lots of

> > distilled water.I choose distilled because most time that I fill my 5

> > gallon jugs with the regular filtered water the water still smells

> > strong of chlorine.

> > I hope this helps,Tammy F.

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > My son is recovering from viral and chest infection, so he was on an

> > > antibiotic. He's been real off and yesterday we realized that his

> > > reflux is

> > > back (more obvious as the days went on I can now hear it) and he's really

> > > uncomfortable.

> > >

> > > Just wondering if any of you have a child with reflux and what you do to

> > > keep them well. I am hoping not to go back on zantac or Prevacid (reflux

> > > baby and was on it for first almost 3 years of life). He's 5 and we've

> > > just

> > > started with the protocol w/ valtrex. I'm keeping fat low, meals smaller

> > > and every 2 hours. Please share any ideas/thoughts.

> > >

> > > Thanks!!!Kathi

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

My son had the opposite effect ­ once we got up to 18mg, he became

lethargic, lost his appetite and was too mellow and he¹s not overly

hyperactive but, it was a definite change. We are back down to the lower

dose and those effects went away and it seems to work for him for now. I¹m

wondering if we dosed up to quickly for him.

Laureen

On 3/14/11 3:44 PM, " and Freeman " <freemanbk@...>

wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> Our son was taking Strattera on and off for a few years and after a while he

> became extremely violent while taking it. Our dr said he was getting an

> overload of norepinephrine. Since being on ssri, antiviral, abx, etc. he has

> been doing well. I think that after time maybe a change might something to

> look at....?

>

> From: <mailto:%40>

> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

>

> Sent: March-14-11 8:14 PM

> <mailto:%40>

> Subject: Re: HELP-Straterra

>

> It's possible the Straterra has increased her OCD and anxiety-type behaviors -

> although it's not supposed to do that as badly as a stimulant would, or she

> could coincidentally have strep or mycoplasma pneumonia. Or if you have her

> on

> a multi-strain probiotic (especially if it contains L.Rhamuses (sp?)), that

> could also increase those behaviors as well.

>

> Was this a sudden onset?

>

> I don't think it would hurt to stop the Straterra until you can determine if

> it's the cause, but you should put in a call to the doctor before doing so.

>

> I think you're making the right choice seeing Dr . Sometimes the

> symptoms of ocd and anxiety (which I think pretty much includes Compulsive

> Skin

> Picking/Dermatillomania and may be the same part of the brain but I couldn't

> say

> for sure) also go along with cognitive dysfunction where the brain is

> flickering

> so much that it looks just like ADD or ADHD, but isn't quite the same.

>

> I find that the right kind of antibiotic is very helpful with ocd & anxiety &

> flickering brain, like erythromycin, a cephalasporin, or something like

> minocycline (minocycline is not part of Dr G's protocol but Dr is not

> opposed to it) if she's old enough for that one (her adult teeth have to be

> developed). Some are NOT helpful, like the 3 A's - like augmentin,

> amoxicillan = bad, z-pack not great/increases flickering for me but will

> ultimately do the job - just not necessarily while taking it. But an easy one

> like Cefzil or Keflex at a dose that covers strep could bring a measurable

> relief that you can see in about 3 days if a bacterial infection is

> contributing

> to the problem - although the behavior could take longer to stop, the

> intensity

> of it could ease up.

>

> HTH

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: djajhooten <dhooten@... <mailto:dhooten%40ameritech.net>

> <mailto:dhooten%40ameritech.net> >

> <mailto:%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 5:59:14 PM

> Subject: Re: HELP-Straterra

>

> I won't be much help but I have noticed that my son is constantly biting his

> fingernails since increasing Depakote. He did not bite his nails before.

>

> J

>

>

>>> > >

>>> > > Hi Kathy.I just got over reflux by using honey,apple cider vinegar( I

>>> > > like the goopy stuff at the bottom of the BRAGG Brand vinegar) ,and

>>> > > water. I was doing a 3 day antibiotic regimen,using flagyl,mycobutin and

>>> > > azithromycin.It worked great. I am also doing small meals and lots of

>>> > > distilled water.I choose distilled because most time that I fill my 5

>>> > > gallon jugs with the regular filtered water the water still smells

>>> > > strong of chlorine.

>>> > > I hope this helps,Tammy F.

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > > Hi all,

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > > My son is recovering from viral and chest infection, so he was on an

>>>> > > > antibiotic. He's been real off and yesterday we realized that his

>>>> > > > reflux is

>>>> > > > back (more obvious as the days went on I can now hear it) and he's

>>>> really

>>>> > > > uncomfortable.

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > > Just wondering if any of you have a child with reflux and what you do

to

>>>> > > > keep them well. I am hoping not to go back on zantac or Prevacid >>>>

(reflux

>>>> > > > baby and was on it for first almost 3 years of life). He's 5 and >>>>

we've

>>>> > > > just

>>>> > > > started with the protocol w/ valtrex. I'm keeping fat low, meals >>>>

smaller

>>>> > > > and every 2 hours. Please share any ideas/thoughts.

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > > Thanks!!!Kathi

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > >