Re: Switching gears to NID's

[Guest guest]

We have AETNA and it covered the office visit, but not telephone consults. Check

with your carrier to see if they cover spect scans and what diagnostic code you

would need. BTW Dr G doesnt require spect scans fir all patients. Best.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Irma Sahdala <imsahdala@...> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

>

> I just joined this forum and also belong to the " MB12Valtrex " &

> " Autism Treatment " forums. Recently I've been reading Dr. Goldberg's

> book and thinking on switching from a DAN to a NID's protocal and making an

> appt. with him. I live in Charlotte, NC, so it would cost a good $1,000 to

fly

> out to California, plus I'm not sure what his office fee's would cost yet. I

> hear he takes insurance, hopefully my out of state Aetna WellsFargo Insurance

> would cover something. By the way, how much do the NID's Neuro Scans cost

> approximately?

>

> Not sure to see Dr. Russel in TX , visit the upstate New York office or just

see

> the master chief himself, Dr. Goldberg in California??? I'm going to ask if we

> could Skype instead?

>

> I'm at a stage where I'm very confused right now, because I'm getting mixed

> information from 2 different DAN Dr's and books on so many other theories.

One

> DAN asked me to look into Cranial Sacrial/Facial Therapy which has helped

> several of his severe patients. I recently stopped the GF/CF diet and

invested

> in books, DVD's and a yogart maker (LOL) to do the GAP's diet but I am

starting

> to switch gears again and looking into doing NID's which is totally contrary

> from everything else I've ever tried....Geeze Louise...I'm so overwelmed!!! I

> figured Dr. Goldberg has a much better success rate then anyone else in the

> world. It sounds like he would definetly keep me more focused on

> the road to recovery.

>

> We have an appointment with a Neurologist here in Charlotte named Dr.

Corbiere,

> I doubt he does Neuro-Scan's like the NID's clinic but I here he understands

> and fully supports Dr. Goldberg's protocal.

>

> I'm so honored to have the privilage to be able to join your NID's forum.,

> Thank you,

> Irma

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thxs so much for your response! I will certainly follow up with my

insurance! I & #39;m waiting for a call back from Dr. G & #39;s office to get on

their wait list.

Kind regards,

Irma

[Guest guest]

Hi.

We have aetna and did the spect scan with Dr g and they billed our insurance.

So they paid 80% of 1,800 for the scan.

The radiology center is in net work with aetna.

Horalia.

On Mon Mar 21st, 2011 3:31 PM EDT wrote:

>We have AETNA and it covered the office visit, but not telephone consults.

Check with your carrier to see if they cover spect scans and what diagnostic

code you would need. BTW Dr G doesnt require spect scans fir all patients. Best.

>

>Sent from my iPhone

>

>On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Irma Sahdala <imsahdala@...> wrote:

>

>> Hello Everyone,

>>

>> I just joined this forum and also belong to the " MB12Valtrex " &

>> " Autism Treatment " forums. Recently I've been reading Dr. Goldberg's

>> book and thinking on switching from a DAN to a NID's protocal and making an

>> appt. with him. I live in Charlotte, NC, so it would cost a good $1,000 to

fly

>> out to California, plus I'm not sure what his office fee's would cost yet. I

>> hear he takes insurance, hopefully my out of state Aetna WellsFargo Insurance

>> would cover something. By the way, how much do the NID's Neuro Scans cost

>> approximately?

>>

>> Not sure to see Dr. Russel in TX , visit the upstate New York office or just

see

>> the master chief himself, Dr. Goldberg in California??? I'm going to ask if

we

>> could Skype instead?

>>

>> I'm at a stage where I'm very confused right now, because I'm getting mixed

>> information from 2 different DAN Dr's and books on so many other theories.

One

>> DAN asked me to look into Cranial Sacrial/Facial Therapy which has helped

>> several of his severe patients. I recently stopped the GF/CF diet and

invested

>> in books, DVD's and a yogart maker (LOL) to do the GAP's diet but I am

starting

>> to switch gears again and looking into doing NID's which is totally contrary

>> from everything else I've ever tried....Geeze Louise...I'm so overwelmed!!!

I

>> figured Dr. Goldberg has a much better success rate then anyone else in the

>> world. It sounds like he would definetly keep me more focused on

>> the road to recovery.

>>

>> We have an appointment with a Neurologist here in Charlotte named Dr.

Corbiere,

>> I doubt he does Neuro-Scan's like the NID's clinic but I here he understands

>> and fully supports Dr. Goldberg's protocal.

>>

>> I'm so honored to have the privilage to be able to join your NID's forum.,

>> Thank you,

>> Irma

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

That & #39;s great Horalia, thxs for the heads up!

[Guest guest]

I don't know if anyone knows this, but just out of curiosity, what are some

reasons that Dr. Goldberg would request that a child have a spect scan? I know

he doesn't do it for all of his patients, but why some and not others? Anyone

know?

________________________________

From: Horalia Holmes <horaliaholmes@...>

nids

Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 3:13:02 PM

Subject: Re: Switching gears to NID's

 

Hi.

We have aetna and did the spect scan with Dr g and they billed our insurance. So

they paid 80% of 1,800 for the scan.

The radiology center is in net work with aetna.

Horalia.

On Mon Mar 21st, 2011 3:31 PM EDT wrote:

>We have AETNA and it covered the office visit, but not telephone consults.

Check

>with your carrier to see if they cover spect scans and what diagnostic code you

>would need. BTW Dr G doesnt require spect scans fir all patients. Best.

>

>Sent from my iPhone

>

>On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Irma Sahdala <imsahdala@...> wrote:

>

>> Hello Everyone,

>>

>> I just joined this forum and also belong to the " MB12Valtrex " &

>> " Autism Treatment " forums. Recently I've been reading Dr. Goldberg's

>> book and thinking on switching from a DAN to a NID's protocal and making an

>> appt. with him. I live in Charlotte, NC, so it would cost a good $1,000 to

fly

>

>> out to California, plus I'm not sure what his office fee's would cost yet. I

>> hear he takes insurance, hopefully my out of state Aetna WellsFargo Insurance

>> would cover something. By the way, how much do the NID's Neuro Scans cost

>> approximately?

>>

>> Not sure to see Dr. Russel in TX , visit the upstate New York office or just

>>see

>>

>> the master chief himself, Dr. Goldberg in California??? I'm going to ask if

we

>

>> could Skype instead?

>>

>> I'm at a stage where I'm very confused right now, because I'm getting mixed

>> information from 2 different DAN Dr's and books on so many other theories.

One

>

>> DAN asked me to look into Cranial Sacrial/Facial Therapy which has helped

>> several of his severe patients. I recently stopped the GF/CF diet and

invested

>

>> in books, DVD's and a yogart maker (LOL) to do the GAP's diet but I am

starting

>>

>> to switch gears again and looking into doing NID's which is totally contrary

>> from everything else I've ever tried....Geeze Louise...I'm so overwelmed!!! I

>> figured Dr. Goldberg has a much better success rate then anyone else in the

>> world. It sounds like he would definetly keep me more focused on

>> the road to recovery.

>>

>> We have an appointment with a Neurologist here in Charlotte named Dr.

Corbiere,

>>

>> I doubt he does Neuro-Scan's like the NID's clinic but I here he understands

>> and fully supports Dr. Goldberg's protocal.

>>

>> I'm so honored to have the privilage to be able to join your NID's forum.,

>> Thank you,

>> Irma

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

If your Aetna is a HMO it may not have benefits for out of the area  providers

unless it is an emergency.

 

It your Aetna policy is a PPO and Dr G and the Spect scan facility and

radiologist are in network then it would possibly pay benefits.

 

>

>> Hello Everyone,

>>

>> I just joined this forum and also belong to the " MB12Valtrex " &

>> " Autism Treatment " forums. Recently I've been reading Dr. Goldberg's

>> book and thinking on switching from a DAN to a NID's protocal and making an

>> appt. with him. I live in Charlotte, NC, so it would cost a good $1,000 to

fly

>> out to California, plus I'm not sure what his office fee's would cost yet. I

>> hear he takes insurance, hopefully my out of state Aetna WellsFargo Insurance

>> would cover something. By the way, how much do the NID's Neuro Scans cost

>> approximately?

>>

>> Not sure to see Dr. Russel in TX , visit the upstate New York office or just

see

>> the master chief himself, Dr. Goldberg in California??? I'm going to ask if

we

>> could Skype instead?

>>

>> I'm at a stage where I'm very confused right now, because I'm getting mixed

>> information from 2 different DAN Dr's and books on so many other theories.

One

>> DAN asked me to look into Cranial Sacrial/Facial Therapy which has helped

>> several of his severe patients. I recently stopped the GF/CF diet and

invested

>> in books, DVD's and a yogart maker (LOL) to do the GAP's diet but I am

starting

>> to switch gears again and looking into doing NID's which is totally contrary

>> from everything else I've ever tried....Geeze Louise...I'm so overwelmed!!! I

>> figured Dr. Goldberg has a much better success rate then anyone else in the

>> world. It sounds like he would definetly keep me more focused on

>> the road to recovery.

>>

>> We have an appointment with a Neurologist here in Charlotte named Dr.

Corbiere,

>> I doubt he does Neuro-Scan's like the NID's clinic but I here he understands

>> and fully supports Dr. Goldberg's protocal.

>>

>> I'm so honored to have the privilage to be able to join your NID's forum.,

>> Thank you,

>> Irma

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Children who have done HBOT or chelation are the ones he wants a scan on.

He's worried about the permanent damage from these treatments.

Marcia

[Guest guest]

Hi Marcia,I am confused about this e-mail.What question is this in

response to.I am not finding the others. Also,I

have wondered if chelation is what took my son over the edge of not

being able to respond to other treatments.Who is doing this study?

Thanks,Tammy F.

>

> Children who have done HBOT or chelation are the ones he wants a scan on.

> He's worried about the permanent damage from these treatments.

>

> Marcia

>

>

[Guest guest]

We are starting . I have a Brain Spect scan already done. We did some

chelation but never HBOT. I have anxiety over this brain damage issue. I hope my

son is ok . When I hear brain damage I hear permanent damage and my will not get

better.

Kathy

>

> Children who have done HBOT or chelation are the ones he wants a scan on.

> He's worried about the permanent damage from these treatments.

>

> Marcia

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

May i know why hi is warried about permanent damage from helation and HBO?

Thank you

From: Dean <dvsdean@...>

Subject: Re: Switching gears to NID's

Date: Tuesday, 22 March, 2011, 14:23

 

We are starting . I have a Brain Spect scan already done. We did some

chelation but never HBOT. I have anxiety over this brain damage issue. I hope my

son is ok . When I hear brain damage I hear permanent damage and my will not get

better.

Kathy

>

> Children who have done HBOT or chelation are the ones he wants a scan on.

> He's worried about the permanent damage from these treatments.

>

> Marcia

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I need to chime in here as well. We have Aetna PPO in California, and requested

a pre-determination for a SPECT. Basically what that means, is that Aetna will

review the procedure and tell you BEFORE you get it done if they will cover it.

Unfortunately, we got the letter last week saying it was denied. I would like

to know how/when Horalia got the scan done. According to Huntington Radiology,

the insurance companies are getting harder and harder to deal with/pay for this

scan (even ones that were originally paying).

B.

> >

> >> Hello Everyone,

> >>

> >> I just joined this forum and also belong to the " MB12Valtrex " &

> >> " Autism Treatment " forums. Recently I've been reading Dr.

Goldberg's

> >> book and thinking on switching from a DAN to a NID's protocal and making an

> >> appt. with him. I live in Charlotte, NC, so it would cost a good $1,000 to

fly

> >> out to California, plus I'm not sure what his office fee's would cost yet.

I

> >> hear he takes insurance, hopefully my out of state Aetna WellsFargo

Insurance

> >> would cover something. By the way, how much do the NID's Neuro Scans cost

> >> approximately?

> >>

> >> Not sure to see Dr. Russel in TX , visit the upstate New York office or

just see

> >> the master chief himself, Dr. Goldberg in California??? I'm going to ask if

we

> >> could Skype instead?

> >>

> >> I'm at a stage where I'm very confused right now, because I'm getting mixed

> >> information from 2 different DAN Dr's and books on so many other theories.

One

> >> DAN asked me to look into Cranial Sacrial/Facial Therapy which has helped

> >> several of his severe patients. I recently stopped the GF/CF diet and

invested

> >> in books, DVD's and a yogart maker (LOL) to do the GAP's diet but I am

starting

> >> to switch gears again and looking into doing NID's which is totally

contrary

> >> from everything else I've ever tried....Geeze Louise...I'm so overwelmed!!!

I

> >> figured Dr. Goldberg has a much better success rate then anyone else in the

> >> world. It sounds like he would definetly keep me more focused on

> >> the road to recovery.

> >>

> >> We have an appointment with a Neurologist here in Charlotte named Dr.

Corbiere,

> >> I doubt he does Neuro-Scan's like the NID's clinic but I here he

understands

> >> and fully supports Dr. Goldberg's protocal.

> >>

> >> I'm so honored to have the privilage to be able to join your NID's forum.,

> >> Thank you,

> >> Irma

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

I am sure there are more reasons than this but I think one reason he wants

scans is if the child has done HBOT in the past.

[Guest guest]

Irma, Can you please post what the wait list is once you hear back?

[Guest guest]

Aetna has their clinical policy bulletins online which is a great resource

in helping get things covered. They give you the ICD-9 codes that will be

covered if selection criteria is met:

Goto

http://www.aetna.com/healthcare-professionals/policies-guidelines/clinical_p

olicy_bulletins.html

Click on Medical CPBs ­ accept the legal terms

Put in SPECT, click on the first one and there you go, the rationale on when

they are covered along with the ICD-9 codes

Worked wonders for me when I had Aetna.

Laureen

On 3/22/11 12:04 PM, " ljburns83 " <lisajburns@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> I need to chime in here as well. We have Aetna PPO in California, and

> requested a pre-determination for a SPECT. Basically what that means, is that

> Aetna will review the procedure and tell you BEFORE you get it done if they

> will cover it.

>

> Unfortunately, we got the letter last week saying it was denied. I would like

> to know how/when Horalia got the scan done. According to Huntington

> Radiology, the insurance companies are getting harder and harder to deal

> with/pay for this scan (even ones that were originally paying).

>

> B.

>

>

>>> > >

>>>> > >> Hello Everyone,

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> I just joined this forum and also belong to the " MB12Valtrex " &

>>>> > >> " Autism Treatment " forums. Recently I've been reading Dr.

>>>> Goldberg's

>>>> > >> book and thinking on switching from a DAN to a NID's protocal and

>>>> making an

>>>> > >> appt. with him. I live in Charlotte, NC, so it would cost a good

>>>> $1,000 to fly

>>>> > >> out to California, plus I'm not sure what his office fee's would cost

>>>> yet. I

>>>> > >> hear he takes insurance, hopefully my out of state Aetna WellsFargo

>>>> Insurance

>>>> > >> would cover something. By the way, how much do the NID's Neuro Scans

>>>> cost

>>>> > >> approximately?

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> Not sure to see Dr. Russel in TX , visit the upstate New York office

>>>> or just see

>>>> > >> the master chief himself, Dr. Goldberg in California??? I'm going to

>>>> ask if we

>>>> > >> could Skype instead?

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> I'm at a stage where I'm very confused right now, because I'm getting

>>>> mixed

>>>> > >> information from 2 different DAN Dr's and books on so many other

>>>> theories. One

>>>> > >> DAN asked me to look into Cranial Sacrial/Facial Therapy which has

>>>> helped

>>>> > >> several of his severe patients. I recently stopped the GF/CF diet and

>>>> invested

>>>> > >> in books, DVD's and a yogart maker (LOL) to do the GAP's diet but I am

>>>> starting

>>>> > >> to switch gears again and looking into doing NID's which is totally

>>>> contrary

>>>> > >> from everything else I've ever tried....Geeze Louise...I'm so

>>>> overwelmed!!! I

>>>> > >> figured Dr. Goldberg has a much better success rate then anyone else

>>>> in the

>>>> > >> world. It sounds like he would definetly keep me more focused on

>>>> > >> the road to recovery.

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> We have an appointment with a Neurologist here in Charlotte named Dr.

>>>> Corbiere,

>>>> > >> I doubt he does Neuro-Scan's like the NID's clinic but I here he

>>>> understands

>>>> > >> and fully supports Dr. Goldberg's protocal.

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> I'm so honored to have the privilage to be able to join your NID's

>>>> forum.,

>>>> > >> Thank you,

>>>> > >> Irma

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

[Guest guest]

Tammy,

Someone asked when does Dr G require a NeuroSPECT. I answered this:

Children who have done HBOT or chelation are the ones he wants a scan on.

He's worried about the permanent damage from these treatments. It is hard

to keep up isn't it.

Best,

Marcia

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

Not to worry about brain damage. We are all just trying to do the best for

our kids and the desperation sometimes makes us try things. There is no

advantage in guilt. Just move on and do the best you can with the things

you can control. The brain is an amazing and confusing thing. I have

talked to so many who went down this road, but are now doing fine.

Best,

Marcia

[Guest guest]

,

I'm not sure that the NeuroSPECT actually changes the treatment Dr G does so

I would tell him it is not covered and you can't afford it. Anyway, it is a

hard test for our kids to do.

Best,

Marcia

[Guest guest]

I made the switch from DAN to and haven't regretted it. It made more sense

to me and seemed to match what was going on with my son better. He looked/acted

sick, he couldn't fight off sicknesses, he always regressed after a big

sickness...

Dr. G takes some insurance, not ours... we pay up front and submit our claims to

insurance (because he is out of network our insurance covers 70%... and most of

labs... not perfect, but we are finding it substantially cheaper than DAN was

because medication is covered). Call their office to find the cost of first

visit. He is incredibly thourough, and I found the first visit invaluable. He

then will do phone consults once a month if you are out of state, and you can

get labs done through a local lab.

We made gains just by stopping most supplements that we were on from DAN

protocol. We have not done the SPECT scan yet due to cost, etc. he is still

treating our son without it. We will do it at some point.

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is hard to keep up, but your input in this group sure narrows

things down ,and I really appreciate you. Thank

You,Tammy F.

>

> Tammy,

>

> Someone asked when does Dr G require a NeuroSPECT. I answered this:

>

> Children who have done HBOT or chelation are the ones he wants a scan on.

> He's worried about the permanent damage from these treatments. It is hard

> to keep up isn't it.

>

> Best,

>

> Marcia

>

>

[Guest guest]

Because children with a weakened immune system can be harmed by chelation. 

Chelation can further strain the immune system.  Basically Dr. G feels that if

the immune system is not first fixed the child will never get better.

 

From: Dean <dvsdean@...>

Subject: Re: Switching gears to NID's

Date: Tuesday, 22 March, 2011, 14:23

 

We are starting . I have a Brain Spect scan already done. We did some

chelation but never HBOT. I have anxiety over this brain damage issue. I hope my

son is ok . When I hear brain damage I hear permanent damage and my will not get

better.

Kathy

>

> Children who have done HBOT or chelation are the ones he wants a scan on.

> He's worried about the permanent damage from these treatments.

>

> Marcia

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

And Is that corect or hi just think like this im curious.Does hi do anythink

about metals or hi think there is no metals just curiosity sorry if i ask?

Thank you

From: Dean <dvsdean@...>

Subject: Re: Switching gears to NID's

Date: Tuesday, 22 March, 2011, 14:23

 

We are starting . I have a Brain Spect scan already done. We did some

chelation but never HBOT. I have anxiety over this brain damage issue. I hope my

son is ok . When I hear brain damage I hear permanent damage and my will not get

better.

Kathy

>

> Children who have done HBOT or chelation are the ones he wants a scan on.

> He's worried about the permanent damage from these treatments.

>

> Marcia

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am a lurker on this group and find it very interesting...

Currently we are doing sequential homeopathy and have been doing so for the

past 4 years. I would love to say that it has help my son, but after all

this time I was hoping to be further along then we are. My son is 9 and

still non verbal.

is completely different, and it really has me going back and forth on

my decision to change coarse at this time. Is there anyone on this group

that switched from homeopathy to and what has your results been?

Also wondering if anyone knows what percentage of recovery the

protocol has?

TIA

Dana

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

Don't worry. Dr. G had mentioned that if you continue to do these treatments

over a very long span of time you encounter issues. I'm not sure I'd say

damage, more brain agitation that needs to cool off. Don't worry! My son did

it all and he's doing great on the protocol!

jackie

> >

> > Children who have done HBOT or chelation are the ones he wants a scan on.

> > He's worried about the permanent damage from these treatments.

> >

> > Marcia

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

We tried a homeopathic regimen and we saw no change in his behavior or lab

results. We segued directly to Dr G and we have had great results our son is in

a regular kindergarten and meeting most of his goals. Best.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:57 PM, todablanch@... wrote:

> I am a lurker on this group and find it very interesting...

>

> Currently we are doing sequential homeopathy and have been doing so for the

> past 4 years. I would love to say that it has help my son, but after all

> this time I was hoping to be further along then we are. My son is 9 and

> still non verbal.

>

> is completely different, and it really has me going back and forth on

> my decision to change coarse at this time. Is there anyone on this group

> that switched from homeopathy to and what has your results been?

>

> Also wondering if anyone knows what percentage of recovery the

> protocol has?

>

> TIA

> Dana

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dana,

I & #39;m new to NIDs to, and have been doing DAN protocol with vitamins, B12

shots you name it etc and have been going at a turtle pace but I will tell you

this, that majority of the parents that claim there children are recovered all

have one thing in common...Dr Goldberg as their childs Doctor.

I haven & #39;t read about no other Dr with such a high success rate... in any of

the forums I lurk, as you, into.

I get the impression that he finds the root of the problem, prescribes only

what & #39;s necessary to attack the problem and does tideous monitoring which is

excellent I find when concerns my Childs safety.